对了,这些图片在这里,你可以在这里换一个微chats图片然后我们会发行PPT和币面图片我们将用到诗墨.im,这是中国的图片,就是Google.com如果没有微訊的话,那你就可以尝试着和坐在你旁边的其他人来一起一起分享一下吧不好意思对了,后来我会说中国的英语,我的英语不太好加油加油对对对,他是高材生英文这位女士说英语,但我不懂请让我说诗墨语我们还在前一段时间,让我们来试试今天这个图片是在中国最大的社会发展中,在我发行的这些图片,就是英语,但现在已经进入中国所以我们可以看到,这里有十多个人,他们是从中国来的所以我相信,你可能会觉得很有趣的是在中国的美国社会发展中的发展,我从台湾和海外发展但是我现在在上海在华为工作,所以我其实在美国社会发展中的发展在美国社会发展中的发展中,中国美国社会发展在台湾他们可能会有不同的评论,这些东西我会分享在这些表演中,所以中国美国社会发展中的发展可以更多了解台湾美国社会发展我 also invited some of the language speakers this year to TaiwanSo to the biggest open-source conference in TaiwanI invited 10 of them from different organizations, and invited them to TaiwanSo while we are in the greater China regionSo we have now forked into two branchesAnd most of our calls are the same, but we still have differencesHopefully we can look at each other's data calls moreSo that we can better understand each otherOk, now let's kick off, I'm RichardLing ChengI mean currently I work at Huawei and the developer ecosystem managerMy job is about developing the developers or the usersI'm now promoting this model artswhich is this logo here, which is an AI development platformIt has nothing to do with my topic here todaySo this is the end of the commercialOk, about this one, Open Country, what is it?I used to work with the central institute of Taiwanwhich is just like Chinese Academy of Sciences in Chinese millionSo at that time the Taiwan government invested some moneySo that people could use the fundingDeveloping the open source community to do the incubationSo I was based in Open CountryI was doing research on open source at that timeSo downstairs you can seeThere is the open source Kaiguan Sheawhich has exhibition booths down thereSo it's a communityI started in Chinese million with some peopleSo it's like open source communityYeah, literally, that's a Chinese wordAnd also I worked with the Shanghai Linux user groupAnd I was an organizer in thatSo I have been working in open source for over 10 yearsAnd I did some presentationsWe're out of power, right?Ok, so I was comingAnd also there was this conference in USMy company sent me to speak thereAnd also the Chinese open source conferenceCoast ClubAnd conference forCoast ClubWhich is an open source conference in TaiwanAnd also Hong Kong open source conference and so onI did attend those conferencesI mean, for greater China regionOr the Mandarin speaking Chinese speaking regionI have some communication with different partsSo for those people who just arrivedAs I just said at the beginningYou can join the WeChat groupBy scanning this QR code and grab a copy of the slidesHelloIf you want to get the slidesScan this QR code and join our groupI'm also from TaiwanI started working with the open source communityAbout 5 years ago first with Kaiguan SheaThen with an internet community in TaiwanSo we want that communityUse technologies to improve the societyAnd also there were other open source communitiesFrom TaiwanSo today my topic in this presentationIs about the practice in the open source communityAbout what we have been doingAnd of course we want to learn more from Chinese mainlandNext slideOk, I have my microphoneOk, my topic is aboutGreater China region open source community developmentMost of you are already in this communityAnd downstairs we have the exhibitionAnd you can see that in China regionThe open source community has been developingBut you may not know muchAbout the Taiwan open source communityAnd for those friends from other countriesIf you want to find out more about Chinese mainlandOpen source communityI'm sorry that I will not talk about it muchBut of course you can always talk to meAfter the conference, after the presentationAnd talk to other friends hereTo find out more about Chinese mainlandOpen source communitySo here is my topicGrass root open source communityThey have to growAnd grow their roots deeperAnd this is a voluntary communityI can see a difference between Chinese mainland and TaiwanIn terms of the open source communityLet me move onYou know this mapThis is the Greater China regionIncluding Chinese mainlandTaiwan, Hong Kong and MacauI was born in TaiwanWhen I was 30I came to mainland to workAnd participated in the open source communityI had a big cultural shockMy wife is from ShanghaiShe had a big cultural shockFrom Taiwan, from me as wellSo I was quite impressedEven though geographically we are so closeJust as I saidWe had the same source codeAnd now we're floating to two branchesAnd it's been to take some timeTo merge into oneSo let's look at each other's codesOk, we are the sameIn terms of the social progressThe free and open source softwareIf you look at these words hereOpen up and reformOk, when we talk aboutOpen up and reformYou think about 1979In Chinese mainland and Deng XiaopingBut actually when I was a childTaiwan also had the open up and reformThe president, Jiang Jinguo of TaiwanOpened up the economyAnd so did some reformSo for my parents' generationIt was likeThe earlier the economyHad been pretty isolatedSo when I was youngTaiwan was richer than mainlandBecause Taiwan opened up earlier than mainlandNot because Taiwan was strongerAnythingI mean when I was a childMy father in 1980My father could earn like7000 to 8000 Chinese yuan per monthAnd for Chinese mainlanderAt that time they earn like700 or so per monthThat was a huge capTaiwan opened up and reformedA little bit earlierSo it got richerA little bit earlierAnd then became a moderatelyWell-off societyAnd then open source communityBecame good as wellAnd this second lineSecond bullet point isTaiiping Taihui is a South China songI was surprised at when IWhen I was in Chinese mainland2014 this song was still playedIt says if you fight you winSo Chinese mainlanders believe thatIf you fight you winYou succeedSo however for TaiwanThe economy has long plateauedThey reached the ceilingSo Taiwan couldn't really growThe economy much furtherSo whether you win or you loseHas been decided by your birthOr by your parentsSo I believe in the next2013年The same will happen inChinese mainlandIn ShanghaiSome people they haveQuite a few apartmentsThere were tens of millionsSo if you come to this cityAs a newcomerNo matter how hard you workYou don't winYou don't win over themAnd also next aboutThe open source lineThey started as studentsSo I mean studentsAre important forThe open source communityWhen I was youngTo really handleVery stressful tasksFor my studyAnd for my jobAnd that wasWhen I was youngIn TaiwanBut not in ChineseMillionThere is even more stressBecause there are so manyPeople in ChinaNow people haveParents have to goThrough interviewsTo send their childrenTo kindergartenAnd also the kindergartenDo background checksAbout how long the parentsThe family have beenLiving here and so onI mean they screenThey select the childrenIn kindergartenThere has been competitionStarting at the kindergarten levelIn TaiwanSuch competitionAnd differentiationWhen it starts in high schoolSo here in ChinaPeople are trained this wayThey have to study so hardWork so hardHowever for open communityOpen source communityIt requires a lot of interestAnd also the university entranceIt's not a big challenge in TaiwanAnd also some peopleEven if they don't go to universityThey still succeedMy friend started this communityHe only graduated from junior middle schoolAnd started this communityAnd nowHe is a lecturerIn China UniversityIn TaiwanThat people in open sourceHe worked for so longAnd he loved educationAnd alsoTaiwan has the policySo that even peopleWith out very high diplomaThey can still go toThey can still join the universityAs a lecturerIn Chinese mainlandYou have to really studyAnd get thatAnd nextIt's about division of workIn Chinese mainlandIt's very top-downThat is to sayEverybody wants to look upwardAnd climb up the ladderBut in TaiwanIt's differentLike the grassroots levelCan also helpChange the societyAnd the last oneIt's a mass loss hierarchy of needsTheorySo in TaiwanPeople are getting closeTo pursuing their egoBut in Chinese mainlandPeople are stillThinking about making money so muchBecause their jobTheir life is so stressfulSo I thinkI took up so much timeRight?Already 10 minutesOkay, let me move onYou need to think about your identityI have toOkay, sorry to the interpreterSo I have to get fasterSo I believe that communities are connectedSo no matter where you workYou have different identitiesYou might be working in education sectorAnd also you might be involvedWith the government or the companiesSo sometimes you have double identitiesAnd the community can connect peopleLet me tell you a storySo what makes it possibleFor this oneThis is Niao GeAnd he lives in TaiwanAnd he started his websiteAnd he has been playing with LinuxAnd takes many notesAnd then he build a website for his notesAnd after he has been doing thatHe has a lot of interactions from peopleAnd then he turned it into a bookSo sometimesPeople can read his things onlineBut the publishers insistedTo publish his bookAnd eventually he was publishedAnd he is a contributorIn the open source communitySo he did not make a lot of moneyWith this bookBut he has contributed a lotIn the community with this actionSo in TaiwanActually we have many hardware companiesAnd for GPL violationAnd people are concerned with itAnd in TaiwanThere is one company that has been suedIn GPL violationAnd there is open source fundAnd which is called OSSFAnd this has been led by the governmentAnd in mainland there is COPUSo in TaiwanWe have also got criticism for OSSFSo we didn't see that kind of criticismIn other placesSo in scientific researchWe need to have an open source releaseIn 2013It does not have a deep hubSo for OSSFDid the open fundAnd then this has worked withMany scientific programsSo Taiwan Jordan UniversityHas started courses in FOSSAnd CSAnd alsoAs we mentionedWe have the Open Club AssociationWhich is actually a student associationIn TaiwanAnd in the middle schoolThere is the EZ GoWhich is the software centerAnd in the civil societyWe have SLADSThat is the software liberty associationIn TaiwanAnd also we haveOpen Culture FoundationAnd WekiSo as forThis kind of civil organizationsActuallyTaiwan has a lot of sponsor for thatSo let me show you something hereThis is the default community in TaiwanSo as you can seeThis isThis are the communities likeOS developmentAnd DevOps etcSo if you click hereThere are thousandsThere are hundreds of communitiesSo Taiwan has a populationOf only about 3 millionBut for each communityWe have about 10 peopleSo this is a photoThat I have takenIn the Linux user groupSo first there is a main listWellMaybe you think that the main listIs easyBut for Chinese open sourceMain list is not effectiveBecause for mainland peopleThey do not use the main listSo Shanghai is no exceptionSo for mainland ChinaThey use WeChat groupsOr Telegram groupsSo if they use TelegramThere are more entry barriersSo it's not that easyFor you to get involved in itAnd alsoThere are other kind of online sourcesFor offlineWhy did I highlight itWell,actuallyFor hacking ThursdayActually this is an event in TaiwanSo this was startedBy a guy from TaiwanAnd then he organizedIn Shanghai at Junan TempleAnd this is an eventWhich happens every ThursdayMoreover there is a monthly meetingSo the photo you have seen on the rightIs the hacking Thursday in ShanghaiSo welcome to join usAnd I occasionally join itBecause I have been so busy in HuaweiSo for CosepActually I've been involved with itIn Taiwan for many yearsSo for many of you it's newBut you know that in TaiwanThere are hundreds of communitiesSo some has 10 or 20 or 50 peopleBut with this CosepapThen this is an annual meetingOf the different communitiesIn open sourceThis is the conference for open sourceCoders,users and promotersSo the contributors include codersUsers and promotersSo we have been talking about codersIn mainland ChinaBut sometimes people forget usersBut it gets useless if you do not have usersOr promoters or fansSo that's why it's really niceAnd you have free registersAnd there's no entry barriersAnd actually you can get the sponsorsFrom companies or from individualsAnd moreover you have a peer review in itAnd there are some cross-border communityCollaboration at CosconIn TaiwanThere is a sitcom that is student IT conferenceThat means the studentsAnd there are volunteersThere are about 200 volunteers every yearAnd then they organize these kind of conferencesSpontaneouslyAnd students are the organizersAnd they would invite those teachersWho make a lot of contribution in itSo the students can invite the teachersTo join the conferenceAnd usually it's the teacherWho organize the conference like CCFBut in Taiwan this one is the oppositeAs for this concept actuallyIt has been popularIn Taiwan and has been borrowed in Hong KongAnd in Hong Kong there is sitcomHong Kong and in mainlandIt has a source conWhich is a student open source conferenceIn mainland ChinaBut for bottom up it's really importantAs for the conferenceThat were big eventsBut in Taiwan there are also smaller onesLike Shanghai Hacking TuesdayThat's the Hacking ThursdayWhich is smallerAnd also the Mozilla SpaceActually has a sponsored spaceWhich can host about 20 to 30 peopleTo talk about open sourceAnd you can actually apply for this spaceIf it is about open source eventsAnd you can apply onlineAnd actually the management of the spaceIs also done by volunteersAnd actually the cleaning of the spaceIs also managed by the volunteersSo if you are freeYou can just buy this spaceAnd that might be something interestingSo this is mostly about hardwareOpen sourceSo in ShanghaiThere are also similar organizationsAnd in ShenzhenThere are also similar programsAs Richard mentionedTaiwan has the open source community cultureSo people are gatheredBased on the same hobbiesAnd for this kind of cultureThis is really influencing TaiwanAnd actually as for open sourceActually in the pastYou are waiting for people to teach youBut with open sourceEveryone is a collaboratorAnd everyone can actually contributeTo the communityWithout waiting to be calledTo make a contributionSo people have been talking aboutGo and cognitive and deploymentBut we were talking about G0VOr we call it GOV0So actually this is a communityBased on internetAnd this is a non-profit communityAnd we believe that we can bringBenefits to the societyAnd the mission isDon't ask why nobody does itActually first you need to knowThat you are nobodyAnd nobody is capableOf doing everything on himself or herselfThereforeWe propose this conceptAnd the QR code you can see hereThis is the WeChat groupFor this presentationSo I believe there are a lot of thingsThat we can do togetherFor the communityActually it's not based on any languageOr on any technologySo actually we have been involvedWith many thingsWhether your work hoursIn violation of the lawsOr we also help peopleTo measure their plant conditionsAnd also we help peopleWith their household stuffSo this organization helpsIn arts, education and agricultureNon-profit and journalismDisaster prevention etcSo there are a lot of thingsThat we launch in this communityA lot of things has been addedSo many languagesHas also been addedAnd also some local dialectsHave been added in this platformSo these are the thingsThat we want to doSo the programmerWants to put on some vegetablesSo actually they are all in GitHubAnd all of that are open sourceSo actually for open sourceThis is really inclusiveSo as for our communityDo a lot of things about householdsFor exampleIf you are workingTo help different industriesWe need codersBut we also need other skillsSo here are the skillsStickersWhich shows the skillsThat people have in this communityAnd every two monthsWe have a HexonWhich you can hostAbout 100 peopleAnd people argueWhat can you doIf you organize a conferenceFor one dayIn every two monthsWell the fact isThat it has been runningFor one year or two yearsAnd for HexonActually you meet peopleFrom different industriesAnd you might meet peopleWho are in iOSOr in app developmentAnd you can start collaboration with themIn this platformNext I want to talk about a toolAnd how we havePromoted the open projectSo we believe everything is equalAnd actually it is decentralizedSo in the Hexon proposalWe use the Hexon folderAnd you can actually sendThe proposal and the GitHub connectionAnd whether it's MITOr other authorizationAnd then in the app folderThen you can listThe different connections hereSo when we have an annual conferenceFor 1000 peopleWe use the same proposalsThe same proposalsAnd everything that can be publishedOnlineAnd for exampleThe information about the venueAnd the financeAre very transparentSo we also useHexon folder for aspect in TaiwanSo when there was aspectActually we integrateAll the resources onlineLike all the news onlineAnd they are like20 or 30 people onlineAt the same timeSo they can do it in 10 minutesAnd it can be connectedYou are existingPerfectAnd which hospitals still have bedsAnd also the reports from the residentsAre put into a mapAnd nextI want to talk aboutThe open source communityIn Chinese mainlandI know this thingsBut I always thinkI want to tell the open sourcePeople in mainlandThat in TaiwanOpen source communityHas been doing things for many yearsHowever they are not knownIn Chinese mainlandSo it happened to meThere are several members hereFrom the Taiwan showSo I want to say thatThis is a platformFor all of you to join inSo that we can connectThis open source peopleAnd then they can do something togetherIt's not like what's beenDone in TaiwanBecause it's been like thatFor over 10 yearsFor exampleApache Roadshow in 2015Apache FoundationFor the first time in ChinaAnd we as conventionWorked with themCollaborated with themSo at that timeWe thoughtLots of the Apache projectsWere introduced to ChinaI mean it was not so formalIt wasIt's sort of likeWe became a partnerApacheAnd also we haveThe open sourceAny conference in ChinaIn the pastHow the organizationsHad done similar thingsSimilar eventsBut we selected the topicsAnd that were sort of differentAnd we were less commercialAnd we had different opinionsWe want to letThe open source peopleTo decide everythingAnd also we talked to universitiesAnd also likeAfter competition and so onLast yearWe made thisChina annual reportOpen sourceSo you stillAnd also in itTo send out questionnairesSo todayIf you happen to passBy Kai Yuan's boothPlease fill out our questionnaireSo that we canMake the 2019Any report of ChinaOpen sourceLaterIn to send the linkTo our WeChat groupWe should just join inSo if you have timePlease help usBy filling out the questionnaireI as one personCan not do muchAnd our core teamOnly has like20 membersBut I want more peopleTo join the Kai Yuan showI work in HuaweiSome other membersWork in other companiesBut pleaseLet's both spend some timeA little timeDon't just push others to do thingsNobody isOmely potent or anythingWe just want to invite peopleTo join this organizationSo together we can do thingsThat's the important thingI'm not trying to advertiseFor Kai Yuan showBut I thinkYou may have ideasAnd you don't haveTo join this organizationYou can also startYour own organization or somethingSo that China will becomeA more fertile landFor open source communityAnd we still needStill need to spendA couple of minutesTo wrap up this sessionOkAbout the open source codeWe knowThe community is more than the codeWhen people only look at the open source codeThey only look at the achievements of the peopleThey don't want to contributeThey only want to use othersOthers codeOthers achievementsIn the past yearsChina really took lots of thingsFrom everywhereBut now graduallyChina's attitude is changingThe sentiment is changingChina now wants to contribute toIf you readIf you read the BibleIn ChinaMaybe not many people read itIt's a better fortuneTo give than to takeSo in the pastChina left everythingSo it took many thingsFrom all over the worldBut now China is becoming richerSo it should do somethingIt should giveIt should contribute moreSo that we will haveMore positive cycleSo togetherWe can fertilizeThis land of open sourceWe often sayThis is a fertile landAnd that is a fertile landBut that meansThat we contributeTo make it fertileSo let's roll up our sleevesAnd work hardThat's what the Chinese leaders saidSo talk his lipsSo we don'tWell, I think I just remindedThat I still have five minutesSo let's keep those five minutesFor Q&ASo I have to sayFor presentationSo any questionsThis one pleaseWell, you knowIn Chinese millionPeople work likeYou know 996Have you heard about 996?They work 996 days a weekAnd thenThis traffic jamThey get home at 11And then the next morningThey go back to workSo how can they have timeTo workAnything for open source communityWhat's your suggestion?Oh, very good questionSo my suggestion isYou can always spare some timeIndeed, this is a harsh environmentI actually visitedEuropean AmericaAnd I visitedFacebook and Google and so onThe world is not equalBut even though it's not equalWe still need to make progressI mean, this started earlierIn ChinaSo they are not doing betterSo we always do have to doA difficult job here in ChinaStill, we should contributeTo the open source communityAnd if you are able to do itIt means that you are very competentIf you are very competentOr if you have highIf you have high competenceAnd high expectationYou can do itSo it's the strong peopleWho do these things, right?Let me add somethingI follow a questionAbout 996996 days a weekSo I think many organizationsThey stay in the office until 9 p.m.Because the boss is still in the officeSo they feel reluctant toTo leave earlySo they are just sitting thereLike idling aroundWith all going homeHowever, if you sit thereIn the officeBut being unproductiveThen spend that time quietlySpend that timeThe evening timeIn the office on open sourceYeah, you don't have toLet your boss goI mean, it's not much timeIt's not easyAnd you don't have toWork on open sourceYou can also do somethingTo maintain your healthLike sometimes people sayThat they work 996And they become unhealthyBut don't say thatDon't blame your bossDon't blame your companyDon't say thatAnother company is likeAnother company is goodAnd yours is betterOpen source is harderAnythingLet's justLet's justWork on the difficultiesAnd find outOur opportunitiesTo do moreFor open sourceAnd otherwiseAnd I hopeWe don't have toWork 996 in futureOkay, thank youWell, I want to add somethingSome people sayThat open source isVery demandingThat I have toParticipate in big projectsI have to likeWrite lots of codesOr anythingBut actuallyYou can do very small thingsMake a small toolOr likeThere are some research workYou cannot do on your jobSo you want to doOutside your jobI mean it's notThat very high requirementYou can take thoseVery small stepsBaby stepsAnd still make progressIn the open source communityThank youHere's one questionAnd then nextIs that oneOkay, my follow up questionI think you haveGreat experienceYou have been workingOpen source communityAnd meanwhileYou work atHuaweiSo I want to ask youHow isAnd how isHuawei doingLike howAre they promotingOpen sourceBecause I thinkDoing a job inHuawei is very stressfulHuawei is aVery demanding employerRightSo your jobIs already busyAnd stressfulAnd thenHow do youWork on the open source communityAnd alsoHow is the open sourceWork helping your jobAndHow do peopleShare the resourcesAnd wing togetherIn open source communityWell, it's not justIn HuaweiI mean anyChinese companyI worked withHad only two possibilitiesTo do theOpen source contributionOne is thatYour companySends you toDo contributionTo make contributionTo the open sourceAnd alsoOtherwiseIt's your personal hobbyAnd interestSoOpen source projectIn ChinaSo it's theFirst Apache projectBy a Chinese teamSo HuaweiThink it's importantThat's whyThey send people toWork on itAnd those peopleWho were sent toDo it are nowMy bossSo I understandTheir ideasAnd they didComplete their jobAnd they becameOpen source expertsTo find out moreAbout ApacheThey learned a lotAnd graduallyThey learnedIt was funAnd thenThey made friendsThey worked withLots of Indian friendsAnd work on it togetherNowThey really enjoyOpen sourceEven thoughThey may haveDifferentInitial impressionAbout Open sourceThey did it for their jobI started for my hobbyBut we bothWorked onOpen source communityIn ChinaAnd we areBoth contributingSo there'sNo conflictNo matter it'sYour job or your hobbyHiAboutOpen source communityThe individual contributorsAnd corporate contributorsAre both importantRightYeahLike in ChinaWe can seeThere are moreAnd more companiesAre paying attentionTo open source nowBut nowThe phenomenon is thatSome companiesUse the open sourceAs a KPIKeep performance indicatorsSo they firstDo some projectsOn open sourceAnd thenAfterwardThey don't pay attentionAndIt went sourSoWhen you look atOpen sourceCommunitiesIn TaiwanIn the other countriesAnd regionsAccording toYour knowledgeIs thatSomething thatHas to happenIn open sourceOr is it just becauseChina is stillUnderdevelopedIn terms of open sourceWellIn ChinaIn Chinese mainlandThis isA special phenomenonSoEven ifYou go toDNPConsumer review websiteThey still tryTo fake the ratingsBut thenThey may fake the ratingsIn GitHubAs wellSo they have toExceed the KPISo they tryTo do thingsTo achieve the KPIEven byNot very goodNot very healthyMethesBut ultimatelyWe have to askThe fundamental questionIsIs such actionContributing to theIndustryOr to the sectorSo nowThey areNot thinkingAbout this questionHard enoughLikeNo matterHow hard youFake the consumer ratingRestaurant reviewWebsiteOr appUltimatelyThe businessDepends onHow did the food isSo if you lookHow manyProjects are openBut how manyOf them are focusedDepends onAsSoSo saidI have darknessAndAnd3software and open source softwareHow do you think of them?Well, I started my journey by looking forfor free software on the InternetI mean, I had to look for key, you know, on the InternetYou know what I'm talking aboutAnd then I thought it was not so goodI mean, since I was a childI was educated about for IP protectionTaiwan was blacklisted in the United StatesSo it was sanctionedSo I knew piracy was badSo I started to look for non-pirated free softwareBut sometimes they were bad thingsRapting it right thenI thought maybe open source softwareDidn't have that issueSo I looked for themSo I wonder why were they so sillyMaking free software, not charging the usersAnd then I got startedAnd second, about the free softwareAnd open source softwareI read Thomas and RichardAnd read their worksAnd then I understood it betterI mean, when I was placedThe Taiwan Central InstituteI read those books and understood moreI think we are overtime, are we?Yeah, alreadySo, we can still talk to each other afterwardsRight, we are in a WeChat group alreadyAnd I will be outsideAnd please feel free to talk