 Here we go. Before we start, does anyone have any additions to the agenda tonight? Well, I'm not on the agenda, but I have a question. Okay. All right. So that I Looked at the the meeting minutes for the meeting just a week ago and they all looked fine to me So I'd move to approve. I Had one little tiny correction. Yeah In the paragraph about West Hill One of the bridges is pre-stressed not Restressed. Oh restressed pre. Thank you. Great Okay Hey, dude On that agenda we have tonight that next meeting date is wrong on that agenda Next meeting it's right number 14 instead of yep August Is that on the Is that on the minute? No, that's on the agenda On the agenda you sent. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Just the next meeting at the bottom. No big deal. Yeah All right, so I'd move to approve the the minutes with the removal of one P as Pat noticed Yeah, second the on favor I okay Dorothy what do we owe this honor to? I have a question about whether we could have a flower show on Friday the 11th of September in conjunction with the farmers market on that Friday I've already spoken to Beth and she said it's fine but I thought we would need to ask your commission if we use the gazebo the bandstand or and the surrounding around the bandstand and It would we would follow all the safety restrictions. They follow at the farmers market There would be nothing different. It would be masks and we would have one-way traffic and Yeah, we'd monitor it. Yeah, so that's basically it. We're not charging any money It's just an activity to go along with sounds like an enhancement of the farmers market there Yeah, yeah, I thought so and this is a request from the flower committee of the Federated Church Who is always the sponsor of the flower show? I? See no that that sounds sounds I'm fine to me. Do you guys have any input on that? No, no to me. Oh sounds good. Yeah Yeah, all right, we will we will do that. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Yeah, all righty. I'll sign off. All right Yep They sign off Dorothy. Yeah on the agenda they're doing that the approval for the park use for the Way River Valley players. Yeah Yeah, we've got that application on on our desk here and that's um And that is yeah, I'm we're gonna approve that I or at least I would move to approve that I have seen no problems with that. Yeah, and that was for putting putting the People the figures up on the park, right, right. Yeah, I Didn't Second oh you second that and what what dates do you have written down on that approval sheet? I Have Hardest there nine seven nine seven to nine Oh 14 Yeah, that's fine I believe they'll be up. They'll be up for a week. Yeah, okay. There is no harvest fair, but we just wanted to have those Yeah Then echo of the harvest fair and echo or a precursor Yeah, yes. All right. Okay. Thank you so much. Really appreciate that. Yeah No, no, we appreciate your efforts to make life More beautiful in town. Oh, we'll do our best. Yeah. Thank you everybody. Bye Bruce I see you're on the agenda as a guest tonight Okay a couple years ago Mark Harvey came to the historical society to one of our meetings with the idea of having a new Veterans monument place somewhere in town and this would be to honor the veterans Hosts World War two so from Korea on up to the current time. Yeah So he asked the historical society to take the lead on this and it as you can tell now It's taken a while. Yeah, but I did go to the VFW and the American Legion Brought that up to them. They thought it was a good idea Didn't really come up with any concrete suggestions of what it might look like or where it should be But the one thing they did say was don't try to put specific names on the monument You're always going to leave somebody out or misspell somebody's name So it should be more generic of honoring those folks So we kicked the ideas around and finally Decided that the best location would be down at Woodlawn some place down in in that cemetery So in the last month, I've met twice with a cemetery commission Once at one of their meetings at the town clerk's office and Last week we actually went down to the cemetery and looked at at least three potential sites and Right now We're thinking the best location would be on the left-hand side of the entrance road is you're going up the hill directly across from The memorial bench that's already there but not try to Configure the slopes to make it on the same level It would that would require a lot of cuts and fills To bring it down to that level. So we were thinking of just creating a Small flat area and Some fill would be required on the very left-hand side of that and that would be held in place with a low Native stone wall like you see around different areas of the cemetery So that's a preferred location we do not have any kind of a final design But the way I've been leaning is toward Just a rectangular slab Verdi antique on a substantial base The insignias of of the armed forces would be displayed there and then We would probably name the different conflicts and possibly put the dates down if we can Accurately, you know, find out what those specific dates are The wording like I said would be something generic to say that something similar to in honor of the women men and women from Rochester who have served their country in times of conflict or you know something like that So that's where we're at right now and we wanted to get Your folks thoughts and permission to put it there in wood lawn It sounds sounds appropriate to me. I think that's a that's a good good location That was one of the questions that came up before is where Where would it go, you know? And who is there who would be funding the purchase of the stone? There's a donor who has put money into an account so far. Yeah, we're open to get Some more donations or maybe even the whole slab donated. I wouldn't be surprised if you could do that. Yeah, I Think I think there was a considerable donation up when Hancock put up there Monty there's three monuments there. Yeah Yeah No, that sounds I'd I'd encourage you to move forward and go ahead. Do you guys have any see any issues with that? No, I think it's a good fit Something that we could do there pretty easy I think that's the appropriate location There's there's plenty of room to pull off the the entrance road there in park It isn't a steep climb from where the lower road Intersects the main road there. So, you know, most people could get out pretty easily and go visit the monument right there Both of them actually Right. They'd be close to each other. Which would be like I like that idea of that about them being Racketing the road like that. I think that's appropriate. They will be aligned. Yeah one directly across the road from the other But not on the same elevation Problems I mentioned. Yeah worry about floodplain in that area I Think we're where we're talking about Without doing any excavation. We're well out of the floodplain and it'd be well anchored. It's not really a big structure that You know, the footprint is actually going to be pretty small No, it sounds great Bruce. Thanks for your energy on that Well, we got a ways to go. It's not going to happen this fall, but hopefully some of the work will get all done and yeah I'll certainly come to the select board with a final design so you can take a look at it before it gets carved, right? Once it's carved, it's hard to change. Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to spell anything wrong No Not at all, especially someone's name. All right. Well, thank you Bruce. You're more than welcome. Yeah Um, that's it for the guest. Um, Joan, you made it in tonight. What you got for us I don't really have anything new since last week. I know it's pretty close turn around from last week Yeah, don't work it on the same stuff I reported on last time Yep All right, Joan I had a question Yeah, what were the go over again the two types of bridges for West Hill? Uh, okay, let me uh turn on the video. So you're I can one one was a precast Uh concrete bridge so right And it was all going to be cast off site and then brought in and set with a crane And then the other option was a steel bridge with poured concrete in place kind of, you know, old fashioned Yeah, the footings with steel girders Right. Yeah With concrete abutments Yes, yes Just seems like it's a awful, uh Short span but I know everything I know how We've got a foot bridge across the road from there that cost $150,000 to Yeah, I was kind of shocked at the cost estimate. Um But the angle You know significantly wider because it has to handle those big logging trucks Correct Is Brian said a lot of that cost is in uh pre construction expenses, isn't it? Uh, well I don't I don't think it was that much Um, he asked them to take it out because they had included, you know, all their design services and that kind and The forest service will be providing most of the construction phase, uh over engineering oversight as opposed to vhp So, uh, they forgot about that Um, so we have some new which I'm sorry. I don't have to be it It's on both of them now are under a million dollars, but they're still like in the 50 to $900,000 range So it's either way it's it's an expensive bridge. Yeah Yeah, there's going to be some good timber coming out of there Yeah Yeah All right, thank you. Yep. Well, all right, Joan. Thank you. Um Really? um come to the Most exciting part of the meeting is setting the municipal tax right for next year Which we've got presented here to me at 0.5669 and that's just the municipal not the school tax, right? So There we have it um I don't think there's much more tweaking that we can do on this one. Um I'd move to to set the preliminary tax rate at 0.5669 for fiscal year 2021 I can second that Yep, all in favor All righty And um, even though we delayed the uh tax payments by a month and knocked it into thirds That's uh, it'll come up before you know it and that's um, it's all the same in the end, right? Yeah, eventually. Yeah Hey, uh, just something that uh We were talking about the cemetery there for a minute ago and I was I was up there the other day and I happened to be that brook is dry right now. Oh, yeah It's uh, it's got water up by the cemetery bridge there, but that one going into town that there isn't much of a Uh gap underneath that from the gravel in the bridge itself, and I don't know whether we should Talk to the state maybe and see if they want to clean that out while there's no water in there Because it's pretty it's only a couple of feet uh Yeah dirt is underneath there, of course It's always going to do that because you can't once you dig a hole in there. It's just going to fill up But yeah, I'm afraid if we do get some bad You know logs coming down there. They're never going to fit Go go under that bridge The way it's set up now And we do have some trees there along that cemetery brook that are certainly going to come over at some point. Yeah um, so I don't know did some work on that last um Last fall it seems and they did some work under the bridge on um by robinson avenue But and then it just turned and filled right up again, right? Yeah, and I think they did the same thing here. I I don't know if we should alert them or It doesn't hurt to do that. I think that that we should Um, I I just noticed that the other day and yeah, I should bring it up Do you want me to take care of that? Yeah, do you mind talking to them? I think they're tired of hearing me ask them about it. Might as well get another voice I'll give them a shout. Yeah, I don't i'm doing it Then you're right now. There's no um Water in there might make it a little easier. Yeah, it might might be easier to get in there and dig it out Yeah, I think that thought is everything was so Sturred up above that that is just going to continue for a while to keep flushing and gravel down Into that. This is the same issue that uh with dean and his um project which is slowly moving forward Up um, you know across um from his house or below his house in that bridge yeah, but and um Joan thank you for your work on um on securing the finding partial funding for that that was um Sounds like that might actually happen. Yeah, just might yeah. Yeah Okay, um boy I um Did we cover it? I just threw the basement on there. I kind of like the I went down there the other day just to look over I I'd kind of like to Get something going and try to clean that place out Um, I don't know exactly what the plan is yet, but I'd like to go down and at least start organizing it If that's okay with you guys Um, and then I would probably request some volunteer help and maybe we could get some stuff moved Without the dumpster Something like that schnobble Get something somewhat organized down there Well, it's sort of organized, but I'd like to Start making it more permanent and start cleaning the stuff out of there I'd like to see uh all those desks out of there get rid of all that stuff So it's because it's just a mess down there. Yeah And uh, when you get back in vermont and nancy, maybe you could Go down with me sometime and just show me where your historical stuff is and To make sure because I'm going to When I do that I'm going to kind of organize it so we can get through and And toss that stuff out. I I'm going to talk to the people down at the the recycle place to see if there's some other place we should take all that Electronic stuff and there's a pile of it in there. Yeah Rather than just down there. I know they have a small section there that they Allow to dump that kind of stuff But I don't know if they'd want that much There's going to be quite a lot if you get the tv's and all that other stuff And I think the town's probably got a couple pieces they need to get rid of anyway, so There's out in back of the garage too that need to be looked at Yeah, and remove. I know I I have looked at that nancy It's just mainly there's a lot of wood and there's some steel out there, too And I I would talk to them about metal because there's a lot of lockers down there. I don't see any use for them I would talk to Mention it to cooter and terry maybe about anything they might want. I noticed there's some cones in there some shovels There's a battery charger. I think the fire department might be wanting that Is the refrigerator still there? What's that? Is the refrigerator still there the refrigerator still there that would have to go and in the furnace room there's Stove a stove and the dishwasher I think Yeah, it could be I'd also like to look at taking the water and stuff out of there I'm not sure we really need it in there and there's and I noticed that It looks like we're heating that back garage Still I would expect so You know that because there's just that hot air vent that just goes out there I don't even think it's closed off. It didn't look it to me and so we might be able to save a little bit If we stuff that thing with insulation and Yeah, once we get some of the crap out of there, it's easier to see what's going on Yeah, so If you guys don't mind I might be willing to put some time into that If we need We'll need to keep an eye on things that are actually listed as town inventory and Go through the proper channels to make sure we're disposing of every of the town property Properly the constable property It's the constables property, which is just banded as far as I know, right? I know how do we deal with that? Did things how do we deal with that though? It came through the governor's safety council a lot of things I think most of the stuff that they really care about like they took the radar trainer back and we you know sign papers to give that to another other another county and I guess as pat men would just look at what is was inventoryed as a lot of stuff was on the inventory that Did not really have value and like old Defunct vcrs and stuff so we're just can I guess what you're getting at pat is we need to make sure to update that inventory appropriately as we Get rid of stuff. So there's no most of those things like that were picked up by tom From whomever wanted to get rid of them Right, right, and then they ended up on inventory Yeah, but I guess we just need to mention it at a at a select board meeting That you know, we are considering disposing of certain town property and and just make it official Yeah Well, let's put it in a minute Right now Yeah, I guess as we clean that out just attend to what keep running tally of Items that have been listed as as an inventory town property and then so we can Address them as they come up and do them properly. Yeah, okay. All right Cool I see um susie small and you just joined us We're just pretty much at the end of our agenda. I don't know if you had anything That you wanted to to Ask about or if you were just here to see what's going on tonight Yep No, wait, she's connecting. She's just almost connected. I don't know if she just heard what I said She's got a slow connection Does not look like susie is connecting very successfully yet You call she called me to get the login information um Maybe we could ask her to attend the next meeting Yeah, I'm pretty sure what she wanted to talk about. Oh, there we go Hey, suzie Hey, thank you. Hi. Yeah my turn. Yes, it's your turn Okay two things first, um um, I spoke briefly with you and with julie about my wanting to put up a fence around my backyard and um I've had julie has made a valiant effort to see if there were any Past surveys on record there and the one she came up with is a 1954 survey of my lot um, the town clerk Does not believe they have a survey done norm smith thought he did one but he corrected himself He actually did one for the firehouse to delineate the parking lot Marvin harvey had norm do one, but They they're not able to locate it. So what I would like to do at this point is is I have a pretty good idea that there's the existing fence between me and the town clerk Marvin's sure that the maple tree is right on the line and then there's the the town clerk I'd like to just pound some some posts in and um Have marvin the town clerk and somebody from the town just take a look at it And if everybody feels fine about it, I'll go ahead and put a sense and does that work for you all? Yeah, I think that's a good start Like you said, there are In the fence still in the zoning And that's all through them. I think so. Um, no, I spoke with Dan McKinley. Um, he's under the impression. Um, that because um The fence does not abut a an actual road um that um As dune advised me the fence can go right on the on my property line And I'm just assuming that the property line is where the fence is Since there's been no issues with it I would I would Think that's a fairly safe assumption now. You said you did find a survey of your property from the 50s Um, Julie did um, but it's it's you know, it's it's written in Surveys, um, there's no, you know, there's north southeast west But there's no footage It's there's nothing there that I can understand Um, if anybody if any of you could understand that I can share it with you So it sounds like there's the an existing fence that you're going to replace with the more substantial fence On bordering the town clerk's parking lot, correct? Correct, and then the the the real question then is On the back side of your property Where that separates from the parking lot behind the credit union and that's what um, That's what the question is where that line is Well, yeah, that yeah actually yes. Um, so I I have spoken with wanda She made a thorough search through her records attic basement and um What I'd like to do is just approach her with this idea of Of somebody the board, you know, I don't know who they'd have come and look at what I want to do There when we bought the house, there wasn't the the fence does Turn the corner And and there's there was also a perennial flower bed already established And my plan would be to to to just continue that fence line or maybe because there's a tree there um And if they if they're fine with that then I can go ahead and um Yeah, just get a little bit of privacy here. Yeah That it since that fence does turn the corner and head towards route 100 that does Make sense to me at least to continue that I guess you're putting some stakes in way where So we can see what you're talking about makes some sense Yeah, that's my plan. Yeah See Wasn't there even a kind of a light gauge wire fence along that line already or am I mistaken? Well, there was there was a a wire fence, um between the town clerk and um You know the uh That that could that came closer to my house But that was taken down because I think it was a plowing issue that it was there or something Or I think it it came down one winter when the snow was just really high. Yeah Does that sound good to everybody? It does To me sound good to you guys Fine to me is yeah I always thought that we had a fence ordinance in the In zoning, but I don't know if we do or not anymore. So I What dan told me is that That only applies if you're next to a An actual road, but because it's just parking lots next to me. It's not applicable But if you if you want to check in with somebody from planning and zoning You know and let me know if there is more of an issue then That's I don't have any issue with it really. I just want to make sure that there isn't any zoning issue with it That's all Okay, yeah, he said something about if it was an actual road he thought it was like a 30 foot setback or something Um, but uh, again, since it's just a parking lot that that wouldn't apply Yeah, I don't think that's an issue. No, yeah, and and I I explained him what I was going to propose to you And he thought that that was a perfect idea. Yeah You know just get get all the neighbors on the same page and move ahead Yeah, yeah All right That was you said you had two things you wanted to talk about is there a second one Yes, the second one is is um, I would like to have the ability to park two cars On the southeast corner of my lot Did If the utility pole and the sign weren't there I could actually access that spot from the road But because of the existence of those two things the only way I can access it is is from the town clerk parking lot Um And um, it would seem like the simplest way to to to prevent people from parking there and blocking me in Would be to uh, either I could do it or or the town I'd be happy to pay for it would be just to paint some You know, some of those diagonal lines that indicate no parking Um, there's there's four vehicles now connected with the apartment um, and for a number of years, um Um, when before rustle had to go into the nursing home and stop driving Um, we were parking a vehicle there and he spoke with the plowing guys about it and nobody had an issue Um, because they instead of plowing it became an issue plowing snow towards my property because it was knocking the fence over and They were running out of room. So now when they plow They just come in from the road from the road and they plow south to north And then they push it all towards the river um, but the the uh issue is is if I park there up on my lawn well, you know A few feet of it. It is probably town property for one thing And um, there are times where people will park and I can't get out and then I have to find the driver of the other vehicle to let me get out So I'm asking for, um The ability to do that Do you really get parked in that often? Yes I mean not now during covid but in the past. I mean, you know, there are there are even times when um Iti people will park there if there if that other two two lanes of parking get full up um and uh you know People visiting Mary Beth for others, you know, they're going to road is will park there Um, you know when there was bone builders, there were sometimes, you know people park there So Well, I guess we'd have to um have to give some thought to that to you know, to what extent we um Basically asking to turn the town parking lot into a driveway for your access I'm asking for a right-of-way to get onto my property. Yeah. Yeah, because you know the the bottom line is we're talking two parking places and It would seem to me that it might be Uh fairer, you know, iti is using a great deal of parking maybe That, you know, the two two slots next to the town kerb left town clerk could be designated as as two spots for the town clerk Um, and that would make up the difference, you know And as I said, if it weren't for the utility pole in the in the no parking on the road sign, I could access it from school street You know, so Yeah, I I really would appreciate you taking that into consideration All right. I'm not sure if we can make a decision on that tonight, but we'll um, well, um That's um, I'd like to Um confer with um couple folks on it and get back to you on it Okay, that that sounds great. All right. Well, thank you all for your time. Thank you. Yep. Okay okay um Anybody else have anything they want to speak about tonight Good because I'm hungry Me too Thank you all for coming out or for hooking up not coming out Reading in the in the news how zoom had major major outages earlier this morning across the east coast and some places in europe So I was curious to see if this is going to work, but it did so We're great. We're great. All right. Thank you all All right