 The following views and opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect the official position of the participants Sides of the debate have been assigned randomly in order to create conflict, comedy, awkwardness, and embarrassment Any resemblance between their true feelings coinciding with the side of the debate that has been dealt to them is purely coincidental What do you think? Should I have done majesties? I only would have done it for the cash So welcome back everyone we're doing episode number three of Dealing out a double-o debates today We came up with another topic. What is the topic of this particular episode John? This is a big topic in Bond history Should Sean Connery have done on her majesty's secret service? Oh, this is gonna be an interesting one. Yes beforehand We once again Randomly assigned a side to this I get to defend why I think Connery should have done Majesties John gets to defend why it should it's a bad idea to have Connery return in Majesties Who's gonna argue first? It's up to you This one this one this one's a biggie Well, I could present My some of my thoughts about why it was good that Connery Didn't do on her majesty's secret service By like 1969 when they were making this one, you know Connery he was already burnt out With being bond. He was already disgusted with all this double-o 7 jazz and getting screwed over and all that stuff You know, he had established his bond persona by then well established it with like the casual sex You know bouncing from one chick to another and being this ultra cool cool figure and To see the guy his character his version of James Bond Legitimately fall in love with a woman and he was gonna commit to this one single woman Get married be devastated by her death I think it would have just it wouldn't have worked It wouldn't have worked because like he was bringing too much baggage with all that bond persona that just He was so identified with Throughout the most of the decade It was it would been too much of a hurdle too much of a dramatic shift for Connery's bond I mean even like it with some of the his films like they might have flirted with giving him Like more emotion in some scenes like that famous thunderball moment He's not with Domino and like what's on the sunglasses Yeah to hide like supposedly to hide the tears welling up like they didn't even go it was so subtle It was almost non-existent if you know if we want to say like, you know That's what the intention of that moment was that move of putting the sunglasses on like they never went fully went there And they're probably smart because I don't know if Connery I Don't think Connery's strong suit as an actor is like the romance department anyway Yeah, like the only film that of his that I know or that I think of of Being like a romance where he's like, you know We see him in a role of being in love with a woman and it's like sweet and yeah all this stuff was Robin and Marion Where he played Robin Hood and like Audrey Hepburn was made Marion like they were older versions of those characters Um But I don't think like romance was his strong suit He was he was good at like, you know action action and being cool walking into casino looking suave Excellent in his tux, you know like majesty is the story They they needed a They had they had to quickly establish. Okay, this is a New bond story that we haven't seen before this is gonna be deeper than like what we've seen previously than him flying little Helicopters and stuff. This has got to be a lot more grounded and a lot more emotional. We have to you know, forget the old That's why they needed a new new younger bond a new actor To tell this story. It's just like Connery was well too. Well established. I mean like I'm not even like a big Lazenby fan, but I don't think I Don't think Connery would have done as well in the romance department with a lot of those scenes as George did Yeah, I don't think like I don't think Connery could have pulled it off any Better than like George did I mean like the action stuff and like being cool and staring down below felt Yeah, Connery could have handled that, you know fine, but The majesty story once they decided to go down that route. It was a perfect community to change up the series and They they needed to to eliminate Connery and Just start brand new instead of like having an old punchy bond that Connery would have been like in 1969 To be in love and like, you know, I have this Devastating like go ending and everything it wouldn't have worked as much as seeing a more young fresh faced Younger actor be bond and see like, you know, how this Can change his character shape his character, but Connery's bond was already fully formed and especially been 1969 He was so disgusted with cubby and and getting screwed over. I don't think he he would have even put his all Into that part anyway, right Well, I think Connery would have aced it to be honest Also the romance bit and I think one argument could be made that Why Connery was getting fed up with bond besides, you know, his you know Disagreeing more with with Saltzman and broccoli was also He really loved from Russia with love and doctor know when he did it by Goldfinger He said, you know, things were getting more It was getting centered more around the hardware is what he always said like, you know away from the characters and He started disliking by the time of Thunderbolt flying, you know, the jetpack and when it went into the fantastical more He always wanted more of an a real Emotional story, which is exactly what majesty's is and I think why the romance would have worked so much Why would have been so much more interesting to see Connery's bond fall in love is because we've seen him Not do that in the in the other five. We are familiar with his bond in the first five We've seen him, you know, go from one chick to the next, you know, he is pissed when The chicken Goldfinger is painted gold and but you know Next thing, you know, you know, he tries to bang her sister as well and then goes to physical glory in the head and you know molester and hay but But I think just because we've seen that that's how our bond is and then all of a sudden to see him lose his heart To this one chick that does get into this part just like in the novels I think it would have been so interesting because there's the heartbreak I think would have reached me more to see Even, you know, Connery doesn't have to have tears and then Lazenby doesn't have it either in the take day they use but to see him Generally be devastated you know to have his is newly wedded wife be killed I think he and also the barn scene probably Lazenby did pretty fine with that, but to see Connery You know, would you marry me, you know to actually see him like wow, now he's real I think a lot of people will be like because especially women watching the early the first five Some women probably can't stand the way Connery handles women, you know slapping the in gold finger on the ass and you know slapping around all the Sexist stuff that's in it to see him. I think a lot of women would be like, oh, wow So he does have a heart, you know to see him confess his love in the barn scene I think would have been really good and There is a good argument you made like, yeah, he was getting more fed up with it You know, you only live twice clearly He uh, she'll hoard in his performance more than he did in dr. No and for mushy with love where he aced it, but Yeah, I think Because this was such a good script. He may have been motivated more. It's a big what if but you know, it's also Lazenby to me is very wooden. I'll give him, you know, you made a strong point with the romance scenes I think he does good with that But pretty much the whole film Connery would have Every scene reenacted by Connery would have been better Done by Connery than Lazenby could have done. I mean Connery's an actor That's an argument on itself. You know, Lazenby wasn't I think he he is capable of you know pretending to care for For diana riggs character in the end. I think he could have aced it Like even like, you know, how like they described like Connery in the in the in the films like he moves like a panther Like he's got a cool move To his bodies like I could see him Like the one scene where he he goes into the office and makes the copies and stuff and Puts the the briefcase the copy machine into like the crane I could see Connery doing that and like being so smooth and elegant Uh during that whole thing like opening up the door flipping through the playboy, you know, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, but when it comes to the With him and diana rig I don't know. I I I don't think he it would have been pulled off Any better than Lazenby And that was the core of that movie. That was like the whole Thing of this movie like him he meets the women like she's gonna drown herself That that whole like the it's kind of a corny montage of them walking and you know laughing with the the song going and everything Connery doing it It would just seem weird to me. It wouldn't look Convincing the love montage with Connery It definitely would have been different. You know, he he He he's probably less sensitive than than Lazenby You know, so the the shots would have been there, you know, I can see him walk next to her in that park And you know, look at um, you know, maybe on the horse I'm even having trouble with that but the part of the beach where they're like kissing in the wind Yeah, yeah, that's that's another one. Uh, yeah, but you're right about on that one I'll have more trouble picturing Connery with that stuff but They can add it differently, but and then at his age at that point because I I keep thinking like, okay He'd look similar to diamonds Yeah And him and Diana rig I'd be like, wow, like I know like they always cast older actors with the younger women like younger prettier women And so I mean he was being cast with Catherine Zeta-Jones like when he was like 70 years old But like it would have been Seeing like Ponchi, Sean Connery and beautiful Diana rig I don't know if like they would have clicked. I don't know like even visually like Yeah, that's yeah That's a good point, but I'm still convinced he would have been better than legs and be The Scottish um Oh, you know, that would have fitted more on Connery actually because of him being Scottish But I'm having trouble picturing him a little bit with that But I've seen him in all of stuff Fleming incorporated the Scottish background because of Connery. Yeah, so I mean, I could picture Connery walking up in like, you know, peace gloria in his kilt And then like he sees the room full of girls that that's very like, you know, Connery is just going to have a field day Yeah, and and I think, you know to see Connery mingling all these women Because with Lazerby, I'm like, you know, you're supposed to be in a committed relationship. What's this guy doing? But Connery, I think I would have found it funnier, you know, when when the when the eight is being written on the leg, you know, the room number Oh, yes. Yeah, and you could you could totally picture Connery sitting there like And what's the matter? But oh, it's just just like stiffness coming along, you know, you could picture you could picture Connery doing that stuff, you know With like With like the sarcastic, you know, he did it and you only live twice as well where um Where ackie goes like he wouldn't sleep with that horrible woman and he already did and he's like, oh no, I haven't forbid, you know that The type of he has that humor down way more than adopt Lazerby In that scene like he could do that, but like yeah legitimately. Okay. This is the woman. I'm gonna marry. Will you marry me Tracy? I don't I don't I that's because we've never seen it But I I think it would have been so powerful because Because up until that point we've never seen it. I think that's why it would have worked Like I said that the women would be like, oh Wow, he does have a heart, you know in the novels it also didn't happen until majesty's And and casino real and majesty's the two the two big women he falls in love with Yeah, maybe I mean I love Connery, but I don't know him in that as that bond and that story I don't know Maybe Lazerby isn't as bad as I always used to feel I think that's another argument I make in the first place majesty's is not one of my favorite bond films. That's very controversial in itself. I know a lot of You know, it's top favorite to the majority of diehard bond fans But one of my reasons for not getting as much into is Lazerby And I always maintain I love Lazerby the the man himself Like I identify with with his stories the most as a human being I just don't think he was a good bond And Connery's he was established. I think Yeah, I think majesty's could have potentially be one of my favorite bond films, too Had Connery started this probably may may, you know, it's the biggest one if ever But I think I can picture him in a lot of the scenes and you know, you could argue like the law of montage and maybe that Maybe Lazerby would have topped him in that one or Fitted more about the majority man The the the pre title sequence The you know Connery The cigarette and uh, you know the shots of him. Oh, yeah, but yeah, I can see Connery do all that stuff, you know The casino bit way cooler than Lazerby Lazerby doesn't have that Panda walk when he comes off the stairs and that it just looks like a farmer that just you know came from the wastelands And they put on a tuxedo for the first time in his life Very very raw. I started Connery. You know, you could you could picture him, you know looking around the women eyeing him and just I'm now picturing more of a doctor now Connery, of course You you have to imagine the diamonds one walking in but he would still be smooth probably But um, I mean, it's a hard one Like he had said during you only lived twice like he was done. He was basically, okay, this is it for me But I wonder if like they I never heard of like they ever approached him and or said Hey, we want to do majesty secret service. Would you be game for that? Because like they obviously contacted him again for diamonds or forever But I wonder like what if if he was ever offered Majesties or he knew what they were doing or if he If if he was offered the script or Exactly, and it's funny too because Majesties was originally going to be I think Instead of fundable they were already going to do it and again instead of you only live twice But it got it got shifted backwards every time because if there wasn't any snow In switzerland in that particular point in time. I think something like that I mean, you know, someone in the comments will say like, no, it was like this But it had to do something with the snow Why they they kept uh Putting it on a shelf for saving it for later until eventually Connery is bowed out and never got to do it But there could have been a point in time Where majesties would have been like the fourth or fifth bond film and Connery would have done it regardless Uh, he just finished uh, you'll live twice We had donald pleasance's blow felled like the big volcano thing little nally, you know all the gadgets Going back down to such a like a realistic spy story a realistic Bond story Would that have worked with the people have made that leap would it have been successful like the I think I think it would have been much more successful than it was now You know now it's in retrospect. It's really loved at the time It wasn't because of laser beam mainly because you know, there was never there had never been another one playing bond before Connery. I think it would have been and it's like Comparable to moon raker too for your eyes only Yeah, oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah Yeah, and and you know, no one would have minded to see I mean, hey They all loved it when he came back in diamonds, which you know, it's in my opinion the worst bond Yeah, but they all loved when he returned even though like technically Story wise majesties is the superior film But they they hated it at the time because of the laser beam Well, it would have been I've loved to visit the alternate universe to see Where laser beam was never cast as bond And then like you see majesties with Connery and then diamonds are forever with Roger Moore and that's his debut. Yeah Because it seems like like diamonds is essentially a Roger Moore thing it is Connery and And and also because guy Hamilton did it again. It would have fit it with the two he did after diamonds Yeah, I think another thing that annoys me with with laser beam is You I always really like the first Hour, I really struggle to just get used to It's just a one film, especially when you watch them in order It's like the first five are pretty fun bond films all five of them I like to you only live twice too and then getting into majesties. I'm always Really getting used to and then as soon as I'm kind of getting used to it You get to the part where lasonby is dubbed And it takes you out of the film again. It's like oh god. It's just completely different You know and he it's so weird and different And and it's it's like watching a different series different universe with that's the thing like yeah It is like that film is so different compared to like all of Connery's films. Yeah, like I think Connery Would be a handicap in that part I think the film Mainly feels different because of laser beam not because of the story I think the leap, you know, if we see Connery for the sixth time in a row And and in a now more serious story, it's not something drastically different because from russia would love was really serious too and so is In some ways, dr. No, you know It wasn't like gold finger fundable. You only have twice those three where it really went into The cinematic universe that the first two were very novel inspired I think You know, you you could see a leap like dark to know from russia would love it and gold finger Right, right and then being more serious with um With majesties, but I think most people would have accepted it a more serious tone You know, we don't need volcanoes every time, you know Yeah, it's true But like I still think like Connery's age and his appearance at that point he was just he was Had they done maybe majesties with Connery like yeah and dr. No era like young and ripped and It would have worked better, but like, you know middle-aged I agree. It should have Definitely like I said because they were gonna pay and yeah Yeah, it would have been perfect to see him at his glory days and like, you know Like he looked in from russia would love and gold finger and dr. No Like the those three are when he's at his absolute smoothest and it's funny too because like it wasn't that long ago It was like From But another another argument you made is um Him being paired up with diana rick and Looking the way he did, you know He probably wouldn't have been paired up with diana rick that this is what if territory, but the reason why diana rick was casted was Because he was such a good actress to make up for And she was yeah, she was amazing Yeah, and because lazily wasn't a good actor. They really needed star power next to him So probably but we'll never know this if connery did majesty's We wouldn't have had diana rick. Some some other chick might have played. Yeah, it's like, you know, it'd be like, uh Sean connery and rakel welch in But yeah, we'll never know but assuming but even if it was aanna rick and connery I I still think it could have been fireworks to see those two together And it's the second avengers chick he would have been with too. 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