 Adam does movies live. I'm of course, Adam. We have a spicy one today, folks. It's Friday night. I'm bringing something special back that's been gone for what seems like a fortnight. It's called Movie Feuds. It was a show I did for several years, several years meaning like almost a decade on the channel. Did over a hundred episodes. I had some really fun collabs in the past. One of which is actually gonna be on the show today. He's hiding in the back right now. I muted him. He hit him off into a corner, but he's raring to go. We're gonna get started right now. It's Alien 3, a movie that will go down in infamy by many as the biggest disappointment known to man. I'm not gonna build this up to be a terrible thing because that's not fair to the guest debater. I will just say, this movie sucks. I am not defending this turd. And Tony's gonna have a hard uphill battle to climb. I wanna point out that if you are joining us live on YouTube, there's a couple of things to keep in mind here. Number one, super chats are welcome. Please put them in whenever during the debate because after the debate's done, we're gonna go over your opinions on Alien 3, what you think about the film, or if you just have a question for Tony and I, put it in a super chat, very welcome. It helps keep the channel going, helps it grow. Second thing, vote for your winner in the chat. There's a poll going on on YouTube. You can see it at the top. It says Alien 3 is good, Alien 3 is bad. You're gonna wanna go ahead and put in Alien 3's bad for that vote. See Tony's already got his team here and they're setting me up for failure, but we cannot let that happen. So those are a couple of things I wanna point out. Let's bring Tony in for a quick little introduction. Tony. Oh yes, hi, how are you Adam? I'm doing great, how are you? Prop comedy. I'm doing great. Oh, whoa, I'm sorry, Adam. That, the thing underneath your name, saying that I suck, that's really out of line. Oh actually, that's an accident. I don't even know how Sheila must have put that in the intern. That is very immature. I would never stoop so low and do something like that. Also, I don't like that you said that my people are manipulating the election results of Alien 3 here. I don't like this mud slinging that you're throwing at me and my fine people, okay? The deep state is already out. They're rigging the election, they're rigging the results. These kinds of conspiracies will get you kicked off YouTube, Adam. That's right. I do notice it says Adam sucks. That's obviously not intentional either, right? Oh, that's words different, Adam. Okay, yeah, of course. Right, right. Well Tony, do you have any words you wanna sprinkle in before we start or should I just bring up the little intro and we can get going? Well, I love Alien 3. Okay. I'm a defender of Alien 3. I'm a defender of the actual best version of Alien 3, which a lot of people haven't seen. People like you have been forced with this inferior product, not knowing that there's a beautiful piece of art that's available to them. It's been available since 2003 and you're all just not seeing the light and hopefully I can get people to see the light today. So this is a complete redo of the film, shot for shot, totally changed, different script, everything? No, it's what the film was going to be, but it has, you might notice that a character that got a lot of screen time in the first act just completely disappears in the movie, he actually gets to finish his character arc. There's a lot more in the assembly cut as it's known. Yes, I have been gifted the assembly cut by Tony. I will watch it. How I kind of feel, just as a naive individual who hasn't watched it, I was told for many years that Daredevil, the director's cut is far better than the original Daredevil film. And every time someone brings this up, I ask them point blank, does it still have a scene where they fight on a teeter totter in a playground? And I can just see the blood drain from their face as they shake their head, yes. And I say, we're done here, we're done here. Look, the movie will probably still have the things you don't like. But I'm even gonna argue stuff in the theatrical cut, the actual story, I'm gonna argue that it's still good, no matter what version. I like the direction they went and they'll argue it to the death. Adam, I'll argue it to the death. Well, that's what we're here for today. So with that out of the way, let's get going. Let's start this thing. Oh wait, one last thing. Oh God, oh my God. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I just wanna let everyone know that I will only be answering $100 super chats for the rest of the stream. So, okay, that's the last thing. And if this sweetens the pot at all, all the donations today go to Sound of Freedom. Yes, yes, so please, $100 super chats, the sound of freedom. Sound of freedom, sound of freedom. Get it in the algorithm, get it in the algorithm. No, no. Anyway, anyway, that's it, goodbye. All right, let's do this. All right, I made that, I did that, just for this stream. Trying to give it a little spectacle. Okay. Tony? Yes. The first round is cast. Yes, I'm pulling up the cast here. Okay, I feel like you probably know this crew better than I do, but I will just lay out the lead star, of course, the strong female lead. And for a prison planet full of only men, it's about time. I'm talking Ripley, Ellen Ripley, Sigourney Weaver, she's back for a third outing. She shed not only her hair, but also some of her crew members, but we'll get to that later. Tony, Sigourney, if we could just focus on her at Ripley's character for a second. She is a complete shell of a woman in this film. She's not fun, she never smiles, she barely quips. She smiles. It's a miserable experience all around with her. Wrong, right off the bat. She does smile a few times. And I think- Is that when they're ripping open Newt with the Jaws of Life? No, no, no. It's when she's like hardcore flirting with the doctor. I think there's even more of that in the assembly cut where she really comes onto that dude. I actually like her a lot in this because she's been through hell. She's been through hell. She's woken up to an even worse experience. And she's really holding her own in that prison planet. She could break down and be a mess, but she's like, no, I gotta focus. I gotta make sure everything's okay. I love, one of my favorite Ripley moments ever is in this movie when she meets Dylan played by Charles Dutton. And he's like, hey, I'm a murderer and I'm a rapist and I done all this and I done all this. He's trying to scare her. And she like so confidently just kind of mocks him because literally, chronologically, a week before she was fighting a giant monster with a robot suit. So this guy like tried to hook himself up. She's like, yeah, that's cute buddy. Anyway, no, I really love her in this and like the struggle she's going through. Like she hates this alien. It's pretty much ruin of her life. And she knows what she has to do to stop it. She's conflicted about it. There's some Christ allegory there. I really love Ripley in this. Well, the whole thing is Christ allegory. The whole thing has like this religious undertone to it that I never feel like really goes anywhere outside of her doing the T-pose into the lava, you know, as in the Christ style. That's also because it was left over from previous versions of the script. So. Interesting. Interesting, yeah. Because I just rewatched this movie. I'm like, what does any of this have to do with anything? But again, we'll get there. You mentioned the sex scene. I don't know how familiar you are with the theatrical version now that you've kind of mixed potions with the assembly cut and all that. But in the theatrical version, it just snaps to Dunn, not Dunn and Dance. Charles Dance's character. Charles Dance, Clemens, yes. Dr. Clemens, he pops out of bed and you just see Sigourney there like stretching and it's clear they got it on but there's really nothing else there. They just had a little conversation. He gave her one final shot of vitamin D to catch my drift. And, you know, then she was supposed to just stay in lockdown while he headed out to clean up the janitor's mess. Yeah. That is one flaw with the theatrical cut. They like trimmed the couple seat. Like there's a sequence where she's like, she looks at him, she's like, I've been out here a long time and he's like drinking his like coffee, like shaking, he's like, so have I. Like clearly they're basically telling each other like, we're both really horny. They drink a lot of coffee in this movie, by the way. They have like these novelty size coffee cups at one point. And then later the warden hands him what looks like his own shit in a glass. Like it's just, everything is gross in this film. Again, that's for another part of the conversation. Also, speaking about her being bald, she did say like, she was also a producer on this. And when she picked David Fincher, she's like, what do you see for this character? And David Fincher is like, I don't know, bald. And she's like, I love it. So that was kind of her idea and they made everyone go bald. I mean, they went through like 45 different scripts at one point. What I found funny is in almost all of them from what I read, they were killing off Hickson Newt. There was no way these people were coming back. Except for the one that they made the audio book and comic for, Hickson Newt Hicks and News. Yeah, they're pretty much dead. Once they decided they weren't coming back, they die in every version, except for that original one. Okay, so Socorny, you liked her. You thought she was good. I just felt that she was kind of a zombie throughout this whole movie. Obviously she's still easily the best part of the film. And that's only because I thought the rest of the cast was pretty lame. There's no Bill Paxton. You don't have any of the great, I mean, even Bishop is barely in the damn thing. And that's only in one scene where she resurrects his husk of a body. I mean, the first- Hey, give him credit. He still cracks jokes when he goes, I can't feel my legs. That's pretty good. I mean, Bishop is always a good time. He's always a good time. Last, Henriksen, is that how you say it? Yeah, Lance Henriksen. Yeah, good stuff. From Millennium. Yeah, that's right. That's right. He was also in X-Files for a while and then he kind of spun off of that show. No, no, no. He was on X-Files after they canceled his show. They're like, we're going to finish your story in a shitty X-File. Oh, okay. I thought it was the other way around where the characters, so they gave him his own. No. No, that's too bad. That's a shame. Yeah, because he was in one of the seasons where Mulder was like kidnapped by the aliens and he filled it in. But one right before that, leading up to that, yeah. And then they had Doggett, who was the T-1000. Yes. Which is a funny connection because this movie copies a lot of Terminator 2 at the end and we'll talk about that as well. That's a cool incident, but we'll get into it when we go into the story. All right, so outside of Sigourney, we have Charles Dutton, who you pointed out, as Leonard Dillon. I'm not a big fan of this actor just in general. I'm sorry. Maybe it's the racism in me. I don't know what, I just don't like the janitor from Rudy. And in this movie, he's just annoying constantly. He's like, Ripley, you don't know anything. You know, we found God here. We found faith and he's just always up in our grill. And there's no point to his character anyways. He just dies and it's just over. Yeah, again, that's another thing where he's kind of like, he is like the kind of spiritual leader of the prison and they've trimmed a bunch of his stuff down too. They show him like mediating a debate between prisoners at one point. I like him. You could tell he's a man who's like full of regret. For being in this movie, yeah. No, although I will tell you, there's a funny behind the scenes footage where he's talking to one of the other actors and he's like, yeah, they say they're gonna rap me next week, but we'll see. But that's how much of a mess production was. Like even he was like, oh Jesus, I don't know what's going on here. He didn't like the movie at first and then he grew to like it. Well, you know who doesn't like the movie? The director, David Fincher. No, but yeah, I kind of like his character. You're right, they could have done a little bit more with him. Cause yeah, he doesn't really do a lot of like the stories. Like he's not really integral to the story until like the second half. Pretty much after Clemens dies. Sure. Yeah, but I like why he's there. He serves a purpose. He helps with the ending. Yeah, I dig him. I dig him. I think why he's not the best. Again, the flaw with this film, which is the same flaw with predators from 2010, they're all like horrible people. So when they get killed, you're just kind of like, oh no. Yeah, I don't care. That murderer died. And they all, that's the funniest part is because this whole movie is just grimy and it's got like a layer of Vaseline over the top and everything looks like shit. I could not tell half of the prisoners and the guards apart. They're just constantly covered in dirt and mud. And one guy shows up later who helps Ripley on that little Skywalk getaway vehicle that's going one mile an hour, just blowing a kiss to Bishop or whatever. I don't even know who that dude was. I think that's the guy that had the money shot of blood from his buddy early on the film. No, that guy that you're talking about is Gallic. He's the one who disappears from the theatrical cut with no resolution. No, I know who you're talking about. He's the guy they mentioned in the beginning like, oh, you made a deal with God to live forever. And then he's the only survivor at the end of the movie. Okay. They probably figured since all these dudes kind of looked the same, no one's going to even notice or pay attention. I'm looking through this list. There's really no one else in this movie. You have Holt McAlleny Jr. He has one scene in the film where he tries to rape Ripley. That's Robert Paulson from Fight Club. I don't really know him from much else. Well, how could you forget? He is the criminal that Batman fights in the beginning of the theatrical cut of Justice League. Oh my God, he is. You're on the rooftop when he kind of pins him to the wall and has the alien. But then the Snyder cut deleted him. But then they've worked in the character Desad who was voice act by another prisoner from Alien 3 whose name I can't remember. Also, Snyder's the blueprint, Snyder's the blueprint. Holt is also, he's in creep show too and he plays a Native American. And yeah, it looks as bad as you're probably picturing in your head right now. Because he's not Native American. I just noticed the guy person is trying to correct me that Robert Paulson was the name of Meatloaf. What I'm referring to is the guy, everybody is called Robert Paulson in death. I believe is the big joke at the end of Fight Club. So that's why I was calling him. I don't remember his actual name in Fight Club. I don't know if they ever gave him one even. But yeah, okay, let's go. Let's see what else we have here in this list of just this cavalcade of disappointment. I don't see anyone. What do you think? The last guy I guess I'll bring up is Brian Glover as Harold Andrews. He's the judge, right? Or not the judge, the warden. He's the warden. He was a professional wrestler. He was also in an American werewolf in London. He's good. He's really good at this. I just, I did not like him. I thought he had- You're not supposed to like him. He's- But also- I don't like the character, the actor that played him in this. He has this really high kind of comical voice. He didn't have a- This is room of control. He are the facts. I love that guy. What are you talking about? I'm just a simple country warden who fermentates my own shit. Yeah. Have a drink. I like him because he's trying to keep things together and Ripley and Clemens are kind of like, I kind of sympathize with him where he's like, why did you take her out of the infirmary? Everyone is horny and violent. You're fucking up everything. Don't let her leave that room. Yeah. Although it is kind of funny where she's like, there was an alien that attacked us and he doesn't believe her. It's like, well, you're in space, dude. It's probably believable. Well, then there's Ralph Brown as Aaron, his like second in command who lay into the film. We find out as an idiot with an 85 IQ. He's kind of shitty too. I truly don't. I just saw this movie three days ago and I did a full breakdown of the film and I have no idea who that is. He's the nerdy. He's like the suck up to the warden. He's like the real company dude. Oh, Ralph Brown, okay. Yes, yes. Yeah, he's so forgettable. Everybody's forgettable. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. Paul McGinn who ended up being one of the Doctor Who's in like a TV movie. He plays Gaelic, the crazy prisoner who sees the alien and gets covered in blood. His whole character is very interesting. But like I said, the version you have, he just disappears. He's just gone. Yeah, a lot of guys disappear. They kind of, cause a lot of, I should say a lot, someone get rescued when Bishop's crew comes down to the planet conveniently right after the aliens killed. Well, yeah. No, I think only one of them gets rescued. Moore is the guy at the very end. But yeah, all the other ones die, but he legit you never see him die. You're in the theatrical cut. You're supposed to assume maybe in the explosion. But yeah, he had a whole character arc where he became obsessed with the alien. And he thought the alien was speaking to him. So skipping the story real quick, they capture the alien in the assembly cut during that play. Oh, really? But the explosion, they managed to capture the alien. But he is, he has gone. He doesn't get the liquid, or he doesn't get the water on him. He doesn't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, that still happens. I'm talking about the first plan that goes wrong with the explosion. Oh, I got you. The explosion happens. And I know again, this is for story, but it counts for this character. The explosion happens, but they manage. The guy, actually, the guy who tried to rape her, he sacrifices himself to bring the alien into that room to trap it. Sure. And then, so he's another character who disappears in the theatrical cut. Then the crazy guy, because he's obsessed with the alien and he thinks the alien's talking to him, he breaks the alien out. And the alien just kills him right away. Beautiful. He did have this whole character thing that was very, very important. And then they cut it out. And when you watch behind the scenes stuff, that actor is not happy about that. Because he told all his friends he was in an alien movie and his friends are like, yeah, we didn't really see you a lot. What happened to you? I mean, I'm in cut number 14 of this movie. I mean, there's somewhere I've been telling you about. There's a cut. Man, think of social media was thriving back when Alien 3 came out. We might have petitions online. We'd have Tony leading the charge to release the Fincher cut. And Fincher, meanwhile, was like, I fucking hate this movie. I want nothing to do with this movie. Stop it. That's probably how Snyder really is. He's like, oh my God, I'll never be able to get away from the Snyder cult. Yeah, no, I talked to the guy who did do who got the assembly cut together and he's just like, yeah, we asked him. He said, no, he didn't want to do it. I guess the last character and arguably one of the most important ones we need to talk about is the Xenomorph himself herself. Do they have sexes? Are they asexual? Yeah, they're supposed to be asexual because she likes the eggs. There's expanded universe stuff where like if there is no queen, one of the drones will turn into a queen, but they're pretty much asexual. Sure, like changes. OK, yeah, there's only one alien in this one, which to a lot of people was a major letdown. Usually you just keep adding villains and adding creatures to take away and go back to the basics. One again was a little jarring and this isn't even a full grown alien. This is like an angsty teen, right? Well, I mean, that's kind of on par with the first one. But the reason it's different is because it comes out of a quadruped animal. It comes out of a dog in the theatrical version. Yeah, the assembly cut, it comes out of a bull or an ox. A space ox, yes. Yeah, which I like because technically the aliens, you know, they look like they're shaped like humans because they bonded with humans. So it was cool to actually explore that element and be like, oh, what if it went on a four-legged one? It would be like a four-legged animal, which I wish a lot of the other sequels took advantage of that, like that shitty alien versus predator, Requiem. It would have been cool if there were a couple like... That was terrible. But it would have been cool if there were like dog aliens running around and stuff like that. They could have taken advantage of that. Maybe not. Do I need to remind you of the predator where you had the predator dogs running around? That's a whole other can of worms. That's a little different. I will give you this. There were some concepts in this film that I did like and one of them was the xenomorph, the kind of thinner, sicklier look of it was pretty cool. It does have... We can talk more about that in the facts, which I guess we should just wait for. But anything to summarize, cast or are we good? We cover everything. Yes, I understand the boldness and not every actor gets like... There are some that look too much alike, but the ones that you're supposed to focus on, I really like. We've got to mention also Pete Pustilwaith, who's in a shit ton of movies. He's one of the guys that I wish had more screen time in this because I like him in so many other films. Pete Pustilwaith, where is he? I gotta look at this. He's rolling. I know his face. He has a very recognizable face. Yeah, whenever I watch this, I'm like, man, I wish he had like more screen time. Oh man, he isn't a ton of stuff. Holy crap. Zardaz is in this. People think Sean Connery is Zardaz. He is not Zardaz, but the actor who plays Zardaz is one of the prisoners in this. Yeah, I understand there's a little bit too many characters because they're all supposed to be cannon fodder, but the few that we're really supposed to pay attention to, I really enjoy. Yeah. Except for the theatrical cut when Gaelic's character just disappears. So, oh well. But no, I dig the cast. I like what they did with the characters. I like that they're all kind of shitty people that are trying to find redemption. And I really like Ripley's whole character in this. I know a lot of people don't, but I thought this was a fun struggle for her to go. Yeah, it was a very fun struggle, as you say. It was super fun. She's a shell of her former self. Everybody that she's loved is gone. She failed to destroy the Xenomorphs and her whole life has led to nothing but misery. Super fun. But think about like the previous two films. The alien is attacking her and her crew. The Italian. The alien is attacking her and a bunch of marines. Now the alien is attacking, but she's with a bunch of people who want to murder her. So she really has less allies this time. Yeah, it's just a very dire, kind of sad somber ending to a woman that already kind of had a sad miserable life ever since we've known her. So I think that, I mean, if that gets you off, then yeah, Tony likes seeing women suffer. He likes women dying. That's really the takeaway here. You heard it. You heard it. All right, let's go to the story. I think that we've spent enough time on cast. Okay. Let's go back to the meat of this, of this bitch. Okay. Look at that. That's it. That was all you got for a title thing because I don't have time right now to make it fancy. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Make sure to subscribe if you're new. Okay, first episode. First episode jitters. We'll get it all ironed out eventually. The story to break it down. Let me see if I can paint a picture for you. We start this film out, credits roll. We're on the escape ship, not a pod. It's like a little chunk of whatever the name of that ship was, I forgot the name. Do you remember? Well, yeah, it's the Sulaco. Then there's a fire and we go into an escape pod. Yes. Yes, okay. Ripley, Newt, Hicks, yeah, and Bishop are all in their little slumber party boxes. It gets jettisoned off, but we find out through super quick shots that there was actually a pod, a little alien sack tucked into the corner. I like how it's not just on the ground. It's like a net. The queen, I picture the queen like skulking in there. Puts it up there and just kind of like paints over it so they can't see it and peeps out again. She looks at the camera. It goes out. This was ridiculous premise to begin with. I don't care as much as other people do, but I do find it kind of silly. Here's the thing. You're complaining about how they fixed that error because originally they weren't even gonna tell you how the alien got on the ship. There was no shot to an egg. It was just the facehugger on the pod. You would have been like, what? I was like, well, I guess a facehugger could have also stuck on the ship, but it's weird we didn't see that. So I think some people were confused. The beginning is supposed to be intentionally confusing to a point for the fake out with who the facehugger went on. But yeah, they apparently, from what I heard, they're like, oh, we gotta add the egg. People are going, what the fuck where that alien come from? It was a little, it was very rushed when the credits fire up and it's every, half of the plot is introduced in this kind of flashback scenario very quickly. Ripley is jettisoned to Planet Fiona or Fiora or Peprika. They call it Fury, Fury Wars. Yeah, I call it Prison Planet because it's essentially just this dumping ground of former inmates who've all, I believe, because everything's kind of like quickly said and also boringly said. So I nod off while watching this film, but I believe they say the prison actually isn't active anymore, but everybody's just choosing to stay here. Is that right? Yeah, so what it was, and you're right, there's like, there's some weird audio issues when he's explaining her. There's a lot of background noise in that one scene. So it used to be a fully functioning mining facility run by prisoners that Waylon Nutani owned. They keep it active because they make, they make like blast shields for like a radiation. Like that's what that whole furnace and lead is there for. So it's basically they're there in case the company needs them to do all that shit. So they're just kind of let, that's why they don't need a full staff. They're like, all right, we only need a few people for this specific thing. So yeah, it's not well kept up because it's a skeleton crew of just a bunch of people who wanted to stay behind. Yeah, I was just gonna say what, I've seen this in several sci-fi movies. Tony, what do you call those things that like blow a huge amount of fire out of them? These like smoke stacks of fire, what are those called? I dunno, they keep calling it like the furnace. It's a furnace, a sci-fi furnace. Yeah, I guess so. I guess, or smoke stack, I don't know. It's housing the energy from the center of the planet and it's blowing it straight up. Yeah. All right, anyway, after that we, let me try to regale what happened in this film. She's found as a survivor and we are quickly told that Newt, Hicks are gone. Bishop is out of commission as well, but I guess he's somewhat functional. He's just, he needs to be rebooted to get a little new hard drive or something, whatever. So they killed off Newt and Hicks. And for a lot of people, that's already a deal breaker going into this movie because we spent all of aliens getting to know these characters who just survived like some of the craziest onslaughts of aliens imaginable and to so just like, not only quickly and unceremoniously kill them, but to spend the next 30 minutes ripping their bodies open and then throwing them in a fire. I mean, my God, talk about overkill. We had to watch that. Ripley's like, I need to see the body. I need to put my fingers in her mouth. I need to like take a bone sod or a torso. It's just brilliant. So when I was a kid and first watched this, I didn't like it. Yeah. I was like, oh no, but I couldn't stop thinking about it. And as I got older, I'm like, man, that is a, that is a great, like a bold way to start a sequel to a really beloved movie. Like that is, that was risky. Obviously it didn't hit the nail on the head for everyone, but I kind of love it now. Cause I mean, look, aliens was like a fun action movie, but at the heart of this, this franchise is supposed to be hard. And like that just ups the stakes. Like, hey, all the people that you fall for, they are now dead. You're on your own and there's more people who hate you now. So I like the stakes that it raises. I don't really, here's the thing. I like aliens, but like Hicks and all the Marines, they're meant to look like these cool tough guys. Just to show how deadly the aliens are cause the aliens wipe them all out. It's kind of like predator. We're going to show all these tough guys and the predator just wipes them out. So like, I'm fine with Hicks dying to be honest cause I'm in this for Ripley, not so much Hicks. Yeah. I could forgive Hicks, but killing them both. I mean, especially new to who, you know, her whole character arc was trying to survive. She was a survivor for how many months or years on this planet alone. And then boom, dead in the plane crash. It just, it didn't seem like it was servicing the story. It seemed like it was servicing the convenience of not having to put these characters back in the film. Part of me thinks because they, they deleted the famous scene where Ripley finds out her daughter's dead. That didn't really get released until like the nineties on like home video. So part of me thinks they were like, oh, shit. We really wanted to play that up in the last movie. And I do think that movie needs that scene, the previous one. So I guess they were like, you know what? What if we kill her surrogate daughter and up the stakes there? Also, I, when you see what the rest of the movie is like, I'm kind of glad there wasn't a little girl running around this place. I feel like that would have been. Well, I mean, if we're going to debate, it's not like this movie had to be made. Like the whole debate here is alien three sucks. I would have done a completely different film than this. Yeah. Also, if you're going to pick up where the last one left off, like you would have had to recast newt anyway, cause so much time had passed. So people probably would have been like, I don't like the new newt. Okay. And I'm actually glad that they didn't have the daughter thing in the second movie because that would made this even more brutal. She lost two daughters basically now. And then she's the worst mom of the year. And then Adam, hold on one second. I have another prop. Oh my God. And then she loses her green, giant baby alien in the next movie. So that's like a great kids. Mama, mama goes up with the airlock. I love that. I love that. That movie is hilarious. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the movie. Another thing with the beginning. I don't like the theatrical cuts opening where they just find them on the pod. I like the assembly cup where they show Clemens. The doctor is taking a walk outside. So we actually get to see a little bit more of that world. Not a lot of it. And he actually- Gipping the hat to no one because they're in this shitty-ass environment with just rain and- Because the storm is coming. That's why they can't be outside. But it was nice to see the outside. And he's the one who actually finds Ripley. She washes up on shore. And it's cool. The beach is all like black. Like the ocean looks like it's almost made out of oil or something. There's water? Yeah, there's like a whole ocean outside. Oh, wow. Maybe they did show that. But it's so hard to see anything in the movie. Yeah, for the reshoots, a lot of the exterior stuff was really toned down. But I like that he finds her and saves her basically. She's like choking. So that helps their character. But that was cut out of the other version. The other version they had to establish that there's now a dog in the prison planet. For some reason. Like the dog? Yeah, the oxes made sense because they use the oxes to haul the thing out of the ocean but they also like, they show in that assembly cut that there's like a whole like butcher area with like chickens and stuff. That's like their food. So the ox made a little bit more sense. I don't know why you would have a fucking dog in this place. Man's best friend. Man's best friend. Like a cat makes more sense for like rats or something but like a dog doesn't make any goddamn sense. I mean, I also don't know why you would actively live on a prison planet for 20 years without a woman. I mean, we're in complete disagreement. I mean, Adam, Adam, you know, out of sight, out of mind. I was loved. Adam, that's a man who's been very single for two years and hasn't had the best relationships. I would love to just be away from it all. You know, just cast away yourself. And it's like, you know what? You know what? You know what? It's not even an option. So I'm not even upset. It's when you know it could be an option if you're not having it that you go fucking crazy. Anyway. I love you saying that just like with the background in play with him as a man who for some reason has been having a hard time finding women for several years with his collectibles and stuff all around. You mean women are into the duct tape figures of me and my friends? I wish you would have said that while you were holding the alien four dolls. You just don't get what women are looking for. It's clearly not me. So yeah, so basically Adam, what I'm saying is let's let's ditch these broads, let's shave our heads and let's just go be miners. Let's just go live on a prison planet. All right. Let's go to an oil platform, Adam. Let's just do that for a little bit. But then I get chased around by Bruce Willis in a shop with some shitty Aerosmith song playing in the background. Dee dee dee dee dee. All right, let's focus. You brought up Spike the Dog, or I did, one of us did, the dogs in this movie. And that really is the catalyst for where everything's going to go awry because we see the little baby facehugger scamper out in honestly one of the best looking shots in the entire film. I don't know if it's the best in the assembly, but there's this eerie ass shot where it's raining out and you just see it like come out of the shadows of the ship, like that's a fucking good shot. That's not in the assembly cut. There's actually a bit of a continuity here. In the assembly cut, for some reason, there's no close-up on this thing. They built a queen facehugger. Oh. It's like the queen specifically left behind a queen facehugger. And they made like a toy of it at the time. So it's basically a bigger facehugger. It's got the queen's crown on the back near its tail and it's got webbed fingers. You only see in a one shot when they bring the cow in and the guys are talking like, how did this cat, like the thing is growing inside the cow and it killed it, but it hasn't actually burst it yet. Sure. And they're like, how did this thing die? And they're like, I don't know, we'll eat it later. And then a guy picks up the queen facehugger and he goes, what's this? So the idea was that this queen facehugger could impregnate a drone and a queen. Okay. However, when they went back to LA while they were doing reshoots and they shot like the beginning of the movie, they decided to just use a regular facehugger. So that's why it's like a continuity or in the assembly cut version. But yeah, so you never actually see the facehugger go on to anyone or move in the assembly cut. And it just shows up in the jail cell at some point. Yeah. And actually, I kind of wish, sorry, I know a lot about this movie, Adam. That's why I had you on for it. So I kind of went, so a big flow with this story here and maybe you might actually think this too. People are always wondering, hey, if there's like a queen about to be born, why is the alien killing so many people? Was that an issue you might have had? Cause a lot of people say it. No, because I just wanted anything to happen in this movie. All right. So the guy finding the facehugger and not being phased by it, that's to let like the audience and also with the lights in the county like the planet they're on is inhabited with like life, not intelligent life. Sure. So I think the alien like knows that there's other life forms around. So it's just, it's easier to just kill the humans and make them not a problem and just facehug a bunch of other weird shit that's outside of the prison. That's a thing that not a lot of people bring up. And I think the movie, the movie should have made them more of a point of that. Yeah. I mean, the movie should have made more of a point of not suck ass, but we'll just, I disagree. It's great. We'll just push forward. I am noticing in the poll right now, which you can, you can use on the live chat. Yeah. Alien 3 is bad is at 49%. And Alien 3 is good is at 51%. It is pins and needles right now in the live chat. Get your vote in, cast it out there. We know Alien 3 is bad. Don't do this Star Wars prequel bullshit on me where suddenly you woke up one day and you're like, you know what, rolling, that's a cool trick is a great thing to say in the film. Misa think innocent people are gonna die or whatever the hell he says. No, it's still terrible. Come on. It's because the new Star Wars movies aren't good. Doesn't make the prequels any better. Yeah. Anyway, let's get on with this goddamn movie. So Spike is killed. This is, while Spike is getting like freaking ripped into pieces, it's montage super imposed with a freaking boring ass janitor Rudy guy giving this awkward ceremonial speech, something while Hicks and Newt are getting killed for the 14th time in this film. And the visuals of the dog getting ripped open, blood everywhere are freaking awesome. I love this shot. It's a great shot. The xenomorph rips out of its body, blood's coming down. Maybe one of the most intense things in an alien movie, full stop. Some of this gems, there are definitely gems in this film. A lot of the close ups of the alien like covered in blood is actually in the assembly cut also. But the scene is cut pretty much the same where I like the idea of like, hey, because the prayer is about like death and rebirth. And we see like these bodies put away while this alien is breaking out and being born. In the assembly cut, we actually get to see the alien runaway. And since, well, no, no. So they never finished, I know what you're thinking. I know what you're thinking. Don't worry. So they never finished the effect back in the day. So they use CGI in the assembly cut to finish the effect. So that one actually. So more modern CG, like we talked in 2013, 20. 2003, but it's such a quick shot. It actually works really well because they had the rod put, like they had it on set. They just, by the time they went to do the effect, they decided not to use that sequence. So for the assembly cut, they actually painted over because it had an ox in the background. So it wouldn't have made sense. Why not just fix the four or five other garbage scenes then with the CG? If you already made the models. Because they didn't want to touch all the finished effects without Fincher's input. So that's why they kept the- Fincher doesn't like the movie. Yeah, but they don't- Fincher would be like, yeah, burn it to the ground They felt weird. They felt weird about making that big of an alteration, but they did it for the chest burst or because the effect was never finished. Okay. But I like both of those versions of the thing. Although, no, when I was a kid, I hated the dog because I had a Rottweiler and it made me sad because I was watching this movie with my Rottweiler in the room. Oh, that's, yeah. The movie made me sad too and I was by myself because nobody in my family would watch this pile of shit. My kids 11 and 14, they watched both Alien 1 and 2 and they sat down to watch this and I don't even know when it was 45 minutes in and now they're gone. They checked out. They're like, I can't do it, Dad. I can't. I don't know what to say, kids. I didn't pre-tell them that this movie sucked. I just said, hey, there is another Alien movie and they're like, well, why don't you show us it sooner? I'm like, oh, you'll see. And that was pretty much it. I'm like, well, there's actually four or five more Alien movies, but you'll see. You'll get there. I think we can agree this might not be the worst one, but anyway. It's not, yeah. Well, it's definitely not the worst one. Well, Alien Requiem is definitely the worst. And then I actually, Alien Coven Shit is the one I hate the most because it just ruins everything. I am a hundred percent there with you. That movie is so bad. Anyway, let's get back to this mediocre film. We get, despite the dog, he's infected. He dies and now we have teenage, I guess he's a full grown. He looks like a teenager to me, but I'll back off of that. He's a different version. Do you know what the Xenomorph is called, Tony? Because there is a name. The fans now, they've decided to call it the runner because people got tired of saying dog or ox alien. No, there's another name. What? There's another name. I saw it. I saw it. Oh, some fans call it the dragon because that's what Gaelic calls it. That's what you're referring to. I'm going to look at the species because none of that sounds familiar to me. Yeah, I guess they're saying runner X121. Oh, I don't know that. That's real nerdy shit that I don't know about. Oh, here's the one I'm looking at. Intermesivis raptus is the thing I'm saying, yeah. That's too far in the fandom for you. I don't know that shit. They're doing like potions and shit to come up with the names of this. Coming up with Latin names as if an actual organism. Yeah, if we look at the queen's cells from Alien 2 and we look at the cells of the dog and then another guy's like, actually, it's an ox. And then there's a record scratch and a pool ball goes off the table. For some reason, they're at a bar now and the scientists there. And then they go up to each other like, you say that again, you motherfucker. He's like, alien assembly cut is the definitive version and that's what the guy gets. And I was like, David Fincher never signed up on that. I'm sorry, I'm going up on a complete tangent. All right, so the alien runner, we're gonna call the runner from now on. He's wrecking shop, kind of. He's taking his time. He's picking off people here and there. There's an, this whole movie's ugly as shit. I just have to say it for the millionth time. It's a really ugly looking movie, color palette wise. Strong disagree. I love it. I love the look of this film. I really love the look of this film. There's a scene in the giant, I don't know, fan tunnel area. Is this a ventilation shaft of sorts? There's some guy drew the short straw so he has to mop it up. And I don't know what he's cleaning. This place is disgusting. So he's like sweeping up dust and he's just what putting it in another dust corner because the whole thing is dust. And so he steps on this alien remnants, the skin because it's grown up. And he's like, oh God, this is so gross. Says the guy who hasn't showered ever. And then he gets a face full of acid from this dude who's hiding out in another vent, goes mortal combat stage fatality into the fan blade and he's everywhere. This scene is awesome. That scene is awesome. That part is. That is awesome. Tumbling around. You know what's weird? So what happens in that scene? Okay, so this is when the alien is kind of like a team but just for this part, it's actually spitting acid into his face but it's the editing is so choppy. Oh yeah. It's really fast. The weird thing is, so I found actually the work print of this movie and that has a clearer shot of the alien's mouth opening up and acid shooting out. So that was a good choice. They had a coherent shot and they were like, nah, let's make it like all shaky and stuff to obscure it. I don't know why they did that. They were trying to get you in the mindset of the criminal or whatever. What's going on? That is a cool shot though. We're like the shadow like moves and we see it like standing up. Like that's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, there's some cool, there's some cool like that. You can just kind of see the silhouette of it and Fincher is like, all right, this is shot number 7000. Take number 7000. I'm gonna actually throw the camera at the guy as he's rolling and we're gonna use that shot. Did you ever see the behind the scenes on that stuff where, I mean, Sigourney Weaver was there for hours just walking down this whatever shaft she was in and Fincher just had to get this shot right. I couldn't even imagine and I love Fincher. His movies are so good, not this one. Okay, anyway, he's dead. Dr. Bangs Ripley, they've almost shared no screen time together. I think they chatted once in kind of an intimate setting. Otherwise they've been with other people and then she's instantly hit it and quit it scenario. She bangs it out. He leaves to go investigate, talk to the warden and this is around the time when she goes to revive Bishop outside. She gets Bishop, puts him back together, Humpty Dummies is ass. After being attacked and saved by Dylan. Oh, that's right. She almost gets a little gang banged in the outside wherever trash facility, this whole place is trash. She puts him together. Fincher's got a thing with the eyes in this movie. Ripley has this disgusting red pink eye thing going on and then Bishop has just puss in his eyes like half out, disgusting. Fincher's like the eyes. We have to do more with the eyes. I don't really understand the point of the scene even. I feel like it didn't add anything of substance to the film. Can you correct me if I'm wrong? She, I think her whole point is, so she was using him to like plug into the computer. Yeah. Like the Sulaco to like hear the security tapes. So that's how she confirms that there was an alien on board because she doesn't have confirmation yet. She's seen evidence that there is. That's right. But it's also like, she knows that if he knows and the computer knows that the company knows and they're not going to help, they're going to like come for it. So she knows, that's why she's being quiet about everything and not really telling anyone. She's very cagey about it all. She doesn't, she really doesn't want the company to know cause she knows they'll all be dead because they'd rather kill all of them and get the alien. Right, right. Yeah. And then, and then the, again, the only surviving character goes, please mercy kill me Ripley. And that's the end of all the aliens actor. Yes, that's, the aliens actors are all completely gone as was the plan all along. She mercy kills him. And then, I mean, we don't have to do this chronologically or anything. Let me just point out some of the other stuff in the film because I just broke this whole movie down. And honestly, I'm exhausted just talking about it. Let's talk about the highlight slash low lights for you. There's a moment when things finally go from zero to 100. And that's when doctor is giving the most boring speech ever about his childhood and how he was addicted to who cares what. Morphe, yes. Yeah, Morphe. I'm just, I'm like, why do I give a shit about you dude? And if that Xenomorph would have only come in five minutes earlier, we could have been saved. Well, I like it cause it's like, okay, this is Ripley's new man and she's learning more about him. And clearly we're learning so much about him so we could care about him. And then years before Ryan Johnson, they subvert our expectations and like even, so they've hit that this romance, they've established his character. He's almost like the second lead actor. And they're like, okay, this is our guy for the rest of the movie. And then the alien comes in and fucking kills him. By the way, the assembly cut, it's way more graphic. You see his like head get punched in and shit. It is fucking. Ruh, ruh, ruh, ruh, ruh, ruh, ruh, ruh. Keeps shooting his mouth at the guy. It's pretty fucking brutal. So I like that. I like that they're like, all right, well, I'm sad we lost those characters, but we like this guy. It's like, oh, psych. He's fucking dead. The runner Xenomorph gets a bat, comes back over. Just bailing on the dude. By the way, two subverted expectations cause that guy usually plays a bad guy. So we go into the movie being like, oh, I know that actor. He's a bad guy. They're like, oh, he's a good guy. Oh, he's fucking dead. Yeah, he's the latest. He's a Lannister. I know that in Game of Thrones. Well, he was the bad guy in The Golden Child with Eddie Murphy and last action hero, he's Mr. Benedict. You know what? That's the second time Golden Child been brought up to me in two days. I've never seen it. I used to love it, but I haven't watched it since I was a kid. So I feel like maybe if I put it on, I'll be like, oh, this is better. This is not as good as ever. Yeah, I just can't speak to it. I know it's an Eddie Murphy vehicle, but he's been like, he was in a million movies back in the day. I don't care for last action hero either. I enjoy that one. It's got issues. What do you think about that? Well, I have an episode on it, if you want to know what I think about that. Well, maybe a future debate as well, if you're really into it. Okay. And I love Arnold. That movie just didn't work. But anyway, okay, he gets viciously killed. This is the second of two good shots in this entire film. And that's, it's followed up though, with the previous shot being terrible, where we get our first rotoscope puppeteer, Xenomorph. He's like, and then it goes up to her, and he whispers sweet nothings into her ear. It looks really great. And then it opens the second mouth, just to give it a little tease. But then it's like, oh, shit, we got a baby on board. And then he backs away. Well, that's the, even people who hate this movie, idiots I call them, like, even they, even they, like everyone I know who's seen this movie, even they will be like, that scene was really good and really tense. It was like, that's a very tense scene. Cause then it brings the question like, why didn't it kill her? You're like, what the fuck, why isn't she dead? Yes, I will definitively say that five second shot is really good in this two hour movie. Five seconds of brilliance. But then, yeah, the answer why it doesn't kill her is super sad and super shitty. Because she then goes to a pod with worker B, number seven. He's got mud on his face, big disgrace. I don't know his name, but you're misremembering. She goes with Aaron, the stuck up dude, the company dude, cause the warden is now killed. Is that the glasses guy? No, he's hat guy. He's the warden's right hand man. He's the one who actually brings her to the ship and X-Razer. People have no personality in this film. Okay, yes, you are right. It's a different dude who cares. And that's the ultrasound. And he's like, it's a girl. And by the way, that is also after they try to capture the alien with like explosives to lead it into a room and pretty much everyone died. So it's having a rough day. I forgot there's two different sections of the movie where they basically do the exact same thing. Okay, let's try to lure it down different corridors. And then it doesn't work and then they take some time and she's like, I have an idea. Let's lure it down different corridors. Into a different thing. To do a different thing. Before it was to capture it because it couldn't get out of the room. And now they're like, all right, well that didn't work in either version of this movie. So let's lead it to the other room and pour a bunch of hot shit on it. Right, and a lot of people die. People die constantly in this movie. But a lot of people die but there's not a lot of cool deaths in the movie all the same. There's really only the head shot through the skull and a couple of guys kind of get eaten off camera. One dude gets picked up by his dick later which is really funny, it's super funny. It's a really weird shot. I don't know what they were thinking but he's just like, then we, let's get to the culmination of this, the crux of this film. After a few more boring sitting around scenes talking with chains dangling everywhere because everybody remembers the chain scene from the first movie. So Finn's just like, we're gonna put chains everywhere in this film. There's gonna be chains coming off of chains but you won't see them because they'll be in the shadows. They finally get this Xenomorph the runner into the lava area after what felt like a 45 minute sequence of GoPro footage going around the hallways. Well, okay. So the GoPro footage, I feel much like Jaws which this movie is a lot like. It's just as good as Jaws. Oh my gosh. They realized, I think at some point they realized that, you know, maybe our state of the art rod puppet effect might not look as good as we thought it would. And the man in the suit running would look weird. So they came up with that whole like, oh, let's do like the POV camera thing. I actually like a lot of that stuff. Ta-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Woo-hoo. It is weird that you don't see hands crawling. No. It's a little bizarre. Dude, that'd be cool. He like pounces on one. You can see the hands. It'd be like the scene from that terrible doom movie with Dwayne Johnson. But I will say, so they're leading into the lead works. You said it was a lava thing. Are you one of those guys who watched Terminator 2 and thought it ended in a lava factory? Were you one of those dumb kids? No, I just, I know that there's this, like there's this hot, whatever pool of fucking magma or something and he gets lowered down into a chain into it. It's molten steel. I knew kids who swore it was lava and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. Well, no, it's not lava, but yeah, whatever. It's like a smelting plant, something or the other, yeah. It's the same ending as this movie, so. Which was a coincidence and that's why they changed a part of the ending. Aim out a year later. Yeah, but remember, it was filming for a while. It had very trouble production. But yeah, the ending, if you wanna skip to that or if he had something else to say. I was just gonna explain kind of what goes down. The priest guy, he dies again after doing really nothing in this whole film. He didn't even do a good job of keeping his men at bay. They tried to rape her, you know? Even if he failed, he's like, my men are in check now. I got my eye on them and then four hours later they're already trying to like beat her up and take advantage of her. They actually cut out a scene. We're like, when they're all running through the corridors, like the plan gets like messed up and they're now in different set of corridors and Ripley's like, what the hell's going on? And that guy just goes, we're improvising. Ripley's like, oh my God, these idiots. So yeah, maybe he's not the best. Although, I mean, are you prepared to fight a space alien? I'm not. No, I'm not either. But maybe this guy shouldn't be all like, you know, peacocking up at Ripley right away. Like you don't know anything. You don't know anything. After she just killed a whole bunch of them, we're survived them. So we get to our Terminator two, moment number one of two, where they kill the Xenomorph by having to go down this little corridor area and she dumps what I think is literal shit on top of it. It's lead. But the garbage. It's lead. Liquid, liquid shit. It all looks the same. It's lead. You know it's lead. You're being facetious. You know it's lead. Cause it's lead. It's lead. Fine, it's lead. Whatever. It gets covered in lead. And then she dumps the water that none of the prisoners ever used to take a shower onto the Xenomorph, which they do this CG shot. I think it's one of the only CG shots in the film. It's like cracks its head. It looks really bad. And then boom, blows up. That's how they kill the Xenomorph. Just like they tried to kill the T1000 by having it freeze and shatter. But then it's T1, it's liquid metal. So it uses that. It was the Terminator. I like that's how they care. Cause they set it up earlier in the movie. Yeah, it was actually fine. They show like a metal bucket after that whole fire and the sprinkler hits it and the metal bucket expands. I'm like, oh, that's actually kind of clever. When you see it happen to the alien. Yeah, it was fine. I mean, it was clever if it was, you know, it was done in Terminator 2 a year before. So it was really clever when it happened in that movie. You can say unfortunate coincidence. I say plagiarism. No, no, no. It wasn't because they literally were like, oh shit, we need to add something to the ending cause it's too similar to that movie. It's so funny though, looking at the quality difference, right? I mean, you look at that liquid metal scene in T2, it's so freaking good. And then a year later, Alien 3 comes out and it's just not great. And so even from that aspect, they did it worse even if it was not intentional. We're not on effects yet. We're not on effects yet. I know, I know. We'll get there. Let's get through story. Really this wraps up with Ripley having to self-sacrifice because she doesn't trust human Bishop who shows up with the crew. He reveals that all the models were made after him because he's a, you know, egotistical asshole like most billionaires. And he's gonna like save the baby. Or no, he's gonna remove the baby, kill the baby and save her. Like he wants to dispose of this thing. She doesn't believe him. She's like, yeah, right. I know you guys, all right? I dealt with the mad about you guy in the last film. Yeah. So she wants to believe him at one point. She does like start to give in much like Jesus almost gave into temptation. Of course. Of course, this is just like the Bible. So she's like, she goes like, you really want to kill it? He's like, of course we want to kill it. By the way, he's being so evil. This part, she should have been like, you're obviously lying. Oh yeah. And they light him up too in such an evil way. He's got shadows everywhere, looks very ominous. What happened to Paul Reiser as a side note from Terminator 2? Did his character survive? It's been a long time since I saw him. Oh, Reiser was not in Terminator 2. I'm sorry, I meant aliens, aliens, alien 2. Oh no, he, he, oh actually yeah. So he dies, they show like an alien, like a taxim. There's actually, it's not in any cut of the movie. And for some reason it's not on any DVD. But there is evidence, there's an evidence of a scene where when she's in the hive, she finds him cocooned and she gives him a grenade to blow himself up. For whatever reason, they've never made that scene available. But now I think the regular cut, you're just supposed to assume that alien that corners and kills him. That's it. I'd like to think that Paul Reiser survived and that he's living his life happily. Well look, it's been a while since I played the game Aliens, Colonial Marines. We're apparently everything just fucking survived but Nuke just did nothing apparently. And there's even DLC where Hicks, who is alive, is running into the prison planet and he sees Ripley falling into the fire. He's like, I'm too late, I'm too late. Nuke's there too. She's got like the scar down the eye and she's like black without news where she like spins around the Xenomorphs and snaps to the net. I'm not shitting you, there's a whole DLC where like they wake up Hicks because he's the only military officer and he fights a guy and throws the guy in the pod. And that's how the beginning of Alien 3 starts. Beautiful, beautiful. It's so dumb, it's so stupid. You know what, you know what the beginning of this movie reminded me of where they did the quick shots of the characters dead right away. It reminded me of the episode of The Simpsons where Pucci, the dog, he's one of the characters on Itchy and Scratchy. And then to get rid of them, they're just like, all right, I'm going home, then Pucci died. My home planet needs me. Yeah, that's essentially what they did with Newton Hicks. Newton Hicks died on the way to the prison planet. I'm so upset they didn't do that to that girl, Amanda Lorian, who got fired from the show. Someone pointed out, they're like, wait, this is a universe where you could literally say she died on the way to her home planet and it will make sense. That was hilarious. They didn't do it. Who was up in that plane? And then they say the name of the person. I don't even remember her name. And he's like, oh, this is the way. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. All right, so the ending here, Ripley says, yeah, no, this isn't happening. Homie don't play that way. And she does the Jesus pose, die backwards. And as she's falling, the baby inside's like, oh, shit. I got to get on here. She comes out and she's like, uh-uh, not going to happen. This is such a, this looks so bad. It's really shuddery. It's that terrible slow motion from the 90s. Yeah, again, saving that for effects. That is one rough thing. However, this is one case where I like the theatrical cup more. I like the Chaspers are coming out. It feels more alien to like tie like alien together and like a nice bow. I like that. I don't mind how that they did that. I mind more how it looked. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Then she falls into the fire below and just disappears. It's yeah, God. Yeah, but no, I like that whole scene. Cause again, she's now had two daughters who died and like the last daughter that she has to kill is her mortal enemy. I kind of like that whole sequence there. And even in the assembly cut, she just falls back and it looks even worse than the theatrical cut. Some people like that better. They think the theatrical cutting is a little too schlocky with it coming out, but I enjoy it. Okay, so that's really it. Then it says, you know, end transmission and that's the end of the movie. It's such a self-sacrifices. Everybody's dead basically. And that's the happy ending. Not everyone, evil bishop and that last prisoner are alive. They are, they are. Every time I watched this movie, I smiled. I'm like, oh good. I'm glad Moore's made it. I like to think that Bishop and Paul Reiser are together on an island shooting off their own personal private giant dick ships to see who's gets to whatever planet first. But you can at least say this felt like a definitive ending until, yeah, it was a definitive. Nothing's definitive. Until resurrection happened. Nothing is definitive. Bishop's back in alien or an ABP. So is that a prequel? Yeah, it's a prequel. So it's like his, he's Wayland and his company makes robotics. And for some reason they're interested in the pyramid. It makes no sense. How old is Wayland, by the way, that he did it all? No, okay. So the one in the alien three in like the expanded universe and games, he's supposed to be Michael Wayland. He's like a descendant of whoever made the Wayland. That looks exactly the same. Yeah, it's very convenient. It makes more sense in alien three, but when you factor in ABP and then Prometheus, you're like none of this makes sense. None of it, none of it adds up at all, but that's that's Hollywood, truly, you know, like movie making run, run. It took eight or nine Fast and the Furious movies before Dom realized he had a brother, so. So listen, the last note on the story. Yeah. Even though you watched the inferior version of the film. The one that was released to everyone, yes. I think either way, I kind of like the whole premise and everything. I think that's where me and you differ. I like the idea that everyone is dead Ripley has left her own devices. She's now in a more hostile environment with an alien that she's not familiar with. She's more used to fighting the human aliens with guns. And now she's got this alien that she's not familiar with with no weapons. I think it up the stakes a lot, even with just one alien. No, I think it's really, really cool. Sure, a movie that is being rewritten on the fly is not going to be perfect. They could have tightened up some of the characters. But overall, I think it leads to a very satisfying ending and a nice ending to the whole trilogy and franchise. And then they kept going. We have different definitions of the word satisfying. Watching all of the survivors die in like grim or depressing fashion is the complete opposite for me. But I hear you, you have your opinion, that's fine. Let's go to the effects round and we're gonna get this really amazing bumper here. It's gonna be super long. I can't wait. Are you ready? Are you guys ready for the effects bumper? Okay. Okay, there we go. Effects. We have started. Thank you, sir. We don't have to spend a lot of time on this because we've kind of touched upon the effects here and there, but it is the ugliest of the three movies, both visually and from pretty much every angle you take that. I think it's supposed to look ugly. It's supposed to look like this dirty place. You don't want to be in. I like, I love the visuals. They had two cinematographers for this. They started with the guy who had worked with Ridley Scott on like a Blade Runner and stuff. Unfortunately, he had Parkinson's and they're like, well buddy, you probably, you had a lot to take care of. So they replaced him. So that's why there are some like, there's a few like there are some shots early on that don't match the rest of the visual style of the film. There are better shots here and there. I would say Tony as a fun fact. You say it's intentionally supposed to look ugly. I don't disagree with you. But what's wild about this is we have the master behind the camera of making ugly things look beautiful. David Fincher has done movies on some of the ugliest, griniest places and they look freaking amazing. Seven, the game and freaking fight club. They're all like ugly warehouses, these dingy back alleys. It was the first time. Well, yeah, I'm not discrediting the way that it starts somewhere. I'm just discrediting this movie's look because the color palette, the just the way it's shot is even kind of hokey at times. I don't know. I will say there are some effects wise. There are some really good effects that are more subtle. I actually love all the miniatures when they show like a wide shot of like that furnace lighting up is really cool. You actually get to see more in the assembly cut. They have like, they do this beautiful matte shot where there's like all these big cranes around the ocean, around the facility. Lot of great practical effects. The shot of the escape pod going into the atmosphere. Now listen, so that was like a painting, a matte painting and then they shot the thing. So it glowing orange, that was like special paint that they had that a light, they had a light that would make that paint glow orange. That wasn't even like an optical effect. That was a great shot. I was gonna bring that up. I really liked that shot. And when I watched this movie again, when that happened pretty early on, I thought, you know what? Maybe this movie's not gonna be as bad as I remembered it, like visually speaking, but it's all kind of forward stacked, I feel like. And the second half, it just gets completely off the rails. So, and then Studio ADI, they actually just disbanded it this year. They've separated, but they've been doing, since Alien, they've worked on Aliens, but since Alien 3, they've kind of been doing all the alien effects for all the movies going forward. The alien himself looks great in this. It still has some of the, not the rod puppet, but the actual suit, it still has some of the biomechanical feel that I think the later movies got rid of. The face can do so more. That's also why I like they went down to one alien, because the previous film, they're like, all right, we have to have 12 aliens. They all can't really look really good, just because we have to make so many of them on budget. But this one, the Aliens face is way more articulate than it ever has been. It actually feels like it's alive. It's a great suit. I don't think you can disagree with that. I agree that it looks good, but it's really not shown much. I can only think of three or four scenes where you really get a good close-up look of the thing. Most of the times it's from the distance or it's kind of in the shadows. Really just the shot where it goes up to Ripley I can think of and then the blood covered shot, that's like, that's it. I mean, there's really not much there. And I think a Cameron's film in the previous movie and all those beautiful designs and that amazing queen alien. Yeah. You're coming from the angle that this movie had to be this way because of the budget and stuff, which fair, but it shouldn't have been this way to begin with. That's the point I'm coming from. We're going from an epic aliens with James Cameron that this is one of the biggest properties hitting right now for Fox. And then for them to just half, I don't even want to say half-assed, but my God, what were they thinking in this movie? Yeah, it was there was so much control. Yeah, there was a lot of mismanaging and pretty much everyone who worked on this movie will agree that they all kind of fumbled it. Just like one executive of Fox is like, we want an alien, put a teaser out saying it's coming out in 1992. It's like, well, we don't have a script, we don't have a director, we don't have security weavers coming out, but here's a teaser that just says it's going to happen on earth, which doesn't fucking happen. It reminds me of the scientist in Austin Powers. We didn't anticipate feline complications. But now I like some of the dead body. Like Bishop looks great, the mangled up Bishop. That looks really good, but him matching up with the voice acting is really good. Apparently the ripped up newt was like really graphic and like a lot, there was way more like scenes that didn't make it into any edit of the film just I'm pretty sure the executives were like, you got to tone that shit down. Yeah, we already got like the bloody knives going into the, yeah, we didn't need to do more of that. When it comes to the sets, even if you don't like the design, the execution I think is good. I think the practical effects with the suit and everything look great. A lot of the gore looks really good. The whole mashed in, I don't think they actually, they don't show it. And the assembly cut, I think they show like, Hicks is like whole jaws ripped off and shit. I think they do show a shot of his jaw ripped off. There are some really quick, there are some really quick shots and the models did look good, but they kind of intentionally keep it hidden enough probably so they didn't have to pay the actors for their likeness. Which they did for the assembly, for no, the theatrical cut, that little graphic of Hicks, he got paid more for that than he did all of Aliens. And then for the assembly cut, I'm pretty sure they were like, don't include a shot of him, we'll have to pay him more. I just, I don't, I don't, yeah. Whatever. It's just wild to me. Now here's where everyone, even people like me who love this movie will agree. Some of the optical effects are really bad, including the rod puppet alien. Rod puppet aliens really rough, really rough. If they had waited like a year or two after Jurassic Park, it would have been done very different. But at the time, they didn't know that CGI was gonna blow up. They couldn't afford to make miniature sets for the miniature alien. So they're like, we're gonna do it all on a blue screen. And like the idea makes sense instead of doing stop motion because you don't want it to be jerky. But yeah, it didn't work. And everyone who works on the effects of this movie will a hundred percent agree that it did not work. These movies are always fascinating to me because you always look at them and think they were clearly kind of out in front of their skis as far as what they could actually create. You know, you have these wild ideas on script, right? Okay, the aliens could be climbing on the walls and he's gonna be picking dudes up. He's gonna have a second mouth. And then the CG department or the effects guys, the prop guys are like, how the hell are we gonna do any of this? But then you think, okay, what if these scripts were made and came out today? They would half-ass it all and it would all be CG and it wouldn't have the same charm or the same look and feel. So it's kind of a double-edged sword. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I would like one day. And actually there are people who have actually added CGI models like on YouTube. So they did it for like Terminator but they have done it for Alien 3. If Dave Aventure ever gave his blessing, it would be cool to see a version of this with an actual CG alien. But yeah, you're right, the rod puppet looks really, really bad. Yeah, we don't have to harp on it much more. I just overall going from, you know, the first movie, I'm trying to think the color pattern, it kind of had the blues and then it carried over to the second one a lot more. Cameron went all in on kind of that blue-ish, you know, dark look. And then for this one to have almost transitioned, I feel like whether that's intentional or more of what you're saying, the different directors remains to be known to me. But the first, I'd say 20 to 30 minutes does have some of that blue look to it still, but then it just goes all in on orange and brown. You're like, we're orange this time, we're die-harding this thing. We're going Mcteeran. Maybe that's why I like it, I didn't even think about it. I love die-hard, man, that's probably my favorite. Die-hard's great. Have they ever given any one of our classic heroes a decent send-off and film, like Terminator 2? Yeah. Awesome, but then he's back for four or five more. Yeah, John McClane. John McClane had a great ending in three and then he's back in four and then five, he's ruined. I can't even think of a single year. Five is terrible and I'll never watch it again. But that's more of just like, that was just kind of a shitty adventure for John McClane. I don't think anything really got ruined about him. I mean, he clearly has cancer for being so close to all that radiation. Oh my God. I just mean though, I mean, has any one of these big icon characters had a decent ending to a film? I guess Logan, but now he's back again for Deadpool 3. Mad Max, I guess. Well, now they brought it back for four or four was good, but Mad Max did. Fury Road, yeah, but the new one's coming out too. Is Mad Max gonna be in this one, Fury Osa? I have no idea. I'm trying to think, did Rambo, I didn't see the last Rambo. Did he have a good ending? Oh God, that would be sucks. No, it was terrible. Never mind, never mind. Terrible. You know what? I'd say Rocky is probably as close as we're gonna get to a decent send-off in Creed 2. But even then it's not even really a full, whatever. It's more of a torch pass. I guess that's as good as we can hope. A torch pass for our guy before, hopefully they don't bring Stallone out for one last ride when he's in his 80s. Well, how did you feel about all the characters from Jurassic Park and Dominion getting happy endings? That would be so bad though. Ellie and Alan finally got together. I didn't care about them getting together. It's so bad. Well, there's a lot of people who shit on Jurassic Park 3 who really want them to get together. Oh my God, yeah, Jurassic Park 3. That's an hilarious movie. That whole franchise is shit-show too. Okay, those are the thoughts on Alien 3, Alien Cubed as it's sometimes referred to because the three is up in the corner for some reason. I don't understand the logic of that at all. Maybe it's just a style thing, Tony. Do they have a reason? You know, I haven't, if there is a reason, I don't recall. I just remember the people on the behind the scenes joking and calling it Alien Cube themselves. Alien Cubed, that's perfect. Is this our final thought segment? This is the final thought segment. So I'll let you have the last word. I'll just, I'm just gonna say a really quick thing. X-Men 3. Oh, you fucker! I was just about to do that same joke. Blade Trinity. Fuck, I hate you so much. Terminator 3, Alien 3. What do they have in common? They're all fucking terrible. They all went from these amazing crescendo films and completely dropped the ball and were left with this miserable, terrible, final outing for Sigourney until they have to dust her ass off and resurrect her literally for another film to just give her some sort of badass send-off. Did they fail again? Of course, because these are ruined ever since 3. And that's all I have to say. I think we all know it. The poll is still open. I implore you to make the right call here. I'm like, Tony, have this. He's a hack. It's in the name of his channel, which you should absolutely subscribe to, act the movies. I was gonna make a little photo for you, Tony, but I didn't have time for that either. But I was gonna have like a little channel thing and whatever. I said my piece, please do your part and vote. Tony, the floor is yours. I hate you so much. I literally, you know, Adam, I've been planning it all fucking day. No, we should have communicated beforehand. I literally was gonna go X-Men 3. I was gonna name three sequels and then I was gonna be like, we can all agree they are the best of each franchise. And you totally took the wind out of my scales. Yeah, that's what we do. Tony, do you think this is my first rodeo? I've done hundreds of episodes of movie feuds. Okay, so, Alien 3. If you want, Alien 3 is for smart, sophisticated, artsy, better, good-looking people like myself. I have to mute my mic. I have to mute my mic. Okay, good-looking people like myself. People, you know, they want safe, they want just like fast food entertainment. That's what you, that's what people like Adam want. They're like, oh, I think the sequel should have an even bigger queen. I should have 10 queens and a billion aliens. And that's how movies get worse and worse and worse. I mean, look at the fast franchise. It's like, oh, wow, there were a couple cool car races. Now they're like, oh, the cars are in space and swinging on vines. It just gets worse. Alien 3 is smart. It took risks much like the last Jedi, which I know we all love on this channel. And it tried something different. It circled that. I don't like that too over Shadowed 1 and 3 paid more of a tribute to one. So yes, sure, if you've watched the theatrical cut, you're not seeing the true version of the movie. I can understand your frustrations. But when you see the assembly cut, you see a real work of art from a director who, I don't know, maybe never made anything good again. I mean, Fight Club's okay. But really this was his masterpiece as much as he doesn't want to admit it. Yes, Alien 3 is for smart, intelligent, attractive people with big brains, not people like Adam, who are more stupider than me. Yeah, you'll notice that only one of us has insulted the other on this thing. So maybe you vote for the one that's a little bit more. I didn't realize my laptop was covering up my Alien 3 shirt. Oh, that's fine. Yeah, I just want to show that. That's fine. You shouldn't want to share that with anyone. The poll is at 50, 50 right now. Oh, you got me kidding, man. 50%. This is disgusting that it's come to this even. I can only hope that at some point people will grow a set of a brain. If you can, can you grow a set of brains? Because that's what we need. We need a companion brain here. Okay, the poll is open in the meantime. We are going to do super chats. So if you gave super chats, which you should be supporting the channel, it's awesome. Throw a super chat at me, I would appreciate it. Again, Sound of Freedom is getting 100% of these super chats is what I'm telling the Sound of Freedom family. We're paying it forward here. And Sound of Freedom is what I've named my checking account for the day. I just want to make that crystal clear. Okay. You spelled it differently. Yeah, yes, I did. Yeah. Bubba with the 499 superchats says, Hey, we got Mike and Cindy watching. So watch your language. Sorry, mom. Sorry, dad. That's my mom and dad. So they're watching and I did swear a few times. I apologize. Rob, hey. Wait, wait, wait, Adam, Adam, Adam, for the comments, you can click on them and bring them up on screen. Oh, I meant to do that. I'm sorry. Yeah, okay, it's about sure. Hey, it's the first episode of Movie Feuds. We're trying to, we're trying to get, I got stuff going on everywhere. There's a lot of banners, there's a lot of tickers. Okay, Rob, Kay, with a beautiful, yep, we got a $2 super chat. Always remember guys, more drugs, less slugs. That is a reference to my faculty review. Yeah, I did know that, yep. Yeah, I got a spam call about like, donating to the police to get rid of drugs. And I'm like, oh, I just watched this movie where drugs was the key to beating the aliens. We got a $5 beautiful super chat from King Cold. You guys work well together. Well, that's nice. Wait, wait, but we're at each other's throats. We're supposed to be fighting right now. How, well, we're doing a bad job of being enemies, I guess. Uh-oh, it looks like we got some silly money coming in over here. Oh, Looney Tunes money? Looney Tunes money, A.J. Whizzle, Tony's medigig review of the theatrical cut of Alien 3 with Prisoner Mike was the day I truly came to appreciate his comedy genius. I mean, that was one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Tony's got some good humor and he's got some bad taste in movies. Make it man, vote with your conscience. All right, Master Sergeant, who's an awesome supporter of this channel gives a beautiful, powerful, bold, $10 super chat. Michael Bean and Carrie Hen were awesome in Alien 3. I did like when they died right away. That was a beautiful performance. Beautiful performances. They got paid handsomely for my fault. I just wasn't that invested in them. Like they served a purpose for Ripley and after that movie, I don't care what happens to these characters afterwards. There's so many things. Yeah, I agree. They didn't need to be in the movie, but there are so many ways they could have sunset them without you. They went to their home planet. Maybe only Ripley's pod eject is something like that. Tony, you're still stuck on the fact that the script made them. There's no fucking face hugger on this ship in different versions, okay? They went home. They went away. And then years later, maybe Ripley goes on another mission and- Well- Rhy. You should- This would be crazy. You want to Ryan Johnson this thing? Okay. There's no Xenomorphs in Alien 3. It's a different alien species altogether. Okay, well, actually that's kind of close. Are you aware of the William Gibson version? No, I'm not aware of any versions. Okay, okay. So William Gibson, he wrote a version that where Ripley was kind of in a coma the whole time and Newt eventually gets sent away at a space station and Hicks is kind of the main character. They've since turned that into a comic book and an audio play on Audible. So if you want to see a version of that, you can. I don't, but that sounds amazing. That sounds absolutely stunning. Jan Rose, another awesome supporter of the channel, $5 says, enjoy the dynamic you two have. Are you guys going to do another of these of different movies? Well, we already kind of teased maybe a last action hero, but I'm sure Tony's been on the channel several times in the past. He did a couple of movie feuds. I believe one of them was The Devil's Advocate versus The End of Days. I have no idea why that was an episode we did. Because I was doing them on my channel and I'm like, hey, I'll promote your videos when I do that. Tony's like, Adam's channel's currently dying in hemorrhaging subscribers. This was a couple of years back. How can I put the final nail in this guy's comment? I know. Let's do these two random movies from the 90s and that'll get them, that'll get them more. You're right. That was a bad idea. Thankfully, we also did Volcano versus Dante's Peak. We did Volcano versus Dante's Peak and do you remember the third one? There were three of them. Oh my God, I'm blanking on the third one. Actually, you know what? I don't know if you were on it, but I was definitely on your show for it. We might have done a collab both ways on that one. Were you on the old versus new... Oh God, I'm blanking on the title, the Olympus Fighting Dude with Medusa. Oh no, we did a video about how many Titans were in the Clash of the Titans movies. Clash of the Titans, okay. That wasn't a movie feud, but the joke was that there's only one Titan in the sequels of the remake. I actually did a movie feud though on that. I did a Clash of the Titans versus the remake of it. I thought maybe you were in that, but I guess you weren't. No, no, we did that other video. That was fun. Nevermind, yeah, that was fun. All right, is this it really? After all the blood, sweat, and tears I pushed out, we only got six Super Chats tonight. Guys, I want 10 more Super Chats right now. Tony, I thought you brought some people over here. This is just sad. I did my best. Our audience is truly the same now at this point. We have nothing to offer each other as far as new subscribers. The ones we have are like, yeah, I know who he is. Oh, you didn't subscribe? Yeah, I know who he is. I'm good. All right, I got it. Yeah, whatever I see, where your subscribers came from, you're never on there. No, no. It's, ironically, it's channels I don't really interact with. Yeah, I actually lose subscribers when I go on your channel. They're like, oh, you're associated with heck of a movie. One of them is this wrestling legend called Jim Cornett who blocked me on Twitter because I called him a cuck three years ago. But for some reason, we share an audience and they subscribe to me. Same audience, yeah. Yeah, it's a perfect match. Oh my gosh. Okay, well, you know what, Tony? I guess it's a quiet Friday night. I understand people are at Barbenheimer, which I should probably segue with. I have a review. I have two reviews out today because I'm working my ass off. I got a Barbie review out. I have a Oppenheimer review out. One of them I really liked, another one I kind of liked, but it dropped the ball and I became disappointed with it. You can figure out which one it is probably. You can probably figure that out. Well, I will also be on T-Money, as I'm calling Tony right now, I'm gonna be on his channel in what, a week? Next Friday? No, this Thursday? This coming Thursday, I think. This Thursday, okay, yes, yes. Beautiful. I still gotta finish watching all the movies. I made a more streaming stuff this time to make it easier, so. It would be nice if you could just completely change your schedule for me and push your stream time later, because Thursday nights are when I see movies. I, you had all this time to tell me that. I didn't know it was a problem till just now. I didn't think you would actually change it for little old me, so I wasn't being serious. I could, I could. Let me see what we have. So what comes out this week is The Baker, which I've never heard of. That's with Ron Perlman, I think. Talk to me. Oh, that's the horror one. That actually looked kind of good. That's an 824, 824 movie. And then another horror movie that I know Tony's already pre-bought his tickets for, that's The Haunted Mansion, The Disney Haunted Mansion, which is different than Disney's Haunted Mansion that came out with Eddie Murphy and was a horrible, horrible film. Is this related to the Muppets Haunted Mansion that came out? This is not related to The Muppets Haunted Mansion. It is a two-hour film because, fuck you, everything is brown, two-hour film, Owen Wilson's in it. Jared Leto's in this. He's the hat box ghost. Tiffany Hadish, is that how you say it? Haddish? Yeah. And Danny Divi, I'm from Minnesota, so everything's an A, you know, whatever. Wait, Seinfeld, oh, Stanfield. I thought that said Jerry Seinfeld at first, I was all excited. Jerry Seinfeld, what's the deal with these Haunted Mansions? I think that comes out either like the day of or the day after our live episode, so I'm not including that in the thing. No, it comes out Thursday night. Yeah, that's when we do the show Thursday night. Well, I go to the movie before the show. Oh my God. That's not my fault that you don't. Do you want me to make it eight o'clock or nine? Would that be easier? If I do a double feature, there is a three o'clock standard time for Haunted Mansion. That puts me at five 20s because there's always 20 minutes of trailers. I love how we're doing a production meeting right now. Do a production meeting right now because I'm hoping that people bring in some super chats, but no one is. No, somebody did. They want us to do a rap battle, but I'm not gonna. It's an order wolf. Yo, talk to me comes out this Thursday. Hold my P because I got two back to back. I got Haunted Mansion picking up the back. All right, show us that figure on the slack. That was terrible. Okay, we got. Oh, this won't work at all. Okay, I got it like alien. Wait, I'm not going to do my rap. Yo, you like alien three, then you fucks with me. I'm the main G in this movie. Watch your fly by as the pendulum swings. Just start ripping off songs from the movie. Mom's spaghetti. Mom's spaghetti. Mom's spaghetti. Yo, yo. Doc Savage for $2. When are you guys gonna do tiptoes with Peter Dinklage? That's the movie? Oh, dude, that's the most offensive little person movie ever. And Peter Dinklage is in it. The Gary old. So it's Matthew McConaughey. He's a normal size guy with Kate Beckinsale. And then he basically tells her that his entire family is little people. And his brother is Gary Oldman, who plays a little person. Oh my God. And then there's weird sex stuff with the little people. It's a movie that no one involved wanted to get released. And then it did. So check that out. That's a fun one. Oh my God, that sounds terrible. Yep. Okay. Talk to Me is an hour and 35. That is amazing. That is the best thing I've ever heard in my life. Talk to Me is at 410, 510. And then the haunted mansion is at 610, 710, 810. That won't work. Well, I'm just gonna have to do Talk to Me and I'll see haunted mansion the next day. So we'll make it work, Tony. You don't have to change your stream time. In the future, I will adjust it just for you. I would think so. Although I do see in your chat once in a while, people are like, get Adam off of your show. He's trash. Ah, fuck them. Yeah, okay. You're like one of the last movie channels. I actually watched that piece of my own. It was like you, Joey C, mid-salad. I'm like, yeah, that's it. That's all I need. I mean, that's it. I think I watch, hack the movies once in a while. And that's, but I don't even watch Red Letter Media anymore. And those guys are hilarious. I just don't have time. There's time. And also like, I can't watch the review of new things until I've reviewed it. Well, and your show's good because it's like a podcast. I don't have to actually watch. I can be doing the dishes or, you know, doing whatever yelling at my children. Oh, actually plug for you. I actually like the podcast format you're doing. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I do that every Monday. Every Monday is a podcast. I mean, that's when my show airs, so fuck you. But yeah, wait, what time does your show air on Monday? Three. Okay. Well, my podcast goes up at 9 a.m., but then I do like a live watch at like 11, but I could do a thing. Can you do the thing on YouTube where you push people to another channel? Is that a thing? I think that might be a thing. I don't know. Because I could do that. I was joking, by the way. I know, but I'm trying to have some synergy here. Do a thing where they watch along and then I'm like, hey, go over to Tony's, you know, channel and watch his step. King Cole for $3. He came in at the last second. I don't know if I, did I put docs up on the screen? I don't think I did. Well, you did now. Well, I'm putting it up there so that he gets a little representation. I like his eye patch. Is he a muppet? I don't know what that is. Is that in the muppet? Is that like a wee, a wee character? Yeah, yeah, whatever those guys are called. I don't know if I put pizza werewolf up there either. And that's a great photo. I love that. She has a really good photo. The beautiful, beautifully done. Okay, here we go. King Cole, have Adam on for a stellar Godzilla review. I have been on one of them. Yes, Godzilla versus Megalon, everyone's favorite with the robot Jet Chagallar. That was a very fun episode to do and a very fun movie to watch. That movie was a train wreck. So yeah, we're planning to bring the podcast back. We've done a couple bonus videos so far to just breathe some life into the channel. Sure. But yeah, we are gonna start with the Heisei series. So starting from like the 80s reboot all the way to 2000, we will be doing that. And then we'll go- I don't know what any of that is, but it sounds amazing. The Godzilla timelines are broken up into different series. So yes, we will be doing that. So get ready for those. That's gonna be a live format. We're changing the show to be a live format. So it's gonna be a lot of fun, Adam. Wow, I'm excited for that. I love these lives. I get scared out of my mind when I start them, but then after 10, 15 minutes, it all starts to kind of come together. Yeah. Okay, we did get, we are getting a couple at the end, which is really nice. Randa's 626 with the $2. Just tell Tony to sing the Willy Wonka song. Well, come with me or the robot one. Take a look and then- I can, hold on, I'm looking up the robot song. Get it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. Alien 3. I'm excited. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the robot. I'm gonna do the robot. Yeah, please do. Oh, where is it? Round the world. And when you're done, Tony, I have a special announcement to end things. Okay, okay. Round the world and home again, that's the sailors way, faster, faster, faster, faster. There's no earthly way of knowing which direction we are going. There's no knowing where we're rowing or which way the river's flowing. Is it raining? Is it snowing? It's a hurricane a-blowing. Not a speck of light is showing. So the danger must be growing. Are the fires of Hella glowing? Is the grizzly reaper mowing? Yes, the danger must be growing. For the rowers, keep on rowing. And they're certainly not showing any signs that they are slowing. There you go. Wow. Yeah, that's when they're going through the psychedelic tunnel. Adam, if you want to know more about that, Monday's episode of my show is the original Willy Wonka. Willy Wonka. And I, no, not that one. Not that one. Willy Wonka, Willy Wonka. I saw an interview with Jean. Jean Wilder. Very old Jean Wilder. And he just looked depressed as all shit when they brought up the Tim Burton movie. He's just straight up, I do not like Tim Burton films. I do not like them in a can. I do not like them with a ham. He was very sad about it. On a positive final note, Tony, you're going to love this. I can officially say with the utmost confidence and aplomb that Alien 3 is bad. Has won with 52% of the votes tallied. It is a bad movie and the people have spoken. You're all, you know what, in another 30 years, people will finally come around in that movie. They'll finally come around on that movie. You guys insult me in front of my Alien 3 wall. The picture of my niece that I photoshopped into Alien 3. You've felt me in front of all of this. There's more shit down there. This man was in the dark night RISES. Again, a part three that was better than the previous two, much like Alien 3. Another part three. I know good part threes, Adam. Well, you don't know how to win a feud because you lost. You're done, Tony. Get off my channel and never return. Adam, I'll have my day in the sun. Remember when we first met, you beat me in a debate, but I ended up being right because the movie ended up sucking. So don't celebrate. Don't celebrate too soon, Adam. That's right. I'm a master debater. I'm sure next year people will finally all love Alien 3. That's right. Next year is the year. Next year is the year. There was an Alien TV show in the work. So that very well could push people to look back and say, you know what, we didn't have it so bad. Oh, no, Adam. I don't care about any other Alien stuff coming up. Honestly, if Disney came out, and I said this many times, if Disney came out and said, hey, for fans of the Alien franchise, we want you all to know that we are not making any more alien things. That would be the happiest fucking day in my life. Because I really don't want to see my favorite franchise get ruined even further. It's like, just give up. You're not, and now they're doing more, and I don't care. Is it good? Who knows? I'm not getting excited. I've been let down too many times. I hear you. I hear you. Tony, thank you very much. This is always a pleasure. I will see you on Thursday. Everybody, subscribe to Hack the Movies. Last word, Tony. Pimp your shit again, and we can be done with this. Subscribe to Hack the Movies. We talk about movies doing old. And I have a review for the theatrical cut of Alien 3, the assembly cut of Alien 3. On Patreon, the unreleased William Gibson cut. And I even did a video on the workprint cut that I found of it. So I have a lot of Alien 3 on my channel. Alien 3. That's too much. Check that out. Not enough. I want more. All right, guys, that's the show. Thank you very much for the superchats and the comments. The polls, I think, stay open. I don't know. I have no idea if you can vote after the stream is stopped. Maybe not. But as of now, Alien 3 sucks. It lost. And people have spoken. Thank you once more, and we will see you next time. Take care.