 The spring garland and you've been sitting there patiently garland about three months ago at the very beginning of the pandemic you put out a video that I happened to watch which said that you can anticipate people breaking into food shops to feed themselves and that they weren't going to just sit around and take this and in fact a lot of the looting if you can call that was of supermarkets listen that first couple of nights in Minneapolis so garland tell us what you're seeing right now and why you were right about that. Well, you know what I saw at the beginning and I wish I could say it was empirical data or you know some kind of a equation but it was intuitive. I looked at the circumstance and I realized they're telling people and I recall beforehand 60% of Americans had less than $500 for an emergency within one week after the pandemic after the lockdown. Congress came together to act on behalf of the richest people in the world and ensure that they weren't hurting that they weren't required to have any savings whatsoever they were taking care of the other American people got much of nothing. And I recognize the terms that I used I said people are out of work before you know it at some point they'll be out of work out of food and out of time. When I look at this you know you can certainly as it's been spoken here. I think that the George Floyd injustice was a spark and that we had a tinderbox the dynamics were ready for this. So when I look at this crowd, you know we hear a lot of discussion of race, I see a generation, you know a crowd a generation I see people say a large portion of them under 35 under 30 in their 20s. I see a generation who is furious. And when we look on the street we see anger and let's not forget you know I was a law enforcement officer for many years I retired as a law enforcement so I guess to some perspective I can see things through the eyes of a law enforcement officer. I was a working class person. So I keep thinking to myself also you know what somewhere off the coast of the Canary Islands. There's a 500 foot yacht and there's somebody watching working class police officers and you know working poor people that at one time may have been working class but now they're the poor and the working poor beat the living daylights out of each other tear up their own neighborhoods and wipe each other out and what they figured out is this their money is all in the stock market the stock market isn't real it's totally unrelated to the bricks and mortar stores. It's simply a shell game that they play. So all they had to do is ensure that the government put enough money into the stock market to ensure that their investment stayed the same and it doesn't matter what happens on the ground. So they're sitting on their yachts they're watching the people you know the Americans beat themselves to death and they're like well we haven't got our space station and our moon base quite ready yet for the next pandemic so we can go there. But by the time they finish beating each other senseless we should be able to make a move for a while and maybe watch this thing a little further I'm being facetious in a way but in a way maybe not. I think what I saw was to me a simple dynamic you know I said things like this. People are not going to sit in the house and watch their children hungry. We see these long lines so I think a lot of this is about desperation and I also say this. This is the first wave. If I was right I don't know if I was right maybe I was lucky. We won't call that good luck bad luck but maybe it was possible that it was a coincidence that I predicted this and it happened. If I was anywhere near the truth I would have to add this the second wave has to be July and August. Because right now there's there are reopening going on and people are thinking okay you know I'm optimistic they're reopening I'll go back to that job I had as a bartender. If you're you know if you're a Blinio as a waitress as a the many things that they could do to make a dollar or some of them actually had jobs you know they gave them health care that's the other thing 42 million people lost their jobs and their health care. They can't afford to get sick they can't afford to get injured but that being the case there will be some expectation a that they'll come back to a job. D that the job they come back to will be there and will allow them to make enough money to you know feed their family pay their bills etc. Well neither of those are will be true for many many of them and then they will have some kind of an expectation that the government will step in and make them economically whole. Let me interrupt you to ask you about question we're a police officer. Something about the mentality of the cops and the behavior we've been seeing to me they know this is an anti police protest at least it began that way they take it personally don't they. I mean I have seen unbelievable we've all seen these unbelievable scenes of pepper spraying and tear gassing people up against the wall and pushing people to the ground and all the other violence. What is the mentality of the average police officer right now in the middle of ZC. This is a personal attack on him and a chance for him to get back at society. No actually I'd say something different differently and this is a sad state of affairs. And that is it's not that these police officers suddenly doing something different to a lot of these police officers. This is routine. So a lot of police officers if they come on to the scene they arrest anyone they want to they beat up anyone they want to. What we're seeing now is for poor people for poor black people to poor black community. This is a normal day of policing for them. Now we look at it and we see them push down you know a white millennial that's a small girl or someone who we're not accustomed to seeing get abused or we see them grab a couple college students and drag them out of the car and we're outraged. But you know I've done a lot of work in Baltimore works for the ACLU involved I mean specifically work for the ACLU in Baltimore during the Department of Justice investigation. And what we found was what we see as outrageous was normal practice. I think Baltimore had arrested when we checked one of our suits of the ACLU they had upwards of 60,000 people that they would arrest. They would just say shut up and do what I tell you or I'll arrest you and if the person said anything they bang them up with sticks for a bit they drag them in the person hadn't committed any crime. They would hold them overnight and simply release them but the person would get beaten and taken in that night and oftentimes not arrested they just get a beating. So to talk about that and normal for a lot of people. Garland I just wanted to ask you very quickly about your post year social media and it's also something that you've mentioned just now but basically connecting the 42 million unemployed. Thanks to COVID especially and the title wave of evictions following that and the billionaire corporate bailouts plus this police violence you know resulting the social unrest. Can you speak more about the connection between COVID-19 and the current wave of rebellions that we're seeing and also as you say can you expand on the future that you see whether this is going to just intensify or do you think that it will in any way sort of die down as we go into the month. A perfect example is Germany in Germany unemployment went from 5% to 6% because in Europe the governments have made the people whom they locked down economically whole and so they didn't create such an air of desperation. James Baldwin said the worst thing and I'm paraphrasing that a society can create is a person who has nothing to lose and that's what we created in fact we created a generation of people who have nothing to lose. We had people who looked at their future and did not see a future they had an expectation that they would live better than their parents and they realized they had a house payment and no house. So they had no future and then within eight weeks they had no present and at that point we had an entire generation who has nothing to lose and one need only watch one night of the protest and you will recognize the age. There are some people of various ages but mostly this is a young generation who is furious that we see anger and fury. As far as the future in Los Angeles County alone and this number you know I just feel like I've been I keep reading it wrong over 350,000 evictions are predicted by the end of the summer in Los Angeles County alone. Over 50% of the people in the county lost their jobs during the pandemic in America 40% of the people who make $40,000 or less lost their jobs in March in July. Their money runs out their unemployment runs out and many people didn't get the 1200 or haven't gotten it yet or because of the antiquated unemployment system websites haven't gotten it yet. The level of desperation is bad but come July or August when they expect they'll be able to go back to work and make a living and or the government will take action to ensure that they're not evicted. I predict a second wave now there may be another spark but it but when you have this kind of hot tender it doesn't take much of a spark it won't take much in fact it could be something to do with another killing it could be anything. But I predict when people are frightened and furious and they've already kind of learned they've already kind of gotten an experience of going into the street of releasing their anger. I suspect that July, August and going into the the final run up to the election that we're going to see a significant second wave of social unrest. And you know I like the other people here it's not that I don't think that our government will or won't act in a manner that would address their issues. It's that I don't think the way that our government currently operates that it that it's not what it produces.