 All right, it's 6 0 1 and I think we can see everyone we know that Brenda is actually Tony and we have one person joining just as a phone number which is 802 234 9670 would you like to identify yourself so we know who was all in the meeting. Sure, this is Kirk white. Kirk white. All right. Great. Thank you. And we got no more. So we'll, it's 6 0 1 and I will read our Beginning little diet tried that as chair of the Rochester select for it. I find that due to the state of emergency declared by Governor Scott as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant To addendum 6 to executive order 01 dash 20 and act 92 this public body is authorized to meet electronically. Thank you. In accordance with act 92. There is no physical location to observe and listen contemporaneously to this meeting. However, in accordance with the temporary amendments to the open meeting law. I confirm that we are providing access to the meeting with the zoom platform and all members of the board have the ability to communicate contemporaneously during this meeting through this platform. And the public has access to contemporaneously listen and if desired participate in this meeting and you can find out how to join by either going to the town website looking at the posted Minutes around the town or asking to be put on a direct email list that will give you that information. So It's That's that and we're going to before our regular select board meeting. We're having a Final public hearing for the Rochester Velomant trail grant and I will, I guess we'll open that that hearing and I'll ask Kimberly and Angus and RJ are here just to speak on that. So take it away. Yes, so I'll speak on basically does anyone Yeah. Sorry, Dan didn't mean to Okay, so I'm Kimberly Gilbert. I'm a regional planner at your regional planning commission, the two rivers out of quichu regional commission. And I did the grant administration for this project, the Velomant trail CDBG grant. And this is where the town of Rochester received $60,000 from the state of Vermont. Under the Vermont Community Development Program. So if you're not familiar with that program, the Vermont Community Development Program is a state program that assists communities on a competitive basis, Providing financial and technical assistance to identify local needs. And they do that in the areas of housing, economic development, public facilities, public services and handicapped accessibility Modifications. And this is a program that any Vermont town other than Burlington is eligible to apply to And so it's it's often A project that involves a lot of people. So it's not just the town. It's a coordinated effort between municipalities, community groups, local or state nonprofit groups organizations, businesses. And that was that was true. In this case, we had a lot of involvement from some different players. So I did grant administration from The town of Rochester is involved. We've got Angus and RJ, who are sitting in on this call today. I'm Angus from from Rasta and RJ from Vermont Huts Association. Who is RJ. Could you just tell me this name. I'm Martha Slater. I work for the Herald. I just want to write down the name RJ. RJ McCusker. No, RJ Thompson. Oh, Sorry, RJ. Glenn. So Thompson, right. Okay, thank you very much. Excuse me for interrupting. We're brothers. We're brothers. Oh, and you look so much alike too. Yeah. Sorry, RJ. So a great group here. SD group was the consultant, there were architects involved, US Forest Service staff, Countymont Trails Association volunteers, lots of people. And with this funding, those involved were able to identify location and path of the Vermont Trail and Hut locations, create trail plans and cost estimates for the trail and hut infrastructure and conduct an economic impact study to prove the project's feasibility and relevance to the surrounding communities. And that also estimated the anticipated spending patterns of the people who would use the trail. And if you're here from seeing our newspaper notice, then hopefully you had a chance to see that link where we posted that the study where you could actually go access it and look at all that the results of this project. If you didn't, I'll go ahead and paste that link into the zoom chat here now. But that's, that's everything I wanted to say from kind of the admin standpoint and I can pass it back off to Dune if you wanted to open for public comments or questions at this point. Yeah, thank you, Kimberly. Does anyone have any questions for Kimberly Angus, RJ, or the comments? Good job. I guess that's my comment. So, oh, I do have a question. When does this grant, when do we find out whether we got the grant? Yeah, so this is the closeout hearing. The grant was awarded and was implemented successfully and everything's wrapped up now. So this, yep, is a chance for anyone to comment on how that process went, what they program overall. But yeah, it was already gotten it, but then I thought, well, this is weird. Okay, we're having a hearing out. Okay. Yeah, yeah, just the closeout hearing, but it was a competitive grant. So that was pretty awesome that this project was chosen, you know, out of so many. It's a fairly large grant too, isn't it? It's a fairly large grant too, isn't it? 60. What was the question? It's a fairly large grant. Is that correct? It was a $60,000. When do we anticipate seeing some physical trail work taking place? Yeah, this is Angus. So we, the planning grant doesn't administer any grant funds for our trail building construction, but it did allow us to plan and get approval for our trail construction. And we've gotten a separate unrelated note, Northern Board of Vision Commission grant to actually implement, start implementing some of the trail with match funds raised too. And that hopefully to potentially start this summer, spring summer. So I can provide more details on where the construction, you know, this is all for service approved part of the Robinson Integrated Research Project. So, yep. Thank you, Angus. Well, if anyone else has anything they want to add or if that's it. Thank you guys for coming in some called this, this public hearing ended and move to open the regularly scheduled select board meeting, then you have to. So at this point, does anyone have any additions to the agenda for the select board meeting? Dune, it's Martha. I just have a quick comment. That's okay. Sure. I just received today when I got my mail I just received the town report and I wanted to compliment Nancy woolly on the beautiful job she did how gorgeous all the phones were and how nicely put together it was as usual. Thank you. You know, it's a lot of work. Thank you. Dune. I'd like to comment also and say that if it had not been for Norm Christianson that all that beauty would not have been there. Okay, sorry, I didn't. I forgot about your partner in crime. My partner in crime. All right. Mentioned was the fact that this was not just your standard run of the mill. There was a lot of adjustments retrofitting that Nancy had to do on to make this year unique from all the other years. Thank you for that. But we all did it. I do it for the agenda. I just like to comment and share some information about a possible grant for a generator for the town office building. Dune, are you there? I am. It is Robert. Yep. Oh, yep. Yeah, something you'd like to add to the agenda. Yeah, there are a number of questions and concerns. Number one, I want to make certain that everyone that attends the zoom meetings is responsible for their comments. Whether it's their dog barking or vulgar language in their commentary. So I would recommend that everyone be careful of what they say behind the scenes because there have been comments made and we traced to whom those comments were made by, and it was totally not appropriate. The second thing I want to comment on is the access to these zoom meetings. Zoom is owned by the Chinese government. I just, I'm going to put that out to everybody. I think the platform should be changed to Microsoft's platform, which is much safer. And I also recommend that the ease of access to these zoom meetings should be much easier. I was on your website. So Robert, Robert, hold on for a second. Right now we're just taking amendments to the agenda, and then we can address these amendments further on in the meeting. So we'll add those topics to the agenda. Well, there are a number of other. You shouldn't have a turn. So, there's been a 10 line item message sent to Jenny Prostner at the State House today, trying to answer my questions regarding. I'm sorry to bring it up again but the Board of Civil Authority of Rochester, the access to zoom meeting zoom meetings that some special meetings are recorded and others are not. So we'll put that on the agenda. And is there anything else we want to put on the agenda we've got the zoom platform itself we've got the BCA meetings and people being responsible for their house you want to add to the agenda. The law of Vermont, which is the open meeting laws. And unfortunately there's some discrepancy there with regards to Rochester's performance. All right. I think that would cover it. All right. Okay. So we've got those anyone else have any other additions to the agenda they'd like to make. Zoom. Yeah, I like to add that. For the ballots. I just like to just make an announcement about the ballots. Okay. And I'd like to also add an item. Regarding the. The logistics of dealing with the shoveling or clearing up the sidewalks in town. So we'll add that. So, I'll move on to the minutes from the last mean of January 25th. And I, it looked to me like they were appropriate. They saw one thing missing that again to Robert Frank's that there was a statement provided by Robert that Pat read, which it says is attached, but I didn't find that attached on the minutes that I got. So we'll add that statement to the minutes. Can I interrupt for just a moment. These are the, this is the rocky road of this. Non-meeting in the town clerk's office. And sitting there and everyone gets everything true. And these are the problems. Well, that's why we're, that's why we're addressing the minutes right now. I did get those minutes. Yes, I did. They're on the very bottom. It's like page three. On the, on the minutes. Well, do the chair of the select board of Rochester. The very first. The very first time I posted them, they did not have it. I did go back. Yeah. So I see it. It is down there farther. I didn't see it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Your comments did make it. To the minutes. Well, it's not about my comments. I'm just saying that we all have to understand that this. COVID protected zoom meeting is very bumpy. It's a rocky road and communication isn't, isn't really consistent. Because. Well, so far. You're doing pretty good. Actually. That you had something you want to say. Well, at this point in time, we're approving the minutes from the last meeting. That's where we are in our meeting. So we're keeping our meeting very structured and let's stay to the point. So. I have read the meeting minutes from our last meeting. And. I see no adjustments or corrections. Well, I, I might add something to that Patty is that thank you for Martha. You're very gracious and professional in what you do. It was very kind of you to mention my thank you to the town of Rochester. The reason I'm saying that is my concern for election day. I'm sorry. Thank God on November 2nd, the board of civil authority. Robert, Robert, you're, you're, you're devailing the flow here. Right now. The topic is approving the minutes of the last meeting. So let's take care of that first. And you're, you're not listening. Well, you were. Went on to complimenting Martha. About her reporting. And we're talking about the actual minutes. And do you have a complaint about what is in those minutes? Or. In addition to. Not just in the minutes, but in the newspaper, because the civil authority was thanked for their hard work. But I requested. As much as I could in September, October, November for the select board to wake up and understand the responsibilities of the board of civil authority. Election day. Can we move forward here, Robert? You're, you're, you're kind of postage talking to meeting here. All right. The issue right now. I'm a public citizen. No, no, no, no. Not a Rochester resident, Robert. I'm an American. Not at the town of Rochester, but you are a citizen of Vermont. Yeah. You're a citizen of the United States of America. But the point I'm trying to make, if you let me just finish is that. The board of civil authority. On November 2nd. Robert. This is not the board of civil authority meeting. This is a select board meeting. All right. You put it on the agenda to talk about this later on the meeting. You put it in the agenda to talk about this later. What you want to talk about. All right. Thank you. So do I have an a motion to approve the minutes from the January 25th meeting. I second that motion. All right. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Okay. We've got those minutes. And Robert, just hold your horses. We'll get to your. To. Any update she has on an ongoing business of the town. We've got a lot of noise coming in here. Okay. People mute themselves. Yeah, I was going to try and do that. It looks like there's a bunch of noise coming from Sandy's. Cooking dinner or something. In the background. I'll do that for you. If you want to say something. Tom or Sandy, just wave your hand and I'll unmute you. You're on. Okay. I'll turn on my video too. So you can see now I'm talking. Well, first, before I get started, I have to say that I read a very nicely written article. I think it was by Martha. Last week's Harold about all the activities that took place during the start of. I think it was a group effort, but thank you. Yes. Well, I compliment you, Martha, on your nice writing and also on everybody who was involved with that effort. I was. What I meant was the writing was a group effort to Catherine Shankman and some others as well. Sorry. My kudos to everybody for all the wonderful work you did. It was just really impressive how everyone pulled together and made things happen there. So moving on to the stuff I'm doing, not nearly as exciting. I'm working with Cooter to get ready for spring. FEMA road projects. I will probably put things out to bid. It'll be about. Five. It's six beds altogether. Probably the beginning of April. It'll include the retaining wall as well as about five different roads that need a significant amount of ditch work. There's been a little bit of activity back and forth on the West Hill bridge replacement design. He originally that our contract called for. The final designs to be submitted by now. But just because of, you know, COVID and. Usual difficulties associated that we've had in the past year. So. The design is taking a little bit longer. But right now it looks like they'll be delivered sometime mid February. Doesn't really matter a whole lot at this point anyway, since as you all know already, the. Instruction is not going to take place until. 2022. So. Still time to work out some. Last minute details on that. But we should be seeing those soon. I'm still compiling documents for. Submission to FEMA so that we can get some, some money back. It's going to be a while. Every time I check in with our FEMA representative, he's very helpful, but just says that things are. Still being reviewed. At higher levels. So we just have to wait for that process to continue. The store. The. Cow and grass stormwater project is expected to go out to bid sometime. This month. That bid process is being handled by white river partnership. But the, the intent there is also to be ready to get things going in April or as soon as. Conditions allow. And last, but at least I've. Lined up the planting project. It's a small planting project. On the Henry property that was associated with. Bethel mountain road. Rebuilding. So that's all I have to report for now. Excuse me. The Henry project is on Bethel mountain road. I didn't quite get that when I was ready. That's a tree. Project. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm sorry. Did you say something? No, I think, um, thank you. Okay. Okay. Nice. Thank you. Oh, okay. Thank you. Tony. Do you have any updates? Um, That's a tree planting project. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm. John. I'm sorry. Did you say something? No, I think, um, thank you. Okay. Okay. We're still doing the porch pickup thing. And tomorrow. At, uh, five 45, we have a trustees meeting. Which will be, of course, on zoom or whatever. Okay. All right. That's, um, kind of status. Steady state. For them. Times we're in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. More. No, I'm all set. Is anybody else having trouble hearing do. Yeah. Doing your frozen. Joan actually, um, you were talking about the 2020. Hear me. Um, You're cutting in and out doing your band with this really low. You might want to. Shut up your video. Yeah. I'm not. I just, I just, um, Turned on something full to see if that works. Yeah. So, um, Joan, your, um, So the certificate of highway mileage report is due. Is that, um, Something we'll have prepared and ready for us to find in the office there. Oh, I, I didn't know that was in. I haven't been to the office much at all lately. Yeah. But I can coordinate with Julie on that. Okay. Great. Great. I do, I do have it. It's due this week. And, um, Hooter has finished filling it out. So I just have to submit it. But I don't know if it's. I'll just have to have somebody review it. One of the select board members to review it. Okay. Great. And then we have, um, On the new business, we have a request from the local girl scouts to, um, do a, um, How they put it a, a heart scavenger hunt in town. Did you guys read that, that proposal? Do you have any comments on that? Does that work? Yeah. Okay. Do you have any comments, or do you have any comments? We'll go ahead and. Frank or Pat. The good activity at these days. Yep. I did read the proposal. The only thing I say is just. Remind them of the COVID. Distancing. That's about it. They didn't say much about that. But I think we should probably just make sure they're aware. And I'm sure they are, but. Is it some sort of an outdoor activity or something? I had to unplug my other computer so I can't take it there, but Pat, I think you've got it in front of you and you can give a little. A couple of sentences. I just wanted to know what it included. Maybe I thought it might be some sort of outdoor scavenger hunt or something. Well, let me, let me read the message to you. My name is Rachel Gregorian and I am the leader for the law. Okay. Yeah. Leader for the local Girl Scout troop. We are trying to get our service badge this year. That entails doing a bunch of projects for our community. The girls and I were wondering. If it would be possible to set up a heart scavenger hunt throughout downtown Rochester. It would basically entail hanging or hiding hearts around. We would like to put a little sign up stating the amount of hearts that people can search for. We're hoping families will go outside and see it is a fun way. For us to know we have the towns. It's fun way to spend the day time outside around town. Also just brighten someone's day. Let us know if we have the town's permission to do so. I don't think there's any prize for finding all the hearts. I think it's just an exercise for, for the girl. The warm, fuzzy thing. Yeah. Thank you very much, Pat. I can send that to you, Martha, if you'd like it. Okay. Sure. If you have time. I just wanted to explain what it was. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. And Vick, you had something you want to talk about. There's a. Permission to do it. I'm sorry. Do you have. Yeah, I think we've, yeah. Okay. Formally, I guess we'll give permission. I move we give permission for them to. To do that with the appropriate COVID. Cautions. I second that. Long favor. Thank you. Just no mint girl scout cookies. I can't do those. I'll take them. You've identified a potential grant for. Last November, I responded to a state survey. To emergency management directors looking for a. Potential grant project ideas. And I submitted a request. For consideration for a generator for the. Our emergency operation center, which is the town office building. And I got a note back. I forgot all about it back last week. This would probably qualify. So I got more information about it. And attended a information conference call today. It's a, it's a FEMA program that flows through the state. And then it's the state's municipalities. So this would be an application from the town. If we were to pursue it. I would like to work with Joan on this. If I could, Joan. I'm unfamiliar with this process, though I did learn that we would need to submit. Three bids for the work. For the generator and for the associated installation costs. And it's due. It's all due on March 5th, which is not very long from now. So I would be happy to work on this. With you, Joan. If you're, if you're, it might be available. I also thought I would get in touch with. Tom Schnabel and ask him to help in terms of just the specifications for what we need for a generator. And his ideas about, you know, what that might look like. And then we could. You know, quickly, hopefully put out bids to local companies to see who's interested in doing that work. Yeah, I'll be happy to work with you on that. Great. And say you want to say something. I'm just wondering, is there, are the parameters within the grant as to how much money? No, it's just based on, they didn't specify it's based on what you request. And they have to, and they want the bid proposals to verify that it's a reasonable amount. Oh, so we have to do the bidding before we actually bid. I had the application. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, we should need to get started on that soon. I'll send you a material that I have tonight, John. Maybe we can talk tomorrow sometime. Sounds good. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. All right. The one thing I added to the agenda was a. Request from John Gorton, who we've given him permission to store his tractor in the old fire station for dealing with the, the town sidewalks. And, and he asked. If he is willing to pay the bill. If he could have the electricity hooked up to that building. So he could, put a block heater on his tractor. And that would require probably some evaluation to make sure that that is, is safe. I don't think we just turn that on without, because so with the, the heating unit and other pieces of equipment taken out of that building, there may be some loose wires hanging around. But what, what's your guys thought on that? That, that would have to be a. A state inspected building, I think. On that seems how we've just disconnected the power on that. I would think they'd have to go through and have it approved. By an inspector, because it's a municipal building. And I don't know what that would entail to be. I don't know what that would entail to be. I don't know what that would entail to be. But I'm sure it would be a little more than. Just. Him just paying the power bill. Right. Yeah. I mean, we can look into it. I guess, yeah, we could see exactly what we're talking about there. And then. See. To what extent he is interested in that. So basically Frank, you're saying the building should be inspected by the state. And now you guys will, we'll look into that. I think it would have to be in order to have a meter plugged into that because it's a commercial. I don't think that green mountain power would just come up and put a meter in there. Okay. I can, I can find out. I can call. A couple of people that I know. And see what that, that would entail. Right. I'll take care of that. Thank you. Yep. Okay. And now, Robert, thank you for your patience. It's your turn again. Have you had a chance to summarize in your mind exactly what, what you want to share with the board here? Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. Hendrick said that the town's BCA would formalize the town's policy. That was in 2018. Hendrick said that the town's BCA board of civil authority would formalize the town's policy. That's written in the newspaper. Not in the Herald. The formalization of the BCA, which is responsible for voting stations. That we all, we've all been through this. Is, is responsible for. The polling station. On November 2nd. I want to ask the board of civil authority. At what day and what time did the board of civil authority wake up and understand that? Sadly, I was correct. Patty Harvey shared with me that, oh, we didn't get the response from the secretary of state's office till Friday afternoon. From what? Well, we didn't get the response from the secretary of state's office till Friday afternoon. From will sending. This is something that the town, everyone here, I don't really care what political situation you're in. It is the responsibility for the board of civil authority. But doing, you said, quote. The towns. The town's board of civil authority would formalize the town's policy. That was two years ago. And on the day before the two 20 election, the board of civil authority. Approved. The voting station policies. But I want to go back to Frank because Patty mentioned him. Thanking him for taking lead. To make certain that it happened. So. There's a few issues that I have to address. One is I go on to the website of Rochester. And it says the officials doing Hendricks Patty Harvey. Tom's or Mr. Whatever. And. Let me ask you this question. Martha and everyone else. Nancy. Are the, the people that are the members of the board of civil authority, are they considered officials? Quote unquote officials in the town of Rochester. Yes or no. Yeah, they are. Yes. They're all elected officials. Yes. Okay. So why aren't they listed on the. Rochester website. To be in contact with. They're not listed. It is the most important part of. The select board is one thing, but the board of civil authority has more authority than the select board. So why in God's world aren't the representatives of the board of civil authority listed with contact numbers. To contact. These are questions that I put out to the, to Jenny. Jenny up at the state house today. It's like this is part of the open meeting rule laws. And it's really important for everyone to just. Take a breather and say, wait a second. Nancy. It looks like that Nancy's got the town report open to the page that, that has that information on it. Well, if you're, if you're a person or a family. If you're interested in, in, in, in investing in the town of Rochester and buying a home and making certain that schooling is proper for the children. Where do you think they're going to go? People outside of Rochester know what the boards of civil authorities know. Or are. But you can't, you cannot find the board. You would have to put a little effort into it, but I believe that you can find them over. Okay. So. That they would probably call the town clerk and say, could you tell me who is on the board of civil authority? Oh, Julie, have you ever had anyone call you and ask you that other than Robert? I have people ask questions all the time. So that's a similar question as what he's asking. The question is. The, I could stand in front of max market tomorrow. And ask. A hundred people. What the board of civil authority of Rochester is. And 98% of them would say, I don't even know what you're talking about. But it's, you just force, you can't force feed. That kind of information to people. If people are interested, they would know how to answer that question. If people aren't interested, they wouldn't even know what you're talking about, Robert. But guess what? It's not our job to, to demand that every person in the United States knows who we are. You know, we, we respond to requests. And we're here. You know, we're not hiding. As much as you may think that we are. But that's a, that's, um, I'll, you know, is, are they on the website? Should they be linked on the website? I may not know. I don't have it pulled up so we can look into that. So we'll go into another situation. Uh, regards to the select board. I put out a question to you, Dune, almost 10 days ago. About why. Special meetings, some special meetings are recorded on orca and others aren't. And, and that. Now falls into that. Because you never answered my question. It was a very simple question. Why in God's world? Actually, I did answer your question, Robert. You did not. I have no reference to that. Uh, did you check your email today? Dune, I checked my email a hundred times a day. All right. Well, Well, what, what I'm saying is, is that. The communication, whether it's the select board or the board of civil authority. And the addressing of those people. Public. Any person that takes the responsibility under oath to be on the select board or the board of civil authority should be listed on the web's, the town's website. It's public information under their oath. So I think your web, your, your website. I don't know who the webmaster is, but your website is a disaster. Okay. I spent a 45 minutes. Okay. So we get the point. And zoom is run by the Chinese, but I think that it's, um, You know, Are they able to find out who our board of civil authority is? I bet they want it to. Um, I think that, that, that, that question is, uh, Are you asking me that question? No, I'm just, I'm just addressing the concerns that you brought up at the beginning of the meeting. Um, And you're, you're requesting that we abandon the zoom platform. I think that would be a great idea. I think that the town of Rochester and Bethel Pittsfield Stockbridge should all go on to Microsoft. So it's not on zoom. And the school children. The school children should not be sitting at home. On a zoom, uh, classroom. It is not good for our society. All right. So, and then the other thing that you just wanted to reiterate that people should be, um, People should be respectful when they're on these meetings to not have, um, Negative comments. So that's, that point is taken. It's, it's not, it's not a negative comment. It's vulgarity. Okay. But the point is taken the point. We, we hear you and the point is, is taken. Um, and I, I think everyone that's on this meeting. Here's what you're saying. You know, um, So I want to, I want to point this, um, comment to Frank Severy. Frank asked me. And it's quoted on Orca. And I, I would recommend everyone that's pre present tonight. Go on to the Orca meetings of the Rochester select board and the selected. Meeting. Recordings. And listen to the quotes of people. Frank Severy. You know, So I want to, I want to point this, um, I want to point this, um, So I want to point this, um, So I'm going to make it clear. Frank Severy said on Orca, Robert, do you have a plan? This is prefacing election day. I want to make it clear to everyone on this meeting that my intention was to make certain for the good of the town of Rochester, That the board of civil authority would take hold of election listening, that after the election was completed on November 3rd, if the town of Rochester did not go through the Board of Civil Authority to approve the voting policy rules, every vote in that town, in your town and your high school building would be null and void. According to state constitution, the town, I want Frank to know that because you actually intimidated me saying, Robert, do you have something planned? The plan was, if you don't heed to the Board of Civil Authority's responsibility, all votes in the town of Rochester, as of the end of election day on November 3rd would be null and void. You could not send anything to the state house. But that is not- You follow through with that, Robert, and we did it properly. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's an old history, and you've made your point and- Whoa, whoa, whoa! No, June, it's not old history. It's history waking up saying the Board of Civil Authority of Rochester needs to take much more, your quote was in 218 and you quoted that you were gonna formalize the town's policy. On November 2nd, the town politics- Yep, we're constantly struggling to improve what we do in service to the town, Robert. Well, I think people should look up the definition of incompetency. Okay, thank you. Does anyone else have anything they would like to speak about before we move into executive session to discuss the issues about the school, high school building with their town council? I wanted to make an announcement. Yeah. I just wanted people to know that the absentee ballots for both the school vote and for the town meeting are all ready to be requested. Great. And Julie, can people just call up the office and arrange to pick one up or get it mailed to them or what's the arrangement? I just wanna make sure. They can call. Okay, thank you. So is this meeting being recorded on ORCA tonight? Can you look on your screen and answer that question for yourself, Robert? So this meeting's being recorded, but the special meeting on November 2nd wasn't. And then on- That's right. That's right. Why was it not recorded? They didn't come. It's not, well, ORCA was invited, but they did not come. And if you track down the email that I sent you with the information from VLCT, the BCA meetings are not required to be recorded. It's only the select board meetings that are required to be recorded. So that's fine. And I think you've had this information shared with you more than once, Robert. Why was the special meeting on the last two special meetings recorded on ORCA and the day- Because we're special meetings, any select board meetings are required to be recorded? No, these were special meetings. Yes, special meetings is a select board meeting, Robert. The special meeting, the meeting on November 2nd was a special meeting and you can't know when you're causing it. That was a special meeting of the board of civil authority, Robert. So you're saying that the select board records their meetings on ORCA, but the special meeting for the board of civil authorities. So why is not the board of civil authorities meetings recorded? It's not the law. And we did actually give an invitation to ORCA, but they didn't come because perhaps they know that it was not the law and it was actually a very short and sweet meeting. You were there, I believe. Yeah. So I think you should have a conversation with Jenny Prosser up at the State House. I know you've constantly let us know that people are about to call us and rain down the fury of the state, but it has yet to happen. And we have consulted with our legal sources and this is how we're moving forward, Robert. Well, I would recommend to your attorneys to talk to the State House and ask why the town of Rochester doesn't record the board of civil authority meetings on ORCA. Why is there no transparency? You were there. There are still meetings. You can find the meetings minutes to those meetings. So there is transparency. The minutes, we're going around in circles here, Robert. You say that all the time. I'm not going around in a circle. I'm asking you a very simple question and that is why would the select board meetings be recorded on ORCA and then select special meeting? It's the law. Isn't that what you're trying to impress upon us? That we should follow the law and the rules of the state? No, I'm asking you a simple question, Dune. What you do, I just answered. Okay, Robert, I think that unless you have some clear one more sentence to sum up your displeasure or your suggestions I'd like to move into executive session. Do you have one simple statement that you would like to make? I want the board of civil authority of Rochester to record all special meetings that select board to record all special meetings on ORCA so that public people that want to invest in this town can see what is going on. Okay, thank you. All right, and with that... Dune, can I just ask you a quick question about your executive session? Is this something that... It says school building is what you'll be discussing. Is that something that you would be coming out with that you'd... We'll have the minutes. We'll have any resulting actions that would... Okay, so it's something I could call Julie at the town office about tomorrow maybe? Right, right. Okay, thank you very much. All right, thank you. All right, anyone else? Anything else you want to say tonight or we're good? Thank you all. And see you around town. All right, thank you. Thank you. Have a good evening, everyone. All right, folks.