 6 30 p.m. Well, let's call this meeting to order a motion to accept the agenda There a second second seconded Okay I Mutano and shoot bar. Thank you. Any discussion on the agenda? Nope, okay Except that through the agenda All right is the is anyone in the room for public forum Of course, okay, Rob. Can you take care of whoever is on mine further? Thank you Rob Kelly divine I'm the executive director of the Burlington Business Association Here to speak about the memo Related to parking changes first. I want to thank Chapin and Jackie for taking the time to meet with me I thought it was a very productive conversation If some as some of you may know we worked very collaboratively on parking, you know up till a couple of years ago And I always found that collaboration to be really productive I have reviewed the memo that that Jackie submitted and I Have to say that while I don't have particularly a I'm not here to speak out against the rate changes. We did work together. I think and come up with Something that makes sense in the short term and also that you know, they did alert the hotels As well, I just wanted to take an opportunity to say that I think that What we're seeing in parking is really indicative of the fact that People are not coming downtown and people that previously were working downtown aren't coming back to Those parking passes that were in the garage Pre-pandemic the parking fund was in really good shape financially Then the pandemic hit. I know that while it wasn't necessarily DPW's policy decision when you know, we're operating a parking system, but we didn't we kept the staff on it really did Draw down the fund pretty substantially. I know that that's been backfilled by ARPA funds But I do think that going forward that While I'm I'm excited to continue to work with the DPW team to try to come up with some creative solutions to this I don't think that the solution really Necessarily Lies with rates as I've told Chapin and Jackie I think people have a lot of reasons not to come downtown now and you know when people aren't using your product You don't usually go up on the price. So I think we need to get creative on how we Use parking among other tools to provide an incentive for people to visit Burlington to continue to have office space in Burlington and We have had some really productive conversations that I hope when they're presented the Commission will consider Relative to coming up with some more parking permit tools or options that fit this new reality of Office workers in town now not a lot of people anymore are coming in five days a week You know every every week of the month people's habits have changed substantially And I think you're seeing that in the memo there with that, you know over seven hundred thousand dollar shortfall in parking permits So I want to I want to be able to work together with you with you guys and with the team on that I'm excited to do that. Jackie's been great. I'm very open to it and So that's my sort of general opinion on more specificity When I looked at the memo and the ordinance change the one suggested change that I would have is I think in the marketplace garage to go from, you know charging a gradated rate up to seven hours and then and then jumping to fourteen dollars It's in I don't know that I have a version here that has numbered lines like you see at City Council, but It talks about it being eight dollars up to six hours nine dollars up to seven hours And then it jumps to 14 and I would ask that the Commission consider something similar to what's in the language above for the Lakeview garage, which is you know, you're charging for that a different rate for that eight Eighth hour in that ninth hour and then over 10 hours you get to $14 Because I think for someone from nine to seven that's going to be kind of shocking I'll add one more thing. I'm Myself and Business folks downtown are supportive of consideration of a future discussion about charging on Sundays Thank you Thank you Kelly for those comments anyone else That's all that's in queue Reach then we will go ahead and close the book forum Right now we have the consent agenda a motion to approve the consent agenda with the updated note that came in this afternoon with the items the modification of line 245 and line 35 that were noted in the amended piece on the IAA parking So moved Is there a second a second Great. Thank you Bar and Hogan Any discussion? No All in favor say hi All right. Hi Any extensions or thanks Ornace, no All right, the consent agenda passed All right eight out of five off-street parking rate changes The presentation from Jackie and Chapin on this That's correct. Thank you so much chair O'Neill Vavanko Chapin Spencer director of public works and I'm joined here with Jackie asperity who has a short presentation kind of modified a bit from last month and then You know, she and I are receptive to the comments that That Ms. Devine has made from the Burlington business association So Jackie will have some revised proposal language Good evening So we wanted to talk about some off-street changes post our meeting from last month Just some information prior to COVID that budget 265 which covers the garages and the lots Had a fund balance and there's a deficit now Rates these rates have not been changed since July of 2014. We are controlling expenses as much as possible But we have had to increase things such as security Just as an example from ninety thousand dollars to three hundred thousand for fiscal year 24 This is just an overview of the funds the lots and the two garages are a part of this one and This is forty five percent through the fiscal year the outlook of Revenues if it were to continue as it is now Not not looking great And so changes from the last time we took out some of the proposals based on some feedback that we received And so we're looking to adjust the max daily rate at both garages downtown garage would move from eight dollars to $12 and marketplace would move from ten dollars to fourteen and Adjusting the monthly permit rates. We're looking to increase by four dollars per permit at the downtown garage, which is $80 to 84 for the five-day permits and 96 to 100 for the six-day permits and Marketplace garage. We're looking to increase that from 96 to 120 The reason for that is because we do have a long wait list that lot is full. We have a wait list We know that that's really premium parking. So that's why we're looking to increase that one more Engagement and feedback. So we I reached out to all of the permit holders in both of the garages via email two times we put banners on the websites that we have DPW and Park Burlington. I also emailed some of the Key stakeholders so all three of the sorry two of the hotels which would be directly affected by this and like Kelly said We we met and spoke about how some of the other businesses would take this We are looking at other options with either Park Mall or the AIM system that we have for kind of a hybrid work schedule, so as You know punch card sort of option instead of five days a week because a lot of people do work Tuesday through Saturday or something different or only three days a week. So we're looking into those options And I did email you a short while ago the one piece of feedback that we received from one of the hotels a Little bit of pushback, but they they do understand we meet with them often every quarter Regarding the security in the garage. So this is something that I think they were expecting But I didn't have the opportunity to sit down with them So we're looking to implement these changes as early as in 2024 as possible We do plan to I know a lot of the feedback that we received last meeting was on-street changes So we're collecting data on that first before we implement any changes or propose any So coming soon. What was the increase in security that we increased from 90,000 to 300,000 And I guess we did take from what Kelly said. It's definitely a good idea for the Kind of implementing different hours. I'd like to change in Section 19 be nine increasing from nine dollars Up to seven hours and just implement two dollar increases. So eleven dollars for eight hours $13 for nine hours, and then the $14 would be ten hours plus. That's for the marketplace garage Sorry, I missed last week or last month. So if the demand is not there at what point do you Think about other uses for the that space or those buildings Yeah, that's a good question Commissioner Sears, I think at this point we are looking at a multitude of strategies from as Kelly divine had suggested a more flexible product We're also looking at overnight products for area residential Uses in marketplace right now. We're limited to only parking for up to 24 hours or 48 48 in marketplace. So that really limits someone who might have a residential unit nearby and You know it's gone for the weekend. We shouldn't be Wholesale preventing Residential overnight use when we have capacity the problem is Residential folks do park throughout the day many days of the week if they're retired or they don't use their car a lot So we don't want to just give away the marketplace, which is our most highest demand garage to Storing of cars long-term So we're gonna have to figure out the proper balance of how to Accept in these residential uses, but we are looking at new products new offerings so that we can better utilize our structures Okay Commissioner Mutano, what do you have any questions? Where to start I mean I support the amendment actually expanding it out to 10 hours before kind of capping it at the max rate Keeping it as linear as we can That said there's still certainly a lot of people driving into Burlington each day I know every time I'm walking down Main Street right about five o'clock. There is a ton of people still, you know coming into Burlington for regular working hours and As we're looking forward more on the time scale of years right looking ahead especially since Some of these parking lots are reaching or garages are reaching the end of their lifespan That we really consider how we're gonna be using these spaces because this is still like a Modern American city like the way the way like traffic is flowing is such that well, there's a lot of people driving and One way that we in the future might be discouraging that when there are viable alternatives is Raising the rate at which it costs to park But I know it's a lot of work to actually really implement those alternatives and as a commissioner definitely thinking through how the actual parking fund right the parking division as well as other aspects of public works and public transportation all Come together to really serve the city best is it's certainly something that I Want us to be doing really as far as a Place right Church Street Marketplace is a world-class destination. There are people traveling Really long distances to come here and visit and stay in those hotels and catch the view of the sunset and shop On Church Street and really just be there in the place. So I'm not I'm not against raising the rate At all. I mean, it's it's really really really minor Yeah, really as the Main Street sort of Kind of corridor really comes in and we're welcoming more people coming by train as well That that certainly could alleviate some of the people that are kind of parking in that lot and staying in the hotels Really, they're gonna be getting a very different vantage Of the city at that point, but in short I have no issue raising the rates of parking as I don't know kind of a vice tax Driving and this is a little bit of a vice That's all. Thank you Commissioner bar any comments on parking? Oh Yeah, sure. I always have comments on parking and I understand Coming from my experience that having the income from the parking is extremely important and with the downturn of People coming in and getting less money to be able to offer the same services. We do need to increase it So I'm supportive of that Normally and I agree with Commissioner Patano that Using parking rates as a TDM measure to try and reduce cars and promote Transportation and use of public transit is one of the best things you can do when there's such a high demand and Unfortunately, now there's not such a high demand So we're stuck between a rock and hard place here I don't want to lose sight of the fact that hopefully Burlington is going to turn around and things are going to come back And there are going to be people that need to come in and people that do need to park Not everybody needs to drive but those that do need to park will come in and hopefully we won't be raising rates again on them As soon as we get them back But other than I support the the amendment that you made If you could when it comes time Give give the verbiage for it Thanks Great, thank you Commissioner box A few not nothing wild Yeah, I'll just add I'm really glad to hear that the department is working With Ames and Park mobile on the new new parking products as you stated because I think you know with all this parking tech that we have there's definitely a way to Make products that are more appealing to hybrid workers, right? So that maybe it can be an option where they pay as they go. So they're only Paying right like for the days that they're coming into park at the garage and then they're not paying one of both price for the permit I don't know. So I'm just you know, I'm supportive of that creative thinking generally. So happy to hear that and then yeah, I We went over a lot of the details of this at our last meeting and you know, I'm generally supportive of the rate change And I think that's it. Thank you commissioner Fox I'm just gonna circle back to commissioners here because You had a question early on but then I didn't circle back to see if you had finished Thanks. Um Yeah, I finished I think it's worth keeping an eye on I don't know how long we want to subsidize our parking garages in this city So I don't know if you want a timeline on that or just looking ahead. It seems like Some contingency plan is needed Thank you commissioner Sears. Yes, we do expect to be back in the next few months Once we've done the off-street and on-street data collection to really understand trends and have more time to work with the clerk Treasurer's office the parking facilities fund thanks to our work to improve the garages has about three million two and a half million dollars of debt and so We have had to bring that debt in-house Held by the city because we could not meet debt coverage ratios With the depleted fund balance and the lack of revenue coming in so We have debt that's being held by the city. We do have an income problem Or at least a revenue problem. We're trying to trim expenses as well but we are going to be back likely with some additional rate adjustments new product and Hopefully, you know some Planning that you all can see about how we are going to get the ship back on firm financial ground This is not where we wanted to be I spent the first seven years of my Tenure here rebuilding the fund balance as it was depleted when I came in we were doing fine until we hit covid And then we lost it. So We now have to rebuild Thank you Commissioner Hogan any comments the evening could you clarify for me the when you say that the security Budget piece has gone up from 90,000 to I Got 270,000 down before you mentioned 300,000 roughly is that in the last year or since 2014 the last time the rates That's budgeted fiscal year 24 So that's what our budget expenses expense is for this fiscal year when was the last time it was 90,000 Yeah, I will need to go back and look it's possible that we budgeted Last year for you know the 90 but spent, you know 120 I don't have the actuals in front of me. It is a significant increase. We are trying to be responsive to the downtown community during this time We do have three different structures two of which are co-joined many levels We're trying to be as visible as possible. Yeah Appreciate I think that would be a welcomes Expensive investment And a question on the on the comments from Hotel Vermont regarding the Had some pain points with the existing permit structure Could you speak to I know you've been mentioning that you're considering other like more flexible Products is some of that like this is a known Unknown problem or is that some of the flexibility of considering Hans had Had we at our last meeting he spoke about that because they do have some employees that work the Tuesday through Saturday or You know Monday through Friday some week. So we're working on that, you know with them in mind They They pay four dollars So they pay half of the daily rate for their Overnight customers. So for one overnight if you were saying Tuesday to Wednesday They pay four dollars for your vehicle to be there for both days So their rates on that would go up Does that answer your question I think so and it seems like the nature that the concern was regarding employee parking Yeah, I think it seemed like both when when in his email The top part was the 50 increase four dollars to six dollars for that and then the bottom Yes, so we had spoke about that in November So hopefully we can implement working with park mobile to implement something and then further down the road We hope to do something a little bit better with aims. Yeah Okay. Oh, thank you for that. Thank you for your work on it and what's what's obvious is the partnership with The business community and other stakeholders in town. It's clearly that we are Yeah, we need we need that partnership Thank you My comments most everyone has Um Said what I probably was going to say anyway. Um, I do support the rate increase. Um, I feel like we do we do Burlington is If we're going to recover from this moment in time the moment in time being coveted compounded by A lot of the drug and crime that's going on right now But I think the investment in the increased security in the garages is really important And charging, um, you know updating the rates From 2014 is important that said I I agree with the comments on moving away from the one size solution and looking into What are the what are the hybrid options? How can we really maximize That it's really valuable real estate downtown So how do we have that dynamic movement of? vehicles while also perhaps as director Spencer Mentioned not just warehousing residential vehicles but allowing You know some creative solutions to provide Parking for those In the downtown area who don't have access to some parking um And I think you know a concern we talked about last month is you know concerned about the hourly workers making sure that those staff folks who are working have Access to If they have to drive access to safe parking in this this time period that we're in right now and a flexible enough free structure that they can afford To park there and earn a living so I appreciate that flexibility and again I am supportive of The rate increase so that's it on my end Um, all right any comments from the public So are you here for this agenda item? No, okay Okay, all right, so We have an action to approve this rate change However, I'm wondering If we can if you can either put it on the slide or read the modification that came in That you mentioned at the at the start of the slideshow Yes, so In under marketplace garage section nine I'll read from kind of halfway down. It says six dollars up to four hours seven dollars up to five hours Eight dollars up to six hours nine dollars up to seven hours We would amend and add 11 dollars up to eight hours 13 dollars up to nine hours And maximum daily rate of 14 dollars after 10 hours okay So it's a still the maximum rate, but just that um, it's a little bit more gradual Over the time period Correct, correct. Okay All right, um commissioners is that Is that all clear? Okay, so a motion to approve staff recommendation for the off-street parking rate changes With the amended language important clarification Go ahead So this actual resolution that is attached to this agenda item that we have Friendly amended right now is going to be referred to city council to actually enact So really our action is to refer this item to city council if I understand correctly And we are we are essentially the sponsor as the commission of The department of public works. This is seeking your action This does not need City council action. This is in appendix c of the ordinance which is able to be adjusted by You all right, so essentially we are enacting this appendix c change By this action by approving the staff's recommendation with the amendments that we Just approved here. Thank you. All right. Okay. Just just like clarifying like for Everyone. Yeah, I know it's all it's all in the charter somewhere exactly where this falls in but uh, yeah, that's fantastic. Thank you So the language that uh, we have in the packet is move to adopt The city of berlington ordinance changes related to adjusted rates in the city's municipal garages as detail in the attached document So we're referring to the detail That was actually communicated verbally in this presentation Precisely right. Okay. I I move exactly that Is there a second a second Seconded Okay. Thank you. Commissioner mutano and commissioner bar Any discussion Approval all in favor Aye. Aye. Aye. Any nays No Okay, I for myself that motion approves unanimously Thank you very much Okay, thank you All right that piece is closed. Thank you all Thank you jackie for your time And then on to director's report All right, thank you Let's see. There were a number of items in the packet One of them as progressed since I wrote this which is the engineering standards on monday night Were approved by the city council unanimously and I just want to thank staff Both in tech services as well as water resources as well as other departments who Engaged in this activity Engineering standards are helpful for the city in a number of ways Making sure that investments either made by developers or by the city Or even homeowners working on their water or sewer laterals are replacing assets To the city standard to make sure that our streets and rights of way are well maintained It's also going to be helpful and this is likely going to be an item that will come to you in subsequent months Is that we have a number of streets in the city of brollington that are unaccepted These are private streets. These are streets that Are maintained by the properties along them And uh, there has been interest in some of these streets to have them accepted by the city With these engineering standards, we now have the foundation on which to say that you need to Reconstruct or prove to us that the streets are built to standard Before the city will take them over to make sure that the city is not taking over a liability For the rest of the Tax payers so we will be talking about this in coming months, but a big success There's updates on the north plant siphon repair and we are all Holding our breath to make sure that this high water flood event Does not damage our recently repaired siphon under the woonewski river so far so good and In the back of my director's report is the detail on the north woonewski avenue survey that the city council Transpacient energy utilities committee asked us to complete In our mind its staff's mind it indicates that there's a general understanding that the new configuration Is functional and safer than The previous design and we will continue to work with the community health center on off street parking And we also had at the two meeting last night transportation energy and utilities committee meeting A good presentation on the woonewski river bridge project Which we are really excited to work with the city of woonewski v trans And our federal partners to construct in a way that will add much more robust bike and pedestrian facilities As well as a bridge that will last another hundred years as this current bridge is A relic of the 1927 flood replaced soon after so Those are my updates. Happy to answer any questions now. We're in the uh commissioner section. Thank you Sorry, thank you Any any questions Commissioner Mutano, let's start with you Any questions on the director's report? Yeah, i'm i'm actually kind of interested in that private street to public street conversion Is that something that any That is going on is that some like At this point, obviously the city can't impel The property owners to maintain their private property to the standard But is anyone Interested in giving up their their right of way to the city and and how does that Happen really right? There is a dedication and acceptance process where the the private entity That owns it whether it's a collection of property owners or one property owner On which the the land was subdivided Would need to dedicate and the city then would need to accept Pending our agreement that the street is up to standard We have had many conversations over time. We have the most recently accepted street was franklin square, which was maybe two years ago There have been ongoing discussions about Chittenden Drive and iranistan, which are Interconnected streets on the south end We Do for plowing purposes? Uh plow those streets because they are part of the grid and are more helpful for us to use them To reach other streets So it is a complicated situation where there are private streets in the city And yet there may be some level of Public maintenance activities on them. So this is an area that needs renewed attention and is a decades old issue That now with the engineering standards we can more clearly address so Then there are Private streets that are not explicitly marked as as private like iranistan avenue, for example That is a compliant, you know street sign. That is it appears to be a public street like Yeah, but um, so how many miles do you reckon all together are private private streets in the city? Uh, I don't have that number on hand, but uh, my About a mile like is that we have approximately two dozen streets in the city that are Unaccepted Okay, cool. Thank you for that. Most of which are cul-de-sac dead end streets. Yeah Cool. Thank you for that. Yeah Thank you Commissioners Sears any questions? No, thank you for the report. I appreciated The survey results those are so interesting to read Yeah, thanks for including that. Yeah Thank you. Do I should know bar Thank you I just have one question and it also pertains to the private streets. Um It will one of the standards be that it must be paved I'm just curious because there are some private Lanes that are still gravel Yes, um That is a good question If the rest of the infrastructure, I would need to check with the city engineer clearly for Pape streets are much easier for us to maintain But there are some very low traffic streets I know we spend uh an inordinate amount of resource trying to maintain the few dirt roads that we have in the city Interveil road, uh north avenue extension so My understanding is our strong preference, uh, is that we want to accept streets that are paved and are built to city standard Okay, thanks. Yeah, that's it. Thank you commissioner box Yeah, thanks for the report. Um, thank you. I wanted to bring up was the great streets main streets main street project just because At our november meeting you're still sort of like reviewing The bids and um, so I guess I'm just wondering if you could Walk us through briefly sort of like what what happened and now it's being phased So You know, what's the plan to get phase two actually implemented? Are there any like creative cost savings Or like alternative infrastructure ideas for phase two to make it less expensive Um, yeah, just because all of that happened super quickly and it was during Thanksgiving holiday time and so Yeah, just if you could just provide a little more of an update on that would be great Oh, thank you. Uh, very much commissioner fox happy to talk about that and I did uh gloss over that one And there's been a lot of work over the last month So when we received the bids for the great streets main street project the low Bid came in 50 percent higher than the engineers estimate Which uh, unfortunately is Not Been unusual I know wenewski when they bid their main street project came in I believe 30 plus percent over the engineers estimate the champlain parkway Came in I think 47 percent over engineers estimate with the inflationary environment Coming out of covet. We've been seeing a very tough bid environment so Staff had to work quickly and through a lot of negotiations with the contractor To come up with a phase to construction plan instead of the six blocks that we've previously discussed The plan is to deal with the ravine sewer, which is a critical foundational element to allow redevelopment along this corridor Uh And three blocks of main street from wenewski down to pine street That leaves the top block up by memorial the justification there is to wait for The redevelopment of memorial to make sure that the streetscape Well interfaces with the redevelopment of that Uh property or the renovation of that property if that's found to be feasible And then uh the bottom two blocks Uh Will also need to be Uh a second phase We are going to be applying for federal grants as they come up Uh The lower two blocks are in a census tract that has disadvantaged Households and such that we think we can get a potential 100 percent or 90 or 80 percent federal Grant which would minimize our local match And we are going to have to figure this out. It's it's suboptimal especially for the off street Bike network that we're developing as part of this project Uh, so we are trying to figure out how we would develop an interim con connection For the bike route, uh while we work to raise money for phase two So we did have a business meeting, uh two business meetings last week Uh on the 14th, I believe of december Thanks to the bba for helping to organize one of those and you know, there is concern here about Both the impact from construction and how we're going to get the full project done So we're not out of the woods, but I think we have a pragmatic path forward There are projects that are waiting and depending on this, uh the vermont The vfw project which is going to develop dozens of affordable housing units where the old vfw is on south wanouski The building and parking lot of that project are over the ravine sewer And in redeveloping that property It's not optimal to put a building over an active sewer, especially one that's a hundred and 40 50 years old and is built with bricks and rocks So, uh this project main street great streets is really a critical element of this type of redevelopment in the city Is that what you were looking for commissioner fox? Yes. Yes. Thank you. I think yeah I mean just a lot happened and it was really hard for me to even keep up with so Yeah, I was just looking for yeah that summary. So thank you and um, you know as um Disappointing as it is, right? Um, it's encouraging to hear that the department is looking at those federal grant opportunities and So, yeah, I mean it's sort of like having to take one step at a time and also A million steps. I don't know. Um, so yeah, thanks for just looking for an update On that piece of it. Um, yeah, that was the only question I had on this item Thank you I wish you had hogan There thank you. Well on the on the main streets Phasing in the in the top blocks there It hasn't occurred to me. Maybe there's a Possible opportunity it seemed like, um We had a small leash carefully Outlined for us by the downtown Tiff districts, right that went no Cut off at union. I was glad to see originally that the intersection with unions was in the plans, but correct No further leaving it, you know, it's really short of some key institutions at the elementary middle school uvm It's center. So like that's a good network wise. It was always going to Be kind of a dead end from the safe infrastructure heading east perspective Maybe there's an opportunity You know for In the conversations, I understand it's not going to be like tomorrow, right? We don't want that to wait 20 years to the magical pot of money to to do it, but in Maybe we can go further up the hill That's it's a great point that's bucket of money And it is a conversation that staff have had that tiff tax increment financing really limited Where we could improve main street and with federal funding we can potentially go Further uphill eastward, but also further westward They the tiff was limited to battery street and main street does continue down around union station down to college street And that last block really connects to the waterfront. So there's opportunities on both ends. Yeah Thank you The bright side here, um That's okay. I'm super excited to see the Middle section proceeding. We'll look forward to that I'm still digesting the musky survey results, but thanks for including that Just a quick Visualization comment off the bat here that high charts tend to be They tend to confuse the message and that you can't directly compare the values that are shown there For what it's worth, okay Yeah, you know, it's hard to sort of visually scan these things. There's no way to compare across We did uh notice that the pie charts the report In the packet had wonky formatting Wonky being the technical term. So we did uh post up on the website a cleaner version of the survey That may help a little bit, but I understand the other point you're making Yeah, I understand we're probably we're all working with limited uh any resources here Yeah, I look forward to giving that a Good look over later. Great. Nothing further. Thank you Thank you. Um, yeah, I like bars bars instead of pie charts, but Thanks for that Yeah, I mean, I think main street gray streets while it's really um, it is disappointing I like when you when you talk through Um the ravine and what we really need to do I think that is again infrastructure. It's like the hole in your sock You don't think about it until your toe is poking out And if we can address um that ravine Then we look at some other Um, you know, kind of future development pieces like memorial like the vfw site. Um, so I'm glad we're moving forward with that piece. Um And my I guess my only question right now is not related to that but on The north plant and the the the the high water I kept waiting To hear that we were going to have some Water issue So I probably checked my public works commission email more way more frequently in the past few hours during I mean the past few days with the flooding And happy to see that there were no alerts Um, do you have a sense if we are like Seem like we pressed it. Are we out of the woods? Um, will there be any testing? Um, or is there a way To to kind of click the box and see that we made it we made it through or the repair made it through Um, this, you know, kind of a horrible amount of rain Yes, thank you. Um, I do Want to amplify your message that uh staff worked over the weekend and and through Monday to operate a number of pump stations and and repair some pump stations during the storm To keep our wastewater running as it should and we had no Uh discharges during the storm and if you get the reports from around the state like I do there were 15 or 20 wastewater plants around the state all with experiences and issues or combined sewer overflows And uh, I cut my shower short on monday morning When the when the rain was really coming down because I happened to live in the pine street, uh, cso, uh sewer shed And, you know, I like to think that, you know, turning my shower off was the difference that saved the cso But we had no cso's during that storm event Which is a real feather in all of our caps as we build green infrastructure as we Clean our systems and really plan for a better future That said, we're not out of the woods yet on the high river water for the siphon and we'll continue to monitor that Uh, a small break, uh, will, uh, create A situation where we will notice volume differences at the plant very quickly. We have not noticed that yet We may do a dye test after the storm. We do do dye tests every Once or twice a year to make sure that the the siphon is is in good shape. So Thank you. I really feel like, you know, three five years ago. Um We would have really expected, um, some some discharge so kudos to you know, our rate payers, um, to the commission and certainly to, um, water division for, um, for the investments, um, that that, um, we kind of collectively have made In our infrastructure, um, I think moments like this are really telling, um, that Again, I know we're not out of the woods, but, um, that At least hopefully most of it's behind us So thanks All right, um, that that's director's report. Um, we'll close that out. Um, any commissioner communications? Commissioner bar Let's start with you. I'm sorry. I always have to say something. So, um, I just wanted to To say, and this is the city as a whole, not just Public works, but, um, the old east end part of Word one has been working hard to Redo our park and make it a more welcoming place. So We just put in a large kiosk And nobody got hurt So it was good as a 400 pounder, um, but it's in the ground So if you're going down Grove Street and patch and road, take a take a look towards the park and you can see it Um, and we are working through to get a nice rink up there too. So I just wanted to put that out there that Public parks and rec are going to help help with that maintaining of it. So But other than that, things are great and I'm just looking forward to a great winter I will say that the city council did just approve on Monday night the mo you with the old east end Organization that you all will buy the radar speed feedback sign with grant funds And that the city after a year will spread that resource around the rest of the city. Nice job. Thank you. Thanks Great. Thank you. Um, let's just move down on the table there. Um, commissioner hogan Thanks, um speaking of speed feedback signs still interested to learn more about the data on locus street Just saying that as a reminder to myself a lot of Follow-up by email afterwards I see obviously there's greater speed back so the one that's facing downhill is Pretty high up the hill and it's probably long forgotten by the time they're Going through more residential heavy zone In the park and stuff. Yeah, we did do some speed data collection there with tubes this year and can share that information with you That'd be great. Thanks Also, and the the storm the other day Reminded I had the hustle back for a meeting that I was tempted to I really wanted to go out with like a metal rake and clear out some Some storm drains, but just want to put a plug in again and try to get I don't know if that would be a good opportunity for High schoolers that are looking to put some volunteer hours on something to do Adopt a storm drain program Could be could be very useful for us I think I did see you city staff truck out sort of monitoring cleaning up some stuff as well, but it was uh There's a lot to deal with As you know, it brought you know, it brings out opportunities for improved drainage Localized flooding. Yeah Nothing further here. Thank you Thank you Commissioner Mutano Yeah, definitely kudos to all the city workers and everyone around here. That's actually doing the work that I know make this place work Um, yeah, I was kind of surprised uh Monday when I was walking down from lunch on north prospect street right at waterman there was quite a few inches of uh kind of Moving water and there was actually I'm kind of bubbling out of the storm drain So I'm glad to hear that there were no major issues As I mean move in at all all different all different parts of the city How was the pine street sort of section? I know a lot of times in the summer That's one place where it's actually difficult to get by on a bicycle on on a really rainy rainy day Or even after the rain So how is the new earthworks looking? In that section just I guess north of lakeside where there's been a lot of work this summer and fall Yes, new catch basins have been Installed and the road will get even more of an enhanced crown once the final Code of pavement is on top So drainage will be much better when the parkway is done as you know, we don't have the full curb in So that's not steering the rain to the drop-in. Let's the way you'd expect once the project is complete So it will be better. It's probably a mix of better in areas of not so good during the winter Either your first comment about north prospect or south prospect is an interesting one if I could just Jump in and say what you were noticing was A stormwater tank that's underneath the road that is there to protect storm water and not have The combined sewer system flushes quickly and so There is a large detention tank under south winewski and it did surcharge a bit During the last storm and we were monitoring it, but it did not damage the pavement as it had in the past We put in some pressure relief design elements and it worked as it should Fantastic and I guess kind of circling back to the parking item I understand. Well, we heard in the summer There was a lot of talk regarding the main street project and and about the way Parking was all gonna all gonna happen You know during that construction and then after after the fact phase Is that data going to be included in our discussions going into the winter? regarding well rate changes for On-street parking and and sort of more forward-looking changes that the commission is looking to include And is there a way that we could maybe see the data right kind of get get an overview of all the data that we have currently To you know make that best decision going forward We can certainly share the main street data and yes that is Information that we will be using as well as more recent counts to inform our decisions right on That was a lot of work, too Like that that was really really amazing to see And yeah, really kind of I guess integrating everything is really what I think would would be best as you know, we have this time And uh, yeah, there's certainly a lot of changes going on. So, uh, thank you to everyone that's been working on that It's really been fantastic Thank you. Commissioner Sears I don't have any communications Thank you Commissioner Fox um So one quick thing, um, I'm glad director Spencer brought up the when you ski burlington bridge project Just wanted to flag that the project is doing a travel survey right now. It's super quick. Um So just flagging that that is out there in the ether um And then yeah, this is a sort of a random thing, but I thought I would bring it up I'm wondering does the city have any like And maybe this is included in the engineering standards. I don't know but probably not um Like what the standards are for installing rapid flashing beacons at mid block crosswalks I don't know. Y'all know I live on north ave and um, you know, every other mid block crosswalk is a rapid flashing beacon And those ones that are not like uh at strong street by the board minifire station um You know when there are parked cars on the west side of north ave It's impossible for drivers to see a pedestrian at that crosswalk Um, so yeah, I don't know just thinking about About rapid flashing beacons Great, you should yes, you should put in a request. We do have a standards document that talks about warrants for our fbs And uh, we'd be happy to review the warrants for that crossing Oh, thank you Anything else commissioner fox? No, that's it Thanks. Thank you um, my My only comment Believe it or not Is thank you for changing the signs on south prospect street from speed cushion To um, I think they're known as speed bump or speed hump. Um, I appreciate that I think it's a little more accurate representation of what The driver might be encountering um So that's it and um, thanks to the crews for um Getting out the the salt this morning. It was like a sheet of ice and um, when I started walking the dog He'll make him back. I saw the Sidewalk clouds had gone through so grateful for um for the crews work on that And that's it. Um, so that closes commissioner communications and um Let's move to um Close the meeting adjourn the meeting Um Motion to adjourn second motion to adjourn second. All right. All in favor Hi. Hi All right, great 732 I think holly wants to