 Who are you here to meet today? His name is Jim. Jim, how old is Jim? He said he was 14. Do you meet with 14s often? No. You never meet with 14-year-olds? No, not at all. Have you had sex with a minor before? Nope. What was up with this one? What are you guys playing with this minor? He was going to come back to my apartment or my hotel room. We were going to talk for a little bit. I was just going to start asking him questions to see. Is that what you guys said you guys were going to do? Yeah. Nothing sexual? You had no plans of being sexual? I had no plans for sexual. Okay, you understand I have the book. I have every text message from start to finish. Okay. So was it sexual? Um, it might, it was probably going to end that way. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Do you know bringing a 14-year-old in your car that would be kidnapping? I... They can't consent to getting your car. Just so you know. But you're happily married. What are you doing? I am. I'm just curious. Let me pedophiles your car. 280. I'm a kid too fat. I'm going to do something that a lot of people won't do in regards to this movie. Now, I'm not giving a critique or review of the movie, which would be strange since I haven't seen the movie. I do plan on seeing the movie, but I want to show something. I want to let you all into a world that you will not probably have known or have even thought about. Matter of fact, it would make you uncomfortable to think about. We talk about this issue of child sex trafficking, but we really only talk about it from one vantage point. Now, before I go into where I'm going, I didn't realize that there was that big of a deal in terms of people who had a problem with one, this movie, and then really the reason why we're going to kind of try to drill down into this issue. There is pushback from people who you just... Well, I wouldn't say that you wouldn't think that they would, but there shouldn't be any pushback whatsoever regarding this. There should be none whatsoever. And so I would say this, two things. One, if you have not seen the movie or made plans, go see the movie. Go see the movie. Go see the movie. As a matter of fact, if you don't know what the movie is about, maybe you haven't. But here's a trailer. Here's a part of the trailer for that movie. It is the fastest growing international crime network that the world has ever seen. It has already passed the illegal arms trade, and soon it's going to pass the drug trade. As you can sell a bag of cocaine one time for the child, five to ten times a day. God's children are not for sale. I like what he said that God's children are not for sale. This is for the movie, The Sound of Freedom. It's getting a lot of buzz. As a matter of fact, it's getting a lot of buzz from people who haven't even seen the movie or who don't want others to see the movie. And there is a reason why. I'll talk about the reason why on the other side, but some of you all have seen this interview that was done by, I think it's Jesse Waters on Fox with one of the men that's involved with the show. And so let me let you listen to him and then we'll go to someone else who has a differing view on this. Why is the media hating this movie? You know, I can't understand it. The film was made, produced, written like five years, six years ago, way before anyone heard the name QAnon. I still don't even know what QAnon is. In the meantime, they're trying to connect it to some conspiracy when in fact, like you said, this is a true story. These are real kids. I mean, these kids are my friends. They're young adults now. The ones that were rescued. They're going to come out soon and tell their story. It's going to be very awkward when the mainstream media comes after these kids next. And it causes them of being part of some conspiracy when in fact they were rescued from a life of rape. Now, before we go back to it, one of the things that's happening is there are people that are saying that there's QAnon or that there are people that are connected with QAnon that are involved in this, in this video. I don't know that to be the case or not. I do find it strange though that they are always quick. Certain people, certain folks on the left, tend to be pretty quick on pulling the trigger on what is a conspiracy or having conspiracy theories. When someone on the right has a conspiracy theory, they shoot them down as though it's absolute nonsense. But this, the only reason why this movie is getting steamed, the only reason why this movie is being pushed is to bring folks into this whole little QAnon registry and so forth. And something have to do with Jim Cavizel also who is the main actor that he is supportive of this. I don't know that to be the case. And the truth be told, honestly, in regards to this, I really could care less and you should also. It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen in the media perhaps. I mean, this publication says the sound of freedom is a superhero movie for dads with brain worms and that it fetishizes the torture of its child victims. Does that what the movie does? It absolutely does not do that. It tells a story based in truth. And, you know, what I think is happening, Jesse, I think that the left and these media outlets, they don't want to have a discussion that this film is going to compel. A discussion. Now, what he's what he's saying is that there it's motivating people that might have a desire to kind of be vigilantes and so forth, who are maybe sick and tired of where the country is going. Is there some of that? Yeah, there's going to be some folks that are sick and tired of the way this country is going and this adds to it because this country is going in a way that no one ever would have imagined, especially when you think about how kids are being treated. These are folks. These are people who cannot defend themselves. These are people who don't know enough to defend themselves, but yet and still they are fair game for the voters out there. And there are people who are making money off of them. There are people who are making this into sport into how we're going to deal with them. There's going to be a price to pay at some point in time in the future. I'm not sure exactly what it's going to look like. Nor does anyone else. But there's going to be a price to pay. Now I'm not even talking about the price we're going to pay at the hands of God. That part should scare everyone. But in terms of what's going to happen with him, because these children that we're messing over, these children that we're allowed to be victimized, they're going to grow up. Now, what state they're going to be when they grow up? Who knows? Who knows how much anger they're going to have, how much rage, how much depression, how much confusion. If you think that people have lost their minds today, what about the kids that we're literally experimenting on? How are they going to be in the future? But he makes a point here, and I'm going to play this, and this point I think he has a lot of things right on this point that he's getting ready to make. Discussion about why 85,000 children showed up unaccompanied at the border and got released into the interior of a country that is the highest consuming country for child exploitation material on the planet. They don't want to talk about why the same publications are pushing an agenda to change the word pedophile to minor attracted persons in order to normalize sexual activity with children. I think that's what they're trying to avoid, and they know this film's going to shine a light on all of the things, all the atrocities happening at children, and so they have to discredit it by lying about it. And I agree with that. I agree. Listen, there are eight. We talk about this that there were 85,000 unaccompanied minors who showed up. Why? Now, I know here in America, we want to think that we're the only ones that love our children. We know people in Mexico, people in Guatemala, people in Venezuela, people in Peru, people in El Salvador, they love their children as well. And so just as much as we would think it'd be unfathomable for us to let our children go unaccompanied on a thousand miles, Mexico is not a small country, especially if you're going to walk it. It's not a small country to trek, and so would you let your child go on this dangerous trek in hopes of living in America? And oh, by the way, the guy that's going to let you take your children there is going to be some guy who's a known drug dealer, some guy who's not a bad, who's not a good guy. Do you think parents are voluntarily signing up for that? They are not. And I'm going to tell you how I know some of this stuff in just a little bit. But the fact of the matter is there's this pushback. And the pushback, whenever you bring up anything about protecting children, there are certain people, certain elements of our society that don't want you to think about protecting children. Because if we protect them over here, well, we've got to protect them over there, which means we need to protect their sexuality or disturbing their sexuality. And again, that goes against an extreme agenda to take these children's life away. And I mean to take their life away, life as they know it, or as any other healthy adult would have known it because they didn't have the experience of growing up as children. They were experimental. They were lab rats for people to figure out their own sexual pleasures. And I do mean they are lab rats for someone else's sexual pleasure, their own gratification. We'll talk about that more in just a little bit. But you probably have heard this interview that was put up by on CNN with Abby Phillips. I'll talk about her just a little bit as well. But she brings on a person who is espousing himself a conspiracy about the movie. And you seem pretty familiar with him because he doesn't really hide his association with this real wild plot that involves drinking the blood of children and things like that. No, he doesn't hide it at all. And you have a lot of people who are in this world of QAnon who say, oh, they don't know what that is. They never heard of it. They're just asking questions. With somebody like Jim Caviesal, he is openly embracing it. He's openly using its catchphrases and its concepts. He's speaking at QAnon conventions. And this film is being marketed to either specific QAnon believers or to people who believe all of the same tenets as QAnon. Let me ask you guys a question. Especially those that have gone to watch it or those that are going to watch it have made plans to watch it. Are any of you all that you know of members of QAnon? I plan on watching. I'm not a member of QAnon. No one else I know is a member of QAnon. And it's almost as though QAnon is this great big boogeyman. It's a small group of people, not very large, but they make it out to be that they are in this grand conspiratorial scheme to take over the world, to overthrow the government and so forth, which is not true at all. Yeah, the QAnon, QAnon is a boogeyman, but it's rallying people. But a lot of folks that are going to watch it have no idea who QAnon is. Nor could care less because of the point that they are speaking of. QAnon is not the issue. The issue is and are these children. But claim they don't know what it is. And the sound of freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking. But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of truth that feeds the QAnon conspiracy theory. Now I want you to hear what she's saying. There's a kernel of truth to what's happening here. I think the main thing is not that big a deal. That's the vibe you have to get from her. She said it's a kernel of truth. Listen to where they're going. Tell us how those two things work together. Sure. And the most durable and the most believable conspiracy theories are not entirely false. There's something in them that is true and the rest of it is false. But the believers point to the one true thing and they say, oh, you don't believe that this particular thing is true. In terms of child trafficking, we know trafficking is real. We know it has real victims. No one is denying that. But these films are created out of moral panics. They're created out of bogus statistics. They're created out of fear. And it was something like sound of freedom. It specifically is looking at QAnon concepts of these child trafficking rings that are run by the high level elites. And only people like Tim Ballard and only people like Jim Caviesel. And by extension, only people like the ticket buyer can help bring these trafficking rings down. So there's a very participatory element. You're not just going to see a movie, you're just killing two hours on a hot day. You are helping bring down these pedophile rings and save children. Now it's not true, but it's a very comforting and it's a very warm feeling to have. The irony is that if you watch CNN or a lot of mainstream media outlets, they will put up other films that are designed to bring about awareness and that by watching it, you can help stamp out, let's say, for example, racism. You can help stamp out gender dysphoria. You can help stamp out whatever just by watching the movie. But now there's a movie that is bringing a attention to an actual legitimate cause. Something that we know is a problem and we know these people are defenseless. That's a problem. And then if you notice, he mentioned these bogus statistics. You know the problem with saying that to some degree he has a point about calling them bogus statistics. You know why? Because there's just so much of it. We don't know how many children are being trafficked. We don't have a full handle on all we do know is that it is a lot. That's the point. There's a lot of children that are being affected, not just here in America. Again, we're talking about 85,000 children on a company that come here. And we don't know where they're coming from, where they're headed to. We're going to talk about this network that has been set up. If you think that this is just something that's just happening. Now some of this isn't is unsophisticated, but some of this also is sophisticated. And it's not just happening here. But as he said, that we are this country and other Western countries as well. That means Canada. That means the UK. But definitely America. We are the largest consumer of child porn and children who are trafficked sexually without question. The gentleman that you saw in the in the early part of in the intro, the guy that was going to meet the kid, the 14 year old. That happens a lot. That happens a lot. I'll tell you how I know in just a little bit. But this woman, Abby Phillips, there was a time when you first heard of her. She became even more famous because of President Trump. She asked a question and then Trump excoriated her. And I thought at the time that that actually Trump went a little bit too far. What a stupid question that is. What a stupid question. But I watch you a lot. You ask a lot of stupid questions. I no longer have a problem with that. I no longer have a problem with that because where she has positioned herself. She is no ally for one America. But obviously, even for the quiescent, because she she could choose a line of questioning or just simply quit. Someone would hire her. But to make yourself a part of what's happening here. And by the way, guys, it's not just CNN. And oh, by the way, this is not just happening now. As he said, this movie was put together in the works over five years ago or about five years ago. I didn't know that, which is amazing. It's one of those independent films, not from a major production house. And when you look at just the video, the quality of it, pretty good. Pretty top notch. So amen to that. Glad that the awareness comes out and comes out in a quality fashion. But CNN reporting on this isn't there. They're not the first to do so. They're not the first to do so. As a matter of fact, here is a an interview on MSNBC of all people. Some two, two years ago. But perhaps no issue is more important than the conspiratorial thinking that has led many otherwise well meaning Americans to raise awareness about child sex trafficking epidemic that simply does not exist. Now, as you said, she does, she's raising awareness of a child sex epidemic, a child sex trafficking epidemic that simply does not exist. That was her words. Joining us now staff writer at the Atlantic, Caitlin Tiffany. So Caitlin, tell us first of all about the conspiracy that's being pushed here. Yeah, so this is sort of looking at the long tail of some really vivid conspiracy theories that people probably heard a lot about last summer. But it's become sort of a popular piece of folklore now that there's several hundred thousand children going missing in the United States every year. That circulated as fact, mostly on social media. Those kinds of things where people were really fervently believing and promoting this idea that there is this epidemic of child sex trafficking. But according to them, I guess this is no epidemic. There's no epidemic. This is this is all made up. This is what it really is is trash. And I'm going to say something just a little bit. I want to get these things out of the way. But this is this is without question just trash. Now this was two years ago. And children vanishing in the United States and that, you know, the government or the media is either complicit in some way or just willfully overlooking it or paying more attention to other things like the pandemic. Or I also heard a lot about the media paying attention to the Black Lives Matter movement instead of the missing children. All over the country. Well-meaning Americans are convinced. Now what I want to do is I'm going to let I'm going to play a little bit of this excerpt from her. But you ever wonder why maybe CNN might not want you to see what was happening. This is because could it could it possibly be could it possibly be that one of their friends, one of their buddies, one of their executives, this particular gentleman here. Let's if I can put this on the screen. This gentleman here was indicted former CNN producer John Griffiths and sentenced to 19 years for trying to lure a child in. Maybe that has something to do with the fact that CNN is against it. And other people that are partnered with him may maybe because you haven't heard a peep from them about him. That hadn't happened. But let's finish letting her read part of this Atlantic article that human trafficking. Human trafficking and specifically child sex trafficking is happening right in their backyard or at any rate no farther away than the nearest mall parking lot. Of course, child sex trafficking does happen and it is horrible. The crime is a serious concern of human rights organizations and governments all over the world. Statistically, however, it is hard to get a handle on the data get a handle on the data often misleading when they exist at all. Whatever the incidents, sex trafficking does not involve Tom Hanks or hundreds of thousands of children. So it's not a big problem. It's not a big problem and does not involve hundreds of thousands of children. Well, you're right. It does not involve hundreds of thousands of children. It involves millions of children. Somewhere between two to three million globally. So a lot of people. That's a lot of people. And they want to minimize this. Now, I want you to do me a favor. I want you to do me a favor. Now, the likelihood is that I can see YouTube doing something with this particular video, making it not rated or what have you for for the average audience. I can, which is fine that this particular video would be to monetize, which is which is fine. But I want you to do me a favor because I want people to hear what I'm going to say in just a little bit. I want people to hear what I'm getting ready to say the part that you don't know about the part that they don't speak about. I want people to hear this. So do me a favor. Guys know I don't ask this very often, but I would love for you all. There's over 400 people right now that are that are watching it on the different channels and so forth. I want you all to push like because I want them to be forced to push that. It's difficult to hear what I'm going to say about this in just a little bit. But do me a favor. Push this out by pushing by hitting the like button for the algorithm. Again, I don't normally do this, but this is one of these moments where I think it's I think it's necessary. So that being the case, they're saying that it's not that big of a deal that the government is not complicit or the government has not turned a deaf ear or blind eye to it looked away. That's a hard sell to make when just recently and I mean a couple of weeks ago, there was a U.S. House committee dealing with just this a Biden official from Health and Human Services who was tasked to go down to the border to see about this crisis. She becomes a whistleblower and listen to her testimony since this is not an epidemic. 85,000 that are missing. Today, children will work overnight shifts at slaughterhouses, factories, restaurants to pay their debts to smugglers and traffickers. Today, children will be sold for sex. Today, children will call a hotline to report they are being abused, neglected and trafficked, and we don't know if they're going to get the help they need. For nearly a decade, unaccompanied children have been suffering in the shadows when I volunteered to help the Biden administration with the crisis at the southern border. As part of Operation Artemis, I was deployed to the Pomona Fairplex Emergency Intake Site in California to help HHS, Office of Refugee Resettlement, reunite children with sponsors in the United States. I thought I was going to help place children in loving homes. Instead, I discovered that children are being trafficked through a sophisticated network that begins with recruiting in home country, smuggling to the U.S. border, and ends when ORR delivers a child to a sponsor. Some sponsors are criminals and traffickers and members of transnational criminal organizations. Some sponsors view children as commodities and assets to be used for earning income. This is why we are witnessing an explosion of labor trafficking. Now, whether it's intentional or not, it could be argued that the United States government has become the middleman in a large-scale, multi-billion-dollar child trafficking operation that is run by bad actors seeking to profit off of the lives of children. Now, I don't know if you caught what she said, but what's happening is these children are being brought up. Now, remember, and I misspoke, I said 85,000 unaccompanied minors. No, I'm sorry, I misspoke, it's worse. 85,000 that are missing unaccompanied minors. There are far more unaccompanied minors that have come, but that's that many that are missing. How it happens is this, when a person comes into the country, because what we need to do actually is to do something with the border, because if you make a market, if you create a market and what America has done because of its border situation and being lied on crime in some areas, you have made, you have laid a trap, you have lined the streets with honey so that the bees can attack. In other words, we have made a market for these children. They can come into the country, and then when they come into the country, they're here illegally, but because they're children, and we care so much about the children, that we will have these sponsors who are set up. Sponsors in many cases, in most cases, tend to be people who have nefarious background. This is a sophisticated operation. And so what ends up happening is why she said the United States government become the, remember, this is a Biden, well, she's probably a former Biden official, but this is a Biden official who's saying that the federal government is allowing these people to become middlemen or sponsors thereby making the United States a middleman. In other words, here the trafficker brings this child in. The child is placed in the United States government's care and then sent away to one of these sponsors. In many cases, a sponsor is a sponsor for multiple children. And we know this and we're not doing anything about it. How in the world can this guy be a sponsor of this child, that child, that child, when clearly this child doesn't know them? And what's happening is, and I don't know this, I didn't know this at first, but some of these folks that may come from places like Guatemala who may have a Mayan dialect and cannot speak Spanish with the others. And so here you've got a kid that can't even communicate with the people that are trying to help them to cry out and tell them that something bad is happening. Why don't people care? Because people are commodities. One, if it gets out, it makes the government look bad. Well, we should look bad, but what we ought to do is, because remember, we had a problem if you put pictures that were in the Obama era, put them in the Trump era, blamed Trump for having these kids caged in houses. Well, you know what's worse than that? Having kids sold on the streets for sex, having them trafficked. It's as though no one is actually thinking, how does a kid from Guatemala end up in America in some sort of way find himself or herself across the ocean? They didn't swim to China. They didn't swim to Europe. They didn't swim to Asia. Someone took them there because, again, this trafficking is big business. And as he said, there are all these people who you can sell. You can sell some drugs. You can sell some dope once it's smoked up, once it's snorted. That's it. But with a child, they are reusable commodities to these people. And for someone to think that this isn't an ongoing epidemic, how many times do we see these things where the local government, and I'll talk about the local government in a second, but the local government is having these stings. And every time the local government puts out these little stings to catch these sex traffickers, they always net people. Just like this one. More than 100 people in handcuffs accused of preying on women and minors forced into the sex trade. The undercover bust comes on the heels of a newly created human trafficking squad at the Hillsborough Sheriff's Office. That's where Fox 13's Erin Mesmer is forced right now. And it sounds like maybe these operations are paying off. Yeah. And Sheriff Chad Chronister says undercover detectives actually made contact with more than 1,000 people, potential Johns, people who may have participated in this sex trade. And many of them declined to come to Hillsborough County because they knew how successful these stings have been. The undercover sting dubbed Operation Roundup netted at least 125 men accused of exploiting and preying on minors and adults for sex. Those arrested include a Hillsborough public school teacher and a pastor from Tampa. That's what's happening. Now, can I just tell you something? Let's just put this on the screen. I want you to see this. In Ecclesiastes 3, 16 says, Furthermore, I have seen under the sun that the place of justice, there is wickedness. In the place of justice, there is wickedness. Say it again. In the place of justice, there is wickedness. And in the place of righteousness, there is wickedness. Does that not describe the state of our country as truth be told, the state of the world? It's always been that children have been used and monopolized and so forth and taken advantage of. But if there's ever a place that it should be stopped, or at least there should be a concerted effort to stop it, it should be here in America, but it's not. Now, I asked you to push the like button and push it up because of what I'm getting ready to say. Because, Corey, what makes you an expert or an authority on this? Have you ever been trafficked? No. No. Corey, have you ever met a child that's been trafficked? No. Have you come in contact with one? Maybe you didn't know, but you've come in contact with a child that's been trafficked. Not that I know of. I'm sure I've passed one on the street some sort of way, but no. Well then Corey, why are you talking about this? Because of where I was. Remember, where I was, there were some guys that just messed up, but then there were some guys that truly deserved to be in prison. And I mean for life. Anyone who messes up, anyone who sins, anyone who finds himself at the bottom of the barrel, they can be redeemed by God. There's nobody, there's no soul that God can't touch, that can't afflict, that he can't do anything, he can't bring them, there's no one. However, let's just be honest, there are a lot of people who have no desire to change. One of the fastest growing segments of offenders in prison, both state and federal, are sex offenders. As a matter of fact, I think it's the third largest group, the number three group in the federal bureau of prisons of offenders are sex offenders. That being the case, you need to also understand that there are people that have been charged with other crimes who don't, it's not based on sex offence. You need to understand that. There are kids, there are people that are there who may have been arrested on a drug charge but also have a sex offence history or may have been caught with something else, but because let's say it was the state, the state picked it up on they found drugs and they may have found some, they may have found some underage children. That happens a lot. I can't tell you how often it happens and the sex offence charge doesn't stick. The reason why, because when it goes fast, if the feds decide to pick it up, the feds are going to try to pick up the one thing that's the easiest, oftentimes it's easy. If you get caught with some illegal drug, that's it. There really is not a whole lot of wiggle room for you. There is beginning to be more wiggle room for the sex offence if they're caught with, let's say an underage child. You can talk your way out of that in the feds rather than having to take their time to prosecute that. This is the easier one. So there are a lot of people that are there on drug offence charges or weapons charges who are sex offenders. There are those who are there for a second time, a third time, a fourth time, who previously had a sex offence. This is so serious. I can't tell you how many people that I've come across who are literal animals. There are some men there that really wanted to get the help they needed. They are there. But what's happening is we're housing these people and we're putting them in a society where there's other sex offenders and they don't even grieve the crime that they committed. They don't even find it a problem because there's other people to say, hey, yeah, they gave us way too much time. All it was was a few pictures. Well, first of all, even if it were a few images, a few pictures, it wasn't a cartoon picture. This was someone's actual child that you have pictures of or you have videos of and you're selling it. The reason why this is happening because you as the sex offender person, this housing or buying child porn, you have created a market and someone's got to take care of that market. Someone's got to supply that market. Oh, by the way, while we're taking pictures of them, we're taking pictures of them in the act with someone else who we're also selling to. So they're getting an extra use from these children. Guys, this is what is happening. It is a, as he says, the fastest growing illegal trade in the world. It's growing and pretty soon it's going to pass the drug trade. Why? Because people have these sexual fetuses that must be met and there's always going to be someone there that's going to be ready, who at ready will enable to supply it as long as you've got the money. You catch one of these kids, they don't know what to do. The kids, you know how hard it is to get a kid to be able to tell on the perpetrator to identify the perpetrator satisfactor to what that person can be prosecuted, even if the person is here in the country. There are people that I know personally in prison who had children in their basement, who had kids locked up, who had kids on their payroll. I couldn't tell you how many times other men have told me, I've seen it before, where a guy pulls up in his car, he's selling something, he's got a 13 year old with him, a 14 year old with him, boy or girl. I had an occasion to speak with a young man who wanted to put his, he professed to have faith in Christ and he asked me, Corey, he said, listen, would you mind mentoring me? And so I did and so we got to talk it. And he said to me, well I said to him, why don't you parents think about this? And he mentioned about things that he had growing in his life that he was molested by someone, turned out to end up being his father. But what he told me was that his parents, his family didn't think that he was a monster. Well, first of all, the father part, that's a whole other thing because we can see what happens. Bad parenting can lead people down the road to doing some bad things. But I asked him, I said, so you mean to tell me you don't think that you're a monster? He said, no, I don't think so. I said, why not? He said, I think I just, I messed up. I made a mistake. You were going to meet a woman, allegedly a woman. That part is true because I saw his paperwork. Going to look at a woman, visit a woman, out of state. And you and her concocted it now, who came up with this plan? But the plan was for you or for her to bring her 12 year old daughter with her. By the way, there are, this turned out to be the feds on a sting, but there are women who have done some real women, not some bogus name on online, but there's real women who have also agreed to sell their children. There are men in prison who I know who bought the children. There was one man, I'll never forget, and I'll go back to this other man, but there's one man who, now we're at Beaumont. Beaumont is pretty rough. They got him off of that compound, I mean within seconds. Well, not seconds, but minutes. Because an article came out about him. We thought that he was just a crooked cop. No, he was not a crooked cop. He worked for immigration. He was a, some sort of deputy official, someone with a gun who's also out there, one of the immigration officials. And what happened was, coming to find out, he was trafficking kids. Well, they don't play that fair. Messing with the children, and so once the word came out that that was him, he had to leave, and I mean within minutes. And I mean the entire compound, I would say the entire compound, but a lot of men were looking for him because of the grossness of what he was doing. He had his own little personal harem of 12-year-olds, 13-year-olds, 14-year-olds. I think it was like five, six, or seven, I can't remember, but also selling them, having them to stay at this house, having them stay at that house and moving them around. There's some organization to this. Now, going back to this young man, I asked him, I said, you don't think you're a monster? He said, no, I just, I said, well, let me ask you a question. Let's say you are an older man and you've got a child, and someone was to take advantage of your 12-year-old daughter. Would you consider that person to be a monster? I would. Let's just be honest. You were, if not still are, a monster. And he was one of the better ones. He was one of the ones that wanted to get help. He was one of the ones, I can tell you this also, in the BOP, as far as that crime is concerned, there's not a lot of help for it. Now, they may want to help them, or they make them go through treatment afterwards, and they do have sex-affinited treatment programs in the BOP, but they are weak, they're light, and they're not mandated. That's the problem. That's the problem. And so this little network that this lady was talking about, I've heard and seen these networks. There are people in prison right now. They have these beauty contests. In the Bureau of Prison, it's not always enforced. They're not allowed to have either certain magazines or no magazines at all. Why? You would want to know. I don't mean porn. No, you're not allowed to have porn in the BOP at all. Now, it makes its way in there. But no, they're not allowed to have good housekeeping. They're not allowed to have time or life or sports illustrated. They're not allowed to have any magazines. Why? Because what comes with a magazine? They're going to be advertisements. And inevitably, in those advertisements, there are going to be children, pictures of children. They are not allowed to have pictures of children in magazines or newspapers. And so you would see these raids in the prison, and you think they're going to bust somebody with some drugs or some weapons, some cell phones, or some hooch, legal liquor. No, they're going to bust these guys who are sex offenders to their rooms and go through their stuff and make sure that they don't have any material like that. I mean, tell me, this guy got caught with a time magazine, a life magazine, a TV guy, and now he's going, yeah, because what they're doing, they're conducting these pictures and they are fantasizing of these children and they're selling these pictures. There's some wicked people. Here's the danger. Here's the problem, guys. Here is the problem. Here is the big problem that no one is talking about. These men are getting out. At some point in time, they all don't have licenses. Some might have 10 years. Some might have 15 years. Some might have 20 years. Some didn't touch. All they did was have images. Some did touch. Some tried to traffic. Some took pictures. This is what's happening. There is a monstrous mentality that is being developed, and I've seen the people who, not only the people who were perpetrators, I mean the people who were buyers, the people that were the customers of these children, the customers of these videos, the customers of these pictures. I've also seen the people who were bringing them in, bringing them across the border. And what we're not doing with this country is here you've got a man, a man who's got four kids with him. By the way, none of the kids look alike. This is just routine. And so that's my child. That's my daughter. That's my son. That's my cousin. And we let them go. Because we don't care. Why don't we care? Because again, it's what the man said earlier. This country has an appetite for harming children. We've got an appetite for harming children, and no one seems to care. As a matter of fact, if you say anything, they're going to label you as though you're the one that's wrong. They're going to label you. And the reason why this is important, guys, is because you need to be as often as you possibly can to be a voice, a loud voice. If a grown person wants to do something to everybody, knock yourself out. You're wrong for it. If a grown person wants to engage in homosexuality, knock yourself out. You're wrong for it, and God will deal with you. But if a grown person wants to promote it amongst children, no. There is where the problem comes in. Jesus makes a statement. He says that he wants to become him because such is the king of heaven. And he says it would be better for that person if a millstone were hung around his neck and were thrown into the sea than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble. Is that causing them to stumble? I think so. I think so. Now, are there some sex offenders who deserve, I shouldn't say deserve, but who will do okay with getting a second chance? There are. There absolutely are. But are there also some that should never see the light of day? They are. There are a bunch of those. If in prison, you still are doing the very same thing that you did while you were there. In prison, you will find those that are there on a white collar crime, those on a sex offense crime, those on a drug offense crime. Oftentimes, you'll see people who were there for a particular charge engaging in the same activity behind bars. Here's what I mean. Someone who was there on a white collar crime, they may start their guys who were investment professionals who are now selling their understanding of investments to other inmates, teaching them how to invest and so forth, and charging them. I'm not supposed to do that. Why wouldn't you teach people how to invest and so forth? I said, I'm not. Why? I'm not going to be involved in the very thing that brought me here. There were those there that were there for a drug offense charge and they were selling products. Might be cell phones. Might be cigarettes. Might be a hooch. Might be weed. So you're doing the exact same thing, the exact same thing that you did to get you there while you're there. No remorse. As a matter of fact, what's happening is you're becoming more hardened and you become more belligerent and more emboldened to do the exact same thing. You're not going to cut the switch off as soon as you walk out that door. And then there are those who are there on a sex offense charge who are engaged in the same thing. They'll get someone to send them some porn in and they'll sell it. You mean tell me whether it's child porn that they're selling or whether it's just traditional porn. The same thing. You want to engage in what brought you here. Well, it's different. No, it's not. No, it's not. And all you're doing is feeding your sexual fantasy or sexual desire so that when you go out, if you weren't a monster when you came in, you certain will be when you go out. People will say, Corey, we shouldn't get it. I don't think I think you should stick to the scriptures and never warn people about these false teachers because God will take care of them. And the analogy that I always use would be a sex offender. Some of you have children, grandchildren, nieces, nephews, and you want to know that if you take your child to the park or to this water park or what have you, or to this school, that there won't be sex offenders there probably looking at them. Well, how do you know? Do we just say, hey, there are sex offenders in this city? Where there's in this area, Dallas, there is 7 million plus people in the metropolitan area. So to tell me that there are sex offenders here, how do I know? What does that do for me? There are people that are trafficking people. How do I know? How do I know that that's the case? Or how do I know where they are? You might as well tell me. You might as well not even tell me if I don't know where they are. So what do we do? We not only tell you that there are these criminal elements here and these criminals are here. We tell you, one, who they are. Two, what they look like. And three, where they live. Some will say that that might be a little bit of overreach and now the person is punished forever. There are some that we probably should let up on them after a while. There are some. The reason for the overreach is because there are some that never should because sex offenders, now what we're finding out is the recidivism rate amongst them is increasing. And no wonder, because you did not give them treatment in the state facilities or the federal facilities. All you did was manage them. All you did was house and keep them under control. And so now you've got sex crazed people who are coming out. Oh, by the way, the interesting thing is some of the very same things that were used to chemically castrate some of these male sex offenders are now being used on our children if a boy decides he wants to be a girl. The irony of that is amazing. You might have someone who was participating in the sex trade, exploiting these children who from the courts has agreed to become chemically castrated. And then the chance is that one of these kids or some other kid will also be chemically castrated because of this guy's former fetish. This is the kind of country, the kind of world that we live in. And so when someone says or they want to discourage folks from watching this movie, go watch this movie. Buy 10 tickets for people that you don't know. Or take your cousins, take your friends, take whomever. People need to be aware of this. People need to be aware of the kind of people and here's what's crazy. It's not just men. I mentioned about a man who had some kids chained in his basement. Well, I just knew him because this was a male prison. His wife is also in prison at a female prison because she was also... she was bringing them in. She was bringing them in. He was using them and then redistributing them. This is happening, guys. This is not some made-up thing and so whatever the number is, whatever that number is, I'm afraid that the number that we think it is is undercounting. But we've got a country, though. We've got people who will tell you that it's not that bad. This is part of some kind of conspiracy. It's not. It's not a conspiracy. This is legitimate. This is true. Whatever your worst fears are, if this is one of them, it's here. It's been realized. It's happening. These people, and again, in prison you can work your way down from different custody levels and then make your way from a bad prison to a good prison by you just doing things the right way, staying out of trouble and so forth. So I ended up getting sent to what you would call a good prison. Just a sweet yard. This particular sweet yard was here in the DFW area. It is Siegelville. Siegelville is now... It used to be a real laid-back sweet yard and it's a low custody. They don't have sex offenders at the camp. So that's one of the good things because in many cases, most cases of camps don't have fences and so you don't want a sex offender who's serving five or eight more years being able to walk off. But at this low, this particular low at Siegelville is also home to a sex offender treatment program. So it's real laid back. You've got a lot of transgender people with sex offenders there for their treatment. The treatment is bogus. Let me just tell you that again. The treatment is bogus. It's weak. It does not work at all. I don't care what some official might tell you. I know for a fact that the men that are going through it, it's a joke to them. They've got workbooks to complete. They go spend a few minutes, an hour or so a week with this therapist who is only coddling who is only affirming them telling them it's okay. Remember, this is the federal government that will allow you to go through a sex change on their diet. Now, not the actual surgery, but we've got to go through the consultations and get the pills and so forth. And in some cases, I don't know if it's happened yet, but if you had started it, then I think if I'm not correct, if I'm not mistaken, the federal government can be forced to finish the program, finish the surgery. And I left, but that's this government. That's this government. Now, it's bad for a sex offender in prison, especially depending on what prison, but even at this prison that was a sex offender prison, a sex offender treatment prison, they would still be beaten. They would still be hurt. Being a sex offender in prison is a hard life even at a place where there is a large portion of the population are sex offenders. Some places, they don't get to make it. They don't. It's hard for them. Some would say rightly so. Now, I had my own little program. I had my own little program at Beaumont and this was this because when I got there, they had maybe two or three, it was a small number of sex offenders, maybe two or three on the entire yard. They started sending more and more of them in, more and more. There were some that would use different religions as kind of a way to kind of protect themselves. If you go to prison and you claim to be, you want to be a Muslim and you take the prayer, they give you a hat and your rug, then as far as they're concerned, everything that you've done in the past is gone away with, you're now part of the group, you're now part of the clan, and you're off limits. Even if they weren't really true, but they were just hiding, that happens. People go to prison and hide now. What would happen is if you were found out that you weren't that and you were just hiding, then they would deal with you. My outlook was somewhat similar that is if a person is truly repentant and wants to be helped and be dealt with by Christ, well then I got you back. I got you back. I was blessed, I would say I was blessed to get a little bit of favor, I had some favor there on the yards with all the people. I wouldn't care if he was in a white gang, if he was in a black gang, a Hispanic gang, as brother cord, because if they know that you're serious and you're legitimate and you're trying to help people, well then they will treat you as such. Now if you're on some junk, if you're on some crap, they will fight because they see you every day. You can't hide in prison. You really cannot. What you are will come out and so I said treat all of the sex offenders that are at church, that are trying, treat them like they're with me. In prison that means that's part of my group, that's part of my clan. And so the Bloods, and this was really funny, this is how God can work. If you are really trying to serve God and grow, you had the Bloods, you had Crips, you had certain Mexican groups, not all because they hated them too, but to protect them for the sake of the other Christian brothers. Now, here's the deal. If you got caught doing something, if you got caught acting in a certain way, what have you, you're through. Hey, cord, you know so and so and so and so this thing. What? And so what we do, we go talk to this guy. Hey, what's happening? Because what it did was it risked the entire community and the yard. Because if someone, if this guy's acting up, doing something, behaving in a certain way, and then they go and do something to him or to me or someone else, where you got these other guys that are, got a lot of guys that are ready to fight, now it can become an explosive situation. So we had to make sure that if you're serious, you're going to be serious. If not, myself or brother Lexa, hey listen, fine, you on your own. There were people that were waiting here, us say, hey, he's not with us. He's not with us. And we had to do it an awful lot. He's not with us. I don't care what he's not with us. We're not protecting them. We're not, we're not putting them out there. But he's not with us. Because he got caught with some porn. He got caught trying to send letters to some kids. There are guys that are there sending letters to kids. Still. Still. No, you're not with us. Do I think that some of the treatment that people can get is harsh? Sure. Now, you are allowed to send how you want to send. You're allowed to do what you want to. What you're not allowed to do is to complain about the consequence that come with it. Sometimes the consequences, you might get some mercy. Sometimes the consequences are you might get killed. Sometimes the consequences are somewhere in between. And so if you find yourself getting some mercy, and this just goes for everybody, whatever your sin is or was, and you get mercy with and praise God. But if you get killed as a result of it, you don't have the right, I don't care what it is to say, well, I didn't deserve to die. I didn't deserve to lose my arm. I didn't deserve to lose it. No. Whatever comes your way because of your sin, you have that coming. I would never complain about my sin and why I'm in prison. But there are people in prison. This is one of the first tell-tale signs about these people who have done these particular crimes and then complained about the harshness of their sentence. My point was I didn't deal with you. I didn't fool with you. My idea was not that bad. Well, then I'm sorry, I can't deal with you because there's nothing about you that's repenting. And you are the kind of person that will get a yard riot started because you'll over here mess with porn and we're sitting trying to help you out. There are a lot of people there. Let me just say it again, guys. A lot of sick people who aren't getting help. I don't know what program we need to establish. I just don't know. I think one of the things that we're going to have is, guys, we're going to have a lot of people who are going to be released, who are sick, and who will never get better. Let that sink in for a second. There are a lot of people who are sick, who will be released, sick, and will never, ever, ever get better. What do you do with them? I think there needs to be some harshness to it. The Bible says this delayed punishment that we're used to doing around here, he says because, you've heard me pull the Scripture before, because the sentence against an evil deed is not executed quickly, therefore the hearts of the sons of men among them are given fully to do evil. You take your time with the crime or with dealing with the criminal, then what are they going to do? Their heart is going to grow coarse, callous even more so, and then they will do even more so, because they've grown that way. You're building an even greater monster. You think that because he's 5'2", 130 pounds, that he can't hurt. Yes, he can. He will spend his money to pay for that child and someone else with a gun or someone else bigger who can hurt that child or deliver that child to him. Now you can order a child. Now you can have a meet or not necessarily to your house, but meet us over at this hotel. If you want to push government to spend money anywhere, have them push money and resources there. I mentioned earlier about the state and federal resources. The problem with the states is the states don't have enough of the resources and the network to keep up with this. You're in Kentucky. Here's the sex ring that comes through. If they're local, you can, but what if the sex ring is passing through or it's bigger? You can't get your hands on all of the tentacles. The federal government can, but as we see right now, our federal government isn't as interested as they ought to be. And so if you want to have an issue that you need to be pushing for, whoever you're going to be voting for next year, that should be the main issue for these kids who can't support themselves. So about this movie, go watch it. But even after this movie, be vigilant. You're going to see, I promise you, you're going to see kids out there who do not belong with the person that they're with. Be proactive because the one thing they won't do is they won't fight you over that kid in the middle of the streets. That won't happen. That's too much of a risk because while this kid is valuable, he's not so valuable to where it will upset the apple cart and endanger the rest of the system. Take pictures. Take videos. Report this stuff. You need to be this whole anti-snitching campaign that seems to be prevalent in our society? No. Snitch. Tell. Tell. I was never one that would advocate in prison because, you know what, that'll get you killed. But I would tell people, hey listen, some telling is good. Some snitching is good. This one, snitch. Tell. If you see something, say something because it might actually be your kid. There are people out there. Have you all seen the little videos or the messages where they said, ladies, if you see certain things tied to your car, like your door handle around your mirror, outside mirror, hurry up and cut it off because it might mean something, maybe a twisty tie, a zip tie. Those are legitimate. Those are li... That is something that you should be afraid of. If you go out of your car and you see something on your car that you didn't put there, remove it and then avoid going back to that place for some time. If it's where you work, well then make sure that you make sure that you're around someone who knows you and you can walk in and out. If it's your daughter, your niece, your cousin, make sure they know. There are people out there even here in America that are... They're not only interested in kids from South America. They're interested in kids or women, period. The report we saw was there are also adult women that are trafficked. So, you be vigilant. Reject this foolishness that we see coming from Rolling Stone, from CNN, from MSNBC and all the others that are pushing because, again, I saw someone say in the chats, who would want to push back against this? Who... What is your interest in putting this... making sure this move into the light of day? And even some people that have stated that some AMC theaters have all of a sudden had problems with their equipment or have canceled the movies? The question is who... We know the answer. Well, the first answer would be money. But the greater answer would be Satan. Someone says, I can't see the movie. Well, I can understand that. I can understand that because it can elicit problems. Do you know that while we were in prison, what's the movie, A Time to Kill, came out on... was it TNT or TVS, one of those shows? We have cable in prison. So, A Time to Kill No. They cut the cable for about two or three hours. Why? Because the last thing they wanted to do was to give the inmates in prison a reasonably riled up. Oh. Well, some sex offenders got beat up that day anyway. Just because of the... the commercial advertising this movie is getting ready to play. You know the movie with Samuel L. Jackson who kills the guy who molests his child. That movie was going to play. And no. The captain got word. No, we can't play that. We can't have that. And I like that. I like that. Amen. Don't see the movie but buy a ticket. Please buy a ticket because you can buy a ticket for someone else. Thank God for Angel Studios on this one. Amen to them. So yeah, that would be a good idea. We're going to do the same thing too. Now I can't watch it. I was thinking about trying to watch it tomorrow. I'm not sure if I can. My grand children's other grandparents have them which is funny. They live right across the street. My grandkids grandparents on this side of the street and on that side of the street. So they have their grandparents on both sides. So the first three days they're over there. The next three or four days they'll be over here. So we take possession of our children on Saturday. So I can't watch it on Saturday. I thought about going on Saturday or Sunday. I can't do it on Saturday or Sunday. But I can't do it on Monday because we'll still have them. Tuesday I think we'll still have them for the first part. But I might go Tuesday. We're going to watch this. My third oldest child, she went and watched it and she said it was wonderful. As a matter of fact theirs were free. They went for free. Laura said thank you for the super chat. She also said it was a very good movie. Yeah, we need more of this stuff out here. But it's going to be a problem because they will categorize this in the same category of coming against transgender children. Anything that looks like it's trying to protect children they'll put in that same category because the very same folks like us who are against this are also against this experimenting with our children. And so we've got to stamp that out. This can't be allowed to go forward. So guys do me a favor. Do your very best to alert people to this movie about this that's happening in our country and just to be vigilant. But don't do what we normally do as a country or as a people. We're vigilant for a few days. Coretta Scott King said it best. She says we are a five day country. I mean we mourn something we pay attention to something about five days and after that it's back to normal. Make this a part of who you are. Always be on the lookout for this stuff. Always be on the lookout. No, I understand JL why people don't because some people just can't watch it now. There are some people that have been maybe touched or violated in their past and so things like that might trigger them or it could be that it's just bothersome to them. Some folks get angry. I don't want you going out and getting so angry that you want to pick up an instrument and do violence or hurt someone else. I don't want you to do that. I just want you to be angry enough to where you're going to want to do whatever you can to help prevent it. That's all. We're not saying hey go out and be vigilant but if you see something say something if you see something say something record we all have these phones call somebody get them on your on video what have you let the authorities know get there get their license plate number go ahead and be go ahead and be caring be caring to save a child that's fine. If a person hey listen we just want to make sure all right if that person gets hassled inconvenience for that reason I think that's a worthwhile cause. I think that's a good reason for someone to be inconvenienced so if you pull me over and you wonder if this is my child hey officer I understand now depending on who pulls me over I'm going to move real slow I'm going to have my head lifted why are you moving so slow sir you have to ask for your license registration because I want to make sure I give you my license registration and I get my whole hand and body back but I don't have a problem with you making sure that this is my child or my grandchild or my niece who I had no problem with I need you out of doing your job matter of fact can I donate to the policemen's fund no problem officer but in this case you do want to make sure you do want to make sure that you're eventually you had your old corn supplemented the C for the P is horrible because of what it can do to you what it can do to you yeah yeah Angel Studios is not owned by the Mormons guys they're part of the production studio that happened to bring out chosen there's a lot of parts that we use to bring out the movie chosen that have nothing to do with Mormonism so that's not that's not the case either guys at least I don't think it's the case I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that's the case but the message as as Dina so aptly said the point is the point the main point is the main point and so if if atheists put the movie out it's a good movie it's a worthwhile thing so guys do your very best to be diligent about this and I'm sorry to have to bring this to you but it bothered me when I saw this it bothered me so much so I mean I was I thought I was going to be more more emotional about it because I was earlier I really was I'm talking about I was angry I was I couldn't hit the screen because it was my own screen I'm not going to break my own screen because I was angry on the screen but we're going to keep calling stuff out and listen if we take a shot from YouTube which is probably which may happen they remove one video before in the past okay fine whatever whatever we'll keep it coming because it's going to happen we're going to have to fight more and more for the cause of Christ and especially even now also guys for the cause of these children so guys let's say be diligent and in the meantime as well be blessed amen