 Boom so fam Anthony John center today. I found her 21 studios 21 convention 22 convention 21 university today Are the nepsode special episode 21 live I with me none other than Isabella Riley She's an influencer and ambassador for Prager University turning point USA and a few other organizations She has a giant tick-tock. You can see here with 130,000 followers. I find her on Twitter a few weeks ago It's kind of interesting the tweets and ideas that we're gonna get into She's a proud anti-feminist and liberty extremists self-described big fan of Ayn Rand Ron Paul and master a lot of questions on the show today So without further ado, please let me welcome to the show Isabella Riley. Hi. Thank you so much for having me on Yeah, I'm excited. I've been following your tweets for a while Yeah, what do you think of them your tweets your tweets are like sometimes I'll read them like damn Even I'm shocked at what you tweet, which is like I never get shocked by what anyone tweets So you really we're on the same vibe about our kind of tweets Yeah, the feeling is mutual the stuff you tweet sometimes anti 19th amendment and shit like this and like holy shit This girl's like pro patriarchy, you know, wiped up knocked up reading stuff like that Yeah, I mean I would have read like books in the background like you do but as a woman I can't read so Shame to play a part of them not Yeah, women shouldn't read and drive anyways. So that's fine Exactly that is that is a fact but yeah, your tweets are very funny and I'm shocked I'm like you would get in more trouble because you know in the world we live in a identity politics You can't say these things as especially a white man like you're really living on the edge Like I'm not even that you know controversial because I'm a woman. So Yeah, who does you? Thanks. Well, let's get into some questions. I have I'll get the hard ones out of the way first some of them Anyway, I'm Questions will be okay. Let's go They're gonna be fun So as you know, uh, you've been called, you know, sometimes you're criticized insulted and stuff You're called conserved of them bow and the manuscript they call you chameleon It's even been reported to me that you're the world's biggest conservo the world champion, apparently So what do you think about uh insults and criticisms you get like this? Are you fake or are you for real? What do you think about that? I I really don't care. I really like I never never read hate comments I got a lot of hate comments, especially on tiktok. I never really read them They don't bother me if you're leaving someone hate comments or you're coming from at someone with negativity It's because you're insecure yourself So I don't really care if anything I feel bad for the people leaving the hate comments because They must be so miserable and bitter in their own lives that they feel the need to go Spend their precious time to go leave a comment on someone else's stuff whereas for me I like have to enforce myself to leave comments and interact with like my friends post because like they do it with me And I feel like I want to support them So I would never like take time out of my day to go watch something I don't like and just criticize someone, you know, anyone that's calling me a conservo First of all, I'm not even conservative second of all if anyone knows me in real life I'm like a mother Teresa. I'm like not flirtatious at all. I'm like super just like ill to everyone So it's it's so not like me. So I mean, I don't really care for me I know what my flaws are and I'm fine with that if someone points them out Then I'm like, you know what that's cool. I agree with you. That's a flaw But if someone points out something that's not true and it's At least in my opinion, then it doesn't bother me because it's not true So why would I let something not true bother me? We'll put we'll put now. I haven't seen the comments on your tiktok But I have seen a little bit on twitter obviously and especially on instagram on instagram They're fucking savage like these beta males come out of the woodwork to just roast you attack your friends and shit. I think I feel like on instagram, I don't get hate comments mostly all about this recent video I did the one where I'm like this Yeah, it's on tiktok. I'm getting a lot of good positive comments But tiktok is by far the worst. I have one video on tiktok that has over 40 000 comments And they're all hate like it's hate. There's like 2000 likes 40 That like the deaf and no one's ever been ratioed harder in their lives than that post So I love it though the comments the hate comments they bring that's the only reason my videos do well on tiktok It's because the the leftist and the feminists especially get so mad They can't help themselves or keyboard warriors have to leave a thousand hate comments and boom I get interactions boost my posts and now I swear all my videos are on like the 4u pages Of all the leftists because they're the ones who interact with it. So I'm fine with it Who do you think you piss off more leftists or feminists or like beta males? Which are the which could be the most hate You call them certified beta males too. I think you'll make special names for them. Yeah, yeah certified I would say Feminists because I think feminists who feel so betrayed by women who don't buy into feminism and they're like so pro patriarchy and I mean in a negative sense that I don't agree with their definition of the patriarchy But I think feminists they just feel so betrayed. I think beta males are just I don't even know like they're just I try not to interact with them and it's really embarrassing what they put so Here's one of your uh, one of your tweets about basically beta males or male feminists I call them viscy males actually like viscy french That's perfect. That's perfect. Yeah, hopefully natural selection takes care of the male feminists. Basically these beta males Yeah, no seriously though because like what even like women from the left Do they really like the male feminists like do you really find these like weak beta males attractive? No, we all want like a macho man. Like let's stop playing pretend. We all want that I've seen so many liberal girls on tiktok be like, oh my republican boyfriend. You know like my conservative boyfriend But okay, so let's all admit that we all agree that we like the conservative Traits in a man more than the liberal feminists, which the male feminists are the creepiest ones It's like they're trying I don't know if you've heard this new term they call them like allies like we're an ally Of feminists and it's just it's creepy like you know white people will do this with you know the black lives matter people I'm an ally to you like let me signal that i'm an ally. It's all fraught like fake stuff and it's not for me Yeah, you have another tweeter too kind of uh, you know harpen on this see toxic masculinity is hot I have not seen a woman tweet this before like you so it's kind of interesting to see more of this Yeah, so it's funny because I don't there's not much like thought process behind these I just have random thoughts in my head and then I just like put them out there So I was just I think I tweeted that yesterday. I was sitting on the couch and I was like Toxic masculinity is hot and it's just I mean it kind of is though Like I'm really not talking about talks like in a negative sense Like that what the left will say is you know these macho masculine men and you know positions of power Like that's kind of hot for a girl Like you want a guy that is powerful and just strong like that's let's stop pretending So I just randomly thought about it. So yeah So do you have any more further thoughts on toxic masculinity and is masculinity healthy? I mean, this is a really big thing that's been ramping up the past couple years We've seen with me too and crap like that and it comes along too with more sayings like the future is female all this like negative garbage Yeah, I mean, I don't even know what the future is female even means like clearly That's kind of like Beyonce song like who runs the world girls. Cool. Clearly. They don't like that's all just that's just a lie Like the entire songs a lie, whatever But I mean, I don't really think toxic masculinity is negative in the sense that the left talks about it I just think that they hate that men tend to hold positions of power And I think they're just jealous of it and that's what feminism is doing today They're jealous of the positions of power that men tend to hold So what they want to do is they want to attack men for all these masculine traits and why they're in these positions of power Take over those positions of power. So what they really want is female supremacy But it's very strange because at the same time they want to destroy gender So they keep contradicting themselves and that's why this like, you know Irrational movement won't survive and because it keeps canceling out itself, but it's it's very interesting Yeah, you mentioned female supremacy and I'm actually known for saying that feminism is a toxic Basically hate and supremacist movement in disguise. Obviously Do you consider that as well like a hate movement a supremacist movement? Oh, for sure. I mean they what it is It's kind of like even with you know The black and white people like dynamic in america on a lot of black americans and like blm think that white People have dominated these positions of power. So they kind of want to get back at them It's like revenge. They want to take their positions. They want the power So it's like a power struggle that these feminists are trying to have with men and then same with black lives matter with You know white people apparently so I feel like it just battles for power Okay Talking about mansplaining. I've seen you tweet a little bit about this. I didn't find a tweet on the fly for it But how do you view mansplaining and what role is it taken in your life? Um, I didn't even know it was a term until I think it was the was it the vice president debate between pens and kamala harris when they said that Pens was mansplaining. So I never even heard about the term since then but when I first heard I was like, well That is an amazing term that I just want to keep talking about and I just love being like Yeah, feminists would be a lot smarter if they just like listen to some mansplaining for one So or you know, the reason I attack feminists so much is because they're like Predominantly like the most hate comments again on ticktocks. I'll often just respond to a hate comment and just kind of You know mess with them and troll them or you know, just put on display how crazy they are So I will just say yeah The only reason I know anything about taxes is because a man will mansplain it to me You should really try listening to mansplaining go learn a lot women and I just love trolling them because they just They buy into it every time. I mean they just feed right into it. They can't help themselves They're like I call them rabid feminists because that's I really believe that they're like rabid about this stuff Very emotional as women. So yeah, yeah, like little raccoons running around just crazy and shit. Yes So have you always been this inflammatory like I mentioned to you a little while ago Like your tweets start not to savage. They're highly inflammatory, which I really admire I try to do the exact same and piss all these people off But have you always been like this? Was this more recent development in your life? I've always been like this So I've just have always been a very outspoken person and you know, I'm not afraid to Disagree with people around me. I've always like everyone has always said I can you're around me I'm always like I hate this. I hate this. I'm super like I have super polarized opinions about everything I like love her hate everything mostly hate I'm very like seriously. I've had I remember one time Um, I went on vacation with my friends in her family and her dad was like Is there anything that you like you just keep saying that you hate this and I just I'm always You know giving my unwanted unsolicited opinion all the time, but yeah, I've always been pretty inflammatory I love saying things that will shock people and like make people feel uncomfortable and just seeing how they react and I love especially when I troll people online and then they don't get it Like that's my favorite thing is when they don't get it I just keep going and seeing how far I can take it and then they just I don't know. It's amazing. So yeah, I've always been like this. Have you always been like that? Yeah, I would say so it's gotten more aggressive as I got an older and stuff like that But definitely it's been like that for most of my life Yeah, so like yeah, here's a good example So in high school my parents didn't allow me to have a smartphone until I graduated because I was always in trouble First thing were just things and like Bullying it wasn't listen. It was a girlfriend group. This girl just it was a big situation This one girl, you know came at me But I used like I remember when I was like when twitter just started I didn't even have a twitter but I was on my friend's phone and I tweeted from her account Her mom got really mad at me and I tweeted from her account. How come whenever I spread my legs I smell fish. So it's just like these things that said stuff like that like just outrageous things And you went to you went to catholic school your life or something like that, right? Yes. Yes I just always was saying outrageous things my entire life I've always had like an inappropriate mind taking things wait Everyone's always said as well. You always just take it way too far And I'm like, you know what that I just find that interesting and funny and guess what if that alienates you good I'm someone that I will never change who I am try to fit in with someone I prefer when people don't like me because then it's less people. I have to deal with less people I have to pretend that I have to like So I love when my like polarizing personality just alienates people because it's like good If you don't like me good, let's not hang out, but it really Is talking to you don't seem very hateful or very hateful like you're saying these things and I I know you're sincere But you seem like very kind and pleasant and like sweet and stuff. It's kind of funny to see this go on Yeah, so that's I hate everything. Fuck all these opinions blah blah blah and you just seem very calm and like sweet Yeah, I'm not like an angry person at all I just like have strong opinions and my my mood never really fluctuates unless something severe happens in a good or bad way Like, you know, I don't I don't understand why people cry like I'll cry if one of my pets dies But there's no other reason why I would ever cry. It's a weird. I don't I don't get it I also I don't know if you've ever seen me tweet about this, but it's not I'm not kidding I don't laugh out loud like I've never laughed out loud like sincerely Nothing I ever find is that funny. I could find something funny, but I don't get how people can physically laugh out loud I'm jealous. I will see like my sister when she starts laughing. She can't stop and I'm like, I'm jealous That looks like an enjoyable time. I wish I could experience that much joy, but I'm just Nothing makes me laugh out loud and I'm still waiting for the day for that to happen, but yeah, it'll happen. Don't worry. I don't know I'll make sure of it I've had to learn to fake laugh or else it's really awkward for me just like Someone's gonna say something. I'm like Let's take a few steps back. We were talking about mansplaining a few minutes ago Right talking about your relationship with your father. Would you consider him an expert mansplainer or professional mansplainer things like this? Yeah, so my I my dad always says that I am him with a vagina. I'm him with a girl clone of him Um, I always unfold them Yeah So we have the same exact personality the reason why I love like ron paul I and rand is because when I grew up my dad was obsessed with them Like I always say my dad was ron paul. My mom was iron rand My dad literally has an iron rand tattoo on him like her portrait with like a little money signed tattoo So that's why I'm so extreme in my beliefs because I was just like raised indoctrinated in like the best way possible So I was exposed to these ideas very young and yeah, no, my dad is just like me You know never shuts up always has to give his unsolicited opinion. He's very smart too logical person So yeah, he definitely mansplains a lot and he's definitely mansplains to me my mom my sister all the time And you know, we always say that me and him are the logical ones and they're the emotional, you know Women of the group So my dad always says you're way more of a guy than like my guy friends like I swear I tweeted I think a couple days ago, you know, I'm most of my guy friends It's not all of them all the guys in my life are more emotional than me I even say my dad's more emotional than me. I don't get emotional so I really do feel like I'm a man trapped in the woman's body. So I might come out as a tranny one day Wow, I hope not. I'm not into the trance stuff, but You're you're definitely female in the brain and I think in some ways that you maybe you don't realize quite yet I'm very like feminine. I love like being girly, you know, like makeup and like cute clothes I don't do my nails because I enjoy biting them too much But you know, I'm girly in that sense, but in terms of how I think that's what the big thing is How I think is definitely like a guy like I have like the biggest like bs detector I can always tell you tell if you're like lying coming up with an excuse I'm like my family will always say, you know, you always have to pick apart everything Like I will remember everything that you say to me and if you ever contradict yourself like years later I will bring that up and use it against you. So I just always That's a very feminine thing actually that's something women do a lot. That's true because they're very like calculating Like they're very calculative minds. So that's that's true, but And I think your parents are still married. You mentioned your dad mansplains a lot to your mom and your sister Yeah, yeah, they've been they were each other's first together since they're like 15 So Yeah, they've been together for a while. Although they're younger because they had me when they were 20 So So there's they're only 20 years older than me. So they're not like crazy old I'm not gonna day though. It's probably a little more normal. My grandma had my uncle like 16 That was a long time ago. But yeah, well, that's crazy. I cannot imagine Let's shift gears a little bit Following obviously my twitter you've seen make women great again. How do you feel about that? What was your first impression about that? It's genius. It really does make sense You know this trend of thanks to feminism of making women ugly, you know Like I swear to god They just want to make women as ugly as possible and women It's like and it's also this idea that women would be happier Like being married to a corporate job than being married to a husband and It's all against, you know, they the feminist claim that they care about the woman's right to choose But it's only the woman's right to choose what they want them to do You know, you can't be a single mom. You can't and realistic. So what's funny news? I actually like don't want kids. So this is the funny thing about my twitter I like play the part of a tradwife, but I'm like I have no maternal instinct whatsoever At all But if I were to have kids, I'm sure I would like them So I like I understand that like I love animals. I like act like they're my children So I'm sure if I had a baby, I would feel the same way But I have no like instinct in me to be like I really want kids And that's mostly because I want to be very selfish in my career And I feel like kids need to stay at home mom. So I feel like it wouldn't be fair But if I had a husband that really wanted kids and whatever and if I ever got pregnant I've never you know, I'm not a child murderer. So I would have the kids But um, I don't really have a maternal bone in my body. I forgot the main question Uh at this point might have been sure you just keep going to tangent. It's great though Just keep going. This is okay. I think it's ramble. That's the thing. I don't know how to shut up But everyone's gonna love it. Just keep going. This is great. Okay. So yeah, I don't know It's very weird because you would think from my twitter that I'm like I want to be a stay-at-home mom and just have like 20 kids and that's really not the case whatsoever, but Um, I just your your 22, right? Yeah So 22 is actually peak fertility for women too. You're actually the most fertile you've ever been in your life And you'll ever be so it's kind of interesting I don't know. I feel like I'd be younger honestly. Nope 21 22. You're right at that age Interesting interesting. Yeah, I don't know. I mean You mentioned abortion. Let's talk about that. Yes How do you feel about abortion? How do you view it? Like what do you what are your actual philosophical stances on it? Why do you oppose it? What are the reasons if you can define them? So one thing? So I'm pro life I I don't even like when people say I think it's a life. I know it is. You know, I follow the science It's a life. I don't need to say I think it's a life when life I think life starts a conception No, it does. Okay. That's what the science says. So let's get around that. I'm very particular with language So, um, I would never, you know, get an abortion. I think it's disgusting I think it's really I don't understand why the feminists have really championed abortion Like if anything just say that people get into tough circumstances and it's ugly But like sometimes it needs to happen, which I disagree with but that's a lot better than shout your abortion I don't understand why they're so passionate about this. It's a very strange No, they celebrate it now too. It's sick. Like they really Celebrate it. Yeah, something that annoys me too is people will say, oh, well, you're just a you know, you're catholic or you're christian You're and I'm like, no, I'm an atheist. I live in our religious. I went to catholic school my whole life I say I'm agnostic now because the only reason I didn't I was an atheist before was I was like, well, I don't have proof There's a god, but I also don't have proof. There's no god. So I'm agnostic. I don't care I don't find the topic interesting whatsoever But talking about being inflammatory in high school I used to say to my religion teachers that religious people are as dumb as liberals So I used to say these things all the time. I used to be in trouble all the time. It was always a problem, but Yeah, so, um, I was the same way every troublemaker, you know rascal these things. Good. It's good. It's a good way to live I used to oh like I remember my entire life growing up. English teachers always hated me You know the English teachers were always like the liberal women, you know, I remember Um, a freshman year in high school some like we were talking She was very political and we were talking about, you know, we should ban guns because I will stop gun violence I'm like, well, you know, we should I don't think um the fact that we make it illegal to do drugs It really stops people from doing drugs, you know, like it doesn't make sense people are still going to do these things You know, so I used to always argue and debate with these people and everyone knew in high school Like I was pro-trump It was like when I was sad because he won right after Wait, wait, wait, wait. You were in high school when Trump was running in 2015 2016. Yeah, so I graduated 2016 God And I would still have it like I was like so crazy about it so annoying And I'm like so mad that I had like he won after I graduated because I wanted to rub it in everyone's faces so badly But unfortunately it didn't happen and now I'm like damn He lost Yeah, for now. We'll see what happens in 2024. How do you feel about trump of 2024 de santis things like that? So, um, I'm kind of in a pickle because I don't know if you're familiar with Dave Smith. He's like a libertarian Um, he'll be running in the libertarian ticket. I mean he is but he just hasn't fully announced yet I agree with the way everything that he says so it's like and he doesn't even think he's going to win It's more of like to like ron paul spread the ideas of liberty. He's trying to like wake people up He doesn't really think that he's going to win So like I'm going to be in a struggle because it's I mean in new york I'm not really wasting about anyways because it's going to go to the democrat anyways, but I don't know it's it's going to be tough but He's more savage than uh, the libertarian candidates recently sucked like so Woman like they're terrible. We're eating Right, so I don't know if you keep up with like that There's a lot of fighting going on a libertarian party right now So I identify with the mesas caucus people the mesas institute austrian economics That's that's me like all that. That's me. That's how I feel like rock bard You know, um, I and rance kind of been there too. That's sort of thinking like ultra capitalistic free market. That's how I feel Um, what tom woods? Yes. I love tom woods. Yes, exactly. So that's how I think Dave smith's friends with tom wood. I don't know. Do you know michael malice? Uh, yeah, I know that guy on twitter Yeah, he's good. He is so funny. He's like the king of trolling on twitter But um, I'm almost an anarchist like I'm almost an and cap. I'm trying so hard not to be because at the same time You know, I want bill. I want a wall. I want a wall around the entire perimeter I don't care screw canada too I you know, your tweets come out about these things. I see them and I can see you shifting ideologically over time But you're such a young age that you're gonna keep, you know, figuring out We'll be getting a being an cap I can see you trending in that direction exactly like you're saying like I've seen your tweets kind of lean that way Yeah, no, I'm definitely it's um, I'm definitely figuring that stuff out right now and watching, you know This all these people like tom woods michael malice, Dave smith everything they say I've never disagreed with it, but I also feel like I do want border security You know and the thing is with um, the past libertarian candidates. They're the lulbergs the woke libertarians That's why if you go in my bio, it says paleo libertarian because I want to Differentiate myself from the woke lulbergs because they're insane. These people are just like leftists They call these lulberg libertarians call someone like Dave smith a nazi Damn call them a nazi so they do the same exact thing that the left does so that's why I differentiate myself from them But I also don't like are you what do you consider yourself conservative like trump trump lukin? Uh, no, I'm a ron paul republican. I would say and an objectivist both Is your dad a objectivist too? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't think he calls himself an objectivist. But I mean, Irand is like his his main bitch for sure. I mean I mean, he has a face on his lip like he literally has a face like this big on him tattooed. So Okay, so you're only must be in his 40s. Yeah. Wow. That's he's 42. So You know, that's really young. Holy shit Yeah, so that's something it's so funny I don't know if you get this too, but so many people would be like, oh, if you like Irand if you like ron paul You shouldn't like trump and I'm like, okay These people online love to tell me what I can and cannot think Just because I like someone doesn't mean I agree with all their policy positions So I'm like the opposite of most conservatives or there'll be like I like trump for his policies But you know his rhetoric. I don't really like that his tweets. I'm not for it. I'm the opposite I like his rhetoric. I like his tweets the meaner the better. That's what I liked about him I liked how he was like I was gonna ask you about this. I was gonna ask about yeah I like how he's like the manifestation like the middle middle finger to the political establishment You know the corporate press all that I like that. I think he opened up a conversation He really popularized the term um fake news, you know enemy of the people He really made that a thing where so many people if you don't have a phrase for it It's hard to kind of conceptualize it. So he really woke a ton of people up that being said I wish he did more I wish he actually built the wall and I think you know, he did increase the size of the government I did like his tax cuts, but there wasn't I mean his policies weren't all like what I would perfectly want The only person I fully agree with is myself, you know So people are very annoying online to tell me what I can and cannot think if I think something Would you have preferred Ron Paul over uh, Trump? Yes Okay, he would never get away Yeah, so brilliant policy wise. I understand you're saying that was a huge Ron Paul guy back in the day 2009 2012 Stuff like that when he ran Right, so that's the reason why Dave Smith wants to run because he he became a libertarian because of Ron Paul So many people dead. He really brought these Um liberty messages to the forefront on the presidential stage just being there even though he didn't win He really like, you know started a liberty movement. So that's what Dave Smith is trying to do because ever since he hasn't run anymore It's kind of died down Yeah, the world libertarians have taken over Talk to me a little bit. I know and it sucks because it used to be so much more hardcore back in the day Talk a little bit more about uh, Ron Paul. You mentioned your diet. Obviously a superintime He grew up you raised on this like a diet of ramp all or romp all and I ran Uh, but like what how young were you? You actually remember hearing about these ideas and these names like Ron Paul Were they like figures in your head like story bedtime stories about Ron Paul? Always my dad was just always complaining about the government. So as long as I can remember I mean I probably don't have any memories of specific political issues until maybe like early high school Definitely like freshman year of high school Maybe middle school because I was always like running my mouth but Yeah, and then I in rand I started watching interviews of her like non-stop like a few years ago And I never even realized that the portrait was her until I started watching interviews of her And I remember I was like on my back porch with my father one day and I looked I'm like wait That's all in rand like I never even put two and two together, you know I'm kind of slow as a woman. So what I love about I in rand is she's just like She's just so hardcore and she like me never laughs She's always like just so like stern and she does not care to Just shock people. She's also not just saying shocking things to shock people But she's like I love the whole and a lot of conservatives will get mad at me for saying that's like the whole The concept of the virtue of selfishness. I so agree with that I really do think that it is wrong to live your life for other people because that's a lie Everyone lives their lives for themselves if I help someone it's because I have an interest in helping them I don't want to I don't help people that I don't want to help I get annoyed when people like reach out to me like oh, can you like do this or can you do that? Like that's annoying. I want to help people because I want to help people, you know If you help pay for your like spouse's education or something It's because you have an interest you're you're in love with them. You want to help them You have an interest in it So it's somewhat selfish and I think that there is like a negative stigma around the word selfish And I think you know, it's not selfish to want to keep your own money that you earned Like these sort of things that the left will say it's selfish and something Like I always had libertarian principles and just things that would get I would get enraged about growing up I remember in high school at lunch I would have you know, I'd bring a little lunch and my friends that I'd sit with would be like oh Can I have this can I have that and I'd be like no, I brought this for me Like this is my lunch that I brought to enjoy. I didn't bring it for you And then they'd be like you're so selfish stop being crazy. What's wrong to share? What's the big deal? And it's that same exact principle the left will be like you have enough money You want why don't you want to share like stop being so selfish like no share. What are you doing? Just pay your fair share give me all of it Exactly So I had situations like that growing up that I always noticed now looking back at it now like from now I'm like wow. These are really just simple like the libertarian principles that Ron Paul talks about, you know, non-aggression everything's voluntary You choose what you want to do. That's at the basis of capitalism. That's why it's the only moral system It's because it's the only system where both parties are just voluntarily choosing to engage in commerce with each other So it's the only you know moral system and the iron rand says it's the most attacked system And it kind of has to be because it makes so much sense that obviously it needs to have the most targets on its back It's going to you know only the effective people in politics get you know all these hit articles against them They're trying to take down someone like matt gates because he's so effective. So yeah We'll put we'll put your world around these issues. This is pretty good Uh, let's let's shift gears a little bit. Let's talk about talking to me about fat women fat feminist fat women body positivity Fat positivity all this garbage you keep making up So what's your opinion on american fat women? Okay, so I hate I mean I'm like I hate all fat people. I hate the excuses that fat people give, you know I have big bones. Oh my family is big like just don't freaking eat You know healthy food is so expensive Not eating is free. It's literally free. It's the cheapest diet you could possibly have And I just I just don't have any sympathy for it. Like I said earlier I just always like I can pick up like bs excuse detector all the time like that's I just cannot stand excuses I can't stand when people lie to justify like their own, you know actions just just own it be like, you know I eat too much. I don't exercise enough. I like to eat unhealthy Let's stop lying and then also the body positivity movement. There's nothing positive about being overweight It's pretty disgusting that we're today in society where like perpetuating and promoting beings having these unhealthy lifestyles You don't see people promoting being Interrexic people would freak out if that were to ever happen. So why are we promoting being? You know morbidly obese. It's not beautiful and something I always laugh at whenever there's like You know on instagram a fat girl posts like a bikini picture and you see all these girls in the comments You look so good. Oh my god. You're so like gorgeous like okay Let's stop lying first of all like and something I love too And I've had to do this myself my my entire life if there's like a fat girl She'll be like, oh my god. I wish I was like a skinny and small as you blah blah blah The best comeback you can say is oh, but I wish I had your boobs. Oh my god Like I'm so jealous like you're so lucky like no, I don't but it's like the best cop out But if you're a fat girl with no boobs, I'm sorry, you're flipping it back on them. You're pressure flipping. That's pretty quick That's clever. That's good. Do you feel that in America? Fat men and fat women are treated differently and for example I know for a fact that women are actually more prone in America to obesity and severe obesity It's actually affected more by it, which maybe is explaining why they're so That's such a bad relationship with it. But you see a difference there and how men and women are treated when they're fat I guess that There's maybe a standard like I Would much rather have a guy be like overweight than a girl. I think a girl like needs to have like a better looking body You're supposed to be like more put together. So maybe there is more of a pressure But I think that's a good thing. I think like bullying and everything is good I mean not in a terrible sense, but in a sense where you know, you should feel some sort of pressure to you know Like look just somewhat healthy. I mean, that's just normal. That's part of life. That's natural selection So I don't know. I guess um men they don't tend you post pictures as much as girls online So I guess they just have less pressure on them. But I think that makes sense. I don't know Yeah, what do you think on that? Yeah, yeah, good question. I like this. So, yeah, I think men are treated differently Being a fact that in america is not as accepted as woman. It should be the other way around. Okay. Oh, I know I know because it's you don't want to criticize the woman because there's there's so much pressure on women to look a certain way That like you feel like you can't say anything, but men can just be shit on all the time. Yeah, yeah, exactly So it's a victim hierarchy number one number two Fat women to me are just gross like personally like I wish I'm the best I hope they lose weight get healthy in these things, but it's just fucking disgusting I've thought that my whole life and women should be it's more important for them I think physically sexually attractively. It's not even a word, but you know what I mean I know you mean they need to be lean and healthy. It's important, especially for fertility and things like this Yeah, no. Yeah, it's being flipped upside down. I think so there should be a more shame and pressure on women to be lean There should be someone meant to dadbots. It's fucking gay These fat dudes these lazy bums. It's all like lame these soy boys and stuff with their beer bellies Like I have no I'll I'll talk about I'll talk shit about them all day long But it's women that you're not allowed to criticize. That's the issue. I think fundamentally you can criticize fat guys You can't criticize fat women That is so true That is so true and you always say like, you know girls will get mad at the guys like Oh, I want her just to be skinny, but girls would be like, well, he needs to be over six feet. Well, bitch You can control your weight. You can't control your height. So shut up. But you know, I I agree There should be you know more shame on being skinny. I'm not saying that you need to be like anorexic or anything But I I agree like whenever I see like, you know, I talk about this with people and just it's hard to respect someone When they're so huge because it's like you're just a slot like you can't get it together to I mean, I'm not saying that you need to be like super skinny, but you're so big like you can't get it together Like it's kind of Laziness and weirdness. I don't know gave us a five dollar super chat and he said why aren't there any plus size male models? That's a good point. You see these in these fat models. I forget terraces I don't know any of their names, but yes, I try not to remember their names. I know I know It's very like your your job is a model. I'm sorry Like part of the hard thing about being a model is being skinny and being like the perfect physique Something that annoys me beyond all all belief is when I'm like online shopping or something and there's you know They mix in the plus size stuff and I'm like Can you get this out? Can this can there be a separate section? But no, they don't want to make them feel like other than sad But it's like you're wasting my time that I have to scroll through these fat clothes Like just differentiate like they probably don't want to see all these skinny clothes either Like just differentiate, but they don't want to hurt their feelings But yeah, that's a good question. Why is there no plus size guy models for the exact reason? What what you said is that we can't criticize women They don't care about men. So they just don't want they want they don't want to you know Leave out or exclude fat women, but they don't care about excluding fat men with make women great again I have a hat coming to this as make women thin again This is really fundamental to why I had it made is that you can't criticize women You can't say let's make them great again make them cook again make them thin again make them hot again all these things And so I think fundamentally it's like piss. So you saw the news articles that pissed like millions of people off It was a lot of fun. It was the biggest role in my life. It was awesome I love it and it's it's kind of weird because you know I do the same thing where I troll but there's like some level of truth to it like Exactly. I'm kind of serious. Like we really should be from like make women Great again mattress lives matter What's that even mean? I it's probably about fat women. I think or something. Oh, true. True. True. Yeah, we'll see what he says. Yeah Explain yourself But we do need to make them a great again. I mean, it's a troll, but it's also very real The convention banner that you see as a whole then I did for this you should speak at it I think you'll be killer you'll piss off. I've never spoken to anything Are you sure you want to women speak a woman speaking? We have a few of them. Yeah speaking this year. So you want anyone I know Probably I just invited dr. Helen Smith. She's a famous anti-feminist and I've confirmed I've confirmed now my favorite anti-feminist. She's a queen of anti-feminism Professor Janice Femengo Wait, I feel I've actually seen was she ever on Dave Rubin? Yep. Okay. I think I've seen her She's like, yeah, I think I've seen her but she's awesome and Christina Hoff Summers I mean, I don't think she she calls herself like a Rational feminist or something. I don't know Christina is like Janice Femengo light. She's not as hardcore as Janice. Janice is like you but older She's like super super savage, but very sweet Canadian lady like as a little accent and stuff But just very fiery and defensive men and thinks feminism is extremely fucking toxic Do you know what's her name Camille Paglia? Yeah, I'm gonna bet her too. I think I did actually She's so hardcore. She is so on it. She's so smart. She's so on it I really love her and then I don't think like Katie Hopkins really says she's like a hardcore anti-feminist But I know she does talk about being obese and fat people and she's really inflammatory I mean, she's been banned off everything for a while now. So she's she's hilarious too. That's the British lady, right? Yeah, yeah, she's actually I think she's America's still right now, but she's she's hilarious. She's she's savage Yeah, yeah, woman have to be savage to be good woman. Otherwise there's losers Yeah, but I do think that sometimes like remember when Megan so Megan Kelly I actually never liked her. I remember when she was a part of like the fox prime time lineup My dad always liked her and I don't know when agrees with me. I prefer Sean Hannity over Tucker. I don't know when agrees with me It's fine. But yeah, you're like, yeah, I don't agree with you But I think Tucker takes it too far sometimes with the whole like I don't think he takes it far enough He needs to be more savage. I think he should be more hardcore No, I'm talking about in terms of he gets annoyed, you know, he's so like anti-business, which I'm not pro business I'm anti-business merging with the government, but he's so like he's not a capitalist, which I don't like Yeah, there's some issues. I don't agree with Tucker on let me be clear That's what I mean But you know, he's I love his anti-war positions I just think Sean Hannity has like no ego and I've heard that he really started a ton of careers and whenever he has Like a guest on he always like talks them up and whenever they try to say anything positive about him He's like, no, no, no, like let's talk about you. He just seems like he's so Humble and like willing to help everyone and just so genuine. I've always like gotten a good vibe from him I still like it a good vibe from Tucker, but sometimes he's like, okay Tucker Chill like you're being kind of annoying Hannity is back in the day He's to give Ron Paul like a lot of shit and he's come around I think in recent years I think genuinely when Trump came around but back in like 2010 2012 He's watching it back then so I don't really know but I remember you're so young. You're just a kid This is crazy. Right. Like I like on fox. I like Mark Levin a lot His podcast is good. He's like super he can be very inflammatory too on his podcast I mean not on his fox show on his podcast like he is He's not afraid to call out names, but oh, yeah, so make Kelly back to her I never really liked her and I felt like when she chopped her hair off You know, she used to be kind of hot when she had long hair and she I swear to god This is just my instinct. I don't know. I don't know her. I've never this is just my intuition She chopped her hair because she wanted to seem like a harsher more of like Masculine like she wants to play some persona that she's more of a tough woman to compensate for her being a woman And I see this a lot in politics Where I see women who put on like a different personality whenever they're on camera And they try to seem like way more flamboyant louder and like more tough and it just seems like they're playing a character Which I always find super phony. I wonder I should probably shouldn't say any names I can't even think of any off the top of my head, but I've seen women where I'm like, okay You're you're trying to be something you're not like how I'm talking right now is literally how I talk all the time Like my friend's family are always like you're yelling shut shut up That's just how I am But there's some women that I feel like they feel inferior for being a woman, you know as they should And they let's like a hang on. Let's talk about conservative bimbos. That's a real term I think and I use it against some women and then not others and I told justal judging you and investigating you these things Partly that's true. Partly I'm just teasing But for example, tommy larn is a perfect example of a conservative bimbo fake maga thought And I think her is screeching against men a few months ago back in like august or september That demonstrate She's a pro abortion, you know feminist essentially it disguised like a chameleon That's why these guys in the monastery of this community that I'm part of and stuff That's why they'll accuse you of this at least at a face glance. That's why I put the duck face on the ad my video editor Is this Yeah, like, yeah, you know, I I totally agree with you on her and you know, I've never the second She said abortion's a constitutional, right? I don't respect you like I'm sorry. It's just not it's it's not Just you can say you're pro-abortion. Don't say it's a constitutional, right? It's obviously not It's not in the constitution that was completely made up Let's put that aside, but I agree. I saw that video Of her ranting about like her like ex fiance or whatever and that's something that pisses me off I see it on tiktok all the time. It's a trend. All men are trash. I hate all men And no, how about this you are trash because you let men treat you like trash I've never had a man treat me like trash because I wouldn't spend time waste my time with a man that treats me Like trash so you attract what energy you're putting out also You hate all men so much that you keep sleeping with them and you act like I don't know if you can say like bad Can you swear on here? I feel like I've said a couple swears. Uh, yeah, I don't care. Don't worry Okay, but like the left Talk about the 2020 election just be very careful what you say because they're super gay about that on youtube other than that I don't give a shit Okay Yeah, so like, you know, there's sexually promiscuous They like sleep with men all the time like a different one every week and it's like Well, if you're attracting because you know feminism tells them be a slot That's like liberating so then they act like a slot and then they wonder why men treat them like trash because you you know You're coming across this trash You they don't want to respect you because of what you're putting you're letting them do like the first time they meet you So I'm so sick of women saying all men are trash look at yourself if all the men that you've dealt with in your life are trash I think the common denominator is you Bingo And in my view too, you mentioned feminism and you know these things like this Am I view feminism enslaves women to their own worst impulses promiscuous behavior for women makes them miserable very quickly and the damage is typically irreversible So it sucks for men. It's a bit different even my hardcore christian friends. They agree with that But for women, it's just like it's very toxic and very dangerous and a slippery slope off like a cliff Yeah, because I mean men they're like by nature. They're designed to spread their sea They're designed to like reproduce as much as possible where women are supposed to be selective and we're supposed to choose our partner So yeah, I totally agree. I've you know growing up in high school and college all of my friends are you know Very sluts they all wear I never judged them for it. I don't care and they they seem to have loved it Like whatever I never judged them for but I've never Had any interest in being like that in my life. I just don't like I said earlier like I pretty much Not flirtatious. I like don't really care to get attention from guys if anything I'm like unless you're my friend already I like want nothing to do with you whereas my friends like they would hook up in college You're a different guy every night like for three nights in a row. No problem. They loved it They didn't seem to have any issues, but I could never do that. I think that's disgusting Why would I want anyone to like see me like that unless I'm like, you know in love with them? I don't know. I I don't get it And I do think it really promotes the worst impulses and women and leads them down a life misery where they You know start devaluing themselves And then by the time they're 40, they're like, oh, I don't really have a life partner Maybe I can't have kids and it kind of just leaves them down a life of misery Well, a lot of them my age and millennials and you'll see this with gen z I think too they end up single moms. They just get fuck around they get knocked up, you know, plan b con and breaks whatever And the there's a tidal wave of single mothers. You probably know about these stats I can tell you but it's it's a tidal wave of an aside. It's yeah It is sad and even promoting like I'm not I'm not against single motherhood Like if you have to I'm happy you didn't abort your child, whatever But we should not be promoting this lifestyle, you know like saying single mothers are heroes, blah, blah, blah That's fine. Like I'm happy they didn't abort the child But we should not be probably when you promote things you're going to get more of it when you're Giving like tax incentives of certain behaviors are going to get more of it Or um less of it if you subsidize it, you'll get more of it. So that's the same thing with um, you know With the tax code they make it so if you don't have a man in the house Then you get more money or something like that and I learned about that in some family law class a couple years ago But and I obviously will get more of that you took a family law class in college or high school college Okay, yeah, so yeah, no, so it was an interesting class, but um, yeah, that was I agree I think it's terrible. We should not be you know promoting single motherhood again. I'm not against them I'm happy you didn't abort your child, but Yeah, it's not good for the girl there. You kind of need to mail this What 72 72% of inmates in most prisons are like raised by single mothers That's how bad it is for children and colter wrote a whole book on it. Actually. I think that What buck she's she's written so many bucks. Yeah, I don't know the name of it, but I can find it She's famous for it because it basically proves that uh single motherhoods is single worst thing that can happen to a child in America Beyond anything else and it's across demographics racial lines religious lines where you live with state all that crap If you're raised by a single mother not a single father, which is bad too But you have some like authority figure as a father I'm sure you could be an authority figure as a mother too But you know men tend to be more of the authority powerful figures So having at least the male energy is super important, especially for um, I mean I guess in both I was gonna say especially for men because they could lead down like leave them down a life of violence But for women too because it's really you know, you hear about daddy issues and that's a thing So you seem to have the opposite of daddy issues Yeah, no, I'm my dad and I are like best friends. We are like one in the same So I've always like he's always said I don't have to worry about you because I just like I can I can tell if someone's a good person or not I've never really let anyone treat me like trash ever again If you say all men are trash, you're the trash because you're letting them treat you like trash Now we have a question from a super chat here one of the guys watching Sean five bucks Thanks, bro. He's a question for Isabella. Who do you like as far as 2024 presidential candidates? I really like Candice Owens before you answer. I ran. It's famous who asked asked on tv back in like 1972 Something like that on uh, Phil Donahue. Would you ever vote for a female candidate for president specifically? So answer this question and then if you have comments on would you even vote for a female candidate? Candice Owens or whoever it doesn't matter female period thoughts Okay, so female period I guess I Would but it's very unlikely So if it was someone like myself that actually thinks like a guy like you would have to think like a guy not think like a female Which I've never met another girl that thinks like maybe maybe like, you know, Ann Coulter is a good example She's really like, you know, logical. Whatever. I really like her but um in terms of Candice Owens I mean, I would vote for her opposing a democrat But she's I think it's very premature. Is she even old enough? Oh, she is She you have to be 36. I don't even know She said that she was like, oh, I'm gonna run in 2024. Maybe I'm hearing that wrong But she turns 36 by then she could run or by the time I think you have to be 36 by the time you just swear in probably so 2025 january is when that would be Well, um, she would not be my first choice. Um, I mean, she's she's good I mean, she just says a lot of great things But she's really not my favorite personalism too Honestly, there's not many girls and if any girls in politics that I really like I love everything She says I like Ann Coulter like Katie Hopkins. I like Michelle Malekin But those are really like the only really names that I feel like are tough women that I actually respect and She knows the Asian lady. I know she's she's awesome. She has like a I think a Saturday show on news max She's really talking like immigration and she just gives no she doesn't care about what anyone thinks but Um, yeah, I like Ron DeSantis. Um, I don't think like I think Trump's gonna run though He's he pretty much alluded to on Candice's show saying, you know I would announce something but the fec will get mad at me and will cause a ton of trouble but So wait, but he's also gonna be having rallies like he's going to run I don't know who's because vp would be I think Candice even said oh me as the vp ha ha Which that would be kind of interesting. But what are your thoughts on Candice? I like Candice. I don't think she's a conservative. I know early on when she got started there was a thing with Dave Rubin She's not a conservative conservative. Bimbo conservative. She's not I don't think I agree. I agree Yeah, she's not like Tommy Lorne. I think she's I think she's savage and legit She takes a lot of heat and uh, she's strong. I think like uh, she's a good woman Now I've been like done huge research in her but those are my thoughts at this time. She's cool. Yeah. No, I agree. She's definitely um outspoken sometimes I feel like she does start like fights just to like Yeah, blow up, but you know, it works So she she blew up and she's doing great and now she has a show with the daily wire which is awesome for her So I agree. I think I saw some like old twitter fight between her and Tommy But I mean that Tommy is who who are the other conservative hoes? I don't even know like many conservative women. Like who are they? I found one. It seemed a CPAC that was disappointed in I forget her name. She's like the kent state gun girl or something. She's working in fours. I don't know Caitlin Bennett. Yeah, I don't like she's definitely conservative So we'll preserve a home That's well for example and specifically here. Well, I'll define I'll answer that and then also, you know This girl with her name Katie or something Caitlin Bennett. Yeah, Caitlin Bennett. Yeah so that's based off of first impression I talked to her for a few minutes and that's for example opposed to um What's that black girl's name? Uh, she was tweeting on you the day that black girl. Uh, Caitlin Katie Caitlin Krillik I'm not saying it right She's she ran for congress uh in 20. Oh, I'm really classic Yeah, I think that one. Yeah, she's cool. Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore. Yeah. Yeah, I interviewed her and stuff She's cool. She's sweet and just been talking to her for five minutes. It's like, okay, this girl is feminine She's sweet. She's genuine seems like a patriot That other girl it seems like it's a brat talked to her for a couple minutes She's all about like followers and drama who's chasing around some CNN dude Jim Acosta. I saw that. Yeah Yeah, I can tell her chasing him around. So that's funny. We were like in the same vicinity I didn't take her to play until after c-pack. So Okay, yeah, you probably walked by me like 10 times. I was only the media booth and stuff over there Oh, probably. Yeah, so I haven't talked to her. I follow her on like social media But okay, so you I agree. I think the whole like follower count thing is super lame Like I would be with people and they would say, oh, how many followers do you have on tiktok? I'm like, this is like, are you really asking me like who cares? Like I think it's so stupid Like I'm just so not like that like people say, oh, what do you do? I'm like, I make stupid tiktok videos Like I think they're stupid. I think they're super lame I'm just never impressed with anything that anyone does and especially myself. I'm super hard on everyone And it's weird because I'm very confident But I also like never thinking I do enough so but I'm not upset about it That makes any sense. I view myself as an objectivist. I'm random in the same way. It's extremely judgmental So I told you I was judging you and I'm not kidding. I'm always judging you and everybody All the time everything I have opinions and everything like you're saying So it's actually I think it's a good thing to be judgmental. This is not in a douchebag way Right, you know, I'm recognizing the douchebag, right? Everyone has always told me I'm super judgmental and critical Like I can never just be like, yes, that's amazing But when I do say when I do compliment something or someone they're like, wow coming from you That is like a great thing because I know how like sincere and you're being honest So I've always been told I'm mean, but I'm just being honest if you're gonna ask me my opinion on something I'll tell you the truth. I've always had problems with girls. So do you like my outfit? I'll speak and they're asking me. I'm not the one saying it. They're asking They're asking for it. Do I look fat? Yeah, you look fat lose some weight Yeah, and they don't want to hear the truth and that's why like I've always said to I've had friends be like, I don't know if I can be friends with someone as like mean as you Okay, cool. Let's move on. All right. We don't we don't need to be friends But yeah, I'm always judging people and I actually respect that you're honest about it Most people are gonna judging you know, I am we all are judging each other some more than others And I'm not doing it in a way to be rude, but I'm just, you know, taking mental notes. So There's a I ran quote from the fountain head It's something it's not verbatim here But basically she said it's cruel to be honest and the more honest you are the more cruel it is And it's not a she wasn't mean she doesn't mean some negative sense It's that basically to be very honest with people you have to be a fucking asshole And the more the more hardcore the truth is more of an asshole you have to be I was recently called by another youtuber an extreme asshole. I kind of liked But Thanks Like it's a compliment. I totally agree with her assessment. Um, and it's not even that it's necessarily like all these words I think she what I really learned reading her is that she will like you'll take a word like selfish You know or like cruel and it has a negative connotation to it, but it doesn't necessarily need to be She's just it's the truth. It's the objective truth. Yes, if you're more honest It's going to be cruel because the truth hurts if something like I said if someone points out a flaw of mine That's actually a I believe to be true and it's a true flaw Then maybe that would bother me more than if someone's like, oh, you're a hoe. Well, I know I'm not So why would that bother me? You know, so I totally agree with that assessment And I think that she's spot on with that and a lot of people say that she was too inflammatory to the Point where it hurt her but it for me. I love that. I love the brutal honesty Like I love when someone's inflammatory even if I disagree with you like I can respect it So I personally am attracted to those things. That's what attracted me to Trump even though I'm more of a libertarian Yeah, yeah, same. I love the way he was so bombastic and such a fucking asshole I love it. His policies are not perfect But it's exactly what the country needs because it's become so kind of centric, you know Pussified basically it's pathetic. No, I don't even think he's an asshole My dad would always say he's such an asshole, but I love him like I don't even think he's an asshole He responds to attacks on him on him. He doesn't go after people until they go after him first Yeah, exactly. I think uh, Trump does it strategically. So behind the scenes is probably actually a really nice guy But no one's ever gonna fucking believe that right He knows how to be an asshole and use it as a weapon very effectively Right. I got elected basically and that's what's good about Ron DeSantis, too He won't take crap from the reporters. He'll call people out like he has that macho like strong tough Male masculine energy, which is what I really like about him. So Yeah, it seems in Orlando on saturday who's here last weekend. I almost got to meet him Oh, really? Yeah, I got to like talking to kind of yell at him and stuff like make florida great again, you know You're lucky you're in florida, but I see the thing I love the northeast, you know Dick or asshole personality like I just love that personality That just f you don't talk to me like brutally honest. I love that personality like I Could not are you aware of the florida man meme and the florida women like the florida people because i'm like Floridian yeah, you need to get educated. I'll do some mansplaining for you sometime Okay, okay, perfect. What's it about what florida people have a different personality than like the southern sweet yard Okay, people are fucking savage like we have all kinds of florida people, too There's the beach people the swamp people the northern rednecks the key west people the keys you got the mammy people It's almost like where are you not that I know florida orlanda orlanda. Okay. Oh, so that's where a c-pack was Yeah, it's why it's so easy to go. I'm like holy shit. I just live here right there Yeah, are you going to there's another c-pack in Dallas? I think Yeah, I might go to it. I heard about that on saturday at the ronda santas thing. I might go Yeah, there's also a um a yowl event that i'm gonna go to yowl like young americans for liberty Oh my god, okay. I don't know anyone going to that so i'm like still deciding if i'm gonna go But I should go you should go. I'm going. Yeah, okay. I don't know I like I got to meet rom paul on time. I'm gonna take pictures with him I actually had him sign my copy of the declaration and penance and constitution Which i'll like never forget, but I want to meet rampall and I haven't met him yet I think he's cool. He's not quite as savage as his dad, but he's close Yes, so see for me. I don't really care about meeting people. I just think they're people like I don't care I also like at c-pack. I felt that was like my first political event ever c-pack and I I felt bad for all the people that were bigger names because they were swarmed They couldn't like hang out like they were swarmed by people. I felt bad for them I would never like I have a rule. I won't go up to someone unless they go up to me So like there's someone I famous that I know i'm not going to go up to them I'm not I don't want to act like a fan. Yeah, I hate that too. It's super gay So yeah, I'm very thoughtful about how people are getting swarmed by this stuff I had this so I could mention sometimes like maybe these attendees that come to my event They want to meet me, but I'm running the fucking event. So they just you don't mean bad That's the thing. It's like you're putting yourself out there for it to happen But I just feel bad for the bigger people. Like I don't want to add to their like discomfort You know what I mean? So it's called empathy. Yeah, it's good It's unusual that women have this today. So congratulations. That's unusual I'll say too though that the reason I like to meet people to pictures with them is that they're going to die someday I got to meet for example, uh, Nathaniel brandon who had the shrug was dedicated to the original one before him and Ann I rang out a fight I got to meet him about a year before he died and spend like five hours with him And I pictures with them and stuff like that, but it was very memorable Yeah That's an issue. So I like never take pictures when I'm out with anyone So the only pictures I ever have of myself are either selfies because I force myself to that's why you see me post selfies But it gets with other people I don't ever take pictures with them. So it's always on someone else's phone. Like it's just always a problem. So I just I suck at that. It's really annoying, especially for someone like I want my instagram feed to not just be I don't Do you follow me? Do we follow each other on instagram? I think I follow you on instagram I don't like instagram though. I don't like twitter and youtube basically I hate instagram. It's such an annoying app But like I just post everything I do every on there But my feed is only videos like I need most people It's like mostly pictures in a couple videos like I need more pictures So it's very it's a struggle. I suck at it. I'm a bad influencer, but I hate that term So I think I think you're doing pretty good. You're navigating all these hierarchies and stuff on twitter and all the stuff I watch what you do. It's pretty interesting. You're really good at it Yeah, the previous you yeah the project baritone stuff. I was asking about that All these things you're you're really good at It's a it's a compliment. You're good at navigating these hierarchies Basically as I would be them as a man and climbing these these ranks and Getting your message out there to influence and piss people off Yes, I like only started like I started posting on social media December of 2020 and started doing political tick tocks and then my account got banned So that's when I started posting them to instagram. I made my instagram account literally january 1st And then I had an old twitter account from high school had to delete all those past tweets would definitely get me in trouble But then after c-pack people were like Bitch, you need to start tweeting if you want to like actually start getting your name out there Because like no one's on tick tock besides young people Instagram's okay, but like twitter is where it's at if you want to actually meet people So I just started doing twitter and I honestly don't know why I've grown like grown so fast I don't get it. I feel like it's the woman's privilege I swear to god just because I'm a pretty girl, you know, I get so much more clout than I deserve I like almost feel bad like it's like I feel bad for men You basically you piss off all the feminists number one Who are mostly female but some male the number two all the beta most volume and stuff because they're subtracted you So you kind of have a double a double whammy of these Basically likes and stuff right unless you really piss people off like trump or something or like I try to do It's hard to get traction like that, but you know do it. It's the woman's privilege I swear to god It's like I've always this is why I've always rejected feminism because you know, I've been a girl my whole life I've only felt like it's brought me a ton of privileges You know at college parties, you know, if you're a guy unless you know someone throwing the party, you know They don't want you to come in girls. Please come in the more the merrier You know, I've always felt so privileged and especially with social media You know, you could just be have I mean I don't know any girls that are like my age or even older on like tick tock or any that I'm like impressed with no offense to them like none of them. I don't see any of them as competition. I'm not even whatever But oh, yeah, I'm gonna pull this tweet. You have a look. There's so many great tweets. Let's go on this one. This is a great one Yeah, okay full tweets. I've I've never seen a woman tweet like this. This was such a fucking savage I'm too pretty to be a feminist and you just start posting selfies of yourself. This is hysterical So what happened talking about the line of thinking then the reasoning that went to this tweet So again, I just randomly thought of the tweet and I had selfies to post but I almost didn't tweet it because I hate being like I'm so pretty like I don't feel like the need to express that. I think I'm pretty like I think I'm pretty But I think it's pretty cringy when people like constantly talk great about themselves But I was like, okay to my dad like he always like he loves my tweets He sees all my tweets whatever he loved it and I'm like, okay Is this like funny or is it just like conceded which I'm fine come and cross conceded It's hysterical because you're walking that line really it's a really thin line and you're walking it like a tightrope It's good. It's funny. Yeah, so I um just recently like I have like a new show Starting well, we have like the pilot episode out I don't know if you know, do you know Gavin wax? He's the president of the New York and republicans club I retweet him all the time Can you tweet him? I beg you to Gavin McKinnis, but yeah, I've seen that guy you tweet him Yeah, so he's he's really great So we have like a show and actually speaking of Gavin McGinnis Gavin McGinnis like reached out to us and want it's like doing the show with us But we just recently went on Gavin McGinnis's show and on the show he asks me to rate myself and Right like one like one to ten. Yes Wow So I say In between a nine and a ten and all the comments are like fuck this bitch. She's a seven. She's hideous and I'm like That's hilarious. I'm gonna play up like having like a huge ego and just people like they hate it and whatever I think it's so funny But yeah, I that tweet it is funny, but I was afraid like I don't want to come across like I'm so like I'm so pretty but it was about saying I'm too pretty to be a feminist like even an average girl That just has like long hair and his feminine is too pretty to be a feminist, you know, yeah Now above ever There's another one you have the best thing a feminist can do is shut up and get back in the kitchen Nice That's true. Keep in a real pc true This is what I'm saying though like I am just like waiting for the day for like turning point and prager to be like Yeah, like I don't understand why they're okay Like I I don't get it because turning point will like retweet my tweets sometimes and I'm like so they're seeing I don't know if they see all my tweets, but they're seeing my tweets And I really do walk the line Yep I do the same thing I have a lot of relationships with speakers from I've been doing my thing for 15 years now So I just have hundreds of people that watch, you know, privately what I do that are important to me these relationships And whenever I tweet I'm like, I wonder what this is going to do for that relationship And then I'm like you guys tweet, but same same I'm always thinking like, okay Well, all these people are gonna read it I wonder what they're gonna think and it's you know what if they don't get it then they don't get it But yeah, I'm shocked that, you know, turning point wanted me to be an ambassador I don't get it. You asked me a few minutes ago what the definition essentially of the conservative home So basically what happens to women that do not have integrity is that they might start out like doing what you're doing This is what the man is for guys that say you chameleon kind of thing I don't think they're correct though But basically they're savage savage savage time goes by they pick up a following and they get retweeted by bigger accounts They get their videos shared wherever and basically there comes like a threshold point a turning point where they sell out They tone down the rhetoric they tone down this and that for basically illegitimate reasons is to get more money So that's what I mean when I say conservative home Tommy Lawrence perfect example Uh, even if she thought the way you did which I don't think she does she would never say these things because it would jeopardize her job It would jeopardize her career at least for a short term period of time. She'd get fired or whatever She'd have to go to newsmax oan or something. She should make less money And so her value is basically behind the mass behind the bullshit behind the you know, whatever like garbage Uh, it's fake and that's that's fundamentally what a conservative and a conservative bimbo and a maga thought That's what that means. They're fake. They're fraud. I totally know exactly what you're saying And this is something I've actually like talked about a lot with my dad And he's like you kind of have to make a decision If you're going to like want to make more money and kind of self self-sensitive yourself Or if you want to be completely yourself and I was like, I want to be completely myself I mean, obviously want to make money, right? Like I want to make money. I want to be successful But I I'm not someone that will jeopardize my principles. I'm a very principled person I don't care. Like I don't care. People would say it's bad to associate yourself with Gavin McGinnis I don't think that what he's done is wrong. I think the whole signal around the proud boys is lbs I'm not just going to play by like this media narrative that he's done like white supremacist nazi. He's not I don't care. I don't like fine. Do you think it's bad for me to associate with him? Cool. I don't care to be honest like yes If like fox and all these other shows like I've been on newsmax a couple of times that they asked me to go on I would go on I have no desire to have a show on fox news like no desire actually tweeted out the other day something to the effect of You know anyone that is successful in the main true media like lies to themselves can't be fully themselves like sensors themselves I don't want to do that. I don't I just I don't want to do that. And I also My personality is not good for it. I think what makes me like different from everyone else is like I'm very like quick-witted. I say kind of crazy things just comes to my mind and I say things like my first time I was on newsmax I didn't even realize I said it until my dad said maybe you shouldn't have said that on like live tv your first time But I said the only person that can change their skin color is michael jackson I don't know why I said that I don't even think that's that controversial, but it's I guess Right, that's what I thought but my dad was like, I don't know if they're going to invite you back on Which they did but I don't want to be censoring myself with a you know my like Humor which women aren't funny, but you know what I mean like my sense of humor, which makes me different from everyone else I don't want to just be like another clone of another, you know pretty girl. That's talking reading a prompter That's not what I want to do another another zombie. Yeah, that's that's not what I want to do I don't want to be fake. I want to be fully myself And I was actually talking to Gavin McGinnis and like just talking about like relationships He's had with people that like he's still friends with them in the background But they really don't say that they're friends because of you know reasons, you know money and stuff And he's like I get it like money and I'm like, you know what I don't like you're unprincipled You're phony like you're a fake friend if you can't stand by someone that didn't do anything wrong Like I'm sorry. I don't like I get money is a great motivator But it's really hard for me to put myself in a position where I would take a real friendship Put it like hide it for money. I don't know. I don't want to be a fake I don't want to be a fraud that's always been against my personality That's why I was always in trouble in high school because I was not going to be a fake bitch So I'm not stopping now And you had trouble with your teachers too. You'd probably troll them and fuck with them and stuff. Oh, yeah I know how this goes. Yeah, I know. Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, it was it was never good I like one time made fun of like my math teacher who was a man I was like, why are you deep-throating that banana? This was like soft for your high school Like these things like I just these things come to my head and I always take it too far And I don't want to censor myself. I just I just don't want to Do you have any filters at all? You're just just like go go go go go go just go So I mean I always tell people like you think what I say out loud is like crazy or you know taking it too far You should hear what I say in my head. Like I try there's a lot of things that I wanted to eat that like It's not worth it because it would It's not worth like the benefit of it. Like it's not as funny enough to be worth it You know, there's a couple things that come to my mind that are like wait Or something what the risk of any ban or something like that Right like and that sucks though Because I don't want to be someone that's censoring myself because I don't want to get big ones Let me play by their rules. It's kind of like gay but at the same time like you want to grow You kind of have to it's a weird like I see both sides of it But again, it's not like I'm censoring myself to the point where I'm not me like my twitter is still Kind of crazy a lot of the things is is I want to say something But I don't like want to swear like I don't use the f word because I don't want to like come across as like super like You know vulgar which in real life. I am that's the thing I need to fix But there's a lot of sexual jokes I want to say but I don't want to come across like freaking porn star or something But it's like I'm joking, you know, it's not not being serious. I don't want to come across like that so In real life though, I don't really censor myself. Good. God bless. I'll never I'll never get married Okay, I was yeah, there's a question. So when will she get married? I'm kidding. Are you married? Uh, no, I was a long time ago Not did not end well does she think you're trash Uh, no, I left her. I found out she was prostitute Like what do you mean like a like a not an only fans type thing but like an actual Escort, uh, she called herself a call girl technically. There's a speech on eating a watch And it's called marrying the do so how to survive a female psychopath It's got about half a million views. It went viral obviously for pretty obvious reasons It's about two hours long, dude. It's really long, but the first hour is the meat of it Wow, you just like clips of your stuff on tiktok that you already have recorded It will do well and like I don't know if like it reels on instagram You just post repost it all you could definitely I probably I'm really stubborn as you might have guessed And I just fucking hate tiktok even more than instagram So I might overcome that at some point, but I'm just I hate both of them to me they're both just like the devil I mean a little bit less for instagram, but I don't know. I like youtube youtube is very masculine space It's a lot of men that do it. It's very few women not the many feminists It's mostly just assholes and men like me and stuff I've heard that for all of the demographics all like it's kind of interesting to compare demographics of followers from each different platform And yeah, no, I I have a youtube I've posted like two of my tiktok videos on there That's it. I want to make youtube videos, but Do you know about shorts youtube shorts, you know, those are I've heard about that. What are those? It's basically youtube's program to compete with tiktok. It's like very specific under a minute And if you don't if you just take your tiktok videos and shoot like that and put them on youtube and put hashtag shorts You'll make bank like all day long with views. Really? I can do this right now Yeah Well, I appreciate we finished the interview first, but after that you can go do it Yeah, no, I'm going to start posting them right now, but that's awesome because If you just want to fuck off and say fuck the interview I'm gonna go on youtube and post my own shit. Fuck this guy Let's start. We can start up some beef some fake beef. So who are you? So I wonder any other conservative hose I think that's a really good definition And I guess you can't tell yet because like you said they start off like very strong and you know Going so you really only time will tell But there's there's men there's men like this too in conservative circles and the manisphere like they're basically just frauds They'll role play their live action role play will kind of pander to people like politicians almost their politicians But they're pandering in more niche markets to gain followers and get money and bullshit So they pretend to care about the issues, but they fundamentally don't they don't give a fuck And the minute there's like a real issue a real conflict or money's on the line We'll fuck off. We'll sell out. We'll tone down the rhetoric You know, whatever they have to do to keep the money train going which I fucking hate I need that too. You're just like an unprincipled fraud. That's so like against everything I've ever said for I just I don't I don't like it at all Who else? Oh, you can ask about yeah, because I don't know. I mean, I don't track conservative This isn't like a life mission or like hunting a list Yeah, I could I mean we could it could be a lot of fun actually. I maybe I should roast them That would be that would be funny like that would be a good youtube video like going through my like top 10 Conserva hose or top five That would get views. Are you kidding me? You should definitely do that. Yeah, because you're a chick It's gonna be I could but you given that you're an attractive young chick. It's gonna piss off a lot more people Or we could both come up with a five less and then compare it Yeah, but I'll say this too. It's meeting people in real life. It makes a lot easier for me to tell That bullshit detector goes like way up in person Same when I met that that kentz day gong girl with her fucking name is katelyn Yeah, just immediately I'm like bad vibes and then I saw the gym cost of stuff I'm like that guy's a fucking scumbag so fuck him But I know what she's doing this and it's not about saving america. It's not about patriotism. It's not about Video Yeah, and that's just fucking I hate that so bad Me too. No, I I totally agree with you and that's why like whenever I'm with people I am unable to like make any good content videos or take pictures because I'm just enjoying the moment and just like living in the moment I totally I've never talked to her. I only follow her but that's that's very interesting I agree with you the second I can tell like if you're a good or bad person someone I like or not Like the second I start talking to you I could just tell So I I'm with you on that. I think it's called a woman's intuition is uh, what they call it So you have it too Not a woman's intuition. Not that I know of maybe I do who knows maybe you do I don't like so I don't like so I like I think I was born at the white chrome zone penis and balls. It's pretty nice. I like who I am So did Caitlyn Jenner That's right You know, I don't squeeze and they don't get that much traction I swear the ones I like the most like don't go do well, but I keep tweeting You know, Caitlyn Jenner has more balls than you know, whatever and no one finds it funny. I'm like that's No one finds this funny Yeah Tweets that do well sometimes things just fall flat. It's okay I always make some jokes on myself. It's like a thing. I don't know But that's unfortunate. I'm a boob guy too, you know, well sucks really like everyone today is like an ass guy Now they're losers. Anyway, let's let's back up a second. Let's back up a second So we were we were talking earlier about not only of course feminism and different angles and stuff I don't want to ask you this. So you're a different generation than me. You're Gen Z. I'm a millennial. I'm born 1988. You're born 98 So you grew up in a different you grew up as a child in the 2000s I grew up as a child in the 90s. That's like my my decade How do you think feminism influenced you negatively if at all in the 2000s? Like did you feel something from that? How do you feel about gen Z girls and our feminism has affected them because you were directly engaged in this as a kid Yeah, I mean, I guess I just always like would say I don't know what you guys are talks like complaining about I've I've always been a girl. I've always been privileged. Like I feel like I've been privileged to be a girl. I said that before Um, I don't know. I guess ever all of the women and girls I knew growing up They were just seemed so weak and emotional and you know, I remember like even when I was younger I'd have friends come over and they would end up playing with my little sister because I was just like I don't want to do this. I was always and I was just kind of off topic But whenever you're a little girl like people want to play pretend They want to like play like Barbies. They want to play house and I would say Why do I want to play house? Like why are we playing a pretend game? I was always against games That's why again, I would be the worst mother because I'm like, I think all games are stupid. The fake It's fake. I don't like why are we playing something that's not really I don't I don't think it'd be the worst mother I think it'd be okay. I think it would be so harsh Like seriously, I would be so like I don't like any movies anything. That's fiction. I don't like because it's fake There's enough interesting things that are real in the world. Why would I waste my time watching something fake? Don't get it. Do you have any nephews or nieces yet or anything like that? Do you have any brothers? No, no, no, no. I only have one younger sister. She's 17 Yeah, when you have a nephew or niece someday or your own child, I think you'll soften up a little bit I have I have three nephews now. They're cranking out like clockwork. I got two sisters just pumping them out Wow, though No, I don't think so. I love my sisters very much So one of them just had a baby for example, like two weeks ago a little Dylan and it's When you're at least in my case when my sister's had you know became mothers Is this really it's a very emotionally impactful moment and you get to see, you know Your own sibling like have a child like that and it really just puts things in perspective Similar I guess to having your own child, but I don't know directly yet, but it's pretty amazing experience past couple years Yeah, that that is true. I'm sure This is another hot take I have that like no one like understands where I'm coming from But I am like don't ever want to see and like no one ever knows if I'm I'm rarely upset about things that you would never know like I would never let anyone know I would if I'm ever pregnant giving birth The only person I want in the room with me is the people delivering I don't want anyone to see me in pain. I don't want anyone to be there. I don't want them to feel like they're looking at me I just want to everyone f off. You'll see the baby when it's out. Leave me alone. Like that's seriously Going to be the circumstances if I were give birth So I want to I want to back up another second here in something too You mentioned your daddy so you read all your tweets and stuff What is your mom thinking about your online activities just pissing off millions of people and all these things beta males feminists Does she watch what you do? What does she think about this? She does sometimes so another thing is like I started an animal rescue farm with my mom And I've like had to resign from the board and stuff because people would find me like send her Yeah Send her like tweets of mine, you know videos of mine and like try to like, you know these so-called vegans that care about animals They're like, oh god, you have a right winger that started an animal rescue farm, you know conservatives libertarians They're not a lot of rescue animals, you know It's not because they don't really care about the animals like they just care about they want to you know Just trash these people they won't they won't they won't be happy until we're like dead seriously gulags You know reeducated or dead So I mean she doesn't care she thinks that you should be able to say whatever you want But I do feel like the one thing I feel bad about like I don't care about getting hate for myself It does not bother me. I just feel bad about affecting like people I like or love, you know, I don't want it to affect my mom She's also like a nurse at a hospital people will like literally tweet the hospital like this is who's working here This is her daughter Like they just harass her and I feel bad that it affects her My sister's like had me block her on everything because like her friends find me and she doesn't want like moms Like we've had like moms come after me and so I feel bad that it affects them So your little sister's a lot different than you know, this is from what i'm gathering what you're saying Yeah, she's very different from me. She's um, you know, she's she's very different from me. Yeah, okay And I know you mean too about like when this went viral back in 2020 like the news articles and stuff My sister is like a manager at a she was a school principal number one until about a year and a half ago But she switched jobs to being a manager at a theme park in Orlando And there's so many people that know her and know me and stuff that they went the minute They saw me in the news and shit. They were bitching at her basically trying to get fired from her job Right Right and it sucks because like you can handle it, but it sucks that it has to affect other people But here's like just reminded me of something where I was always inflammatory I remember my senior year of high school in my english class I don't even know why we're doing this was such a dumb exercise But my teacher she like hated trump was super against trump and I would always like troll her being so pro trump And this is one day we had like a superintendent in the back of our class watching the class And for some reason we had to do some child exercise. I'm a senior in high school I don't know why we're doing this But we had to draw our hero and then intro like presented to the class So I literally drew donald trump presented it to my class and from my teacher that hates him and my superintendent who's like I'm sure I was freaking leftist and just say why donald trump's my hero Like I was just always trolling people all the time Also, I never put a senior quote in for my yearbook never did and whoever put the yearbook together Put make america great again as my senior quote. I didn't put it in So that's how much like people knew I was always very outspoken and crazy Yeah, very hardcore maga in my space in this mandatory community. I'm one of the most politically outspoken I wish a lot more were and I think I'm encouraging meant to do that by leading by example I think you're doing the same for women too and maybe even as a in your schools and stuff when you're younger You're out of college now too, right? Yeah, yeah, so I don't think that I I don't know anyone that says that's outspoken as you or at least in the topics of anti-feminism I like really don't like your tweets are the only ones. I'm like, wow Surprising we did that. I like never get that from other people's tweets. I'm always just like, okay, sweet, you know scrolling So you're like you don't have a shock me so Thanks Yeah, I like speaking my mind and speaking the truth whatever it takes and anyone wants to get in my way I think of fuck themselves seriously seriously, please So talk to me about the patriarchy. I've seen you tweet a lot about patriarchy. I don't make tweets pulled up for it at the moment We can pull up a few though To all the lovely men out there, please whatever you do never date a feminist feminism is cancer But specifically talk to me about patriarchy What do you do is a patriarchy and what do you tweet about it and this things like that? So kind of like depends on what the definition of patriarchy is like I feel like the left thinks the patriarchy is you know male dominated powers of positions of power You know women are just they know their place stay in the kitchen You know the man the man makes the money the woman, you know raises the kids Takes care of the house, you know make sandwiches and stuff and Why like why are we demonizing that? I don't understand why like that's so like demonized like women Like you don't have to work You could just raise your family, which is like natural for you Like we're biologically designed to want to like raise our family It's the most natural thing you can do And you know the feminists like to demonize as if it's not a real job And I think it's probably one of the hardest jobs that you could possibly do So I mean I think the patriarchy I think Jordan Peterson talks about this a lot It's not necessarily negative all these things that are supposed to have a negative connotation They're not it's just they demonize these terms and I just love using the terms that they hate and just promoting them I just love it. It's so easy Yes, that's true. We must out breathe the insane left. You're one of the only anti-feminist tricks. I've seen talk about breathing so That's your clap clap on that one Yeah, so and it's funny because like I said, I don't even have a maternal instinct My one maternal instinct that makes me want to have kids and I'm like I need to pass on these genes Okay, it'd be rude for society for me not to make more of me like we need to out breathe them Seriously, I guess the one good thing about abortion is it, you know, hopefully conservatives and people on the right tend to have as many abortions So like maybe there's a less of these, you know a mentality, but still disgusting It's murder. I don't think these people should be murdered because of their beliefs But you know, we really do need to be having, you know, at least 15 kids Wow, that's a lot of children. Jesus Christ only one like half a dozen I think six or seven would be pretty sweet. One of my friends Michael Foster, for example, is seven It's technically they had eight, but it's complicated, but seven and I think that'd be more Yeah, it needs as many as possible, which means you like I should start having them now You probably should you're extremely fertile at 22. I know well Maybe the time is firm. Don't I'm kidding. It's gross. Well, Jesus. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens Um, talk to me about so you mentioned We're talking about feminism stuff and the scam to mind as well Do you view feminism as four? Well, we said it's a supremacist movement, but that aside Do you view feminism as four or against women? Again, it's weird because it's like they claim Many things on the left they claim if they're against exactly what they claim to be fighting for So I really think that feminism hurts women more than all it hurts men too because You know in terms of all these like sexual assault allegations that come out all the time If I was a man, I'd be scared as hell to hook up with a girl So it does negatively affect them. You know, there's um declining birth rates You know, there's not as many families being started whatever But it really does hurt um women the most because it tells you, you know, don't get married Don't you don't want to have kids you don't want to raise a family go into the workforce And by the time they're 40 and they don't have a kid or a husband or whatever They're like crap and now their time's out up like there's no going back for them So I really do think it hurts women by far the most and I had some tweet the other day I forget exactly how it was worded But it was some something like the the worst misogynist in the world Care more about women than you know feminists do and I truly I truly believe that they like women more than feminists do Yeah, you're right. I saw that tweet. You're right Right I've been I've been talking about this for years, you know my company and my conventions and stuff and just keep speaking up Keep saying I'm speaking the truth Oh, sorry No, good We're just where do you have your conventions ever in the northeast? Uh, never no, uh, but they've been all around the world. We've got them in Australia I started them in Orlando. Typically they're in Orlando. We've done Poland. We've done Sweden. We've done England. We've done texas You can do Poland, but no northeast Poland's amazing. Poland's fucking heaven. I love Poland so much. I have your desire to ever travel anywhere outside the country Where is he so where have you traveled in America though? Literally the first time I ever went on a plane was for a seapack Holy shit Damn your first trip was to Orlando Florida it's funny Yeah, so I just my parents always definitely afraid of planes. I just never went anywhere I have like no desire to go on vacation just to like Chill like I would go somewhere for like an event. I don't understand like I can't just like that They're and do nothing all day. That just seems like a waste of my time Yeah, interesting very masculine mindset. Yeah, I just I just don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me Anyway, we do them in Orlando. Typically. It's where I founded the company in 2006 That's got a high school of 17 years old Wow, hopefully I do them in Orlando. Yeah, it's been 15 years Thanks, and there's gonna be three of them coming up here in Orlando. That'll be Yeah So we do one for women one for men one for fathers and then together we call a 21 summit That's got three conferences inside of it. It's anywhere from like 50 to 100 people per event sometimes more We do one at a time We used to do one at a time but then COVID fucked everything up last year So I had to combine them into one it actually worked out really good Because then you have like fathers there. They're focused on patriarchy. It's called the 21 convention patriarchy I love it. I love it. I love anyone like anyone that goes there I know I just love because you're going if you're taking the time to go there Something that's called that then we're we're we're gonna be homies. That's just how it is Yeah, I'm excited to this year's the mere 15 year anniversary and I just got recently a lot of speakers confirmed But one of the big ones Ian Smith that gym guy. Yeah Yeah, I like him a lot. He loves my stuff and all my hats and shit. He keeps like posting on my instagram and stuff That's awesome. Yeah, I'll definitely post it too. Not that I have like a huge phone or anything But maybe actually so I saw that you should wear this hat on your sensor tv show This will piss a lot of people off this would be really great No, I look terrible in hats for some reason, but I will try it. I will do it. I'll do it I'll do it. I don't know. I feel like I can't see I look really weird in hats and glasses like any sort of glass sunglasses. I just think it looks so weird, but Hats and glasses make ugly girls look a lot better though. So okay. I did not know this It makes sense covering stuff up. Yeah. Yeah, women are so good at manipulating all that bullshit You know angles and photoshop and filters and apps now Oh, I I know I know I actually because I feel like I look so I can't get myself to look like how I look on camera I feel like I look so weird like right now I'm looking at myself. I look so weird Like I just I don't know. I think it looked bad in camera and like photos and videos whatever And like I'm always how do these girls? Why are they? Here's what's interesting about you is you put use like a lot of guys are bitching use like all this makeup and stuff But what's interesting about is you go back and forth you swing me these extremes. You have a lot of like a lot of makeup I'm not going to comment on it publicly or whatever, but then you go full like zero makeup and yeah usual Yeah, so this is something like it's very annoying because people I mean not that I really care I mean people are just going to hate but if I post anything with makeup They're like, you don't need all this makeup or I've had a comment being like, why are you so different with makeup? I'm like, yeah, that's that's the point of makeup. Thank you but like I I literally never used to wear makeup like when I got out of college I never like I didn't use makeup for like months and then when I started posting stuff I'd be like, okay, maybe I'll put on like mascara and then I was like, okay Well, I guess putting on makeup is not that big of a deal And like you can look a lot better in a video if you wear makeup obviously But I also don't care to post absolutely no makeup like I don't care I think I look good without makeup too, but obviously I look better with makeup or you know So I can do both but yeah people are very obsessed with when I wear makeup They have to tell me you don't need to wear all that makeup. I'm like, I know I chose to like there's videos I all my old videos were like no makeup This is like a new thing now what I'll do is I'll do makeup a few days And I'll record all my videos those days because like I just want if I'm doing my makeup I want to get the most out of it So I don't know but I don't care to record videos without makeup on either clearly What's interesting is that you this is like so this will sound basic But you have like the courage to just you know wear makeup and then not wear makeup Most girls that would wear the amount of makeup that you do would never post a fucking video without any of it They're terrified of it Right because you guys do whatever you want. This is the center's thing Right because there's like a difference, but I'm like I I don't care. I don't I don't know what it is Again, I think it's just very confident There's nothing that people are going to like comment that are really going to bother me like I'm just going to keep doing what I what I do and Yeah Let's back up to feminism again So do you think that any republican women should be feminist or is that completely retarded? Yes, I think it's retarded Okay, so yeah, so no, no, I don't think they should be feminist and yes, I think it's retarded Okay, good. So yeah Let's argue about something else 19th amendment. I've seen you tweet pretty aggressive against this which is unusual Um, we're sort of on the same page sort of not So for example, I think we're on the same page fundamentally that there are very serious and extreme consequences that are very dangerous They're legally dangerous to women voting and that these were not considered or taken seriously when women got the right to vote In america and elsewhere on the world too And I think that you know women voting indefinitely this kind of thing can be it'll kill nations america, canda, whatever So I think we're I'm with you on the outcomes of women voting, especially detached from a similar responsibility Like getting drafted. I'm against the draft, but until it's done, you know, that's kind of a thing Right. Anyway, talk to me about, you know, you're you're vocal very vocal about abolishing the 19th amendment So talk to me about that your position on that and let me kind of argue about it. All right, so Let me just start out with this voting is inherently immoral the fact the idea like Democracy is immoral the idea that more a mob can come together and vote away your freedom and liberties is immoral So let's put that aside Second, I actually don't think that you know if we're gonna have voting I do think that every legal citizen should vote. So it's more of like a troll It's I think with what you were getting at is you agree of the consequences of women voting being bad for america I'm with you But I do think if we're gonna have voting women should be able to vote But I can also say at the same time that the consequences are awful because they're emotional voters They they vote overwhelmingly for democrats and if they weren't voting guess what we probably would have a lot more But conservative um direction going to towards the country. So but I do think if we're gonna voting They should have the right to vote but not good for us And is that because fundamentally you want to treat americans equally based on the way they're born? Or something like that I mean, what is the reason that you want to see women have the ability to vote? I mean men and women are different. I think we can agree on that fundamentally different That's my view. I I mean I really judge people based on who they are as individuals if you're a legal citizen I mean Even better if you contribute if you're a legal citizen that contributes to taxes if we're gonna have voting I think it's a moral But if we're gonna have it then you should be able to vote you should have to contribute to the pot You should you should not not have to contribute to money that you can vote away So I think if you're a legal citizen who contributes to taxes you should be able to vote. Those are their requirements She's a mano check. What's that mean? That's a new term. I've never seen this is a brand new uh frankenstein term It's interesting mano check I think it's a positive term. I'm not sure though. Maybe this guy can always I know this I just realized I know this guy as a personal friend of mine. It's just pretty funny. That's funny Yeah, I just I'm like not funny enough to make me laugh, but like you but it was funny Yeah, I know this guy. He this is the guy who made the fucking who made the uh made the thumbnail Oh, okay. I think he's just trolling. I think he's just trolling. Yeah, so this is a good friend of mine. Yeah Good good good. So do you agree with me then like on my assessment of Yeah, we're on the same page more than I thought You're it's difficult to tell sometimes when you're trolling or not because you walk this line Very thin line and with with the boss in the 19th and like maybe she's serious like Some girls say that Yeah, so this is something that Even happens in real life people are like, okay, I can't tell if you're joking or not and I love it I love that people can because I never laugh. So like I'm always like just like same character I never really break laughing so I can I would I would have been a great actress because you know I can control my emotions I could make myself cry thinking about something sad But I can make myself stop like I'm very good at controlling that So people never know whether my tweets or me in person if I'm joking or not Which I I love having that power over people Yeah, I I can tell I can hear in you. I can tell is it this is interesting Yeah, I think I've seen you laugh on the show. We'll have to go back and look at the recordings. Yeah, it's fake. I've learned to Oh It seems like I'm like a rude bitch. I'm trying to come across somewhat, you know, nice Okay, okay. I am nice. I can still think something's funny without it being funny enough to make me physically laugh out loud Okay, so we're on the same page regarding 19th amendment It's the outcomes and consequences of women voting that need to be Shutdown pretty hard. We need to find a way to do that But yeah, I don't want to I think it's done too to to remove the ability of someone to vote based on the way They're born, you know, like you're saying if the legal citizen now, it's fun We have a super chatter too The 19th amendment was a joke because it didn't give all women the right to vote woman of color. That's a good point Yeah, this is something where a lot of modern-day feminists will attack the you know feminists of the 1920s for women's suffrage That they were they would say that they were racist Which I think there is some sort of a sense of that where they care about, you know, the white woman's white right to vote They didn't care about Women of color or birthing woman persons of color colors right to vote. So yeah, I agree I mean again, it goes back to like I treat people as an individual if you're an individual who is Oh Yeah, that's it. Sorry. I cut you off the stream on accident my bad Okay, how dare you silencing women They need to be silent anyway, so they belong that's true. I silent No one should teach him how to drive a read all that garbage. I don't know the only time a woman's mouth should be open Is I won't I won't finish the sentence. See these are things that I want to tweet Yep You could probably you could probably tweet that maybe well, I don't know what the consequences are gonna be But I don't think you'll get banned. It's just so many people are gonna think I'm like a slut I'm just joking. Like I'm not like really like, you know You know, you have so many haters you might as just fuck it like who cares I mean, I've you mentioned tiktok. I've I've never I've literally never downloaded tiktok I probably never really fucking hate it So on instagram that you have a shit ton of fucking at least this one video. I found yeah, it's nuts Which one I have to go look at it You know what I think it was your the small instagram you have you have like two of them It was one of the small ones these dudes are just bitching and bitching and bitching Huh, I'll have to check out that post. I don't know you have so many videos too Honestly, I have no fucking idea like which one I know I just post like every shitty tiktok I make on instagram because I'm like I'm just gonna get the most use out of it I'm just trying to whatever I do. I just want to get the most use out of it. So They know there are amendments of the constitution you want to abolish 16th amendment anything else that you actually mean to They're not even joking around any other any other hardcore political positions like abolishing an amendment that these guys should know about watching I'm not that not that comes to mind. I mean, I think the founders really did have They really did create the most, you know Beautifully as perfect as you could possibly be like written document that can be applied the principles eternally Obviously the left applies them completely wrong, you know the The progressive supreme court justices or even just judges around the country that will say it's a living breathing constitution Which basically means we can make it mean whatever we want it to mean right now, which is so stupid um You my only criticism of the constitution is that you know, I love it if it was followed But no, I don't think there's any other amendments that I would is there any I don't like know them all off the top of my head though. So I have to read up on that Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, I would definitely abolish the 16th amendment. That's the uh to attack income tax. So fuck that Oh, okay. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I didn't even know that so yes There's a couple more. I think it's the I think it's the 20th amendment. I think I don't fucking I could have to look it up But basically it's what it changed the way we elect senators Yeah, it used to be like, um, you know You would vote for people that would end up voting for the senator and not that everyone just votes for the senator So, you know, I agree with you. So it's more of um I don't I don't really know if it's really the electoral college But it's more it's not really being based on like a democratic approach It's an amendment is what is the constitution that changed it. It was about 1900 or something like that Don't call me on the date, but right. It's it's more re it's kind of recent in terms of the history of america But yeah, I know I totally agree the consequences of that have been the whole purpose of the senate Was to protect the minorities. It's different versus, you know, the house of representatives was based on Proportion or no popularity and the senate is based on proportion. So they kind of like messed it all up Yeah Do you want to add law abortion? Would you do that given the ability to do you hope the supreme court rules in on that? It just knocks that out completely Yeah Because so this is my manifold anarchist because I think them the you know, the primary role of government is to protect life And you know, you don't life on supersedes liberty You don't have the liberty to just go murder someone and if we agree that it's murder because it is it's a life It's so you're murdering a life. They can't fight back Then that's like one of the most basic things that should be outlawed now the consequences That's like a whole different topic because there's people, you know People say oh, we don't want to lock up the mothers. We want to lock up the doctors But I mean realistically if we're agreeing that it's murder The mother murdered like just she hired the hitman So like if you're being logically consistent if like what so I don't know what the con that's the hard thing I don't know what I would prefer like that were want the consequences to be do you have an answer for that? That's something I struggle with or do you even think it should be outlawed start there? Yeah, yeah, I appreciate the the courtesy of the respect. Yeah, I think I love I think abortion should be outlawed I don't think but well, let me say this I don't think it's a federal issue the supreme court should have never waited on in the first place I think this is actually trump's position to position to for a long time If I'm not mistaken we can look that up But yeah, I don't think the federal government has no business dealing with it unless them tillers the constitutional amendment 10th amendment for example pushes all these things explicitly to the states So it should be a states rights type of issue for each state to determine Now there could be a constitutional amendment for it that gets made but those are hard to get passed What I like to see that Potentially the the issue of federalizing things is once you bump into the federal government Like people want to for example, I love guns But people always want to like they want to like federalize you know constitutional carry nationwide with the federal government And to me that's dangerous because if 10 years go by and you get a super hardcore again You know democrat left-wing thing they could then pull that and the states are fucked because you've already You've punted it to the federal government. So it's dangerous. It's dancing with the devil basically I totally agree with you So something I always do and this like kind of stems from like my whole like moral political philosophy is I always You know, I treat people how I want to be treated I always try to put myself in the other person's shoes like if I have a friend that's complaining about a situation I'll put myself in the shoes of like the person they're complaining about And not just like take their side or whatever to be like devil's advocate or whatever I will truly tell like if my friends are wrong in a situation I'll tell them like I'm not I'm loyal to people But if they're wrong, I'll be like you're wrong and I'm not just gonna like you You know take your side because we're friends. I don't care about that. I'm principal whatever So I take the same approach to where you have to always picture the worst-case scenario if the other side's going to Do it to you So okay, I would love to federally outlaw abortion because you know It should you shouldn't be able to we should not be legalizing murder But the second you grant that power to the government just imagine it's the worst person that can also now take that power So that's so I always say too and I truly believe this that most people Would be fine having a dictator as long as it's their preferred dictator So they'd be fine with the dictator as long as you know pushing out policies that they want But you always have to remember the second that you grant your government or someone that power Just picture the worst possible person taking that power and now being able to do whatever they wanted Do you want that no? So that's why you should want federalism and leaving leaving all these decisions to the states because it makes it a lot Harder to have such a broad impact on everyone and you can you can more easily move to a different state That you agree with versus a different country, which we're probably still the best country in terms of freedoms and stuff Yep, especially in florida. I fucking love it. I'm amazed how good the sand is I voted for him in 2018 I thought he'd be a little bit better than rick scott, but he's been fucking savage. I love it down here Yeah, he really represents florida ronda sand is a florida man to the bone Like that is like peak florida man And I agree in a positive way. Yeah, he definitely embodies the florida man persona. So He's been very impressive. Yep. Yeah, he's been uh, I love him so much Let's uh, let's argue a little bit more about fine rand So we're talking about I ran earlier and you mentioned I've seen you tweet about it And you mentioned here on the show too We're talking about movies and art and people pretending, you know, everyone wants to spend your time on that So I think you should actually look into if you haven't I ran's views on art It would actually I think it would challenge what you currently believe a lot For example, she was a famous quote. She said that art is fuel for man's soul And obviously she was a fiction writer, which is art out the shrug is art You know, this has a lot of philosophic takes in it. That's very important. I ran the only exceptions I made I found head and Alice shrugged. Yeah, I promise you though. There's more out there She was she loved art. She considered herself both a novelist and a philosopher equally And she was adamant about that because people always want to pigeonholer one way or the other Yeah on the show I titled it liberty extremist and anti-feminist To me this seemed to be both very important to him That's why I titled it that way and people met when a box you went eventually to one of the other But if they're both important to you should keep both of them in your limelight You know, they both are like as equally. I mean, maybe I would say the liberty thing is more Like um more important to me out of everything, but I do talk about feminism a lot and it's very important to me So yeah, I definitely will read up on that because you know, I have taken some Different approach towards art. I used to I mean, I would never go to like an art gallery, whatever But I have seen because I like that's why the whole paleo thing. I love like the traditional art like the You know roman art, you know, you know traditional type things like I love that and whenever I see like art pieces like that on twitter I'll like retweet it because I'm like, oh, that's so beautiful And it just shows how like disgusting like everything in the modern society has become so I have like grown to appreciate it Kind of in rejection of the modern takeover of you know buildings and architecture and art So I have grown to appreciate it a little bit more Yeah, and I was when I was younger too, I would have said the same thing But as I've aged and especially as I've seen the woke left and these feminists and all these fucking weirdos They attack art for a reason because it undermines the culture whether it's movies use this propaganda Or even just you know making everything bland and boring it makes life less interesting Right. No, I totally agree with you Yeah, and there's more too the fountainhead. There's a movie for example. You should watch it My dad has done that. Yeah It's really the new the outlet shrug movies suck. They came out in like 2000s or I don't know 10 years ago or something They're pretty shitty at least they got made but the fountainhead the savage Iron rand personally wrote the script for and direct She didn't direct it but she was present like a whole fucking set every scene everything got the movie. She loved it So yeah, michael malz is a huge rand fan. He has all of her books and he has her like original copy of the fountainhead He's like a collector of all of her stuff. So he's like a huge crazy like iron rand fan. So you should definitely look up He's he's great. He's very funny. He's he's also a troll, but he's like a walking encyclopedia He was born in like the soviet union russia Damn I'm actually looking at an original copy of the fountainhead in front of me right now too. I have one too Oh, wow He was like one of like there's how many of them though like there's like 10 or something I don't know not not that early. It's the first edition like the first year it came out Okay, the first 10 jesus. Okay. Well, he has like one of the first 10 like he's like crazy So, I'm not that I love iron rand, but I'm not gonna go buy I'm not gonna hunt down $10,000 for some shit. I don't care same. I don't care again I don't care that much either that I would never like I wouldn't even need like an autograph I'm like it's a signature Yeah, so, uh, sorry closing out. Yeah, it's interesting. Let's start closing out here. So What are the plans you have for your life coming up? You're 22 You've been I have to say working with project veritas. Uh, I'm just seeing that, you know, it's you work with prairie view, you know What do you think of that video? Oh Yeah, that's pretty hardcore. I love james. Okay, he's cool. He's uh, he's Right now. Yeah, what was that? He's he's peak alpha male. He's peaking in his life. He's fucking kicking ass You know, he's doing he's doing great and yeah that video I'm like not a dancer or anything I thought I was gonna have to dance and do choreography Thank god I didn't have to because I would have looked like such an idiot because I just can't like I can't take myself seriously But yeah, no, he's awesome. Um, I don't know so that video though that that video really pushed I was laughing my ass off when I saw it. So it really Yeah, it's good. I mean it's fun. It's it's good. It's just like damn this pushed it like so far so hard He wasn't doing what he's doing now. He would be like in theater like he was like made for that He like loves that stuff like loves like the dancing and Princeton like that sort of thing. So not what I like. I was like the first prince song I've ever heard so Not not my thing, but obviously I would love like working with james and project veritas They're doing the hard work like they're actually making a difference. So I love what they're doing Yep Yeah, I want to uh, I invited james of the day I met some of the project veritas guys at cpac And I want james to speak and my men's can mention to the men not even about Well, sort of a project veritas, but the story and what he's done to do that. I think he's very heroic No, I don't agree. He's he's awesome. Like I really so you your friends with him Uh, no, I haven't met him or anything now. Oh The fist felt me at cpac and I I was filming shit. I missed I felt bad. I was like, oh, I love this guy I just fucked this guy over jesus. Yeah, he should definitely speak at your thing Yeah, I just know what I would like I don't like to speak. I don't even know what I would say Like that's the thing I feel like everything I do is so stupid. Like what would I say? That's up to you now. You have to speak to the woman. You can't speak to the men. You can only speak to the women Oh Explaining no woman's planning our conventions. I know I don't want to like go hang out with a bunch of women There'll be there'll be other events going on, you know at the same time You'll you'll see other uh people there, but the women there They're mostly there's a few feminists that come to fuck around or whatever. They don't cause any problems I wouldn't let them just kick them out But it's a lot of women who are very anti-feminists I mean fundamentally like make women great again is positive for women. It's positive femininity Then it's anti-feminism to the bone And I want to abolish feminism. That's like one of my goals in life over the next 30 years That's a great goal. Thanks the women there though. They they're very much They wouldn't be there. They have to fly most of them don't even live in florida They fly in from around the world and the country and stuff So and the same for the men's events. So it's it's like-minded people that are really like fuck feminism They're so happy that they are willing to fly to go to this convention Yes, exactly travel like, you know, you went to CPAC. It was a big deal for you. Yeah, I know I know that's what I'm saying. I'm like, oh, it's such a trip to have to go to florida Yeah, for me, it's like 20 minutes. So it's pretty easy. Yeah, must be nice privilege Yep, and I go to the beach 45 minutes. I fucking love it one of my friends I've she lives at the beach is watching the show right now. Tony Bruno. Oh really? I mean The beach is okay. I don't really like sitting out there doing nothing all day Yeah, I love the beach. It's fucking I was like, like tan Yeah, yeah, you kind of you were talking about the orange thing or something here. So grandma saw Oh, yeah, I know that people always love there's like some filter on tiktok And I love using it because it just I get so many comments orange You're so orange like you're a favorite dictator or whatever. I'm like, yep orange like daddy trump That's exactly what I'm going for. Thank you. I'd rather be orange than pale Yeah, I'm not really orange. It's a filter Are you like Italian or something or what are you? Yes? I'm allegedly from what my parents tell me I don't want to be a liar like Elizabeth Warren I want to get DNA test because I feel like what if I'm lying like what if I'm gonna get Elizabeth Warren, but so I'm allegedly 50% Italian 25% British people think I'm Irish because of Riley. It's British and this is like the wild card. I'm 25% Egyptian. That's the wild card So allegedly, allegedly, you're you're like an african-american. Okay. I'm literally an african-american I'm african african-american. Yes. I'm african. I'm literally black Yep, congratulations. Yeah, I know you're climbing the victim hierarchy ranks like hard courier. It's amazing I actually want to make a video like talking about how african. I am just to piss them off You should I know Yeah, I had I had the DNA test do a ton a couple years ago and I found out I was 15 jewish, which was a surprise That's a shame I don't feel like paying for the hundred dollars. You're a jew hater I like don't want to pay a hundred like that's the thing like I want to know but I don't pay a hundred dollars I gotta wear my clothes Yeah, that is what it is Anyways, it's been a lot of fun talking to you. It's been a great interview Yeah, it's been a lot of fun talking to you. It's been a great interview Yeah, so people should follow you for example, where should they follow you? You're on twitter here, obviously Isabella Riley. Let me pull this up Yeah, it's Isabella Riley us and then on instagram and tiktok. It's Isabella Riley us a the it's too long for twitter And I can't get one streamline, you know username across all platforms drives me crazy But that's where you can find me and probably the most active on twitter So it's definitely the most active on twitter. I mean correct You're driving tiktok. Yeah, you so you have one band too. You're still at 131k here. It's pretty cool Yeah, I mean tiktok's okay. It's fun, but I mean, it's fun. It's fun tiktok's fun, but it's super random Cool Yeah, anything else you'd like people to know or where to find you you're on youtube. What's the username for youtube? I don't even know my username on youtube is like I just Isabella Riley I don't even know like I just posted two tiktoks on there a while ago But I do have a new show on sensor.tv with Gavin Watt We have the pilot episode out right now. It's like 52 minutes of us arguing Which is how it will be pretty much because he's more of a populist conservative I am uh, you know libertarian So we we agree on most things like we want the same things But we have also many disagreements about government intervention and stuff. So Yeah, definitely watch that you can also watch like our appearance on Gavin McInnes's show His that show is like called compound censored and it's you can see me uncomfortably try to rate myself. So Yes, the comments are great comments to the comments roast me. They're amazing. Love it You're uh, you seem skilled and I admire it, you know just pissing people off and angering people and all these shocked things It's very useful like trumpets. That's good. I love it. It's it's a you know, guilty pleasure of mine Yeah, I want to wrap up everybody else watching. I appreciate all the comments and the chats super chats all those things Follow me on twitter. I had beach muscles and instagram beach muscle 65 I don't like instagram, but I do post some stuff and of course subscribe to the channel. Appreciate you guys tuning in Isabella, you can stay on the line. I'm gonna like end the stream now Get that guys and tune in tomorrow for red man group actually talking about art with Arthur Kwan Lee a conservative artist Trump guy up in new york looking forward to it Isabella, thanks a lot. I appreciate your time. Thanks for having me on