 Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop tech talk number 54. I can finally spell out with my hands again. Yeah, it's you know 54 That we stop we were gonna get like a little scoreboard for this. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't do it anymore. Yeah, okay Anyway, we've got lots to talk about tonight Georgia has his tech update We're gonna talk about Checking your settings because boy, do we get lots of interesting phone calls and and emails from people who are like It sounds like this. We'll talk about that and of course, we'll take your questions from Facebook from YouTube from Clubhouse we know we got people on Clubhouse who are just Chomping at the bit to ask us questions Especially after the interview we did with Danny Burnside last week. So stay tuned tech talk coming up on voiceover body shop right now from the outer reaches They came Bearing the knowledge of what it takes to properly record your voice over audio and Together from the center of the VO universe. They bring it to you now George Wittem the engineer to the VO stars a Virginia Tech grad with the skills to build set up and maintain the professional VO studios of the biggest names in VO today and you Dan Leonard the voiceover home studio master a professional voice talent with the knowledge and experience To help you create a professional sounding home VO studio and each week They allow you into their world making the complex simple Debunking the myths of what it takes to create great sounding audio Answering your questions showing you the latest and greatest in VO tech and having a dandy time doing it Welcome to voice over body shop Tech talk Voice over body shop tech talk is brought to you by voice over essentials.com home of Harlan Hogan signature products Source elements remote studio connections for everyone voice actor websites.com where your VO website isn't a pain in the butt Vio heroes.com become a hero to your clients with award-winning voice over training J. Michael Collins demos when quality matters and voice over extra your daily resource for VO success and Now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are the guys Well, hello there, I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Whidham and this is voice over body shop or VO B. S. S. Tech talk talk tech talk. We love to talk tech Because that's what George and I do You know, it's what we do good questions. Yes questions are really really what we really like having here on the show We did a clubhouse with with Danny Burnside last Friday and we ran it all all this week as our podcast and Love the questions people give us but you know, I think that's the basis of our relationship George It's it has to do with well. What's the question and you know, we now know all the answers It's I mean the answer is always there. Well, we've always seemed to know the answer We know them doesn't mean we can remember them all More than what we've learned. I know that's the problem really I'm gonna try to make a machine learning AI version of my brain one of these days if anybody knows how to do that Hit me up. Would you? All right. That's the last thing we want. We do not want to talk about AI. That's a home Yeah Anyway, but you gotta realize George and I do this all day, especially today. It was busy today It's like I'm sitting there working on all sorts of stuff and the inbox in my specimen collection cup Just kept filling up with people saying how's my audio hot and it was from people all over the world and You know and and I take the time and I want to listen and you usually within Five to ten seconds. I know exactly what's going on in somebody's studio. I mean we you and I have heard it all I mean it's like and it's like what is that noise? Well, it could be this this or this but it's probably not that But if you really want to learn how to record Trouble-free now if you were listening last week, we had Kevin Gershon on The producer from CBS and he was getting into some really geeky stuff About what Mike to use and again we'd like to remind you that it's not the mic that's gonna get you the work It's what goes on between your ears into your lungs and out your vocal cords and and I think he made it pretty clear If your interpretation is right and your mic's not right He's gonna go with interpretation over the mic, which I was very glad to hear because that's what I keep telling people You know, it's not the mic that does that But if you want to learn how to do it properly and it's very very simple We've broken it down into some very simple steps on how to make sure that your audio is right or if you have a technical issue say you've built your booth and you've got all this equipment and You're like, how do I use it which is probably the problem? I think most people probably run into it's like well I got this you know this 14 channel board and all this stuff and how do I use it? And you bought this why? so we can usually break those things down and solve them for you and Make sure that you were using them correctly And if you would like to work with mr. Whitham George the tech How would they get in touch with you? Why my name is my address that makes it George the dot-tech. I try to make it easy George the dot-tech. It's weird to say on the phone, but when you see it written out it makes sense I've got the ways to schedule time with me. I've got my sound check I'm the most affordable way that you can work with Dan and I is through sending us a sound check You can have audio processing setup design a studio room acoustics I have my acoustics tune-up service where I'll listen to the room and suggest a plan For how to tune that space better whether there's nothing in it or you just bought a booth and it doesn't sound the way It's supposed to So those are some of the ways I can work with you Dan also does a lot of the same things over at Home voice over studio dot-com right there. It's the place home voice over studio dot-com Look at all the services that I offer. You know a lot of it is just I feel like a therapist most of the time You know people are like, you know, how do I get into voiceover? How do I do this? How do I do that a lot of times that I'm sure you discovered this as well George when we're talking to people Helping them with their studios a lot of it really gets into what is the meat? You know the real meat of the voiceover business itself and what it really takes to succeed and I do talk a lot about that along with getting your audio sounding nice and clean because everybody's like obsessed with this thing about broadcast quality And I think we've come to the conclusion that broadcast quality means it doesn't sound bad It means somebody will pay you for the audio that they're gonna put on the air That's what broadcast quality Yes, well, we've had some a little bit of construction going on here at the the voiceover body shop Yes, you have a new cave on the product on the premises. It's not a cave It's a she shed she shed. Sorry not not a lady cave. Is she she shed? Yeah, no the the missus was like I Have no privacy here because our other son is now living here So we got four people living in this in this house. I and there's no privacy sometimes I mean I get to escape out here to the you know the the fortress of solitude and You know and Jacob has his room and Lewis has his room although he's all over the house Marks I can't have a private conversation on the phone Right, so instead of building an addition tough shed built a shed back here You drywall it in suddenly you've got a hundred and twenty square feet more space How long did it take to get one set up? Well, we ordered it a month ago. It took about six hours to actually bring it into our backyard and set it up, so Can't beat it. Yeah, and I've and I've actually worked in a bunch of these types of things if you drywall it and insulate it and stuff like that and it's you know way away from the street like in your backyard you can build a You know a You know a moving blanket booth and that and they work fabulous. They really are I mean It's essentially like a very simple tiny house that very has the exterior built and you want to build the interior It's a DIY Interior situation exactly exactly so now she has her she shed and Now she can go have private conversations. She's gonna be happy. Yeah, I hope so anyway We're here to talk about home voiceover studio tech as somebody once said who wants to listen to a show about that Well, ten years later. We're still doing it. What's up in your tech update this week? All right, it was some really weird distracting noises outside I heard you're not did you did it make it through the gate? It sounded like somebody yelling, but jeez Louise. Well, that's actually something I can mention Okay, I am I'm in the process of I've talked about it a lot But I think I'm feeling extra motivated now all of a sudden for some reason the hell is going on out there To to finally do some window soundproofing in here My initial idea was to go overkill and build a wooden frame that would entirely surround my two windows You know make this very large Contraption and I thought mmm. That's kind of scorched earth very big solution heavy Complicated difficult to take down that was the other thing. What if I want to open the window really hard to take down? So I'm gonna basically DIY an indos setup Indos is a really interesting company They make very well-designed windows inserts At Indo windows comm now. I didn't stutter Indo windows comm Very well-designed very good product and they have an excellent way of having they can send you this kit to pre-measure or Measure the opening that you're gonna be using and it's really precise But I thought I would save a little bit of dough and try to do it myself So I found a plexiglass supplier Here in the Santa Monica area and I've taken measurements and I'm gonna have them cut me at two pieces of quarter inch plexi now It's not very thick. It's not super dense But to go up a layer or a thickness from there was double the price So I'm doing about a hundred. It's about a hundred dollars a piece to do my two windows And I've got some weather stripping stuff that I found at Home Depot and I'm gonna give it a shot I'm gonna put handles on it and make it so I can put them in and take them out when I want to open windows or clean windows and things like that and Anyway, I'm feeling extra motivated to finish that. I also got some gym mat material, which I found at Home Depot They sell it looks like a like a three-foot wide Rubber floor mat that you might roll out, you know for the entryway of a building But it's actually much much thicker and denser material And it's really intended for like a fitness area where you want to have weights and put them down on the ground maybe drop them and My plan is to actually hang that on the inside of my office door So if all goes well I'll have been able to hang that over the inside of my office door without damaging anything Without putting screws in the frame or or whatever I'm gonna have to I'm gonna try to do it entirely by hanging it from the top edge of The door so that it's just there's nothing else attached And then the concept is that I want the rubber to extend around the entire perimeter of the door Maybe two inches. So when the door shut the rubber will pull up tight against the Trim what we call it the door or window casing trim, whatever and No frame. Yeah, so I'm hoping that My little idea is going to to help reduce sound coming from inside the apartment as well Because the doors are very very thin and just like you know, Marcy needs her privacy So does my girlfriend she needs to be able to talk on the phone and you know not disturb each other So maybe by next episode I'll have had a chance to do that and I'll I'm likely will document it too So you can see if you guys are hearing occasional static e-glitches and seeing them because I think there's a video glitch that accompanies the Audio glitch Dan have you noticed it tonight on stream yard from my feed? It's just a every now and again. Yeah It's doesn't it's so the video doesn't freeze. Okay. I don't know what it is I will put it out there that I don't know what it is, but I will say the only thing that has changed Since that started is swapping out my old Mac mini 2018 which isn't really old at all for a new Mac mini M1 That's really the only thing I have changed in my setup since then and now I'm having that issue And it only seems to happen in stream yard, which is running on chrome. So Apparently Jeff confirmed that the video glitches as well So there's some audio and video glitch and what's weird about that is the video is one device. That's the This little box. They're ultra recorder by ultra studio And the audio is going through the road caster So maybe there's like a missync thing. I don't know what it is but I have to do a lot more research to figure out why it's happening, but why I'm aware it's happening and I'm gonna look for updates, but I still have my old 2018 Mac So if I don't find a solution by next week, it might get plugged back in to do the show, which would make me really sad Yeah, my I'm wanting to still run in here. I mean And you're not having the same problem. I am not having the issue Of course, my camera is going directly into my computer So using a simpler camera maybe that might really be the solutions for me to to get a brio Logitech brio 4k camera just like that. Don't I look fabulous? It works fantastic. Yeah, it looks really good Absolutely Well, the Apollo whoosh update I've talked about this already But if you have an Apollo and you have had the whoosh problem I don't need to go into what that means because you know who you are I'm gathering data on those who have had the issue. I'm creating like this this big spreadsheet including sound samples So if you want to be a part of that go to George the tech go to the vio tech services Go to the very bottom look for the Apollo service page And on that page there is a form you can fill out and submit Your ticket number and any information that I that you can to give us some history I'm going to gather all this information and present it to somebody high enough up at the universal audio company to hopefully I don't know get replacements or Get them to own up to that fact that there's some kind of very wide technical issue That doesn't seem to be really being addressed very uh, directly So anyway, that's uh, if you're part of that crew and lastly and then dan and I have a bunch of stuff We want to talk about I've discovered that if you have an sm7b And you've not listened to us, but you're still trying to use them and you're using it with a cloud lifter Try it Without for a change Um, I found that with this particular user. She was on a mac when she used her sm7b without the cloud lifter Yes, the level was quite low coming into the scarlet But it was a cleaner signal. We didn't have any buzz We've had an issue with buzzes sometimes with the cloud lifter and we didn't have um, we didn't I wouldn't I wouldn't Consider the noise floor unacceptable Especially since she was doing audiobooks and she was doing Characters in the audiobooks. So she was very dynamic sometimes quite loud And so when I had to read a passage, you know laugh, I always tell people dan laugh for me Because when they really laugh when they They really that's when the lows go wham I mean that they slam off the top of the The meter and I said, okay set your gain for that and then we go from there And when we did that we got what I considered a clean recording. It sounded good Uh, again levels being low overall, but it ended up working out. Okay So moral of the story is if you did end up buying an sm7b Um, and you bought a cloud lifter and you're having some issues with noise Just try it without the cloud lifter and just get an alternative test to that And uh, see how well it works out for you if you're recording Asmr or soft spoken voiceover. It is not the right choice or if you're billy eilish Yeah, if you're soft smoking it is not the right choice But if you're projecting and then you're doing characters and stuff it can still work out, um pretty well So dan Something came in the mail Is that right? Oh, oh, oh, yeah I'm like, oh, what's talking about? Oh, no Yes, sweetwater catalog. Oh the bathroom catalog. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, you know, what have you seen? I'm looking at their new what's new, uh, you know, you know Recording equipment page on there. You know, it's I guess it's sort of like reading playboy, which I only read for the articles Yeah, we're only reading it for the gear gear care stuff. Right, right exactly Um, right. We're not shopping. I'm going through here and I'm like, yeah, there's one of those Yeah, there's one of those. Oh, I remember we saw one of those at nam. Oh, yeah, there's that, you know There's another cheap shotgun mic. Exactly. There was another cheap ribbon mic There's a lot more shotgun mics now. Yeah, they're sure aren't there You know, it's I had the sort of love hate relationship with sweetwater if I need something I can buy it from there But when somebody goes in there and says I'm starting a home voiceover studio. What do I need? Uh, they usually end up with pro tools Uh, a u87 or a u87 ai depending on You know what they want to sell or an sm7 for that or an sm7 b It's you know, that one seems to be real prevalent great great microphone. If you're a singer Read the description in the catalog. It doesn't say it says it says adr, which isn't correct. Yeah, it says Um, uh, what did it say? There was a couple different categories. They listed But half of them were not correct Right. So yeah, that happens sometimes when the wrong folks are recommending gear to you So sweetwater is not any different from I mean, there's they're getting more educated over there, but For the most part we still say if you're going to go to these catalogs and these are websites Know what you're looking for right before and yeah or ask us Because generally we know what we like to work with and what's going to create the best sound for you Without too much effort the more detail something has the more complex it is uh The more it's getting harder is to learn how to use and you got to remember a lot of this stuff was designed Well one for music and for two People who had been training and using this kind of stuff and recording At a higher level and mixing and doing music and all that stuff for a long time And they understand what it is. You're not going to learn this stuff overnight And we just want to make it simple for you so you can concentrate on being a voice actor And not a recording engineer. You're not required to be a recording engineer. You just have to be able to record Competently and as long as your the acoustics in your room are right as long as you are using your microphone properly And you set your levels properly That's really all there is to it But you got to know what all those different parameters are and how you Make sure that you get it right within your particular booth But going through that catalog one thing became very very clear although I knew this was going to happen Lots of stuff for podcasting That oh, yeah, it's like cbs. You know now podcasting's every everybody's kind of have they're set up for for a podcast and A lot a lot more mics than say two years ago Uh, lots of different usm mics usb mics, you know usb mics have really come up in quality for doing podcasting uh I just found something That was surprising to me in the new equipment page and that was acoustical treatment. Wow Wow, so somebody's actually mentioning that. Yeah, exactly. And this is a brand new company to me So I have absolutely zero experience with this Acoustic is called a fulfillment. Yeah fascinating, right? Whoever they are convinced somebody at the buying one of the buyers at uh, sweetwater to put this in the catalog So that's no small feat It looks really interesting. Uh I can't tell by looking at the front of it. What's going on? I really can't I don't know is that a tube is that a Yeah, the photo just does not do a different justice at all. Here's the rear which doesn't look all that unusual It's an open back frame with with fiberglass in it. Yeah that you can hang. Okay. That's a base trap Essentially, but as you get a close-up look at it you start realizing. Oh, there's actually something else going on here So it's a relatively conventional oc 703 kind of thing under here, but then there's this curve Plastic thing in the front. So what I'm realizing is It's an acoustical panel and you can see it at the bottom now with a curved plastic diffuser on the front And so it says um, it's a combines absorption Uh diffusion and base trapping into a single Innovative design and by removing the flex shield diffuser you can control the acoustic liveliness Of your recording space at any time That's really okay. There we go. I'm starting to get a little bit So there's the normal panel There's the frame and then there's the plexi piece that tucks in And creates a curve Well, that's really fascinating sort of mix and match and like well, let's see maybe we'll put it over here Maybe we'll put it over there. Yeah, and look how dramatically different its performance is acoustically It completely changes the purpose of this thing and what it does. So All I can say is it'd be very interesting to experiment with these in a small room like in a Like in a voiceover booth and then I'm Stranging, you know, maybe put one of those shields in one spot And see what it sounds like. I wouldn't do it all the way around. It'd be way too live But um fascinating. It's it's neat to see some innovation in this space. Yeah, but studio suit did all that too Right, exactly Unfortunately studio suit is not all around it. Okay, now we see what it is now I really kind of see it But this is the kind of stuff you're going to find in the in the sweetwater catalog and the b&h catalog And it's sam ash and all these different places. They all want to sell you stuff And there's nothing wrong with that But they need to be selling you the stuff that's right for doing voiceover, right? The right that's right for voiceover and the right amount of stuff too Exactly I've dealt with other companies that you all well probably know Who spec out stuff for voiceover, you know, you can say the room is this big I'm doing this and this and they'll actually under spec Not enough absorption, you know, which is kind of funny. It's like, well, no, you could have sold more because we needed more So definitely talk to us before you you make that investment so we can Tell you what to buy, you know, we don't want to experiment with your room We like to experiment with what we're doing, but when you hire us, we're not We don't want to experiment with your money and your space We want to make sure we get it right the first time if we can right, you know, usually it's like Use what you got if it works Okay, well, yeah speaking is what you got love practical solutions, right? If you got a duvet sometimes it can do amazing things this room I'm in right now as a prime example of practical treatment. There's literally one purpose made panel Sorry, two purpose made panels in the whole room. One is over here And one is in the very back. You can see that one maroon panel. Yeah, this is a drape over here Over here is my closet. The doors are the sliding doors. Two of them, you know, the one side is open Right, so the clothing is there. I have a hugely cluttered shelving unit Right and then below me is a full-out futon bed Cool, you add all that together And you get a decently sound decent sounding much better there. I must say it's not quite exactly Yeah, it's it's practical stuff. We I love I love the combination of practical With purpose made stuff. Yeah, so if you go through the new catalog Look at it for It's it's purient value. Not necessarily it's pure value Um, I like you like that word. Yeah, it's perfect. Okay Uh, one other thing I wanted to cover tonight. Yes, because we had we had a a thing yesterday uh, where somebody was contacting us and Saying my my audio changed it happened twice with two different people Within all it happens over the weekend and it's like why I hit everything set and I used it And and then I came back and I used my computer again and record. It's all different You need to check your input settings. Let me let me show you your doll Right. Let me let me share my screen. Yeah, let me share my screen here. Okay. Let's see here. It's uh, We'll share uh, you gotta have a posted note attached to your monitor saying One Check the input setting in fill in the blank twisted wave, etc. Right. It yeah Every piece of software each doll has I think I need to stop sharing mine so you can share yours. Yeah, uh, every Well, it doesn't really matter. But in twisted wave, it's going to say what is your input? You know always go through your preferences before you start Don't assume that it's going to work, especially if you're on a laptop, especially if you're on a pc Uh, because it may change this it may may uh, you know change the settings a little bit Let me see if I can I can do this now I'm sharing I'm sharing twisted wave dam, but I don't know if you'll see the menus. Can you see this? Yes, I don't see you don't see the drop-down menus though. No, no But usually you know when you go into preferences, it's going to say what is your input? What is your output input and output are the most important things? Yeah input being the most important thing right and yeah, especially when you're recording Uh, but that seems to be the issue is people forget to check those things and of course the other one is Why does my audio sound so muffled? Try turning your mic around and talking into the right side. Oh my gosh. That's so common Well, yeah the the audio input is shoot now twisted wave is when uh, thomas with twist waves from working on this Um, I'm not sure if it's in all the versions or just the beta or whatever But there's a feature now where if the next time you launch twisted wave and you hit record If the interface that was last connected is not selected Or is it the one that was last select? No, if the one that was last selected is not connected It's gonna pop up a warning. Hey Last time you used to scarlet. Where's your scarlet? Which should be really really helpful A w-audition makes it a lot harder to screw this up because You guys at newt use audition know how it always nags you. Hey, you changed your audio device. Yeah, if you stop it Yeah, well, that's the problem is if you if you disable that message like permanently. I think there's a little checkbox Sorry, no more. It's not gonna nag anymore. Now. It's all on you. Um, but yeah, definitely check it in your actual dog Do not rely on system sound Or the default sound settings and windows Definitely definitely check it triple check it Never assume Never assume Uh, well, we assume that you have lots of questions for us So we're gonna take a break and we will get back to your questions Uh that have been written in and people on clubhouse. So stay too. 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You have a synology router on your end, which I had had several years ago as a test platform And then I brought it in there to solve some issues and it's been reliable ever since is that right? Yeah, I had no problem none And so I bought the the the newer update of that router and i'm using that now, which I do believe is the Synology rt 2600 ac wi-fi router and why it's not on my site I'm not sure those are a lot of those links are right from amazon their affiliate links and stuff and maybe That link went down or disappeared. I I don't know but I do still To say that I recommend it that is I use it. It literally is the router on my desk I'm I'm touching it right now. Ooh It's uh, I'm caressing it It's uh, it's highly reliable. Um, synology makes extremely well made gear that's still affordable It's probably the least expensive non Closest to like what we'd call enterprise grade equipment that you're going to find And um, but it's also very easy to set up. It has an awesome user interface It looks like almost like you're using a windows or a a mac computer where it has a click-and-drag mouse interface Uh, it's just brilliantly designed. So yes and along in the nutshell I definitely do still recommend the synology routers, I really recommend anything from Synology their disk station hard drives which you can use for a network hard drive solution to backup stuff Um, they have really really big complicated raid systems for video production I don't have it. It's good stuff. So yeah, Jeff. I do still recommend it for sure. Yeah We got me a questions on clubhouse. Danny Burnside. Who do we have over there? Did you get a dm actually Danny we did from greg and atlanta It says when opening up a new document in my DAW twisted wave, what bit and sample setting should I select? Good question. What do you stand? Uh, I use 24 bit and In 44 1k, uh, that's really the industry standard. I've seen a lot of 4800 these days Yeah, 48,000 is would be like video specific stuff Right like that's them in the sample rate and video production from the get-go. I guess But they're so cross compatible. Yeah that if you record one and they need the other You just simply resave it or export to the other version. There's no absolutely no Unlike saving to an mp3 for example Changing a sample rate from 44.1 to 48 k Will not degrade the sound quality really at all some geeky audio geek engineer person can speak up and tell me Well, there's dithering and I don't know whatever but no Um and Dave G is saying 16 bit for acx, you know, yeah, well, that's what they want delivered Yeah, I still doesn't mean I wouldn't record in 24 bit initially um, because I feel like that is the Because our hardware now is almost entirely 24 bit converters Right even down to the scarlet solo Yep, um because that's a 24 bit converter. I feel like recording in 24 bit makes a lot of sense You're capturing every little bit of the audio resolution. Ha ha and uh, you know, this seems to make the most sense hard drive space Yeah, it takes a little more But it's not really a it's not really a big consideration these days hard drive space is cheap Yeah Absolutely good question. All right. Now junlack now I I'm not sure I understand all of this question Because it's a lot of numbers. This is I'm looking for a perfect match with m149 I already have an adi 512, but looking for vt1 dw Well, he is looking for Gear sluts. Oh, and that's another piece of that's another piece of news actually Speaking of gear sluts if you go to gear slots.com It has a new name They chose to drop the sluts They did, um, you know, it's just Well, yeah, it's unfortunately obviously maybe not so obvious to everyone, but sluts is a negative connotation that's really directed to females mainly And they didn't want to be attached to that anymore after many many years. So they are now gear space dot com Much like the old domain, of course, it works Uh, which I just did because I didn't know what the new one was But if you go to gear space dot com That is an awesome place to ask a question Like that one because frankly We just we just don't get that into high high end Tube equipment. I will say I have I have met dug fern dw fern He is a really neat nice guy His equipment is insanely well designed and made. It's really expensive They're made one by one by hand 10 minutes from where I grew up in pennsylvania. So You know How could I not recommend it? But honestly, uh, it's kind of it's kind of uh The first time I saw dug fern gear was actually In the studio of a voice actor Many many years ago And I was like, what is that? Um, I mean the gear is made like To a degree of quality that is just no longer seen, you know, every component inside has a wire going to it That's been hand-spotted. We call it point-to-point Construction there's no pcb. You know, there's no circuit board printed in there It's everything somebody plugging different things in a switchboard and yeah, everything is hand-wired Point-to-point. It is incredibly High quality stuff. So hey, is it a good match for an m149? I have no freaking clue, dude But it probably would work fine. Um, yeah, I would like to I would like I get again It's a good question for gear space and some of the other really high-end Audio equipment forums. Yeah, let's go back to clubhouse. Who do we have next? Let's see. Nobody's queued up yet, but let's see if dany has anybody We do have one more direct DM our large our large diaphragm mics generally warmer compared to shotguns Uh What what do you mean by? That's such warm Here's here's my two cents and I'll let you go take it dan. Okay a large diaphragm condenser mic If you're talking about a cardioid mic Can't have a warmer sound because of that's proximity effect I think of this Exactly. That's what I think of when I think warm You can get up into the mic and it will build up that low end and it will have a That's what I think of when I think of warm now Dan is do you feel the same? What are your thoughts on that? You know, I mean you're talking on a shotgun mic right now Yeah, and I am talking on a harlan hogan via 1a by the way um and What's warm the fact of the matter is is we don't talk to people This close one this close and two You know what what really is warm when it comes to your voice you either got a warm voice or you don't And if you have a more nasal voice, yeah, maybe that's not considered a warm voice Right now. I remember the principle at my at my elementary school mr. Schwab This guy would walk into the room And he would start talking and the room would rumble and he was just talking in a normal kind of a quiet But the room would rumble that's a warm voice is resonated with the room And it resonates. It's amazing eight years later. So I mean, wow I mean that but that's the kind of thing if you got the pipes The idea here's the thing Don't fall in love with your voice let your microphone fall in love with your voice You know you are who you are the idea of and we say this all the time The idea of your home voiceover studio is not to make you sound great It's to make you sound like you and every time we hear something It's like well, I want to sound warmer or I want to sound this or I want to sound that a lot of that stuff can really be done in post um You want to capture you as you exist And any good studio condenser mic You know, that's over 200 I would say will capture you and can be adjusted to sound the way it's supposed to sound and So I You whether you got a shotgun or or or a large diaphragm condenser Generally to me, I could never tell a difference, but I'm old and I'm deaf and I you know, who knows But I listen to an awful lot of audio and I can hear the differences you know In different people's audio and most of the time it's something physical It's how they're using the mic in the environment in which they're using it and the levels they're setting And that's what makes the difference in all this stuff So the way you address the mic is going to change it a lot. So like, you know, I have this mic Pointing almost straight into my mouth right now. So it's going to have some brightness to it Right if I was to point it more or less downward like this It's a little warmer. It's going to be less sibilant, right less less present sounding and and slightly warmer So just by repositioning the mic you already have in your case of 416 You can get a little bit more of a warm sound. Um But a 416 is not By definition or designed to be quote-unquote warm. So there's other ways of course eq Um, if I was setting up your eq and you were saying I want to get this certain sound Then I could add a little bit more in this range at the lower end maybe smooth out the top. So it's not quite as crisp Not quite as maybe even sibilant or picking up sibilance. So There are ways there are ways to adjust it in different different methods, right? I mean when I listen to people's audio, I listen to hear their voice Do I hear them clearly? Is there something interrupting with the clarity of their voice? Not is it, you know, is it, you know, too warm or is it too crisp or one of those things? It's like if I was in the same room with this person, this is what they would sound like And they generally don't sound like this If I was in the same room with them. So anyway Okay, rob rider Who has corrected us on his name pronunciation? Finally, thank you He says I have two. Yeah, because I know this guy does a lot of you know A live announced stuff. I have two u 87 ai's and a refurbished u 87 These are big Important because you should have 10,000 dollars with the mics everybody should right Other than 10 db lower gain on the original 87. They sound the same to me. Thank you I'm currently run my 87 directly into a personas studio live three, but I have a vintech 473, which is a Expensive mic print right would there be any advantage to use the 473 into a line input of a personas Does the 473 impart any different sound to the mic plugged into it? And yes, my name is pronounced rider. So I stand corrected You know the official retraction there um That's the if it's a good idea Yeah It's one of the there's only one way to find out rob try it and see if you like it better I know we'd have to hear a lot of ab's and comparing. Yeah, I offer a thing called mic check It's kind of a misnamed thing because it really it's it's for anybody wants me to compare multiple things So, you know a sound check send me a sample. I'll listen to a mic a recording But what I call my mic check is for people are like, well, I've got these options I've got these different mics. They all have these different switches on them. Oh, and by the way, I've got several different mic preamps That's what mic check is for so um, if you get a mic check from me, you can record in several different alternate versions Um, and dude, don't try to fool me with a blind ab I'm not swayed by what something costs or just label them clearly so I can really Rank it for you and stuff and I'll give you my opinion if it makes any difference at all I'm looking at the 473 and it's a four channel mic preamp. So it's four 73 or 73, which means it's an 11 73 style preamp Which means it's a neve style preamp. So it's four neve style preamps in one box Um, I'm sure it's fantastic Not 11 73 10 73 Um, but yeah, I'm sure I'm sure it's fantastic, but flavors taste sound wise. Yeah Yeah, send us a sample. Let's let's send us. You know, what would you do with that? Uh, singleton says Uh, vo from youtube is the ua apollo solo high pass filter more effective than the high pass filter needed High pass filter is totally adjustable. I mean you just it It is In it is one better than the other the audition one is yeah 100 adjustable from like doing almost nothing to like Fall off the face of you know a brick wall just once it hits your frequency It's going Um, the just the button on the apollo is literally a just a fixed setting that you cannot adjust Without using another plugin now you could use a plugin And you could fart around with it, but to make the answer simple No, the audition one is more Effective in that it's more flexible. That's more fine tunable Yeah, there's and there's there's you know with the with the spectrograph you can do all you can be really accurate Yeah, you know where we're what you're what you're cutting down And no and the thing is is you use a high pass filter to cut out the the rumble It's always better to find out what's causing the rumble You can eliminate it from the source by all means it's it's your heating ventilation and air conditioning Your refrigerator or your neighbor's harley davidson Um, yeah, or a neighbor really should drive as opposed to running it in his backyard Yeah, yeah, um Yeah, I mean there there are reasons why I let I mean I if you've got a tlm103 plugged into an apollo solo almost every single time i'll tell you to press the the high pass filter and You know try to filter some of that out from the source That would be better than not using anything Yeah, um and that would make it easier to do things like source connect sessions and have that preemptively Removed yeah, um so that when you connect to the source connect and you open up your tlm103 And their subwoofer doesn't start going With whatever low-end noise Because that's a thing like you might be listening to yourself on your on your headphones They may not really reproduce those low frequencies Um depending on what headphones you have but as soon as you connect on source connect If there's a low noise a rumble issue or a really low frequency noise You connect to that studio and their studio monitors are going to go berserk So probably not a bad idea to use it in a lot of cases. Yeah, and some what's really bad is when you find Uh, you know a sub harmonic frequency under 80 hertz and then one at 90 And then something else at about 120 or 130 and you start building up on time It's like you've got multiple sources there find out what they are and shut them off Yeah, yeah, then people can't hear them. You you don't hear these these low rumbles because They're in the room They're ambient and your brain tunes them out Yeah, so and you can put on headphones and it won't matter because the sound of that whatever that tone is is still Penetrating through the headphones It's very hard. That's why that's why we can You can it penetrates so well and you can really filter it Out we can hear it very very well and also we know what to look for on the spectral view right in audition So it's very easy to find so since your samples. Oh, we got wait. Wait. We almost missed our clubhouse We got one house question in love the clubhouse and it's somebody we know it's Danny who is it's pilar pilar pilar Hello again Hello, welcome back Okay, I am I have a 10 year old iMac It won't go past high seara. Um, it's got 20 gigabytes of memory because I put some in um, so it's pretty much it's not on its last legs, but i'm having trouble with uh upgrading now and so um The lovely much that's your trouble That's why you're upgrading Well, I wanted to get um, uh a mac mini Mm-hmm. Oh, I mean upgrading hot. You want to buy another computer. You don't mean just upgrading software No, no. Yes. I want to upgrade and so my question is so I've been looking at a mac and um Right now. I'm using basically in terms of storage. I have I'm using half of my available Storage, which is um 500 gigabytes And so my plan is to go for something like 16 gigabytes of unified memory Um a terabyte of storage um Well, only because if I get the 512 I'm going to use it up right away. I won't have anything left You said you're using half of 512 or or half of one terabyte. I'm using half of one terabyte. Oh my oh, okay Yeah, um, so And you know, they they offer pre-installed software, but that just gets to be that's yeah, don't worry about that stuff Yeah, so my question is How much of a learning curve is there in terms of What i'm gonna put i'm gonna what i'm going to take off of my iMac and put on to my mac mini I know that um Dan you were mentioning the rosetta in terms of how to How so everything can be sort of in harmony. Well, yeah, if you go into big sir There's george has explained that a few times. They've got a program that translates older programs To to big sir, right? Yeah, but it can't translate all On all programs. So what what's gonna happen is you're gonna install So what you're probably going to want to do is migrate Your old system to the new system because it's the easiest way to get it started It's not necessarily the best Really the best is starting completely from scratch and an installing only What you need and not migrating in old stuff and old problems But I will say that when I got my m1 mac mini Because I wanted to get it to take a shortcut and I wanted to get it up and running quickly. I did Migrate from my time machine backup of the old mac mini 2018 to the new m1 And most of it worked out okay, but if you're coming from a really old system like sierra Actually, I ran into this exact scenario just two weeks ago for david k We had a 2011 mac mini Got on the new m1 mac mini I did a system migration from time machine And immediately the first apps that came up that were obviously not going to launch were his microsoft office apps from 2010 or whatever they were they were old, right? They just show up as nope not going to happen like there'll be a line through them or whatever So you're going to discover when you go to a new system like that when you jump forward that many years There's bound to be some apps that maybe you've always expected to just work Just no longer work but um There's so many workarounds for office. There's open office and I don't I don't even use it. I use I use word on my on my laptop So in order in other words your advice would be to basically start completely fresh and not migrate That is the most guaranteed way to have as few surprises as possible It's because you're installing to do it, but yeah, it's not the fastest time wise But you're you're installing each thing that you know, you need as you need them or maybe hopefully before And just so that everything you're installing is the newest the latest the version made for m1 Because when you migrate everything over a lot of these apps are going to be the prior generation apps that weren't made for The silicon and one and you have to update all of those apps And it may not even be obvious to you and they might still be running in rosetta mode so In the end it may not actually save A lot of time to to migrate it over because that's what I found I found I had to update a ton of apps and I had to figure out which is working, which isn't Um, so maybe it would have been easier just to install only what I need But I was just feeling a little too lazy and I think I have just too many damn apps I because I teach on all these platforms. I've got every DAW I just didn't want to have to reinstall everything. So I I migrated over and it was pretty well successful I just I just had to you know, the chrome the old version of chrome will still run But you don't know that there's a new version of chrome that will run better On silicon unless you install it yourself. So Gotchas there's gonna be gotchas, but overall I think if you start with a migration You can't go too wrong. Just be aware that you may run into some of those incompatible software problems Okay, and one last question What would you do if you were me with this iMac that you've had for 10 years? Is there anybody that you uh fail deserves a computer a niece nephew a school? Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's a great idea a grandmother or a grand mom or somebody that has a terrible Terribly running windows machine, you know, give it to them but an old iMac Just a real if the screen is still working. Well, if it's still booting and still running fine and yeah that Somebody would love to have that it works fine. It just doesn't and I can't get anything for it on the store You know at the if all they're gonna do is browse the web with it Um and use it as a youtube player and maybe watch netflix on it and you know It's fine. So does all that fine Okay, cool. All right. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you All righty. Well, we we have come to the end of another useless hour. I guess, uh Hopefully, uh, that's the way that that's a way to wrap up car talk, right? Right. We've wasted another perfectly good hour. It's Uh, no, we've if you had guys had any idea how much we enjoy talking to you guys and and giving you out this information and helping you out Uh, but we are available for professional consultation if you really want to learn the stuff inside out backwards upside down and sideways Uh contact george over at I'm over at george the dot tech And I'm over at home voice over studio dot com Well, that's gonna do it for us this week. Uh, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back to wrap it up So don't go away You're still watching v obs Hey there, it's david h. Lawrence the 17th with vo heroes and you may be watching voice over body shop v o b s Because you're interested in becoming a voice talent and you looked around the internet You found that this was a great place to come and you're absolutely right Um, but you don't have any of the knowledge yet as to how to get started and I'd like to help you with that I've got a free course online. 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