 Call to order. This is the 15th regular meeting of the 2011-2012 common council and as is customary our city clerk Sue Richards Will read the quote of the evening. Thank you, mayor We have a hope of succeeding if we learn from our past mistakes and pull together to make the hard choices Thank you, Sue roll call, please Belt boring here Carlson here Decker common Hammond here Heidemann here cut here Kittleson here Maddachuk here Racler here Samson here Ben Akron here Vanderbilt here and Percy here 15 press we have a quorum now if we can all join Alderman Maddachuk in the Pledge of Allegiance And to the Republic for which it stands Indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank You Kevin looking for approval of the minutes of the prior common council meeting president Decker Second, we have a motion in a second to approve the minutes under discussion There's no discussion all in favor of approval say aye Opposed motion carries mayors appointments attorney McLean Hereby submit the following appointments for your consideration to the business improvement district Cleo messener Eileen Simmons Caitlyn Bratz Mike Miller Mary Christian and Bill Holbrook Terms expiring 9 12 2014 signed by the mayor. Thank You Steve that lies over to the next council meeting. That is all for appointments Okay, moving on we have the election of Alder person For district 5 to fill the vacancy vacated by former council president Rindflesch Okay Would anybody Miss Lissard I know you put in your name for district 5. Would you like to speak to the council if you would like to please? I want to thank the mayor attorney Alder persons For giving me this opportunity to speak to you. My name is Susan J. Lissard I live at 5 0 1 6 Menning Road in Sheboygan, Wisconsin I own and operate JNS property management and I am a real estate broker and a property manager My home and my company are both located in district 5. I've lived in Sheboygan since August 15th, 1990 I currently manage a mandoline apartments I do all aspects of property management and have been on this property since it was built 12 years ago Amanda Lane is a six million dollar property. It is running a professional and a personal manner From accounts payable and receivable budgets as well as tenant relations for move-ins to move-outs I also negotiate and supervise all contractors and contracted work projects. I also manage several homes I've been doing property management for over 30 years and I've been a real estate broker for half that time in In addition to my professional life, I currently sit on four committees with the city of Sheboygan Send the board of review housing authority Marine and Harbor and the redevelopment authority I am also very proud that I have been and will continue to be a board member to the Lakeshore weekend since its creation I'm currently serving as secretary. We have now entered our fourth year raising funds for Milwaukee Children's Hospital Having had a very successful benefit last year held on South Pier Working in a wonderful compliment to all the business owners on South Pier and we were able to donate $90,000 to Children's Hospital I'm a 17-year member of the American Legion auxiliary and have served as membership chairman in the past I've worked on benefits in the past and continue to work with the Bridgeway program addressing the needs of domestic abuse in our city Some of my proudest moments has been to the benefit of our fine city Took 11 years But to see the safety needs of the corner of Weedon Creek and South Business Drive come to fruition to ensure a safer environment To those who choose to travel this corner with determination and patience the project was completed When the discussion to close the fire station that directly affects my district I organized a listening session It was there that we discussed and heard the needs and thoughts of my fellow citizens as well as received information Directly from the fire department that was in attendance I also joined in the efforts to keep fire station open and happily it remains open today I care very deeply about public safety and protection in my district and that and the entirety of our city Through the years, I've raised funds for our police department to purchase video camera Will it prove vests for our police dog and have fought to have one of their buildings donated to them? To say that I am proud of Sheboygan would be an understatement. I care what happens and how it happens I want to see Sheboygan move forward in a positive manner I feel that the voice of my district needs to be heard and I would like to be the one that's listening I Have the time and the ability but most importantly I have the desire and the concern I am involved and my involvement has and will continue to be a positive attribute to the city I ask for your favorable response and support in becoming the older person for district 5. Thank you very much Thank You Sue Okay, we will now Have the election process President Decker I move that nominations be received from the floor voting to be done by open ballot and if more than two candidates are nominated Candidate with the lowest number of votes be dropped from the list and Balloting to continue until one candidate receives the majority Second we have a motion and a second to open the floor Are there any nominations from the floor for older person for district 5? We are looking for nominations from the floor if there are no nominations the seat will not be filled nominate Susie Lissard We have a nomination. Do we have a second second? We have a motion and a second To nominate Ms. Lissard for older person of district 5. Do we have any other? nominations for older person from the floor Going twice any other nominations And as is customary three times are there any other nominations? If there are not President Decker, thank you, Mr. Mayor I move that nominations be closed and that we direct the city clerk to cast a unanimous ballot for Susie Lissard Office of all the person of district 5 We have a motion and a second To close nominations and cast a unanimous ballot for Ms. Susie Lissard for district 5 All in favor say aye Opposed no Okay, we have some eyes and some nose so we will go to We will go to a ballot Attorney McLean will hand out the ballots fill out your ballot and as Sue always says Sign and print your name so she can read it. Please fold it in half and pass it to your left By vote of the council the Council has voted not to Confirm Ms. Lissard for older person for the fifth district Therefore their the seat is not filled and I believe that it Would be up to the council, but it will not be filled for the remainder of this term which would be until April We had no other nominations or no other candidates Council has voted not To vote for Ms. Lissard to be the older person for the fifth district. It would be proper to hold another election We had three weeks for candidates to come forward Ms. Lissard was the only candidate to come forward and this council has voted not to Confirm Ms. Lissard as the older person Do we need to take a vote of the council to not fill this position? Steve or what do you what do you think? Yeah without The one candidate receiving majority I guess the option for the council would be to Take a vote to leave the vacancy Open until the next Next election the term is up the council has chosen not to Give the one candidate it's running a majority of the vote so therefore I Think it would be possible for the council to say well you still want to have another election, but give it a few more weeks I think that's Probably not fair to the the one candidate did Choose to So I would say that it would be in order to for the council to make a motion to leave the position vacant until the General election, okay, do we have a motion on the floor Alderman van Akron you hit? Yes, mr. Mayor, I just have a question for clarification Former Alderman Ryan flesh this seat doesn't actually that term runs until 2013 So both of those seats then would be up in this April's election if we leave it vacant I'm just saying what okay. Thank you Alderman versey. Did you have a mayor? Yes? I'd like to make that motion to leave the seat vacant until this coming April Second we have a motion in a second to leave the seat for the older person of district 5 vacant until the spring the April general election Under discussion if there is none all in favor say aye Opposed no Okay, let's do a roll call vote on that Sue yep, and I vote would leave the seat open a no vote I Will put it back under more discussion Sue, okay. Thank you belt Born hi Carlson. Hi Decker. Hi, I'm sorry. I'm in no Hammond. Hi. Hi to men. Hi Coss. Hi kiddleson. No Matochek. Hi racer. Hi Samson. Hi, Van Akron. No Vanderweel and versey. I 12 eyes three nose Motion carries. I thank you Sue Okay, public forum Sue this evening. We have three on our public forum first one will be delcy Johnson If you could come forward, please It's a little squishy over there Delcy can I have home address, please 1306 North 3rd Street, Sheboygan And you will have five minutes Mayor Ryan city clerk Richard city attorney McLean Alderman and citizens in April of 2010 when the council approved hiring Four more firefighters mayor Ryan promised to present a long range reorganization plan for the fire department by December 31st 2010 when the council negotiated no layoffs in 2011 for the department Mayor Ryan made that his excuse for not following through on his promise in Response to a request from Alderman born chief Herman presented his long-range plan options to the council in August Chief Herman seemed to support four stations Which would involve closing the downtown station and station number five and building a new station on 14th Street Complete with the community center and ice skating ring However, when he discussed the options that the strategic fiscal planning committee meeting on Thursday his original plan had changed Now his plan is to close the downtown station and the headquarters station and Build a new headquarters in four bay station in the vicinity of 17th and Erie or 14th and Niagara The strategic fiscal planning committee voted four to one to file chief Herman's long-range plan options in effect kicking the Can down the road again There will be four retirees in the fire department this year and chief Herman plans to replace them in April of 2012 It seemed to me that his main concern was how he would handle promotions if the council decides to close the station When Mayor Ryan first spoke of a long-range plan He expressed support for a half full-time paid and a half paid on call department Which would be accomplished through attrition and would take 15 to 20 years At Thursday's meeting chief Herman noted that he expects six retirements in 2012 and 8 in 2013 Suggesting that perhaps that would be the time to reorganize But why wait another year when when with four retirements you could start the restructuring process now This would most likely involve closing the station and chief Herman is determined that it will be the downtown station Which is the station that has the greatest number of calls? There are only three firefighters at the downtown station They cannot take any action until another unit arrives because they need four men on site to act But there are only two men at station number five So they also need to wait until another unit arrives before they can act Given that the downtown station receives the most calls It would make more sense to close the station with the fewest calls Resulting in fewer calls with the longer response time then to close the station with the most calls Resulting in the most calls with the longer response time in 2010 the department answered a total of 99 structure fire calls which averages less than two calls per station per month If the downtown station had 40s fire structure calls in a year There would be 40 calls with a longer response time and a station five had only five structure fire calls in a year There would only be five calls with a longer response time As for arguments about public safety issues in response times It is interesting that half of Sheboygan's firefighters live outside the city where they depend on volunteer fire protection for their property and family With evidently no concern about response times and personal safety issues Sheboygan has more fire stations per square mile than any other city of comparable size and population in the state of Wisconsin Sheboygan service area is 14.1 square miles and its five stations far exceed the number of stations for cities of comparable size and population by comparison Janesville is 28.1 square miles and also has five stations Beloit is 15.4 square miles and three stations Wausau 17.8 square miles three stations La Crosse 22.2 square miles four stations The average response time in Sheboygan with five stations is three minutes seven seconds with four stations The average response time would be three minutes fifty four seven seconds Chief Herman has cited the department's inspection and education programs as contributing to reducing the number of fire calls The taxpayers cannot continue to fund at the department for the worst possible scenario and the public would continue to be well Served with a reduction in the number of stations I hope that the council will agree to move forward with the reorganization of the fire department starting in 2012 The council is aiming to keep the projected tax living the same as this year But you need to do better than that lower assessed values will mean that property taxes will still rise Many of your constituents are losing their homes and are unemployed the city's unemployment rate remains at 9.1% The county unemployment rate is six point nine percent And statewide the unemployment rate is seven point eight percent The city's allocation to the Meade library will be a hundred thousand dollars less than last year because of Employee contributions to their retirement and health care the budgets for all of the departments should also reflect this change because of employee Contributions and undoubtedly there are other savings to be found in the proposed budget as well When I served on the council from 1980 to 88 the committee of the home at numerous times and reviewed the budget line by line I always found many items that could be eliminated and I'm sure you alderman could do the same There is still a deficit of nine hundred thousand dollars to be dealt with and I hope the council will not decide to use Reserve funds to make up this difference, but instead make further cuts to the budget. Thank you Next next on the list would be milk storm milk. Can I have your home address, please? Yes, it's 1736 Marvin court That's in Sheboygan and you will have five minutes, sir. Thank you Again, I want to thank mayor Ryan for this opportunity to address this council I may not be very cordial in some of the things I would like to address Previous councils have had some good resolutions and then other things in my opinion have been very dissatisfactory The recall and removal of a present mayor has been one of the dumbest ideas I have witnessed an experience in this city for the 50 years that I've been a taxpayer After speaking at the previous council meeting I again received an anonymous threatening and vulgar letter Being an all-army veteran. I'm now moving into action. I Would like to challenge the council to have former assisted us attorney, Steve Biscopit investigate me and Patrick Gillette in an open public forum Maybe something similar to a quasi judicial The citizens of Sheboygan need to know the truth about the recall process Also in regard to Sheboygan press articles and editorial letters the public needs factual rather than misguided and questionable information With the upcoming retirement the public works director bill Bittner creates another physical problem of finding a qualified department head as bill was even Jim Jim Amadeo has been given more responsibility that he doesn't need although he is very qualified in any task that he takes On with that maybe a reduced salary. I'm sorry. That's a little sarcastic humor You see my boss paid me in peanuts and sometimes I didn't even get the shell as a member of neighbors against drugs I serve a surveyed many Sheboygan neighborhoods to eliminate drug activity So it was my pleasure. I selected Chad Pellecek one Saturday to survey the Erie Hill neighborhood I educated him where all the drug houses were and were some residents. We would receive some negative responses To analyze recalls and improve the wellness of our neighborhoods Let me repeat a statement. I made it a previous public forum many about a year ago It is the wellness of our spirits and our souls that determines the wellness of our reasoning in our thinking In addition, there is no person that is so bad that God cannot say and by that same reason There is no one so good that doesn't need a little saving grace Do the right thing if you can and let's move forward and do the work that you are elected to do. Thank you Thank you, Mel next Dimple Adams would be last. Well, can I have your home address, please? Yes, it's Dimple Adams I live at 1424 Virginia Avenue And you will have five minutes. Thank you, and I am a taxpayer And I've lived there since the mid-80s and I've lived in the area since 1976 and I can hear you better tonight. My eardrum is no longer bruised I thank all of you Including the mayor city clerk Susan Richards and attorney steven clean and the council members for allowing me to speak tonight Also, thank you all for the service that you do for our city And that also includes that row on the back that group of people on the back row and some on the second row I am very grateful To live in a city that offers services and I feel that that's what we're all about I have two quick commercials before I get to the point of my letter One is if you have not been to the north south Play that's going on right now. Lay miss Robles the musical at North High School You need to get there They're going to be playing again on Thursday Friday and Saturday nights at seven and it is a wonderful production and The press needs to give it a little bit of attention also There's also another group of students that got together this summer and They call themselves the music union and they performed a little concerts around the city and They earned money to donate to the north-south music programs because of the cuts that have been done and they're going to be Entertaining us again at the z-spot on the 23rd of November So if you're not doing anything that night show up. They also have CDs to sell Okay budget time is coming up cuts are coming and Again, your job is to offer services and I did not like that I saw that privatizing might be part of our garbage pickup But I will be very interested to see how that goes forward But the main reason that I'm here tonight is to talk about what I talked with you a couple of weeks ago with the committee of the whole and That is my vote now my Opinion of what has always gone on has been that we elect the executive person and That you guys are the legislatures You're elected for two year terms Eight of you are elected new every year So I came to the committee of the whole meeting the other night to make sure that I had it straight in my mind This new table of operation that we have in the city when we appointed the city Administrator that you did last month and you've taken away the powers of our mayor He only has input. He has no say so Or no authority is my understanding and it's my understanding that mr. Amato I'm not sure if I said your name right, but I certainly Do know who you are Doesn't have a whole lot of authority either that he has to answer to three alderman and The president of the council is now the executive person For our city of government that was the way I understood it when I left her the other night if I have it wrong I want you guys to explain it because I don't like that and if I'm going to be coming to vote For someone that's not going to have executive powers That I'm not going to go vote You guys are only elected for two years and I respect that and Each of you are elected eight one year and eight the next So I am thinking that some of you have taken the mayor's issues on a personal level and Have put this council on steroids and I'm not real happy about that. I Don't even know what the mayor's duties are anymore. I don't understand. I don't know what he's supposed to do He shows up for work every day. He has a problem that he has admitted to There has been embarrassment to the city I Personally do not think that mayor Ryan has embarrassed me. What has embarrassed me is how the press and How this council has gone after this problem and some of you have made it personal and You can say no, I haven't but you know you have and now we have two attorneys involved The other night you had a committee of the whole meeting and it was closed We have no idea what's going on with the investigation Because you're not allowing us to know that's not right I'm a taxpayer and I want to know what's going on in this city With those attorneys and I think it's time and six weeks two months time surely to have been time to investigate this whole issue Excuse me temple year five minutes up. Would you like the additional? I would like one more minute Because there's something else I would like to say Is that I am this is also November 11th is Veterans Day and I was a young wife in my 20s for six years During the Vietnam era and my husband went to Vietnam for a year when I had a two-year-old My brother was hurt in Vietnam and he passed away last year and he's going to have a full military on his burial In January at Arlington, which I'm extremely proud of I Am a lifetime member of the VFW and so I want to honor all the veterans That are presently serving and that have served and I especially Want to honor our mayor Who is an ex-marine? You're never an ex-marine. You are a marine for life But he's been four years as a marine and I want to close with saying Simplifier to my mayor. Thank you. Thank you Thank you temple next Okay Mayor's announcements I did not intend to make any announcements this evening and I don't have any announcements, but I would like to make a couple comments Forgive me if what I say, maybe I shouldn't but I have to I Can't understand How this council when we have somebody Put in for the position of Alderperson to fill a whole five months of a term or six months whatever it is The only person to come forward how this council would instead decide To just not fill that position because that person may not have the exact same Political views or agenda that they do I find it disturbing and I Do and I have to say that Is Lissard has served on city committees She has spoken before this council on numerous occasions in the six years that I've been around here On the council and as mayor But obviously This council some of us don't agree with everything that she They stand for whether that is being profiled department or putting a rotary out on Weedon Creek and South Business Drive Or simply being outspoken I don't you know, I didn't plan on saying this this evening, but I have to I just don't think it's right. I think that This council has become far too political a Representative one council member is 1 16th of the vote to keep that open because some of us have decided that This person doesn't agree with everything that we'll want. I just don't think it's proper and I had to say that We'll move on to the consent agenda Consent agenda 15 1 through 15 16 President Decker We have a motion in a second on the consent agenda Under discussion if there is no discussion All in favor Roll call, please I Motion carries communications and petitions 15 17 to be referred reports of officers to 15 18 and 15 19 lies over until November 21st 1520 through 1540 to be referred resolutions introduce 315 41 by President Decker promoting civil public discourse President Decker We have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion all their person Kittleson Thank You mayor. I guess this came about I guess I'd like some explanation tell me about this President Decker, would you like to explain what promoting civil public discourses? It's my understanding that at the last annual meeting of the League of Wisconsin municipalities Are in the league The resolution was adopted Similar to this and Resolution Requested that all the municipalities throughout the state Encourage the promotion of civil public discourse and the league disseminated this proposed resolution for all the cities and villages in the state to consider to adopt so that's the basis for Thank you. Thank you attorney McLean. Thank you all the person Kittleson any further discussion If there is no further discussion, we'll call please Carlson Decker Haman Hammond Item in class. I Kittleson. I Manichuk Raceler Samson. I an Akron. I Vanderwill. I versi and belt 15 eyes motion carries 1542 by Alderperson's racelor versi Kittleson Decker and Samson lifting the hiring freeze in order to hire a community Development specialist in the city development department Alderman raceler I'd make a motion to move the suspend the rules, please Do we have a motion in a second to suspend the rules? Does any what anybody like an explanation of as to why the rules need to be suspended? The rules are suspended. Thank you I'd move that the resolution be put upon its passage second We have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion There is no discussion. We'll call please Carlson. I Decker Haman. I Hammond. I Heidemann. I cause I Kittleson. I Manichuk raceler Samson I van Akron. I Vanderwill. I versi I belt and boron 15 eyes motion carries 1543 by Alderperson's racelor versi Kittleson Decker and Samson lifting the hiring freeze in order to hire a plumbing Slash environmental inspector in the city development department Alderman raceler. Thank you. Mr. Mayor again request a motion to move to second Would anybody like an explanation of why the rules need to be suspended? The rules are suspended. Please continue. Thank you. I move that the resolution be put upon the passage second We have a motion in a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion There's no discussion roll call, please Decker Haman. I Hammond. I Heidemann. I Cough I Kittleson. I Manichuk raceler I Samson. I van Akron I Vanderwill I versi I Belt I boron. I and Carlson. I 15 eyes motion carries 1544 through 1548 to be referred Reports of committee 7 1549 by law and licensing recommending denying beverage operators license number 9331 Based upon her failure to accurately accurately reveal all relevant convictions on her application and her record of violations Related to the licensed activity under person Vanderwheel. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. I'm with the RC be accepted and adopted second We have a motion and a second to accept and adopt under discussion is Lee Miller here tonight She's not here on it. Please continue We denied her license based on two very recent underage drinking and a disorderly convex at a party and There was negative recommendation from the police department Very good. Any further discussion There is no further discussion roll call, please Hammond I Heidemann I Kittleson I Manichuk raceler I Samson I Van Akron I Vanderwheel I Versi I belt I boron I Carlson I and Decker 15 eyes motion carries 1550 by law and licensing recommending denying beverage operators license number 9339 based upon here for her failure to accurately reveal all relevant convictions on her application and her record of violations related to the licensed activity All the person Vanderwheel. I move that the RC be accepted and adopted second We have a motion and a second under discussion is Megan Stadler here tonight She is not here Committee voted three deserted and I her license. We had a negative recommendation from the police department and many a recent Very good any further discussion If there is no further discussion roll call, please Hammond I Heidemann I Kittleson I Manichuk raceler I Samson I Van Akron I Vanderwheel I Versi I belt I boron I Carlson I Decker 15 eyes motion carries Ordinances introduced 10 1551 by Alderpersons raceler versi Kittleson Decker and Samson Amending the municipal code so as to change the job description for the position of plumbing environmental inspector in the city development department Alderman raceler. Thank you. Mr. Mary again move to suspend the rules, please second motion in a second to suspend the rules I think we know why please continue. I move that the ordinance you place upon its passage second we have a motion in a second to Place the ordinance upon its passage under discussion There is no discussion roll call, please Heidemann I Kittleson I Manichuk raceler I Samson I Van Akron I Vanderwheel I Versi I belt I boron I Carlson I Decker I common I Hammond I 15 eyes motion carries 1552 through 1554 to be referred Matters laid over 11 1435 general ordinance number 32 11 12 by Alderpersons raceler Kittleson and Samson Amending the municipal code so as to delete the current planning and development Specialists and create the job description of community development specialist in the city development department Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I don't think that we need to suspend the rules for this I move that the ordinance be put upon its passage second We have a motion a second to put the ordinance upon its passage under discussion Alderman boron Thank You mayor. I believe this position is this job description is for an update For the person that's retiring in that department Carol Rudy and I believe Carol is going to be retiring soon And I would like to thank personally thank Carol for her many years of dedicated service to the city of Sheboygan and Again, thanks, and I agree Carol is our Carol has been with the city longer than any other current employee. How's that Sue? Okay, and and Carol's great. I love calling the Department of Development and carries Carol says city development And I say hello Carol. This is the mayor. What may I do for you today? So we've been doing that for the last few years So we'll all miss Carol. She's great. Thank you Alderman born Okay, I don't think that's what we're discussing here though, right okay for 1435 We have a motion and a second hundred and any further discussion There is no real call, please Kittleson Racelor Samson, I van Akron van der wheel Versi Born Carlson Decker Hammond and Heidemann Motion carries general ordinance number 331112 by Alderpersons Racelor Versi Kittleson Samson and Decker Amending the municipal code so as to delete and add various positions to the to in the finance department Alderman Racelor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I again move that the ordinance put upon its passage We have a motion and a second to put the ordinance upon its passage under discussion If there is no discussion, we'll call please Kittleson I Manichuk Racelor Samson, I van Akron van der wheel, I versi belt Lauren Carlson, I Decker Hammond Hammond, I Heidemann I 15 eyes motion carries 1437 general ordinance number 341112 by Alderpersons Racelor Versi Kittleson Samson and Decker amending municipal code so as to delete and add Various positions to the municipal court table of organization Alderman Racelor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor again, I move that the ordinance put upon its passage Motion and a second to put the ordinance upon its passage under discussion There is no discussion we'll call please Manichuk Racelor Samson, I van Akron van der wheel, I versi belt Lauren Carlson, I Decker Hammond, I Hammond, I Heidemann, I Kott, I and Kittleson, I 15 eyes motion carries 1443 general ordinance number 351112 by Alderpersons Hammond, Boren, Manichuk and van Akron amending the municipal code for as to provide a Petty cash fund for the city clerk's office Alderman Hammond Motion and a second to put the slush fund upon its passage under discussion Under discussion If there is no discussion we'll call please Racelor Samson van Akron van der wheel, I versi Come on belt Boren, I How much is this fund by the way? Carlson, I Decker Hammond, I Hammond Donald I Heidemann, I Kott, I Kittleson, I and Manichuk, I 15 eyes Motion carries. Other matters authorized by law attorney McLean 1555 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting communication from Gretchen Thomas Assistant superintendent of the Sporgan area school district submitting the approved tax levy for the 2011-2012 school year We'll be going to finance 1556 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2012 and June 30 2013 To law and licensing 1557 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting communication from Joe Jantz owner of tidy car Sheboygan requesting encroachments for areas around his business in 810 North 14th Street and 1418, Wisconsin Avenue will be referred to city planning 1558 is an ordinance granting Mr. And Mrs. Jantz their errors in the signs privilege and approaching upon described portions of North 15th Street located at North 15th Street Wisconsin Avenue in the city for the purpose of paving a parking lot We'll also go to city planning 1559 is an ordinance granting mr. Mrs. Jantz their errors in the signs privilege of encroaching upon described portions of Wisconsin Avenue located at North 15th Street in Wisconsin Avenue in the city for the purpose of paving a parking lot We'll be referred to city planning 1560 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting as a matter of information the statement from the city clerk regarding the cost for potential recall primary and or recall elections in For Mayor Ryan these figures have not been included in my budget request for 2012 That lies over till the next council meeting 1561 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting a communication from Patricia a home Suggesting that the vacant aldermanic seat for district number five be held open until a general election can be held in April 2012 We have a motion in a couple seconds to file this document Under discussion all in favor of filing say aye opposed documents filed Motion in a second to adjourn all in favor say aye Opposed motion carries. Thank you everybody