 I think between myself, Charlie, Dick, and Alan, we can handle it pretty well, I think Okay, reserve fund transfers, let's use the summary page on the handout. Mr. Manager, could you briefly go through the meeting? Yeah, absolutely. Good evening. So I'll quickly point out there's been multiple iterations of the document that's before you, and I just want to point out some of the changes that were made from the initial distribution last week. So last week we sent out this packet that was almost in its entirety. Today there was emailed out an update that added in a transfer to the zoning board of appeals salary budget from the reserve fund and the amount of $1,230. And then there was a misunderstanding between Sandy Pooler and David Goode about the need for a reserve fund transfer for information technology, excuse me, information technology. I actually got that on my way back over here today and had a dialogue with David. So you'll see the addition of a need to transfer into information technology expense, $56,753, which is recommended also to come from the reserve fund. So those are the two additions from what you had previously been provided. Do you want me to go item by item? So when I go through one item at a time, I'll ask for questions on that item, and then we'll go to the next item. Great. First item, I'll go by the order of the memo if that works for everybody. It's a $479 transfer to the board of selection's office, and that's obviously a very small amount, but it's in relation to the buyout costs of a long-term employee who retired from the selection's office this year. Any questions? Okay, next request is a multi-part request from the Comptroller. The first is a transfer request of $10,000 from the Comptroller's salary budget to his expense budget to cover costs related to restructuring security features, and I would actually say some of the permissions that we have in the MUNIS system. So to transfer actually interdepartmental against salary to expense to cover those costs. And then the Comptroller's second request, which I believe he's had at least one if not multiple discussions with his finance committee, subcommittee just to transfer $50,000 from the reserve fund to pay for the restructuring of the town's chart of accounts. After being on board for almost a year now, he's found that the chart of accounts is maxed out and can't really fit any expansion or changes. So we'd like to actually expand the roles of the person who was doing the MUNIS permissions work to also do this chart of accounts work. So he's asking for that to come from the reserve fund. I guess once it gets over $479. Okay, I'll go ahead and buy it. Okay, on the $50,000, so reserve fund transfer rates have always, in my time with the finance committee, been items that were not foreseeable. Either when we were doing the budget in February, or when we did the budget last year. So like a vacation, biot, a sick biot, things you don't see coming. We had to throw out a lot of modules over at Thompson. We didn't know that at the time. Why does this fall into that category? Why don't you just go to the budget process? I think that's a fair process. I guess the best I can answer is the comptroller wasn't here for the establishment of the FY16 budget process. Did not request this for the FY17 budget process when the budget was being formulated and submitted on January 15. Brought it up with the finance committee, subcommittee, and I don't want to speak for any of those members. But at that point it was determined rather than adding it to the FY17 budget, so like the process, that reserve fund transfer would be an acceptable approach. The same question, but since I've got an answer. Is there anyone from the subcommittee here who can say anything about what he said when you were meeting? Charlie? Go ahead. Well, this was coupled to the council's evil package, which was in process, as you know, during our last fiscal year and this fiscal year. And there was a kind of making a decision in that process of which, first of all, which new units version they were going to go to. It was a discussion of the cloud. In other words, the existing units that we had wasn't going to support the new AR package. So they had to upgrade to something. There were two different choices. They weren't able to make that decision in time for the questions out there. And then once they made that decision, they could make the decision about it. And they did discuss that with Ryan. Ryan, do you want to add anything to that? Not necessarily to add to that. I had another question that he did mention to us when this was ongoing. And we even talked about the chart of accounts. Is this work that's being done part of the actual, this might understand, this is all part of the upgrade of the MUNA system, not just the fact that he needs a new chart of accounts. This is all part of the upgrade. That's a question for you. So I guess my understanding, it's yes and no. I mean, it's very much related to the upgrade. It's a good time to do it as the system is shifting. But my understanding is that he also feels like whether or not we're going forward with MUNAS, he would be pursuing chart of accounts. Perhaps it's best answered by saying the timing of it is related to the MUNAS receivables switch over, but the need would be there whether or not. Well, I understand that I guess we're masking this. It's all part of the integration of it at this point. That's fair, that's fair. Okay, Alan and Dean. Is this basically just a renumbering of the accounts that will lose some restructuring, for example, over the TAS report when I was to handle enterprise costs offsets, different things like that. Would there be any structural changes or is this just renumbering? My understanding, this in and of itself is renumbering. Some of those enterprise money changes you're talking about are, I think you said, kind of, in the power of the Sullivan. Will it be addressed in this as well? I have to admit, I'm not sure that this would be sort of hard to address in this chart of accounts. Okay, I would want to do, you know, pay this and then some more changes later if we anticipate those changes and build them into this, I guess. I think those power of the Sullivan changes that you're speaking to are more policy changes than they are necessarily accounting changes in how we choose to budget as opposed to, it ultimately impacts how we account for it, but I think it's budget policy. Dean? I guess just Adam can know your answer to the questions. How involved does the town manager's office in this project or propose? So we, the deputy manager is very involved in the entire newness integration package. Oh, just the chart of accounts part. The chart of accounts, I mean, Sandy would be involved, but it is the comfortable part of the work. I mean, Sandy would want to be part of it because that's what we put together on a question. The chart matters in terms of how we structure the operating budget. But I would call, I'd call, you know, comfortable quarterback. Well, the only thing I ask besides the normal, like the question I ask before is, the school department changed their chart of accounts like four years ago. And then subsequently told us that never to look back past those four years ever again because they can't figure it out between the old, the new chart of accounts in a manner that I think is, like, ridiculous at times. So I think you see kind of where I'm getting at with that. I don't want to be in a situation where we change the chart of accounts and then we're told that we have to disavow all knowledge of prior budgetary numbers because it's just not fair because that was Ruth's chart of accounts. Yeah, so I cannot, you know, I cannot firmly answer that, but I can commit to making sure that we don't have to. You know, how does this relate to the chart of accounts? So you've got a separate transfer request for the 10 and the 50. I mean, the 10 is just a transfer from the controller, salaries. The 50,000 from the reserve fund. So could you speak to that? The difference between the two? Yeah, were you speaking to both or were you speaking to the 10? Yeah, so the 50 is the chart of accounts. The 10 is a rule-based permissions update for the use of the units. Right now, the way it's been done for quite a while is you come in and whatever your job is and the comfort of the staff structures out your immune permissions sort of ad hoc. All right, you're this clerk. We're going to give you this, this, and this. Instead, we want to build a system where if you're this clerk, your permissions are already set and you're just assigned that clerk or that treasurer collector or that manager or whatever the title is, I think it's going to be a rule-based permission set sort of as a standard. Any other questions on the two controller transfers? Okay, thanks. Next, turning machine is the DPLEU Stone Ice Transfer. We've used it up $143,047 over the FY16 allocated budget. So we're requesting that those funds be transferred from the reserves as well. We do note here, as I'm sure the finance community knows, this year we will not have the need to raise any further deficit to reach out on the 17th DAC. This is the entirety of the DAC. Any questions? All right. The election dollars is the next transfer you see listed and that also is going to relate to a later transfer. This is in regard to funding and costs associated with next Tuesday's special election. So as you can see here, the election budget covers the election workers and supplies to polling places and all those professional services to get the actual polling places set up. I might as well speak to her now if it's okay. The town clerk's transfer is for $5,900 to $72. There's a detail of that, actually the last page in the packet. That's for the printing and coding that goes with creating a balance and then actually coding the chips that count the balance in it and the voting machines. Any questions on the election transfers, either the selector or the town clerk? Thanks. Thank you. Next after elections you'll see the facilities. This, as you can see, is not a reserve fund transfer, but rather a transfer from salaries to expenses based on some positions being vacant for a good portion of the year. There was some salary surplus available in the facilities salary line out. So there's always need in terms of facilities maintenance. So there is steam track maintenance in town hall that works in form. Some work has already been done to the town hall entrance. Some carpet work at the Fox Library. Also some plumber supplies needed at the Fox Library. So we're looking for a position to move that $15,000 from salary to expenses. Any questions? Human resources, asking for a transfer from the reserve fund of $18,410 and that is solely related to the buyout cost of a long term employee. Who recently retired. Questions? Inspections. We are looking for a transfer of $61,405 from the reserve fund. This is really three pronged. The majority of it is in relation to, once again, the retirement of a very long term employee. Much of them expect to retire. I think he's become a third longest serving and current serving town employees who've been here quite a few years and had a pretty significant buyout. In addition to that, the building inspector had a medical absence this year and in terms of paying for some temporary services to cover the office. We're asking for $5,400. Yes, I'm sorry. And also some of you may recall the very serious fire down in the Arizona ranch, Brookside County Minions. We needed to pay for a third-party architectural review to judge structural stability and some of the decisions that the building inspection services was making about the safety of the buildings. Now it was not a budget expense, so we're asking for that. Okay, any questions? Adam, are these salary buyouts related to the days when the town was negotiating with the City Bureau of Vacation? Yeah, so this employee had both of the deferred, is that what you're speaking about? Yes. So he had been here, I think, for some 37 years. So he had both deferred accrued sick time and whatever his vacation unused at that point. So as we move through the cover of employees, is there going to be a change in their retirement transition costs? I mean, it will certainly start to go down given there's not even that many employees left in the books that have both for either of those deferrals coming to them. Sick time is now capped at a quarter of what you have in the books for sick time. And with the four or five years now since I think the Finance Committee supported the town meeting passed cut off for vacation all over April 30th. So frankly, people are smart enough to retire at a time opportunity to them based on what they have in the books, but not a lot of vacation time to roll open for the two of these sort of roll cards as well. Thank you. You're welcome. Do we have any five percenters left? You know, I think they're not named them, but a different five percent of her. Yeah, I think there's one or two left. Amazing. I think there are like ten still in the fire department. Really? Yes. That's from 1985. Oh. I think I'm good over that recently. You might have one from the phone for two percent, maybe one or maybe two. You might have a few of them left for that. I think there were some that the Chief has said will get seven percent. Okay. I didn't think it was ten. I thought I'd make a three or four. I can ask the Chief. I think the Chief might be one of them himself. Yes, the Chief does. The Chief will be a very significant buy out of America. It's a big department. They could eat it. Yeah. Allen? The Arizona Ranch is expensive. What does it become of my feed? Is this a complaint? No. So this is a complicated one with the need for the building inspector to make a decision of whether or not the building was structurally sound for, not only for repairs to be made, but for people to go back in and claim their belongings and people were doing that on sort of a rolling basis. So this was the building inspector, frankly, not wanting to have the sole liability of him and his staff being the only opinion on the structure of stability. So using some third party review to show us no fee-basedness. Yeah, it's not. Okay. Next? Next is from the police department. This is moving money from police salary, $40,000 from police salary to police expenses. Again, nothing being requested to come from the reserve fund here. This is in relation to what has really been a number of somewhat, sometimes large, sometimes smaller moves as the community safety building project has been going through its phases. The Chief and his staff, other office staff, the Chief was in one place, but some offices actually moved a few times. There's been phone movement, there's been IT movement, there's been furniture movement, temporary walls, temporary desks. So some portion of this, of a larger cost than this $40,000, has been borne by the capital budget, but some of the more operating related, you know, temporary expenses the Chief has been covering in his operating budget. And that's why he's asking for this here. ZBA? So this is related to the position, there used to be a part-time position in Board of Selectment's office and a part-time position in the ZBA. When that long-time, part-time position in the Board of Selectment's office retired, which is what prompted that first transfer that we spoke about, the Board of Selectment having jurisdiction over the zoning board of appeals as well, decided to collapse those into one position. Collapsing them into one, reclassifying the position, and then setting a salary amount left the ZBA for their portion of that person's time, $1,230 short. Any questions? Yeah, Paul? Is that accounted for in the 2017 budget? Yes. Any other questions? Okay, information technology. So again, this is the late addition here. So in terms of covering the programming expenses that were required to make ICS, the town's current receiver plus package, be able to bill for the CPA, I think the committee probably recalls back in March, I believe there was a $24,000 transfer to cover consultants costs to do that programming. There's been continual costs in regards to that programming, as well as the town's lead software developer who does a lot of historic on ICS has been out sick for some time and is expected back later this month. So the same consultant has been brought in more often to not only do some of the CPA work, but to back for a while, that employee has been out sick, which is totals up to David Goode's request of $56,753 to get him from now to the end of the fiscal year in the black. Right. Is the CPA being billed for the work, for this work and everything else that went on during the first year? So we, I know, I believe it was you and maybe Karen and I brought to our attention the statute that clarified that it was allowed. We didn't have an article that allowed us to appropriate those funds in the special town meetings, so there's no mechanism to appropriate an FY16. So the town lost $50,000 roughly? I mean, I suppose you could say that, but it's not lost money. I mean, the taxpayers paid the money. They would have paid for it if it was from the CPA fund or if they paid for it in the general fund. Alan? Some of the new collection systems we were just, as it's built in. I verified that one, David, before I came. Yeah. It sort of feels like spending this on the business. I said, can I at least tell the finance committee this one's looks less. Okay, any other questions on that? I want to tell the general question. Okay, any other questions on informational technology? Any general questions? Dean? The fire department? Not on the list. Isn't that amazing? So he continued this year as in some of the past years with vacancies and the surplus is that has created being able to manage his overtime and even let me get transferred. Okay, so I think it's worth noting for, I guess I'll, let me get this on the list. So the reason we, we used to have, my first job in the fire department, we used to have this meeting, I meant to be a meeting before our end of year dinner, and then we stopped doing it because it seemed unsavory to tell it to then fire chief for his like constant $400,000 or $250,000 running over budget and overtime and not managing his money before we ate. So we split it out here so we could yell at him but it differed. And I think that's my way of saying that, you know, the fire department budget was a long problem for the finance committee. I think it was not a good time to deal with it. So I think this chief has worked very hard over a lot of years to get this thing in line and I remember when he first came on it was, it's been ratcheting down every year, right? It's a big number that's long as long as long. I think it might have been a balance last year too as well so I don't think, I think it's worth noting that that's a, it remains a significant accomplishment from where it was, you know, seven, eight years ago. I agree. He, the chief, Chief Jefferson has done an exceptional job managing the department, managing this issue. He's also probably over the past three or four years but a great advocate for responsibly increasing the overtime budget when we set the budgets so that they're slowly chipping away. You know, so managing on one side, also budgeting the appropriate on one side so that you can start to reduce that need. Charlie? I think I'd like to final on there, Chief Jefferson, because, you know, we rehabilitated two fire stations in the last several years. And I don't remember the exact number, but I know that he's literally saved hundreds of thousands of dollars in that process by just clever management and buying and moving things around and so forth. So it's not just the overtime. Also true. Very true. And one other note is that Chief has been keeping Daryl in the address with emails every month as to how the budget was going. So he's doing all this transparent. Okay. Any other general thoughts? Okay. What I'd like to do now is, rather than call all these separate votes, if you, I'm going to go down by order of the summary sheet. And just like Charlie, you're a moderator. If you want to hold something because you have an amendment that you want to discuss it further, you'll hold. And I'll just go down through it. We'll go back to the one that you want to discuss more. We'll do that as a vote. And then we'll vote the whole thing. So human services, inspections, facilities, elections, town clerk, DPW, police, controller, driving, controller, chart of accounts, selectment, ZBA, information technology. Hold. Okay. Information technology. Yes. I think, I just, I don't know, it's sitting bad with me that we've discussed this at length in our committees. We were given the wrong information by the CPA committee who said that they're not allowed to pay for these expenses directly. They told us that when they came in and discussed their budget. I will vote for everything except for the CPA money at this point. The town is actually going to lose those funds. The town is going to benefit by billing them in some form. And I think when an unforeseen expense comes up, if it has to come out of a reserve, even if it came out as a reserve fund transfer with that, they have to reimburse next year to pay it back. That's one thing, but I support everything else but that. Okay. Now. Okay. Okay. Is there a mechanism to, will there be a mechanism to do that retroactively in terms of CPA? Is it, and by statute, can only be paid in the first year. And it's all this was written into the CPA statute and the general laws. So the committee was misled either through a mission error or whatever. I'm not saying it's deliberate. But we had that opportunity in March to correct this. Yeah. I mean, for what it's worth, Brian, I fully agree that the statewide coalition gave bad advice to the committee. We could have or should have done more homework ourselves, but that is 100% accurate. Now the CPA costs, these were costs that the town hasn't heard. So if we don't transfer this, there will be a deficit in that account. Yes. If we don't transfer this, the IT will end in the red. Absolutely. Is there any way, and there's no way for the CPA to retroactively reimburse the town for that? So the CPA doesn't really have any FY16 appropriations at all. And that time has come and gone with the FY16 special town meeting. So they have no cash until July 1? They have no appropriations. Well, they don't have any cash. Okay, so cash has come in. Oh yeah, no, no, it's been collected. Absolutely. But they don't have an appropriation. Correct. So there's no way for them to pay. And this closes out on June 30 if they can't spend any money until July 1. Is there any way to, can you think of any creative ways for them to reimburse this? I mean, I guess the best thing I can say without promising more than I can get from the CPA committee is there's been, there had been some dialogue about whether or not they would hire and create their own staff or use existing town staff. And I have been talking with the chair of the CPA and using both the yet to be hired new management analyst in my office and also the assistant town manager because those positions are new and not well, one's new, one's unfilled. The chair's interpretation has been that next year we will be able to use CPA funds to offset portions of the costs of those salaries which otherwise would have been wholly supported by the general fund. I know it is not a direct fix to what you're depicting, but it will at least take some pressure off the general fund that we weren't otherwise expecting. That's what I'm trying to support. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Now are you making a motion on that? Of no action? No, I'm not going to hold it. I know what's going to happen. Okay, in that case we have $360,657 coming out of the reserve fund. $10,000 from controller salaries, $40,000 from police and $15,000 from facilities on that. Do I have a motion? Right a second? Okay. Any discussion? Any further discussion? I should second. Okay. All those in favor, please say, I. I. Opposed? Okay. They're allowed to be $52,750 left in the reserve fund. Is that the updated number after these late institutions? So, the chairman and I were just going back and forth. We have about a $9,000 discrepancy, but it's, he has $61,000 after $52,000. We'll fix that discrepancy, but yes, that incorporates everything past today. In comparison sake, I took a quick look. Last year, the reserve fund was about $19,000 and FY 14 ended up with $54,000. So, considering $550,000 was for the Thompson modulus, which is obviously a very singular, large expense, it's actually a pretty good relative performance. The winter helmet. Yes. I'll just give you a second while I hand all these over. While we have the manager trapped in this room, do you have any questions for the manager? Brian. The five-year plan in all these overrides is, have you guys revised it at all for the potential and basically, I think all the schools will pass without much difficulty, especially from what I've seen in the paper and everything. My issue is going to be and I'm worried about the override after that, the general operating fund or the general fund just in its day-to-day operations going forward is going to need an immense override. I'm looking at this and I see it somewhere on the order of $17 million, which right now is alone is 17% of the total tax take that we're bringing in. So, the most recent iteration or update is the plan that was included in the finance committee's report, the town council. And it is, that is the document that speaks to the potential of the need for an override currently projected for FY 2021. So, we ran last year through the long-range planning process starting in the fall through the spring really more than dozens of scenarios that looked at overrides in FY20, early overrides in FY18 that would be lower in amount, but would obviously raise the taxation before you need it and continue to put it in the bank. So, we did a brief informational forum at the senior center yesterday in regards to the debt exclusions and the question came up, this isn't it, right? And, you know, you have to say that if we're fortunate enough to get through the MSPA process and have a selected project there will be a high school construction question for a debt exclusive. There's the possibility of a hardy question depending on what other figures look like in the hardy and then in the future there will certainly be an override question that's contemplated. I think the big question today the two questions are the when and how much. And how much is going to be very strongly dictated by spending decisions that the community makes. Well, like I said I personally believe all the school the schools will pass and I don't know the numbers for the high school but I don't think anybody does but you can look into it and say, okay, it's going to be in excess of 200 million. Do they have an idea as to what in general right now if it were to happen what the reimbursement rate would be just, you know, a ballpark? So, you know, if I was going to guess I would say it's going to be 45 percent. Okay. So, you know, based on that I mean, once you put equipment and everything else in the school you probably, I assume we're going to be looking at about $140 million. Maybe 130. I don't want to split here. Frankly, the figure when citizens have asked me I use the figure of $150 million. And I think all that will pass and the debt exclusions but what really scares me like I said is the operating budget because that's going to make everything else fail. Because we're going to have to pay for everything once we have it built. You're absolutely right. Absolutely. Okay. Maybe this is all in coattails what Brian just said. I've got a question. It's mainly the one out on the both second place. Okay. Does this originate in your panel? That I believe is from I've got to say I just felt my blood boil when I read the question one, question two, question three. There's two ways it was worded. And if I were going to be sitting on this committee I think it's a little bit of pulling the wool over the taxpayer and the voters' eyes because first of all, question one is fine. Both the crowding and the return of the gift school to Lydia's middle school and the tax actuation makes sense. Question two, we're all from high school $2 million for a feasibility study. And then it goes on to say that tens of millions of dollars will come from the state for the future building project. And then lastly, the Minuteman Technical High School a rebuild of $32 million. We're going to vote on this next week. I just think that it would have been great to just close in question two that there was going to be $150 million cost of the high school. But the $2 million is just for as it says, just for a feasibility study. But I think if the voter knew that there's $29 million for gifts and then $150 plus or minus million for new high school they might get second thoughts about $32 million for a new contribution to the Minuteman High School. It's all on the side that just the wording is a little bit clever for me. From my position the first time I saw that is when it came from my mail swap at home. Not to criticize or support or criticize. Any other questions for the manager? Do you want a tree cut down or something like that? Yeah, I have. I mentioned this about two years ago the town after they replaced the hikes they put new streets in and new curves and I thought they did a fantastic job. I've seen another of them however, I have noticed that at the corners where the handicapped are and is it sort of a cement triangle or something like that in more than one location I've seen that that cement is cracking. You know, in most of these places it just is not. Is it cracking or spalling? Yeah, both. My experience of doing that spalling is easier to go after in terms of potential quality problems with the cement or the concrete. Cracking, I think is tougher to track in a fault. So the whole Brandwood Kensington area but I've also seen other places. I'll bring it up to Mike. Okay. Who would I ask about I live in Eastern Ellington in Lafayette Street and all of the commuters and ill-wifes that don't want to pay they park on our street and we've called the police or the landlady neighbors but is there anything that can be done who would I contact about that? So ultimately it's the Board of Selection who are the parking commissioners and it's been since I've been here an ongoing issue and I'm sure most of you have been here for longer than me would agree. So it's it's a constant, it's been a constant problem and there hasn't necessarily been the traction to put sort of a full blown resident parking permit process in place so I think a multitude of voices come into the selection and start to determine that. No. Thank you. No problem. Okay. Anything else? Okay Mr. Manager, thank you very much for coming. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome to hang around if you like. The drama who's next year's chairman. I'm sorry? We'll see. Okay. The next on the agenda is election of officers. So with that I will turn it over to our fine executive secretary Gordon. Your chance to maintain a course. Okay. Election of officers for 2017. Al Tawstay would like to remain as chair of finance committee. Do I have a motion? Second. Thank you. All in favor say aye. Aye. So Al, you have the pleasure of being the chairman in five years from the year 2017. Thank you. Now for our vice chairs. Dick Fanny, Jolett Boskett, and Alan Jones. Yes. I wish to throw out my name. I will stay if nobody else wants it. Okay. Bring it all apart. Don't look at this. Don't look at this. Do you have any nominations? I'm moved. I'm going to say I'm moved. No action on his. That is withdrawn. Would you do willing to stay for one more year? So the committee has a chance to consider. Okay. This motion is withdrawn. I'll have some comments. Okay, so all those. I need a motion. For Dick Fanny, Jolett Boskett and Alan Jones as our vice chairs for 2017. Sorry. Thank you. All those in favor, please say aye. Opposed? And so vice chairs 2017. Thank you. Recruiting secretary Peter Howard. You have a motion. Second. All those in favor, please say aye. Opposed? Peter Howard. Keep doing that front job. There is one more. Yes. I think of all the committees, we have never gotten a question about getting our minutes up when they were due. Okay, a few other thoughts. One is Dean's usual motion transfers during the summer and fall when the finance committee is not in meeting which is chair and vice chair. The chair with the approval of one vice chair, the authority make the transfer. Second, we're not around. Okay, we usually put caps. 10 grand by the chair with the permission of two out of the three vice chairs, 25,000. Dick, the chair can do 10,000 by himself. Yep. 25 for chair and vice chair. 25 is better. Okay. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay. I've been planning this trip out west for like three years now. I think I'm finally going to get to do it which means I'm going from early early August or early October and well, you can do a lot with email cell phones and all that kind of stuff. Trying to do this trapping through the BANF forests can be a little difficult. Therefore while I'm away but I appoint Charlie Foskin as acting chair of the committee for those two months. The last thing is please get your dinner choices to Dick. We'll see you all in two weeks and with that, is there any other business of the committee? Paul. Who will in our next meeting be back at community safety? No. The manager what do you think Charlie? I don't know what the status is. Well, Gloria, keep an eye on it. Okay. I think they're just not spending money, so I don't think I have the middle of it. Okay. Well, hopefully we'll be over there because I hate this the acoustics in this place. And hopefully they fixed the heater system so you know, not all along. Okay, any other business, any other questions? Yep. Charlie, you're going to talk about the building and so on? It's supposed to be finished. They transferred money out of that project in the schools. So I mean, it was due to be finished into this fiscal year. I think they're back there. All those signs that were pointing to the other building are gone. I don't think they're in here. You don't know what's inside. That's the thing. That's always the same thing. Okay, so we will try very hard to get back to the only over you know, and our next meeting. Okay, any other business or questions? Meeting adjourned.