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So Shiro Mushira is somebody who is a tour operator, she is of course an avid traveler with a vast, of course insatiable hunger for travel and of course new experiences, she will be telling us more about what she does Karim Sana Shiro. Thank you very much. But the other names that you have, should we also say them? Well I can go ahead and say them. And who they say? And why did I have to say Shiro? Well, so my official names, how they appear on my birth certificate is Elizabeth Vivian Wajiromoshira, I have two English names but I like going by Shiro Mushira just because I like owning who I am. Kuhuwaksen, the triumph, Palumetoka. I like all the story about the mumbi, so I like owning that. That's why Shiro Mushira. So if someone would call you Vivian or Elizabeth, would you writeika? Vivian writeika Elizabeth on the other hand, well I don't even recognize myself as that and honestly Elizabeth, the story I was given, how I got the name Elizabeth is just that my dad wanted Elizabeth. My mum wanted Vivian and since I'm the only girl, Kuhuwaksen, we had to go with the name that my mum wanted but both names had to appear on the birth certificate. So Elizabeth Vivian but Vivian is the name. Because if someone would call me by some names, I would not know it's me being called. I have other names. Oh really? Interesting. But Nikitwa, if I'm writing, I'll keep writing because it hasn't yet registered in my mind that you know that is your name until someone say, hey, I'm talking to you. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you so much for having me honestly. You do tour? Yes I do tour and travel. What exactly are you, what does this entail and what made you to get into this field? Okay. So yes, I do travel tours and travels. I just started recently honestly and the reason why that I decided to venture into this industry is because I have this passion of travelling. I, from the longest I can remember, I've been wanting to travel. For the time we'll come. Yes. You know, tomorrow we are travelling to this one. It's exciting. Yes, you get so excited. My first actually travel was in Ambusil. Kitamusana with my neighbour and I got so excited. You can even sleep with your shoes on. That was the first time. How old were you? I remember probably I think maybe 10, 11. I am not quite sure. That is the excitement I get here. So I didn't know that it was a passion. It was something that I wanted to do like in future. Because you know I've wanted to do so many things. What do you want to do in life? I want to be a lawyer. I want to do this. I want to be a traveller. No I actually didn't know that. Me I just had this excitement of travelling all the time. What were you saying you wanted to be? Honestly I wanted to be a journalist. I think you fit that role. Doesn't she fit that? Kaibik. Okay. How? Yeah. That's right. I took a camera position. I put you up and then you see if she fits then in me. One of the women in Neko. Okay. 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Stupi ini tamad consumers responsible for Ngajiha Kurumileة같a pauqo Pawa miki vistifu Uziwepetu Uziwepetu Ta kiva Ya kwiמפmios It's an inspiration Motivation You know one day probably you know I'll get to talk about travels Lupita Nyongo said Lupita Nyongo All dreams are valid Very true I don't think it's impossible if you still love it I do love it but I realize I love traveling more honestly Yes I think I had that dream when I was young growing up but I also had this excitement when it comes to traveling I'm always on the road but you know there's this perception I don't know you don't tell them you want to be a doctor they say you are not serious in life they want an engineer or a doctor or a pilot or a lawyer some big names when I was young I was a journalist and sometimes you didn't have an answer to give well a lot of wonder you tell them I want to be a travel you tell them seriously you know the way we've been raised my dad was a banker my mom was a business so growing up me and my big brother I think we were just him being the first born was wild at heart and me being the last born he was like what are you in jia it kinda helped you because at least streamline transition he created that for to ease and out my parents so that we can actually be free in telling them they didn't understand that's the only case so they embraced it when they saw that they saw it and then they just let it they just started to let it go but where can you attack is that what you want go ahead but before I got there I did some other jobs I also wanted to be an air hostess I've actually done bookings I worked for an airline as well based in the United States not in Kenya an airline in the U.S Spirit Airlines I liked it you've kindred? yes technically even airlines they still travel let's say just like traveling you know yes so how I came about I had been employed and then whenever I take my leaves I would take a trip somewhere I would just go somewhere this is like nearly one I got bitten by the travel bag so I just wanted to travel now let's look at you as as a hero sometimes you go to places and then you have to introduce yourself say I'm a tour operator and there is this image you know present to people have there been any discriminations in terms of gender as a woman you want to convey your ways because you've travelled in so many places you meet so many different people that experience actually it has in the tour industry most of the people who are there honestly who are planning trips the two operators most of them we find the male like any P.S.C. tunesa as ladies you can do it if you love something you can do it just as Lupita and said every dream is value so if you want to be a tour operator go ahead and do it doesn't matter your gender so actually nikiuna the male they like what the men do they get more trust than the as ladies they don't trust the work of a woman I don't know there is this perception that a woman will not deliver how about you try that woman and see so there is gender imbalance you would find that when you come to when you come to like safaris and cruisers a land cruiser a land cruiser driver who trust when man is there but at least when they are ladies there is actually a lady who drives the overland tracks easy tracks kubakuwa and trust you me that lady can drive me mitu na in my head when I umesama land cruiser when I know there is a woman behind the wheel you are the kuatu see no no there is this perception stereotyping I must imitate her but no you know I don't know what they are looking for there no no no it's a mindset yes it is honestly I'm telling you that's actually my favorite car cruiser just because of yes yes yes because of the off road you know can go all the way you know that's actually my favorite car like I said this overland driver mama overland she is the only female or the first female overland driver in East Africa and she inspires me because you know anani pateo karigia you know you can also do it doesn't mean that a man can only do it ata wewne zafanya you try and do it until you know you you'd rather start something usemu me le mewa katikati rather than you not starting so na niwa niwa onanani mependa ken yunafanya I'll go ahead and copy you imitation is actually advised there's this video I saw from a certain coach on Instagram he said you know if you like something and you have someone you admire you look up to imitate him do whatever they do imitate him or her let me put her let me ask you Shiro do you have any dal yes I do believe you have to think first I'm always this person who is always showing my things like everywhere I go I don't know it happens my mum says niliza lewa niwa but I like it you don't have any I don't have any I don't have any I don't have any I don't have any I don't have any I that's just me that's my personality and I think it works best with whatever I'm doing right now I wonder how you so you've not gone through a point in time when you cry and you are so sad of course you've heard that actually I would always have that whenever I was at work I felt drained I feel locked I'm not I'm locked I was drained emotionally I'm also a mum and I never got to spend time with my daughter so that time I think that was the period when I felt like you need to expand it's like you're being sucked into some yes totally I need that so it was hard actually very hard I have my friends I have really good friends who hold each other accountable I told them about this and they were like you know experience there's no hard thing you can actually quit you can decide but then what next if you resign if you quit what will my daughter eat so I had that fear until I actually decided you know what today is that day what is your support battalion those people that always have your back those that you look up to through thick and thin have my ride or die honestly like I said I have really good friends and we hold each other accountable for whatever we do we always put up that calls and they are always backing me up regardless you know they always tell me I started late with whatever I'm doing they're like no this is actually the right time so I isn't your time Yako so you go ahead and do it my family honestly I'm grateful for them my family just generally my friends my closest friends you just have a good network do you feel like having a good network sometimes has an influence on our perception of life and the way it can be achieved it can also be used as a tool to demotivate discourages well if you have a good circle of friends I don't know if you have that good circle of friends they will influence you to be better come and see kila sa I'm a lifeist you're a lifeist I'm a lifeist as well so not all the time you want to sherehe sherehe sherehe you just need to have that person every CD you're not doing right every CD 40 years end at this pathway don't use this route it's okay to actually it's a learning curve everything that you get to do every mistake that you go along and do it's a learning curve and next time you won't go through that so if you have good friends who are actually going to support you in that way trust your meal before and right now that I've started this and they are all entrepreneurs and ladies for that matter I hope they are watching the better ones you guys better watch you better watch what you had better do you have those moments where you've actually made those mistakes those mistakes that you look back into alafu na kumkona naja sometimes I look at some things that I used to do with the person and they were like you look at me jinka do you have those oh god yes so many that is life you can share some oh wow oh they are embarrassing I don't know if you want to share those don't want you like I yeah yeah I've had like quite embarrassing I don't know if I am lajari muku kwa poiss dapa una juliza kama mimi if I can be this kind of a person then she do it well come on I would want to share but she won't allow me to share it's quite embarrassing they are embarrassing I've had moments yes of course allow me not to share but I've had moments for sure embarrassing ones for that matter I want us to take a short break and then we'll be back and then I want to talk about the aspect of travel and of course which company you're involved in of course what actually the challenges you've been facing in regards to that particular area of course this kashobu could be back in a bit keep it while in the morning welcome back this is why in the morning my name is Ram Aguko it's a pleasure being with you on this fine Wednesday morning and of course before we went on that break we were talking about the strength of a woman ladies and gentlemen she is still here with me Shiro and of course we just want to bring it up to a close Shiro Moshira who is a travel to a operator as we talk about the strength of a woman remember to engage with us the hashtag is why in the morning at Ram Aguko and at why 254 channel which is the official station handle alright so Shiro thank you so much for being part of this conversation there is somebody who sent me a question at here I am watching you loving the show Shiro Anasama she is a lifeist what does that mean I just like living life life is new to me and I find they enjoy life they got it you just don't to serious don't make it too serious you have to have fun with your life that way you accomplish so many things you only live once man you die once let's talk about the tour company that you are with now what is it and how has it been working there so it's actually mine I started it just this year honestly Shiro's travel tribe that's the name with the help of my friends that's why I came up with Shiro's travel tribe because we do it my way you have nice friends yes I really have nice friends you tell them how to start a tour travel we had to brainstorm just something you do you have to think about it come up with something that actually matches your energy hence Shiro's travel tribe how has it been since you started so far so good I have gone for 6 trips now I am actually doing another one this coming weekend to Amosele so far it's doing good I like the response I like meeting new people the experience, the culture getting to network honestly so far so good if someone wants to travel what are the tips that you'd like to give so someone like me I don't do travel I've never been on one and the only time I remember going to a park when I was in primary and you remember those primary and then this school trip just being taken to Narumi National Park don't know wapi wapi that's the only time I've never been there so some of those travel tips that you'd like to give me actually you just need to park you only need to park if you want a trip I would plan a trip for you yes I've come to Shiro Travel yes I will plan a trip for you there's always this perception that it's always expensive it can be budget friendly it can work with your budget so whatever budget you have you'll get a trip say you want to do like Amosele like the one I'm going explore you'll get to meet new people new food culture what is Amosele what is Amosele which culture they have the masais there they have the culture every now and then you have to you interact with the people there you interact with the people there I have to I have to and you get the binoculars yes you can carry your own binoculars I don't see that it's so cliche well it's cliche but najos as you know you need your binoculars so it's something that is a necessity but it's not like we won't take you to see the animal it's not like we won't take you to see the animal it's not like we won't take you to see the animal it's too tender we live with the animal son we live with the animal son you know there's that scenario where I saw this meme going around social media of this I don't know if it was a travel agency what was going on but now they were packed and this lioness came through the window when that guy was taking a selfie and then on the meme was like can I take a selfie with you and the guy was like oh ok wow do you have those scary experiences when you're there well because you see most of the time I actually do camping so you're sleeping in the world yeah in the world where we work but you know where people are it's where the animals don't want to go yeah like lions actually want to go for humans it's just that we show your friends na joh anyama na joh ahondwa na uliwa sese sisi ndotunawa anyama like them I say they'll fight them they'll fight them so we they are afraid so where there's a crowd of guys there they don't call me it's very rare you'd find them ati kwa na kujapu but you're not you're asked kwa na pakeako didi you never know what we're having but hey don't be scared that's an adventure but that's what we call adventure anyway getting to see the animals up close that is good just don't interfere with them don't make noise kenda kwa park you're asked so you're not afraid you're good while other ladies are afraid of cockroaches I am not afraid I am a junkie I am adrenaline junkie so I love anything that gets my blood racing you know kia na mende na panya na ruka I mean I sit o gopa rashkile ya wu tupe na takanga kukonka yofia like na juhi woga pia nyoka at least I've held a snake okay why am I saying ati it's not something good I don't know why I'm saying ati the fear of snakes to me is under everyone fears snakes but most ladies fear cockroaches rats lizards they won't bite they won't bite so just go ahead and do it me na gopanga spida I just take a photo of it you'd do that I would I would me me me me me okay sour listen to all women take it from her who's your gope endoko I want us to bring the conversation to a close and I want to give you time to have a final word parting short wu ngepe na kumiawatu ni ni but before you do that wu ngepe na kupata and of course your travel agency also at the same time before you give your final word okay so on socials you can find me on instagram shiro's travel tribe on facebook shiro's travel tribe and also on tiktok shiro's travel tribe we can do one we can do one sure we can do one but bad day final word of the day maybe your parting shots what would you like to say I would advise actually for every Kenyan do it afraid if you have a dream do it afraid don't be shy go ahead and conquer that everyone has this fear of starting at least what time you start just go ahead and start be afraid and along the way you learn it's a learning curve and you will get to get new experiences and with that you just become a pro so I'm learning and becoming a pro and as it is so far so good I can't complain I don't know if I want to go back to employment but so far so good I think you'll love it keep doing what you're doing keep doing what you're doing as you said I will join you one day for two or three but I'd like to have that experience please you will not regret it for sure especially with me I'll make it comfortable for you thank you so much for coming I wish you the best keep doing that I want to appreciate every person that was tuning on this conversation I hope you're inspired don't be afraid don't be afraid you can do whatever you want and of course a big thanks to Shiro thank you so much for coming and of course that brings us to the end of this conversation on strength of a woman but we still have more coming up right here on why in the morning remember it is woman crush Wednesday my name is Ram Maguko we'll be back in a bit