 For that for the patrons as as a father of an infant. I'm sure you have your share Patrick looks like a he has something you really want to share that So nowadays Hours is so he learned to crawl Just a couple of weeks ago and we were like all right excellent He's crawling now so he's gonna be crawling for a little while and he's gonna be happy doing that Well, that's it about a week and now he really wants to walk. Oh, yeah He's seven and a half months old. What baby walks at seven and a half months genius Patrick and his wife I'm starting to resent my Brilliant You should have been joined those those precious prone months that you had Yeah, I don't know. They weren't so He was a cry. All right one minute to air. I will pop off. All right. Thanks, Rich Thanks for dropping in fantastic. We'll be sure to return your casserole desk Do they do that in in either France or Finland like people come over with stuff when you move into a neighborhood Oh, no, no, absolutely not. They don't do it. We're Roger moved in either. So, you know, they Angrily Yeah, that's the tradition in France Let's you know, you're welcome when they look at you angrily and suspicious are actually maybe not in the whole of France But definitely Oh 15 seconds. Do we get like a countdown with yes 10? Thanks everybody who supports daily tech news show directly to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash supports This is the daily tech news for Tuesday, September 18th 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from a studio. That's more like a zoo. I'm Sarah Lane. I Noticed you were scooter lane yesterday with the jury and today you're you're Sarah. Why does jury get the special treatment that I don't me go ears doesn't he well from a Dark place in Finland, which the entirety of Finland is dark. I'm Patrick visual and The LA metropolis I'm Roger another Jay Martin and our discord suggests the Zudio, Sarah We do have the smartest Saudi Yes, well, we're gonna talk about Google and how they just take stuff away once you get used to it But let's start with a few tech things you should know Well, if you watch the Emmy Awards last night, we were talking about this in the pre-show for the first time ever a streaming service And that's Netflix tied for most Emmy wins Monday night HBO shared the top honors They both had 23 wins each Amazon also collected eight awards including best comedy for the marvelous mrs. Maisel That one got quite a few awards last night and Hulu took home four Marvelous mrs. Maisel mrs. Maisel is indeed marvelous. I recommend you watch it the Renault Nissan Nissan Mitsubishi Alliance has agreed to a multi-year deal with Google to produce vehicles with Android Infotainment systems beginning in 2021 the system would have the Google Play Store available in Dash Be combined with the car makers intelligent clown and be compatible with non Android phones I'm not going to lie. I made sure I gave that headline to Patrick so that someone could properly say Renault No, you mean yes that that right Qualcomm and Apple began a second trial with the US International Trade Commission. Yes This is trial number two separate from the other one They got other court cases to boot as well Qualcomm is asking the ITC to ban some iPhone models from import for patent violations relating to how Intel modem chips handle radio signals in The iPhone and one relating to how Apple's own processor handles sleep mode the previous case between Qualcomm and Apple related to battery Management and also some other functions of the moment. All right, let's talk a little bit more about Twitter doing something people wanted For once Twitter is now allowing users to uncheck the settings box reading Show the best tweets first which reverts your timeline to a non algorithmic reverse chronological order The company introduced a default algorithm Algorithmic model in early 2016 Twitter says it's been planning this update for some time based on user feedback And is working on an even easier way I apologize on an easier way to switch between relevant and chronological views Okay, I will play the part of the ungrateful Twitter user now Great. How about editable tweets instead? Also, can you maintain tweet deck maybe two? Okay, I'm sure there's more but there are I think editing Why just go up the API for tweet, but that's what I use I mean, this is I this is something that I think Everyone thinks they want But Actually, they don't but they think they wanted so much that I really don't understand why Twitter doesn't have an easy way of choosing between chronological and Algorithmic and just default to algorithmic if you want to but giving that option really doesn't seem like a big technological challenge and I really don't understand why neither them nor Facebook actually or really anyone that implements algorithmic displays Enables it seems like a no-brainer Well, Facebook has been I gave up on Facebook being chronological in any sense a long time ago The fact that Twitter is at least giving people an option is great This is part of the reason that I have not used web Twitter Since they introduced the algorithm part of it is because I don't want to see ads either And I also like tweet bot and I've been supporting this third-party software company for some time So so it's a little bit more complicated, but I Found Twitter It was sort of like a landmine of uselessness because I'm so used to everything being Chronological because I prefer it to be a news source now Not everybody feels the same way and it's nice that Twitter is now offering the the at least the option and There were some there was some talk on the internet that this was due to somebody tweeting that You could mute certain keywords and kind of get around the algorithm and Twitter said we've been thinking about doing this for a long time So that's not the reason that we did it We didn't do it just to be reactionary to somebody complaining about this or or are figuring a workaround, but It's it's nice to have the choice Yeah How could you not be you know happy about that? I get what Twitter's saying about having this As a setting is not optimal and they've been taking a long time because they want to get it right They want to roll it out in a way that makes sense And so they're doing a lot of testing and being careful Everybody's like why don't you just do it and then when Twitter or Facebook or anybody else just does it They're like, why'd you do it that way? Why didn't you test it more? Tell us about it earlier So in a sense nobody can ever get it right, but I agree with you Patrick I think what you want is a toggle or something that says let me see what it's like in chronological order when I want to Because most of the time I think the algorithm is just fine personally Well, I mean that's exactly what they're offering No, they're making putting in settings I want to toggle like right on the interface right on the front page It says like let me just click that real quick and see what it looks like chronological. Oh, that's it. Okay, great Let me go right back. Well Twitter you have work yet to do Mozilla release version 1.0 of Firefox reality, which is a web browser built for standalone virtual reality and AR Headsets Firefox reality is now available in the Vive port Oculus and Daydream app stores Mozilla first announced work on the open source browser back in April So they've been working on this for a little bit of some time at least publicly users can adjust things like screen size Or brightness of screens they can choose an environment for the browser and Mozilla says upcoming features include support for bookmarks 360-degree videos and accounts I You know God bless Mozilla. Thank thank God they're here But I'm not sure this is gonna light the world on fire. Well, we need a web browser designed for VR I think yeah, that is a good thing. But yeah, it's it's more a question of do enough people use VR for this to light the World on fire, but if you use VR I think this is a great thing as someone who has an Oculus go. I can't wait to try it out I mean, do you yes, but do you really want to use VR to browse the web? I don't know until someone tries to make a decent browser. Maybe I do Right. Yeah, maybe I mean we were we were talking about the way that we all type differently the other day And Mozilla said in in many situations Having keyboard access is okay for some folks, but when you're in a VR environment, it's not very helpful You need you need a lot of spoken commands and do you want to be in a browser that is you know, completely Blacks around you. Well, maybe not especially during the day, you know, that sort of thing So there's all sorts of reimagining of browser worlds that yeah, as you mentioned Tom I don't think we know what that is. Also, I want virtual reality websites And I don't I don't want to surf the 2d web in VR so much as have a browser that is Working so that people will make virtual reality experiences on the web and I don't have to download an app for every experience Google announced it will give up some control over how the accelerated mobile pages or amp project is managed Google launched amp saying it would be part of the open web, but a lot of web developers think that's not really the case So amp will no longer have all its final decisions made by Google employee Malte Ubal Instead amp will be governed by a technical steering committee an advisory committee and working groups all Containing non-Google employees Alongside some Google employees, of course the advisory committee already has members from the Washington Post AliExpress eBay Cloudflare and WordPress maker automatic Google has also been working with the W3C Separately to create a standard for accelerated web pages that amp could comply with but would not be the same as amp So they they're really trying to say no, we really want to do open source and open standards correct I almost want us Not to need amp. I understand the reason for it, but there is you know a Purity to the idea that you are going to get because basically what that means is a formalization of what is already the case which is a different web on the desktop and on a Smartphone, but I mean Stop too you can have a right you can have amp pages load on the desktop I do all that's not what they're designed for no, but it's not like they're separated Right, right. Yeah. I mean anyway, this is a different thing It's good that if I think if Google wants amp to become a Defecto standard they need to do this and they wanted to become a de facto standard because they want more people to be able to Serve the web more efficiently, which has always been the motivation for you know, 80% of what they do So this is a logical move. It wasn't very Open web ish before now. It probably is a bit more Agreed Instagram's explore is getting a personalized shopping channel to let users discover items for purchase and then Checking out on the merchants website Instagram is also expanding its shopping tags for Instagram stories to all viewers worldwide After and letting brands in 46 countries add the shopping bag icon to stories that users can click through to buy what they saw Take that Pinterest Hmm, you know, we knew that this was happening. I don't I haven't bought anything yet This is this is news as far as the functionality that I'm seeing anyway Yeah, the category page is the is the key here, right? It's it's it's having a whole shopping section where you can just go and like get your retail therapy, so to speak Okay, so when Instagram first Introduced ads, you know, I was like hide ad hide ad I was really good about that for a while And I was like they're never stopping. I just I'll just do my best to ignore them I I do a pretty good job of not looking at ads every once in a while something gets me where I'm like Oh, that's a beautiful shot of a living room. Oh wait, that's not but But but I I'm not I'm not buying anything on Instagram. However, if I was following Oh, let's say a really cool interior designer who had Regular Items that were in his or her stories that were actually a value to me, you know, Tom You're moving to a new house that you can think of lots of reasons where this would be like, you know Maybe not all the time but but if it's a more seamless experience and they're gonna be ads anyway And then sure if you want to buy something This is why I want to emphasize the shopping section because this isn't about ads This is about people. I'm following selling me stuff or I Decide to go to the shopping section and and look for things to buy Rather than having it pushed to me in my feet. I think that's I think that's the bigger difference here Well, they're offering both the the functionality is doesn't really change the ads so much It's it's it's it's saying like hey folks who like to shop on Instagram. We're gonna make it even easier Well, sure, but that's an ad Well, okay that when you say ad I'm thinking the thing that shows up as a picture in my Instagram feed, right? That's not really changing The the check out I guess might get a little faster on those but there's nothing changing there What is changing is in my Instagram story from the person? I actually follow I Can click through and buy a thing because I follow the architect like you're saying or I and again The thing that I think is most significant is I can now go into a tab called shopping Specifically because I want to look at the catalog and buy some stuff Yeah, I mean hey give it give it its own tab Great if you want to buy stuff making it easier You're like I don't want to shop on Instagram, right? No, but I don't shop on Pinterest. Yeah, it's yeah It feels like this is a play to as you mentioned in the beginning time This is basically going for the now that they essentially killed the momentum of snapchat that they're turning their gaze on to Pinterest and thinking how can we kill them now? So that's well and also turn a turn a buck or two, right because they're gonna of course Yeah, and I'm guessing I'm guessing a lot of creators That are you know big on Instagram are very happy with this because they can get a commission I'm sure on stuff CNBC that Amazon plans to release at least eight new voice assistant power devices before the end of the year Including a microwave oven an amplifier a receiver a subwoofer and an in-car gadget Some kinds anonymous sources But all the devices may connect to Amazon voice control and some reportedly will have it built in as well Basically the difference between a light bulb that you could tell your echo to control Versus an Amazon echo itself Amazon's expected to announce the devices at an event later this month Yes, I'm guessing the let this is total guessing but like the amp the receiver in the subwoofer Would be like a sonos where you can tell your well actually sonos has Amazon voice services built-in So maybe that's a bad example But these are Amazon made so they're similar to the stuff that's already out there like a sonos But they're going to be made by Amazon some of them You'll tell your echo. Hey tell the microwave oven to set itself for two minutes, right? But you wouldn't be able to talk directly to the oven Let's say but then you could talk directly to the amp or to the car This is such an Amazon approach such an Amazon approach. All right. We have something good. Where else can you put it? Can we put it in the in the car? All right? Let's do it Patrick. Everybody's been making all of these products already It's just Amazon's like oh those seem to be doing well. Let's make them ourselves Right, but if you think of the other big tech companies, you know companies like like Google or Apple or even they seem a lot more Deliberate and considerate in the way they introduce new products Amazon has to be everywhere and try everything and see what sticks I think it's a slightly different approach. I Do think that the voice controlling worlds that many of us have become more used to a couple of years ago if you would have said a microwave oven you can tell to set for one minute I'd be like no one wants that and now I'm like, I want that I mean, I'm not like sitting around in the kitchen being like if only I could talk to my microwave oven But I would use it. I don't have to walk across the room and you know, I immediately think of Having the echo tell me like hey your microwave is done, right? In case you didn't hear it beeping or something like that Well, no, I mean, that's that's something with my tavala oven. It's in the other room I don't always hear the beep, but my app goes off, right? So having having the echo, you know, tell you like, oh your sandwich is ready. That that would be kind of Good to try yeah, I thought that would be the least controversial thing I've said all day You guys seem to think it's the dumbest thing. I mean, I think it's Why not but also I think you hear the beep. It's one of those things where I Think it's getting put into something. You don't really need it for but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong Maybe we live in different size places. Well, I also dislike the I'm sorry I understand. We're not from the same Estate Sometimes I'm like got music playing or whatever. I don't know you've never had that problem. I'm sorry I know I understand what you're saying. I just think it's not gonna get a lot of views for this But you know Fire phone or more, you know fire TV, we don't know I would say Firephone, but maybe it's more fire TV. I've been wanting to create a regular segment called you're so smart Where we get our listeners who are way smarter than us to write in and tell us things that they are very smart about What's that? I said excuse you Well, they're smarter than me. Well, we're at least have Can give us great examples of why some smart home device that we may not be using is really So microwave oven amp receiver subwoofer in car gadget feedback at daily tech news show calm to tell us why They would be useful. We were already covered the the spread of why they wouldn't be we don't necessarily hear about that part Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines comm So YouTube's retiring its gaming app It's been around since 2015. It's lasted a lot longer than other Google YouTube Companies, but it's going away sometime next spring. I'm not sure March April. They haven't quite decided yet Its features are supposed to all come to the YouTube app So the idea is not that they're getting rid of YouTube gaming, but they're just gonna fold it back into the YouTube app So things like gamepages live stream gaming from your phone. They say we're gonna figure that out We're gonna we're gonna give you an option for that somehow things like super chat and channel memberships are already in the YouTube app So that's our they're already moving in that direction and YouTube director of gaming content told tech crunch We have 200 million people that are logged in watching gaming content every single day 200 million and the majority of them quite frankly are just not using the YouTube gaming app for their gaming experience They're just watching on the regular YouTube app In fact over the last year more than 50 billion hours of gaming content has been watched and YouTube has over 500,000 quarterly active live gaming streamers and TechCrunch cited a sensor tower showing that there are 11 million total users of the YouTube gaming app That doesn't mean they're daily active users but 11 million told her you a total and they Consistently continue to install the app across iOS and Android Although 11 million total out of 200 million logged in tells you something right there They're also going to be launching YouTube comm slash gaming so you can go straight to all the gaming content That's launched in the u.s. With a global rollout to follow Yeah, so there's a lot to unpack here first of all 11 million out of 200 million logged in every day and 11 million is total installed 200 million logged in every day That's right. That's yeah, that's it's not even 11 million logged in It's a less number lesser number than 11 million logged in so it's a small percentage a small percentage I think a lot of people installed the app and then promptly never used it again, right? At least that's the anecdotal evidence I have on my end that seems to be what you do as well Yeah, exactly and I think a lot of people are taking this to mean YouTube is retiring YouTube gaming and as you explain it is Absolutely not the case. It could not be farther from the case YouTube is very much a gaming destination for pre-recorded videos and the interesting number that we have for Streamers is the one that I think should be noted. They say YouTube has over 500,000 quarter quarterly active like gaming streamers Quarterly, yeah, that's no one ever talks No one ever talks quarterly So I think the really interesting part here is YouTube launched YouTube gaming At the same time maybe in a bid to try and make Game streaming happen in an effort to take away some of Twitch's thunder And it seems they haven't really succeeded to be fair No one has really succeeded Facebook is trying the same thing, but the gaming community is very squarely Set on using Twitch for live streaming on the other hand Twitch is also not seemingly not making headway in or not even really trying to Be a destination for pre-recorded content beyond the archives of the streams So it's interesting to see that we have these two different properties where gaming is incredibly important on both But they each have their function and for some reason people don't want to use Either for the purpose that they weren't primarily designed for I'm not sure exactly why but I exhibit the same behavior I never go never go to YouTube for game streaming. There might be events. I'm gonna watch but not game streaming I always go to Twitch and vice versa But gaming is still an immense part of YouTube. It's the first, you know, the top one category of Videos period so it's still very I think that's what YouTube is discovered is oh We have a successful gaming Solute we we had a successful gaming community already Trying to create a twitch competitor called YouTube gaming just was sort of irrelevant to most people like well If it's YouTube, I'll just watch it on YouTube if they were going to take on twitch It might have been smarter It might have been dumber to create a separate brand that was called, you know thumbs Or something And and and integrate it with YouTube, but really kind of bill it as a twitch competitor like a young upstart I think you would have people install it and use it directly rather than calling it YouTube gaming in which people are like Oh, it's on YouTube. I'll just launch YouTube like when you search for YouTube gaming YouTube the app comes up and you probably end up just hitting that anyway And and it's mostly just as good if you're gonna you do everything through search So yes, it's good to have a game page that's dedicated to the game. You want to see but if you search for the the video the title of the video you want to see you're gonna get in anyway it as you Said the gaming portion of the app or well the entire app actually is gonna be ported over to the main YouTube app So it's still kind of live in there. So essentially we're kind of making a chicken out of a feather I think it's a Swedish saying We're making a chicken out of a feather because it this really doesn't mean anything other than literally the YouTube gaming app Is going away? I think it's resonated with people because YouTube is in the habit of taking things away That people like or that some people like in this case It's something that people didn't really like anyway I think you're absolutely right But all I can think of now is I'm never going to say mountain out of a molehill ever again It's chicken out of a feather from here on out I approve that was lovely Also, lovely everyone who participates in our subreddit you can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit comm We're also on Facebook head on over there facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Also, Chris Christensen is back with us with some tech to make you better understood when you're overseas This is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute On my last trip to central Europe I was reviewing a new device called a langogo which is available on Indiegogo not to confuse things But it is a pocket translator We're getting just a little closer to the babble fish or to the universal translator This device knows a number of different languages It has to be connected to a cell system So you have to either buy through them or have a sim that you can put into it But it does do translation and it does it pretty well. You just speak a phrase into it like Budapest was a very beautiful city and it gives you And that of course is in Hungarian because it does a great variety of languages I tested it with Hungarian and with native Brazilian Portuguese speakers And it got pretty good reviews for giving a decent translation and a good accent The device again is a langogo and I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler Yeah, I mean it's a dedicated device, but it's also a Wi-Fi hotspot So it's kind of it's kind of a cool thing I'm glad Chris pointed that out because I would have been like, well, you just get an app But it's it's got an eSIM in it. It's cool thing. Go check it out Sometimes a dedicated device is something you need also I'd like to say Chris Christensen really seems like more of a professional traveler to me I don't know if he has a day job I believe although Chris let me know if that's not true anymore and that was always the thing is as much as he travels He he still has to he still has to keep keep his day. I know. I know But you're right. He does travel quite a bit and he's good at it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, maybe he's not getting paid for it He's an Olympic athlete traveler All right, let's check out the mailbag let's do it Tim rodin and every once in a while We'd like to highlight somebody who's who's showing off their gear and that's DTNS gear Tim says hello Tom Sarah Roger and Patrick received my great DTNS hat a couple weeks ago It even looks good on old geeks here in the cornfields of Northern Illinois keep up the great work proud to be a boss and a fan a follower and a friend since the buzz out loud days Mag Tim Mag That's awesome and looking good in that hat brother Yeah, if you got if you got Gary you want us to show off, you know, keep them coming Yeah, send it to us feedback at daily tech news show comm Thanks to Patrick Bajar for being with us even though it's very dark Others and chickens and Finland on I know it's going on over there But we're always happy to have you what's been going on since we saw you last Well, listen, first of all, it's very dark here, but you are old my sunshine What's been going on wow so much how long do I have 30 seconds? All right It's an Emmy speech Patrick wrap it up Yes, cue the music because I'm gonna take a while so first of all Oh my god, he did it the Phileas Club We just recorded an episode called tales of fatherhood where we talk about being dads and when I say we we have me Who's half in France half in Finland? Martin who is half in France half in Japan and Bruce who grew up in Zimbabwe and currently is in Scotland And we talk about having kids and all of it, you know the the Announcement the pregnancy the the the the actual delivery how it went for us and the cultural differences and a bunch of other things So if you think you might be interested go check that out the other thing I would like to recommend is pixels which is a show about games and One of the recent episode we did was a special on it on the game dead cells where I Interviewed two of the developers. They're French and they have a lovely accent It's a show in English, but we talk about the game the challenges It's a huge success and we also talk about the company Which is a very weird structure where everyone is essentially a co CEO They all have the same share of the profits. They all have the same pay They all have the same decision power and it works So if you think that would be interesting go check that out It's the Phileas Club and pixels. It's available at French spin dot com Folks without you this show would just be a feather, but thanks to our patrons. It's a whole chicken It's a bunch. It's a freakin barnyard villa. Let's us. 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He doesn't hear anything from his kitchen I'm not crazy Okay, I'm crazy, but not that's not Crazy in different ways There's nothing with what you're making the doctor did not diagnose me because of my kitchen I really do feel though that There there are things that I have just I've gotten used to voice activated responses and it doesn't always work and there's a long way to go but This is something that I would have poo-pooed a couple of years ago Well, yeah, you got a handful of groceries or I don't know something's going on and you're or my microwave does this thing where It's like a hundred years old So if you know I set Something in there for a minute and then the minute goes by, you know, it beeps every five seconds And so I take that thing out of the microwave Which is Makes me crazy because sometimes I'm like, I know I know I put it in there a minute ago Just give me a break if I could do anything just to be able to like call to it Stop being from the next room. I would I would be happy to do that. Thank you Amazon in advance Well, and I think you're right like I could throw something in the microwave shut the door and then without having to think just say set timer Start microwave for two minutes. You're right, you know, like yeah, it's kind of I know it doesn't seem like much But that could be kind of nice Especially if you didn't have to pay a lot extra for that microwave and it's not a voice assistant itself It's just controllable through your echo like yeah a lot of the voice stuff to me besides wanting to play Specific a specific song or look up something is kind of silly sort of, you know, like what's the weather today? Like Amazon assistance name and I do that every morning first thing I do when I wake up And it's like was I looking up the weather in a chrome tab every day? No, I wasn't but it's so easy to figure out what the weather is going to be like outside I find it convenient enough that it has become part of my routine. It's I have definitely the little things that I have asked My echo what time it was getting out of the shower We have an echo dot in the bathroom and I'll be like, you know hurrying up like I got to get ready And so before I can even put my watch back on I'm like, you know, what time is it? Just just to let me know where I am in my day. Yeah, like a silly thing if you told someone and you can ask it What time it is like, yeah, they're like, yeah, they're like, are you like that clueless about what time it is 10 minutes? I do that with Siri all the time when my hands are busy My phone is on the desk. Yeah, I do Yeah, it's it's these little conveniences that I think sound trivial, but after you get used to them, you're like, ah, if this went away, I would really miss it Maybe and on that note, I will thank you very much for Welcoming me in your midst And retire welcoming us and to you. Thank you for being in our midst Let's go back to the chickens that that that works Uh, did the name of the show be making a chicken? Yes make it so Excellent. Um, actually a little bonus for people listening to the post show. I actually know this Um expression not from my wife or the many Swedish speaking people who I frequent daily here But from the game overwatch where the actor Torbjörn says You're making a chicken out of the feather and you've confirmed that this is a real saying not just something they made up I think I did at some point. Okay But I might wait. Yeah I still love it Is it the same thing as mountain and molehill? Because that would be like you're overreacting. Yes. Yes. That's what it is So that's great. I'm gonna start saying that and people would be like, what? That's not the same So I just googled this and uh on reddit They have a couple of additional ones that torbjörn also says Making something making a chicken out of a feather. You're making something much larger than it is Another one is don't get caught with your beard in the letterbox avoid being caught red-handed Beard in the letterbox is an interesting choice of someone's mail Yeah, maybe and uh, let's not buy the pig while it's still in the bag. So Oh, yeah, pig in a poke. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, there you go Well, can't can't counting chickens before they're hatched right right right Although that's a little bit more like let's not get ahead of ourselves. Yeah Picking a poke by by the pig while it's still in the sack is kind of get the same General sentiment a little bit or yeah, actually, it's more, you know, don't don't count your chicken No, it's more like don't commit to it before you know what it is. Yeah, I think Yeah, there's a subtle difference. I guess but it's the general thing of don't don't count on something until you're sure I mean, it might be it might not be tom. Don't make a chicken out of the feather. It doesn't matter Listen, it's a pig in a poke Something So if you ever hear a pig in a poke that's like It's it's an old scam from the middle ages where they'd sell you a heavy-looking poke Like yeah, there's a pig in here because pigs always come in pokes You know that and then you get it home and open it up and that'd be full of you mean like You mean like a poke has a pig in it like a laptop in a FedEx box That's remarkably only $30 right right where they had rocks in the or they had rocks in the iPhone boxes a couple of times. Yeah All right, all right, uh many hugs to all of you Talk to you next week. Oh wait. Is it next week? Is it the last Yes, uh, you Oh, so it's not next week. You're not you're not here I will see you in two weeks Go enjoy your chicken and feathers I'll be in a whole new place I'll have lived in my new place for weeks by the time I see you next that is amazing I expect comfortable comfiness Out of you. You'll I'll do it for you Excellent, uh by tom by roger by scooter. Bye Patrick Oh The fixer and irc reminds me of the the saying that It's been explained to me, but I still don't get it A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush Yeah, I don't I don't get it. Oh, you know, I know what it means, but I I don't get the saying Well, though the idea is you already have a bird in your hand Right because to get two birds in the bush you would have to let go of the one to grab the other two But that's not a sure thing. Huh? Where's the bush? Oh, it's just it's just think of it like the australians use it like A bird in the hand is worth two out there somewhere Oh So it's not like The shrub that the bird lives in no no Okay, it's just it's like coffee in your mind is worth more than coffee down at the coffee shop Because you've already got it. Yeah, it's not opportunity cost or loss Okay Well, now I know Have we successfully explained this to you? Yeah, I still think it's a really weird saying but I I say it sometimes and I'm like I know what I'm saying and I know why I'm saying it I understand the connotation. I assume it goes back to bird hunting Somehow like look you've got one if you try to get those two in the bush And you put that one down to get a bird in the hand is worth two in the wild Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah well, the idea is that You have something already and there's an opportunity to get more but that opportunity comes with the cost of Not having the one in your hand anymore Right, it's like, oh you have you have 10 bucks and you have a chance to make 20 Sure, but you definitely have 10 dollars. Do you? And this is why I don't like gambling. It's like lottery tickets. You have the $10. Yeah $10 is in my hand. I took me a long time to understand have your cake and eat it too Okay, so that's another one. That's another one. That's a that's a good example for you're like I get it so It's horribly phrased again, it's a it's antique phrasing that causes the confusion the saying is It's like wanting to have eaten your cake, but still have it on the plate in front of you right Which is not nearly as snappy as have your cake and eat it. I'm not snappy at all. I want cake Now we want cake. I want a derby cake I don't know what I made today A carrot a carrot cake might a really good slice of carrot cake. What's a derby cake? Yeah, that's a derby cake. Oh Well, you want one you can't no, no, I'm trying to pull up a picture for you cheese It's like, well, I don't know what it is. I don't know You're so I'm not looking at the video. So pulling up a picture is not going to do me any good I have I have you guys don't realize the cake you get when running with horses So my my entire screen is filled with editing stuff right now Hey, well, it's a very delicious chocolate cake with real cream in the middle Very good It's good Is it a particular brand of cake? No, it's a style of cake. I used to get it all the time for birthday parties including mine Still showing it here. Oh, that's it. I know I've never seen that before. That's amazing. They're really good Okay, I used to hate cakes not like hate them, but like if I had the opportunity to get a pie or something Oh, yeah, that's me now But derby cakes are like, okay, hold on now. Like I don't even like velvet cake Would you say derby cakes changed the game? That just looks like a cake to me Oh, but it's no it's not just what it looks like cakes are not just about looks they're about eating No, but a cake by its cover Fine that looks like it tastes like a cake Yes a cake with layers Yes, it does that taste like chicken and dumplings if But no if a derby cake is specifically chocolate and Vanilla cream got it if it's about layers of different types of layers. It's layered It's not just a cake with you know the the cream it's layered But it's layered with like, you know the one I used to get had strawberries and bananas Like as a layer Covered in the cream and it's not frosting. It's like whipped cream Which is even that's where my my love of pie is that they're generally fruit pies more often than not Uh, and those are the ones I like so a cake with fruit in it suddenly does become more appealing to me Like when I I used to tell my I used to tell my wife I used to I told Jen like I loved the old my old birthday cakes when I was a kid partly because of nostalgia But my mom would get from Chinatown, but they were these Round white cakes and they would have cut cling peaches inside and one giant cling peach on top I loved it. That's not really good cling peaches are pretty uh, the the tinned ones right the the ones yeah, I assume they They grabbed in front of ten, but they're they're super moist from being in all that syrup Well, you can get them now. That's just in juice. So it's not as um unhealthy. I agree. I guess I want I want dessert the problem is I need to eat real food too decisions decisions Yeah, I had that thought last night where uh, as I ate my favorite ramen Uh, you know, and I'm just halfway through it. I'm like, you know, sarah You could have just made the broccoli that was in the fridge With some rice and like plenty of seasoning that you have at the ready But you didn't you just got ramen delivery instead It's my fault you want to eat more vegetables. It's my fault It is there because there's a limited amount of willpower in the world And yesterday I went to the new house and I was gonna go To this little restaurant nearby that has pie And I was going to be all decadent and treat myself because Eileen was out of the screening And instead I got lazy and said, you know what? I'm just going to eat the leftover chicken That's in the fridge here And that's what I did and because I did that it took away One opportunity from the universe to eat something out of your fridge instead of ordering food And so you were you were stuck you had to order food Well, thanks for nothing. Yeah, sorry about that. You know, I don't think maybe it was true There's a limited amount of willpower Willpower is finite Well, I mean the whole thing with the green lantern is his ring is powered by the force of willpower throughout the universe It's one of the spectrums right the power of the powerings I mean if you limit, you know, I don't know Well, there's a limited amount of power that can go to his ring too. That's true But you know, it's infinite like he's using it all the time Granted, he has to recharge this through his lantern battery and he has to charge that through the great battery on oa I still want a cake though Well folks you deserve cake too. So if you're watching the video We're going to wrap up you go get yourself a slice of cake or pie or perhaps Just a granola bar whatever suits you the best audio people stick around. There's more to come