 I've been married for six years with my partner Bruce. We met Alex actually three years ago when we opened up our relationship. We were just opening up our relationship because we had the level of trust that nobody else really had around us since we thought we'd make our life a little more interesting. So we started to maybe go out and date and try it and we realized after a few months that we were looking for a deeper, a deeper connection and something more than just you know I mean the odd hook up here and there and when we met Alex it just it really clicked and we started out as friends. Being from a small town I didn't know any gay people so it was nice to meet other gay people when I moved to the city and just hanging out and then slowly it just, it happened, none of us knew what Kali was. Yeah it was a learning experience like especially three years ago you've heard more about it now even in the last year that I've heard you know to me ever. I think experience really just, it speaks more than you know what I mean, a title. We all pick each other up in different areas, we all have different strengths and weaknesses that kind of you know you fill in these gaps for each other and that's the best part about it is we have this like this feeling of a family that we never really had kind of maybe from our own families growing up that we've created for ourselves. People's biggest misconception is that we're constantly jealous all the time of each other and that can be farther from the truth because we're all equal and we all get what we need from each other. We were completely transparent about everything in our lives and I think that's the only way that a relationship like this would ever work. Even if I go do a video at the studio or someone else I'm showing them everything, every message, everything I do, I want them to be involved, I want them to know because it makes me feel better. I would say definitely like walk before you run, try not to go too quickly into it I would say definitely try to open yourself up first, see if even a three-way you know any lifestyle is something that you could imagine yourself doing, maybe put yourself in some situations like that and maybe just do a little bit of research on it. Try to always be as honest as you can with your partners when you're going down this road because if you don't have that level of trust then you're not going to be successful especially in a volunteer job.