 really good all those pitches again you know it you know use the fastball the breaking ball to change up all effectively I mean that's a really good lineup he went through you know definitely think he hit the wall there at the end I was gonna take him out actually after the Castro strike out there were two outs just hoping he could get through Buxton you know but I think he showed in that he was clearly even the couple hitters leading up to that it felt like he was hitting the wall a little bit but really good effort and then you know for the guys to come in and and protect that was huge he's a guy that you weren't necessarily counting on this season to be a big part of your starting rotation and he's been a huge part of a lot of the wins do you ever wonder where this team would be without him and the way he's been pitching yeah well I think we did think he'd be a huge part of it you know in what exact role you know I think there was we certainly envisioned him at the very least making starts but being a very valuable member in some way shape or form of our club and as I've talked a lot about you know feel like his winner his when he came into spring training it was visible the strides that he had made going back to last year and now where he's at now so he's been huge he really has he's been you know to this point you know he's been one of the better pitchers I think in the game with Kaynley he's retired 28 of the last 30 batters that he's faced he looks like a different pitcher on the mound what do you see as the biggest difference this year from a year ago yeah I mean he just looks really online you know the couple times I feel like or where he gets a little out of whack for a couple pitches I think he's done a really good job of self-correcting and locking it right back in and getting back online and the stuff's been there pretty much every outing and the feel of the secondary pitches the change-ups obviously a huge pitch for him the ability to throw that at any time as well as doing a really good job of elevating his fastball he's been a real weapon for us especially against left-handed hitters with that change-up so and the other thing you know when he's had to make a pitch you know in 2-2-3-2 counts he's not predictable and he's been able to to make a big pitch with with either the fastball to change up even the slider at times but that fastball change-up especially he's been really good Dan did you go to Chapman there in the 8th with the thought that you might not have a 9th inning we went there with with the thought that it might be a 4-out save but certainly you know the weather wasn't looking real good so you know we're probably maybe a little more aggressive but we're prepared to be a 4-out save situation if if that was a case and out of you know what was going on with him just was it was the weather impacting his command I think it probably did a little bit I think it impacted Chappy even though he came in and got it obviously impacted their guy so I think it was getting to a point where you know whether the mound whether ball just being moist I think it was probably impacting guys to varying degrees but you know I mean just hit by pitch they got away and I'm sure it whether had at least something to do with it you mentioned the big strides Hermann's made what are those strides I think it's you know he's done such a good job of being able to strike all his pitches and no matter the count confidence in all three of them and he's used them all effectively it seems like just about every outing so you know he could get behind in the count whether he's ahead in the count and he has the ability and I think he's done a really good job of of kind of not trying to do too much for the most part just trusting that he can get back into account with any pitch and he can put you away with any pitch frankly so he's pitching with a lot of confidence and under control which has been really nice to see Eric and Anthony Aaron Trenton was rained out today is that impact what you guys are going to do with no Frazier will be here tomorrow damn cashman said on the on the radio that Dylan might start a throwing pro start a throwing program tomorrow and then he might have been checked out today do you know those things are yeah I don't have that for you I think that's my understanding I didn't get any update on Dylan over the last several hours but my understanding was tomorrow or one of these next couple days so that's gonna start to happen anyone else right here in the middle aren't you obviously get a big hit from Tauchman there to get some breathing room I guess how big for him and is he though the logical guy to be swapped for Frazier no no he won't be swapped Frazier it was really big you know he's he's done it you know a good job for us certainly defensively he's he's been really good in the outfield he's gotten some big hits for us he does a good job of controlling the zone and today to get on a fastball like he did and and give us a little bit of a cushion there was huge you know but battle on a little bit this last week at the plate but that was a big at bat that I know he's worked really hard kind of behind the scenes and put himself in a position there to take advantage of a good pitch to hit and he did thank you man