 Hello everyone and welcome back to the unrestricted podcast. I'm Maddie Stuntz and I'm also joined here with Drew Camden a.k.a. Lydrib. How's it going guys? And Chad Kapper. How's it going Chad? Hey, I'm Chad Kapper. Hey. Hi. Welcome to me. Yeah And you're rocking a beard right now. Yes, I am. How long has this been going for? I haven't seen Maddie in like eight years. Well two months settled down. It hasn't been that long, but Well, yes, okay, so let's address the elephant in the room here. We haven't put out a podcast in the last little while Kind of to do with I guess I would say it's my fault. No, I would I would completely say it's your fault Yeah, but at the same time I've been doing adult stuff, which it took a lot out of me Just bought a house. You got married. Just got yeah I got married got just bought a house with my wifey and And in Vancouver. Did you really get married? No, I didn't get married. I was I was actually trolling my girlfriend But she's like the worst possible troll. Well, she's like this. This is literally what she said She's like so We have the mortgage broker. We got to go through these documents and we got some paperwork from the lawyers and can you look at these other two houses and Also, do you think you could change your status on Facebook and she like just stuck it in there And I'm like really do I have to and she's like well, yeah I want to show people off and all that stuff. So I was like, okay, cool. So when I went in there, you know, Maddie stunts Very Maddie stunts and just figured I'd said, okay. Well I wasted a congratulations on you. I got like 250 congratulations I was kind of like upset at myself that all these people think I'm married now But it we're in we're in a marriage like relationship. So what do you think it'll stay you think it'll stick? Yeah, of course Oh, what the marriage proposed no proposal right now like well on the podcast. Yeah, no proposal right now I'm gonna I'll tell you a little bit about what's what's happened. Okay, so literally in the since two years ago, I was on the verge of suicide and since then Jenny's been in my life for a little while now and Since then I went from not thinking I would have a future to Us trying to build a family together and maybe even having kids and so Jenny is absolutely like a savior in my life So It's it's very good. She's she's taught me how to visualize The future more than anyone else has and she's a really smart girl She's she's from Taiwan, but she speaks like Taiwanese Cantonese Mandarin. She's very smart works for a big developer in Vancouver and And yeah, so it's it's great guys. It's made me more motivated and and obviously It's been such a long time since we've done this But it's because we've been doing like life real life shit But on top of that she wants me to you know pursue more stuff in FPVing and in all that other stuff So whoa, that was my next question. What does she think of your hobby? She loves it. She's learning how to fly well We've been watching Game of Thrones lately, so she hasn't really been on the sim as much but she's been learning I wanted her to learn how to fly so she can come out and and She she really likes what I do. She supports me in everything that I would want to do so Great girl. That's my personal life in a nutshell lately though. That's been happening Yeah, what's a really good story, you know, I feel like I can't make fun of you or you Maddie for not doing a podcast Having all sorts of life. Oh, you can still do that. Okay. Yeah, come on. I'm restricted, baby Yeah, well, so we just lost Chad there, but yeah, the long and short of it is it's uh, it went I went from nothing to buying a house with a the woman I love so it's What's really awesome. Okay. I'm back. There you go So what's been happening with you guys that what tell the audience what's been happening in the Drew world. What's going on? My world That's you. Yeah. Well, I'm running the company now. So that's that's been a big thing Just skim over that just talk about it. Just skimming over that. What do you mean skit? Well, I'm skimming over I thought you're always running the company Well I wouldn't say that's inaccurate All right, I'll see you later Well, you know, we know what I mean, you were the biggest I think you were not a biggest but you had a very big part in Organizing everything. So what hot what's changed since from what I thought your roles and responsibilities were? well, just They're officially appointed as president of the company. So I've been kind of growing into it really over the past two three months. Just kind of running more of the meetings getting more directly involved with behind-the-scenes financials and the retail operations and just kind of like every everything And so I did I think September September 1st, right? Yes first weekend of September. That's when the you know official press release Is kind of went out to to announce me as president So one month has almost gone by that you haven't driven it into the ground Yeah, the stock hasn't dropped. So what what was Chad before that then Chad? I guess you were the president or CEO or how president and CEO I guess owner And then how does this affect your status then or I should say title? So I a lot of people might not The well and everybody kind of shares like or it doesn't share the exact same terminology for what they mean, but I look at as a CEO is Kind of the the visionary as far as working it More partnership levels You know the bigger financial decisions where president is like daily Activity and president is still very involved in the vision of the company But I don't know. I mean, I that's that's how I see it You know Drew's running everything. I mean he he more or less consults with me, but he doesn't have to ask my permission and Yeah, and you know something I do want to put out there, you know anybody that's You know working their way up through a company or you know was running a company or once to run a company You know I Drew had always I guess looked at me as kind of a mentor and As I would give him advice. He would like immediately implement it And that was super impressive because a lot of times People ask advice of people that you know, they want to learn from but then Ultimately what they want to do is just validate their decisions You know people want to make the decisions they want to make and they want somebody they look up to to Validate that they're making the right decisions where I Think and Drew probably did this in his prior career job as well Because he moved up the ranks pretty quickly, but I guess what I want to say is you have to seize the opportunity like nobody's going to hand you leadership like you have to take it and and I've had You know conversations with Drew about that, you know and and he did he totally even kind of surprised me at times like he would Instead of You know something going well and you know, typically people will try to claim their part in it when it when something does well Drew would actually almost go the other way when something was suffering He would ask for the responsibility of fixing it and sometimes not even ask just do it and Most the time he would just do it so that's why he's in the role that he's in it's you know He took he took the role but I'm also I I'm a good starter, you know, I start things and get them established once they're established I'm really bad at managing them. I'm not a good Manager, so Drew is a an excellent manager. Well, when you guys came up here I realized that Drew's areas like myself and I remember even remember having the conversation with them that he's a We're good management people and I see that I I can see that in him and in everything that I've ever dealt with him in or just seen him dealt with the situation. So yeah, that's awesome. I'm I'm happy. That's that's a great a great Added diversity to I guess the company that was already still there, but it's it's good to see the What what word am I looking for here credit? No Showing the person that they are good. What is that word goddamn it? recognition No, whatever you're trying to say. Thank you Thank you kind words. No, thank you I'm excited about it and I think kind of what you're saying about You know one of the pilots Being like for me the leader that's that's what I think is kind of the best part of it is that you know I'm still still a pilot always will be a pilot and I want that That perspective kind of in place for the company at a leadership level so that we can Continue. I don't want to say that Chad hasn't always put pilots first. He always has You know the people that works for the company and and being kind of the pro pilots or the sponsored pilots or whatever But I'm I'm hopeful that my perspective having been on that side still being on that side Can you know? Continue that in a good way people always respect when people have walked in their shoes and even though I fly I don't I don't fly like The road a riot pilot. It's not even close. So So and and it wouldn't matter if I practice forever. I'm just I'm never gonna get to that level and You know drew has He has really just even shot past what I think a lot of people thought he was capable of In that area. So I think he has earned a lot of respect in multiple areas and So I think that's that's good for the company as well Plus a big part of my time now is going to the F.P. Yeah The next thing he's starting the next thing what is always so the FPV freedom coalition is an organization Actually, it's going to be a and it's going to be a corporation that we're putting together a non-profit corporation And various reasons as to why it was an hour and a half lawyer conversation yesterday, but But the purpose of it is to solely focus on the freedoms of The FPV pilots Where the AMA encompasses radio control aircraft the FPV freedom coalition will be very specific to FPV pilots and initially We want to be able to create a community-based organization that Will be able to provide Specific guidelines for FPV not not just guidelines or rules based on Adapting them from fixed wing or line of sight or other things but to think of it primarily first and what are the best guidelines to operate by serving the needs and Dare I say desires of the FPV pilot That's that the context is that But the comparison to the AMA that's the real only in America existing CBO community-based wait Community-based organization. Yep. Yeah CBO community-based organization is the AMA and like you're saying it's it's all RC Flying things. So this is meant to be more focused on FPV because it is a very different Community and a different use case for radio control. Yeah, and the AMA has I mean they're they're working hard for a lot of things and and there's nothing wrong with that and I think some people looked at this as competition, but I I've never seen it as competition. I think it's just a focused effort For an area and if anything it it gives both organizations more power That's awesome. So if it's nonprofit and you have to put so much time to it. Do you get Any type of like compensation for your time? No, no, it would be this is totally it's something for you to Help the community with and and make sure that we don't get screwed over by the rule makers Well, yeah, but I mean it's not completely altruistic. I own multiple companies in the space. So You know, that's right. That's it. So in the space grows, you know, our companies grow But yeah, I mean but my heart has always been to help people have fun I mean if you look at my history, you know everything from my production company to flight test to road of riot It's to help create jobs for people to have a great time in their career Because I have every job I've had I've it's been something within my interest and not every job early on I had some Jobs that I couldn't stand but at some point I got to have a career doing what I absolutely loved and Around me have been so many people that hate what they do and it just it There's quite frankly There's a big question mark of wait. Why do I get to enjoy what I do? And other people don't so I try to make those opportunities for other people You know the way that I have them. Mm-hmm. That's awesome, man I'm looking forward to it. Um gave me my dream job. It's what I always say. Yeah, that's a to to Be be uh, you know, semi movie star on youtube got to design drone parts got to fly Things got to do podcasts travel around the world Yeah, and now In running that organization. I want to continue to Secure those same opportunities for other pilots. You know, that's something I'm really enthusiastic about with the future of road of riot is as You know, everyone that's currently working for road of riot making sure that their job is secure And that we can continue to bring on more people And you know, I eventually even start finding ways for people passionate about fpv or drones to find work Even if it's not directly for us You know to make those connections Yeah, and you know what I want to make sure Call attention to the other guys as well. I mean, you know, everybody from, you know, kevin To tommy to barred. Well to bot grinder. You know, he's doing so much work with quad can't or i'm sorry quad box Kevin is doing a absolutely phenomenal job of building quad camp out online And it's very innovative the way he's going about it and I really get excited about that because I feel like You know, we we we we get a chance to Really really innovate, you know with our products we refine You know, what's out there? We we take something that's out there and we refine it And you know, I would say tommy's pushing forward on innovation with, you know, the sticky pad and You know, the umma grip but The the acro brat the remix And then kevin is really pushing forward in the educational space. I mean to it's awesome Essentially have world-class Education available at 20 bucks a month. I mean, it's it's awesome and it's not just education It's fun, you know, you get to be part of That community and get access to you know pro expert help And I just get so excited about that because I can see his vision for it And I love that he can focus on building that he doesn't have to worry about You know flying a you know a commercial airline Um or a commercial airplane and do this on the side he can focus his energy on building this out and And obviously, you know, joshua has been you know doing this stuff You know for a while now So I just get really excited about the team and what everybody's doing and I think drew has done a great job of Keep making them more effective by keeping people more focused than I can so And maddy comes up and maddy comes out with a podcast every two months. So You know maddy's killing in the podcast world, you know Actually you this is this is your baby and you made it something that I enjoy doing I think a lot of people enjoy watching and listening to it and it's uh No, I just I just love that I love If if there's anything that I can do or we can do to you know, help people do stuff. They love. I think it's great Yeah, I I mean one was the last time I put out that last edit was in like july or something like that And I flight edit you always won you always Not us their company the the community needs to see a new maddy sun's flight video. It's been too long So well, I know you've got something now So okay, so But before that edit I didn't put an edit out in on youtube for like almost six months So this is usually what my like common thing is lately since I I mean the first year it was like I was flying and editing all the time But then like after that it was kind of like maddy stunts would come out of the cave and then go back into the cave this this little um sabbatical has only been about two months, but before I had it July 27th I had a trick list that I wanted to start working on filming and there was new tricks on top of the other new Tricks that were released in the last edit um I've told drew about one of them And he thinks that I should release it right now because it'll break the internet man But it was this trick. I just I can't I can't do it buddy I went out yesterday to try to get a good get a swear to god. Wait. Why can't you release it? well, I mean I guess I could tell people I'm sure I'll post something before this one comes this podcast comes out But I learned how to grind rails like properly like proper grind so, um Well, I don't want to people grind rails But no, it's not like a it's not a bonk. It's like I lock in and I do like rainbow rails and like grind them You would yeah, no chat. It's freaking. It's stupid. It's stupid It like yeah, it's not it's not a real bonk. It's a proper grind like it It takes a lot too like I'm not going to say that it's a trick that you can do every time Even when I started I practiced some Getting them like locked in for like three days And then even after like the two week mark it wasn't it was still five out of ten that you'd hit So it's very hard because you have to tune the quad properly You have to make sure that you're lined up and and to hit a rail that's only like, you know a couple inches big and to make sure that you're at the exact proper speed and and elevation and just feathering it on to stay on is You have to be really like precise So it is a fun trick attachment on the drone like something like some sort of curved. I don't know true I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. No, no pretend like this is this podcast Maybe that a podcast will come out after you've released it. No, I got so my whole thing with it is I don't want to release it until I have Like a murder edit of just rail jibbing. So Do it Yes, I started to try to do it yesterday But the rail that I usually practice at was Completely full of people because this I started doing this in the summertime in the school that I was at Um schools in and they have soccer practice and all that boring stuff. So Um I'm probably gonna you have to have some sort of attack because use the bottom out battery So I'm gonna have you change your frame. I'm gonna have to Wait until the weekend and then on the weekend. I'll try to go. I'm gonna go out. I'm already told jenny. I'm like jenny We got a wait to get a dining room table delivered and then we Are going out flying so Hopefully after a saturday. I'll have something released on instagram. I'm not going to tell anyone How I do it until I actually Release the full edit though drew just wants me it wants me to release a clip I'll release the clip and then once I've released the full edit I'll tell everyone the secret But I'm sure everyone so that is something I do appreciate about you is so you do Play because I know you've done this trick back in july and you're sitting on it Um, so I know you kind of play things close to your chest But something I really appreciate is once it's out there So you save it so that you can put it out there, but once it's out there You're more than happy to explain to people how you do it Well, but there's a lot of pilots. I don't know it it's hard to prove But I do feel that there are certain pilots that They try to be a little bit more secret about their sauce, you know, or they'll they'll Downplay what it is, you know, it's not it's different. It's just not No, no names. No names. No names Maddie stunts maddie stunts. No names Um No, yeah, yeah, okay I'll be more than happy what I think what we should do is um for the future of road ride I absolutely when we move into the new house We have like a a catrillion bedrooms in this place. So come on down to vancouver Uh, I already talked to drew about this chat, but what we should do is fly into seattle I'll come pick you up in seattle And then come up to the house the maddie the maddie range and then uh, we should build we should shoot A how-to edit on the trick And why seattle? Well, because then It's because we're not filming in canada. So we're going to film everything in seattle. Yeah. Ah, yeah And even that it's like your flights are probably going to be cheaper if you land in seattle and I come grab you Right, then you don't have to get you don't have to rent a car You don't have to pay for a hotel all that stuff. It could be a cheap Little trip for you guys, right? Nice we can get some long-ranging done and do some other stuff, you know Yeah, but um, say when you like that. Well, I think start of november Okay, yeah, I even have a little bit sooner because we're I have so we when we film content We we like we'll get like a bunch and so we'll have like some scheduled out We're you know, we've got rampage coming up and then after rampage probably Mid or late october, we're going to need to get a crew together again to fill in the next batch of episodes if you guys feel like coming over October 22nd ish That might work. You're more you're more than welcome. The only thing is I'll be doing some rhinos around the house Upstairs, but the place will be so big. We can literally like move mattresses downstairs And you know, there's like three living rooms fucking five bedrooms and shit. So it's it's big So we'll have we slow it. We I just had everyone over to my house for a for a film week and like They were in my basement small basement. Just air mattresses all next to each other Yeah, no, we have like king size beds for like everyone pretty much So maddy, do you know what I'm doing that weekend specifically? No, I'm going to a crypto conference. Oh, no way Yes, so it's in la maybe you should come down Well, no no no no chat chat you go to the crypto don't distract him We're I'm getting a crew together and we're going to go film stuff it with maddy stunts. You go to crypto conference. Whatever. No, no, no Don't distract him Okay, so drew. I mean, I'm going to tell you right now. Okay. I'm not going to confirm or deny it, but if If you're a rollerblader or if you're a skateboarder or if you're a BMXer A BMX if you take on just a regular bike and you try to grind with that bike It wasn't possible until they modded it to be able to grind it, right? Yeah, they put the pegs. Yeah, okay. So same same same for grinding a drone So the pegs like they're coming off the arm ends. What is it? No, or is it on the nose? It's not it's not peg It's just it's a design Whether I feel like it'd be something on the nose right went through sort of for I know you're you're just trying to suck You're just trying to suck the information. I'm not I'm not going that's it. That's all I have You're posting it this Saturday. It's Thursday. You're posting it in two days, right? I'll tell you this. I went through a couple different designs and there's actually a design that works better than the other So, um Are you working with rebel on them? I'm sure no, no, no, I did I did all this stuff myself just did in my What are you making out of like are you just are you just hammering metal into place? Is this 3d printed? What is it? You have to see when you come up. You'll see when you come up. What is that metal? I can't do it Uh, what else so There's a new hero 7 and I see you've you've had some hands-on experience with it. Yep. What's uh Yeah gopro reached out to us and and gave it to us a week before it came out and said we could you know Film an episode and not release until the embargo is over um, but that was pretty cool of of them to really recognize um the fpv use case and you know, we got on a conference call and um I think two two of the guys from gopro on the call were fpv pilots themselves You know, so like yeah, it's pretty cool. That's awesome. Well, okay, so now Give me give me the details here. Is this thing is this thing good? Is it worth the upgrade from the last one? Uh, well, it depends on what you want to use it for so I mean like What are the biggest the biggest advantages of it? So let's say three things one is better spec. So it'll do 4k super view 60 frames a second, you know, whoo Then it's so that's that's bullet point one and then the next two bullet points are new features. So one feature is called Uh, oh shoot. Is it time warp? I think it's called time warp. So it's kind of like It makes hyper lapses for you. So you can just walk you can just walk with the camera in your hand and it will I don't think it's really taking pictures. It's taking video, but it's doing real-time stabilization um So you can you know what like a hyper lapses, right? Yeah, you might see someone like walking around the city square and the people are like You know running all in the clouds are moving, but it's like a moving time lapse So now you can do that handheld. So now I I've done hyper lapses And I've learned how to do my dslr and with the inspire and I know um, I know what you're talking about you have to When I do it, it's a timed Interval for my camera my picture And then you have to frame up the subject and then an actual measured out um traveling distance that you have to go So To make it look really really really pretty. That's what you have to do How easy is it to do it on that new gopro? Just walk with it. I mean the this more steady you can hold it the better. It's going to be so i'm Exporting a vlog tonight. It's going to go live either tonight or tomorrow morning Um, so well well before this podcast gets posted But there's a little transition scene so I get to the bando and I'm like over at this spot And then I do a hyper lapse where I walk like around it and then into it and seriously that was just in my hand I just kind of walked Walked my little path and then the hyper lapse that it spit out. It was a little shaky I could have been more steady with my hand But then I just put a warp stabilizer in premiere and it's like it's looking really good So it's it'll take a little bit of practice, but dude It's so much easier than doing something with your DSLR because you just walk it, you know, it You know what the secret is to that drew? um, the secret is shaky uh having better, um stable Video with your gopro is all these guys what they do is they put it in their mouth and when you put it in your Mouth it keeps it very rock solid. So you just holding your mouth and you just look where you want to go And it even if you're trying to film someone or film something if you have it in your mouth It just for some reason your head doesn't shake as much as the stabilization is in your muscles Because if you think of it like a chicken, right you have all these different stabilizing muscles that are trying to To hold you steady, but your head is when you're walking. It's not like your head is Jerry your vision is dirty, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, you're like a pigeon Okay, so okay, so there's the hyperlapse and then so the third the third bullet point is a second feature that's called hyper smooth So this is they're calling it the the death to gimbals Um, they're calling it magic. It is um, it's really good. So it's it's really powerful in camera stabilization all digital You know the five the five stabilization was pretty bad I mean you could it might help handheld shots a little bit But for example, if you put the hero five on a quad and use stabilization It would ruin your footage. You'd get really weird movements bad vibrations. Just awful Um, six stabilization You could use it on a quad. I've seen it used on the quad. Sometimes it worked okay I don't know the seven it works pretty pretty dang well on a quad I've still pushed it a couple times where there's been a couple I won't fly with it on if I'm doing acro But if I was chasing a subject And a great example of this is johnny his you know his video that he put out the day the Seven was announced was him chasing some cars if I was doing something like that chasing cars or a subject Or doing something cinematic like gab just flying up and then back down a cliff line I would totally use it. No no reason not to it's it's pretty awesome Yeah, now I have the six and it would it took me a long time to get this but I started I use this only for Like it's never been crashed or anything that it's basically for long-ranging mid-ranging stuff um, yeah Never would put it in like concrete or whatever, but it's just I fly on the because I don't have any sessions left. Yeah, so I destroy my oh really you don't have sessions left No, I killed them all and so now I just fly all sixes or five and when I say five I don't mean session five like I have the full size five So this thing When I put it into stabilization mode and then do like a fly down a shoot or like film some water It is crazy stable and then you can put stabilization on it through warp stabilizer and premiere And you can still get a very stable. So it's even better. Hey even better than that It's definitely better. Now. Can you make it probably could you make it good with the software? Or is it something where? Yeah, or yeah, I do I don't know what the hardware changed I don't know about the guts, but you know, I do know that the the hero The cheap one that the $200 one that couldn't even do more than 1080p People figured out you could flash the firmware and turn it turn into a full blown five So I don't know you might be able to get some more performance out of the six But I do believe there are hardware changes I know it's got some better wi-fi technology built in that's that's hardware dependent But um what I'm saying is could you do a hero six film the zach same? Subject that you're filming and could you get the six looking as good as the seven with adobe premiere? Oh, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't I mean the point is the six has discontinued anyway Right and well the only is not going to be any more expensive So like if you already have a six should you run out and get a seven probably not unless You know, you always want the cutting edge stuff But you know if you're in the market for a new go pro yet by the seven don't don't go find a discontinued six, you know Cool. Yeah, that's awesome. What about rapid fire? You guys have these rapid fires yet? I've got a rapid fire So that's that's the new hot receiver module for uh for fat sharks. Is it better than a serious? It's so it's so good. It's so good. I didn't want to believe it So did you get these from anthony because I've been howling this guy for like almost a year now Um, I know anthony. I don't want to call it. I think he promised him to all of us And then it was a really popular product. They had a couple launch problems. I don't They had power outages during production. I mean, you know, seriously, so should I just buy one or what is that what you guys did or? Uh, I don't talk to anthony again. Maybe maybe you can get one. He I did eventually get one But it came through tommy. So tommy got one from anthony and then Flew it to detroit for me like because he came here. So right I got it that way But um, you know, if you you might just want to buy it or if you you know If you still got access to the sponsored pilots discounts, maybe you can get a discount on that but like dude, it's it's good It's good. Did you did you use the furious before? so I had a furious. I hated the furious. I had really bad luck with it And I know I had a bad one. I had a bad one because I tried Jeff furious I tried zoe's furious and theirs were pretty much fine. My furious got horrible interference from other pilots like totally unflyable So I had bad furious. I reached out to furious to see if they could help me out and They whatever I didn't really get too good of a response. So I'll just leave it at that Um, la forge sent me a free setup when they heard I was having trouble, which I really appreciate And I loved the la forge setup, especially with the v4 because it gave you On-screen display capability in the goggle so I could control everything in the goggles without ever having to look at the outside Screen. I loved that and for that reason I didn't want to switch to rapid fire because rapid fire doesn't have that yet It might but it currently doesn't but anyways, I got my hands on this rapid fire. I'm like, ah, it's so good So good So I should I should definitely uh because I got my ground station stolen out of my car and I feel Like it's one of those things where like I never leave my gear in the car Especially overnight and I'm always like whenever someone loses their shit in their car. I'm just like Good, you know, like fuck. Why are you keeping in your car? You know, sir, right? Yeah, sir, isn't right and it totally fucking backfired on me and then So the guy like my car gets I'm driving a Mercedes People think there's change in it. There's never fucking anything in it, right? And the guy went ramp going through my car and I'm like, oh this idiot just like messed up my Insurance papers and everything closed it up. Didn't think anything of it and totally forgot that my ground station was in the back and Ground station got stolen I'm still so I'm still so upset like I Because the thing is it was a quad diversity with like LeForge type technology. So it It just had like a really good software to it and the thing that I like about it I don't even care about the setup time. I'll do the setup time the thing I like about it is I can point where I need it So like with with two if I have two antennas One's usually clover leaf and one's like the oh shit antenna where like it gets hectic and like let's try to point that way, right? With that thing is like I could give four Directional antennas and I could cover like 180 degrees of space plus whatever was behind me With really good directional antenna capabilities And then I went online even and I'm like, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna take it You know, I've never really spent money on a ground station before I'm just gonna try to find something that's quad diversity And there's nothing out there Like do you guys know of anything that's quad diversity that I can just buy as a package? No, I've never used quad diverse. I've never had a need for quad diversity Immersion's got some stuff. I don't think so I don't so just get a rapid fire Just get a rapid fire, but the rapid fire doesn't have four ports That's the thing I'm talking about. So when the places you guys know the places I fly it They're they're pretty like busy places It's not it's not like a band or anything like that, but If you're in the area you can fly everywhere. So if it's a really dense forest You know, it really takes away um The quality of flying because I'm just fighting through interference, right? Um, try the rapid fire Okay, I think you're gonna like it. It's the the locking is Insane, it's when it locks When it locks, so I was on race band one There was someone on race band two powered on like at my feet like four feet away And when that signal locked in I was flying behind concrete walls and stuff that it was like It's fine. It's crazy. Do you guys have it in the road right store? We do store dot road right dot com Okay, so let's let's get people pointed to that, uh, that road right store and we'll make sure that Uh, we can get some sold but I think I'll go on and order one through the store because I think I have a sponsored Pilots access code or something like that So I'll order one tonight and then I'll sell my my furious to uh to Aaron Or no, wait a minute. He just fucking bought a furious god damn it God damn that doesn't hurt to have a backup. It doesn't hurt to have a backup. Uh, I really like This spectrum products and I'm one of the few, uh I feel like pilot. I'm the only road right pilot that uses spectrum You know, so it's it's uh, not anymore. Are you still using a spectrum controller? Yeah, I still am I still use radios and receivers Hmm So if you had to switch drew what would you switch to? I don't know. I hate them all I don't even like I mean, I hate every radio. I don't even like spectrum. I just hate it the least There's no I'm like User interface is such a hard thing to do You know, like I don't actually like rapid fire. I hate rapid fire, but I hate it so much less and I hate all the other options You're a nihilist or no, what is it? I mean fpv is just such a it's like The user interface of fpv gear just hasn't been like I have this in my pocket This is incredible. This is an amazing work of human interface, you know, like like everything is just so seamless So like I'm spoiled by which one I want everything to work as well as my phone It's just not going to you know, we have stupid joy sticks and analog displays. It's awful, you know, but But it's all all awful Which phone is that? It's the iphone 10s The new one I did a vlog about it and got hate on it Which I'm also bitter about the newest new one Is it worth it? Well, what do you have? Oh, I have uh I it's not even here. It's like a six. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's worth it Wait, is it 10s or xs? I don't think the x stands for 10. Does it? Yeah, it does. Are you sure it's 10s? Yeah, yeah So that's the big that's the big version that came out. No, no, there's there's the 10s and then there's the 10s max So I have the small so it's still it's still a small phone But it's got it's got like edged at like the screen is huge So Okay, so what about the plus was the plus and there's an r as well. That's garbage. That's like a seven eight 720p screen That's bad. Okay, so So I was waiting for the 10x And then when the 10x came out I heard very quickly that they were going to discontinue it and then all of a sudden September comes around and they're releasing these phones and I'm waiting for it. My screen's broken. I'm waiting to get my new phone And they're like, oh, it's a 10x I gained and then I was like, well, what the wow Yeah, that's how they always do it. I have a six s plus But I I'm wondering do you have you felt the big one yet? Yeah, it's big. I just don't like the big one Yeah, it's big I mean I had an eight. I had an eight s plus before and I liked it. It was just too big But I wanted the big screen. So now I have big screen small phone It's nice Okay, I'll go I'll go take a look at it. I I just been so busy with this house Stuff, you know pain lawyers and no nine and and all this stuff Because seven eight nine I'm sorry. I'm sorry that joke was excessive I don't even get it This is it. That's the perfect ending No, no, no, we can't we can't we can't just uh, we're only at the 53 minute mark too. So, uh, the last thing here is is It's coming up very quickly and this thing probably won't even air before it comes out, but Rotorite rampage seven eight nine That was funny Yeah, Rotorite rampage. I don't get it. Why so what happened? Oh my gosh one iPhone Hold on. We have this is important. There is no iphone 9 So no, this isn't this isn't important. I'm telling you this is gonna everyone's gonna Because I did a vlog about I'm bitter about it. If you get no, I'm talking about this because I'm stuck on it now So iphone never made a nine. They went from eight to x which is 10. Okay. That's why my iphone also never made a two Their whole new their whole nomenclature is totally screwed up. Okay, but that is a valid question iPhone iphone 3g iphone 3gs iphone 4 wait, it was We're gonna count so it was iphone then iphone 3g then the iphone 3gs then iphone 4 then the iphone 4s Then the iphone 5 then the iphone 5s then the iphone 6 then iphone 6s Then iphone 7 7s now we've got 11 phones iphone 8 iphone 8s 13 phones and then it went straight to 10 Which is actually their 14th phone Makes no sense. Okay, but Okay, but why was the joke funny because why eight seven what happened to nine and he said seven eight nine Seven eight nine Like like seven like seven eight like the past tense of each. I ate it. Oh because seven eight I didn't make that up. That's not my joke if you never heard that before It now is that some type of like thing that they like to do That's a kid joke. It's just a kid joke that was appropriate and his timing was perfect Listen rampage rampage ramp timing was perfect if I was actually like you know Jesus rampage Rotorite rampage Yes, uh first ever fpv freestyle festival Wait, will this be out before rampage or during or probably not. I hope maddy helps out of it It's a week away. It should it should be it should be out. I mean Jesus We've we've got our editor is going non-stop. Yeah, so Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. I'm I'm super busy with life right now too But I mean it shouldn't take too long to just go through and cut and paste when people stop talking and so Yeah, but we interrupt each other a lot So so what's going on with it? So it was at first it was from what I heard last at least Uh, it was gonna be a competition, but now it's just kind of like a expo. It was never a competition. It's never a competition focused There was going to be And competitions and there still are contests and competition Well, man, I don't know if it's competitions or competition, but the the big competition Is actually being held by zoe. So zoe is holding what she's Any pilot that you know wanted to get excited about this and like Twist an aspect of it to his or her own like all about it So zoe was like, I want to do a freestyle contest. I'm like great get to work And she totally ran with it and you know, we we had to talk to our event organizers and carve out the time and get at this Whatever, but she's she I haven't done the thing on it. She made the the sign-up sheet for people that are there She had someone Contracted to make the these cool light up 3d printed Trophies joe stand in them. They're awesome. Oh, they got a whole format. She got multiple heats going across both days It's great. So it's gonna there is going to be a really cool contest that zoe is doing The subtlety that I think is going to make this so much So great is that The goal from the beginning was not that we have the most people or the biggest prize Or any of that it was that we have the most fun and that was From day one that was our goal was to say let's get a Group of people together. It doesn't have to be the biggest group. It doesn't have to be You know the most extravagant. We just want to make sure That we have the most fun because that's what fpv. That's what freestyle is. It's it's fun It's not because whenever you make it that competition or you know something Where that's the primary focus the fund is the first thing that gets sacrificed So we wanted to make that the core Oh, it's going to be fun. Like this is going to be quite a party. I think and I mean we actually Be limited the number of tickets because if there's too many people, you don't even get to fly you know, so um Yeah, there's it's there's a lot going on. I wish I I wish I could go totally good Can you just come can you just come and kidnap me and just be like we're and and just like pretend like you're not I have since I and then be like surprised ten years old the first time I saw it on tv. I've wanted to use What's the stuff they put on the rag? chlorophyll, yeah, so maddie you've given me enough of an okay that You know chloroform doesn't work right away, right? like you have to have it on the victim for like and Obviously, it's a victim, but you have to have it on the victim two minutes It's not like it's not like it's not like this and then all of a sudden you're out I'm gonna need some help. So movies have kind of lied to you maddie's got some guns on him. Maddie's a big guy, too Yeah I'm not that big I'm not that jacked guys I'm not that strong right now. It's just not that strong Muscles from when I from like kid just from being a kid. All right arm wrestling next time, but um No, I don't arm wrestle anymore. I saw my uncle My uncle garvin arm wrestled my uncle denny and like on that on my dad's side of the family all the guys are pretty big, right? So um, they were going out. It was a heavyweight matchup and nope my uncle denny's Arm broke and I saw a youtube video where the guys arms just broke right in the middle Just oh, yeah, that's It's it's it I'll never forget the popping sound And and like how hysterical my like grandma was like screaming afterwards And uh, so I just never will arm wrestle again The only time I'll arm wrestle maybe is if you're laying down And doing it like the like and native americans do Right, that was like one of their games. So they would lay down and do it and that way you can't You can't when they don't think you can put yourself into a I don't know. I don't know. That's just craziness Hey, I want to tell you guys something too. What I've been doing lately is I've actually been flying um For anyone that's not watching the youtube one. I've been flying 3d planes lately and it's kind of like You know that south park episode when stan is playing guitar hero and he needs like the heroine And it's just like that. Where's this going? Where he has to chase where he has to chase the dragon That's that's the chasing the dragon for me in like the fpv world. So it's just they're really easy to maintain um You can crash them a lot and and wait are you talking like a profile 3d planes? The oh those are so yeah profile. I also have I also have another which one do you have to for 3d flying but I'll have a katana a tech one and then I have Uh, uh, is that hobby hobby king? Is that where you got him? No, I got him for motion. I see I don't know if hobby king still sells. I want to see I want to see the I You know what? I think that that industry is like going under because They don't make they don't make new planes anymore really. I I said I that I can see at least Because what happened was I went to the air show in august Uh mid august was the air show by the the next weekend. I had a I It ducted fan f18 that I wanted to fly because I wanted to like simulate being a fighter pilot and um Took it up crashed it first time went home hot glued it crash it again Can't get this freaking thing to fly but anyways, I was like, uh, I'm having fun with this So maybe I'll get a a profile plane too with to fly. You can't launch them too steep That's probably what what you're doing if you try to launch an edf too steep But you'll you'll biff it pretty quickly Well, no, it's it wasn't that I just had I haven't been flying um I haven't been flying line of sight for the longest time and uh, and um anyways The these I've never flown uh air ducted or a ducted fan jet before And they're just it just flies a little weird anyways. I got it flying And then what happened was I got it flying and I hit the switch for my flaps And it just like my flaps were at like 60 degrees and the thing ballooned Yeah, and just start and yeah it ballooned and and then I was panicking and I was trying to hit the switch for the flaps But I was hitting the switch for the landing gear and so and I like Pumped it into a tree and like exploded it and now it's like Anyways, I'm gonna I'm gonna buy another one. I'll buy the f16 now that I have this thing flying properly But I've been having fun with it. It's I know skit. So he flies 3d. He's pretty good at it Yeah, but um, it's really good. I'm getting pretty I'm getting pretty good at it. I can like do Harrier rolls now. I can have a grind with it like torque rolls Uh, I did hit a I did hit a soccer post and it seemed like it grinded I'm really excited to see the next video. I'm Eddie. I want to see this grinding thing. It was like a bonk Well, not even that it literally like the the trick list that I have on my phone now for the next edit is Is pretty spectacular. I really I mean I really like your approach to doing video like I'm way more organic I just want to like Get in my mood and just go to a cool spot and do my things and like I have tricks in the back of my mind Like there's always a few things I'm working on that like, you know, I hold off to release like no I haven't quite gotten that but like you seem to really like Got your bullet points. I'm gonna knock each one off. You got your hit list and you want to Like it's it's it's a very different approach I I do do that with some edits, but I do like doing uh, like organic flights as well So I'll usually in my edits. I'll usually put like some tricks where it's like Hammer trick hammer trick hammer trick and then it'll be like a 30 second line of like hammer tricks and floatiness and and It won't just be like hammer trick hammer trick hammer trick and And that's it. Um but yeah, uh If I don't do this, I forget what I was going to do. Yeah, I'll go out and I'll totally forget it I have to like consciously look at the trick and be like, oh, yeah, okay. I need to do this Where am I going to do it here? I'm like, okay. I'm going to do that and then it's kind of probably lambing this little area So then I'll go into this and for the next trick, you know, I mean, so um But the contact tricks that that's really cool like they grind it because of the clip I saw you got on to it and got off it really smooth and that was always I never really like wall bonks too much because they're always like like really jarring in the camera shakes Yes, I've been really into skids lately. So when I've got smooth ground I'll try to really as gently as possible put the quad down skid and then I really like doing Um, like a yaw spin. So I'll be skidding and I'll do a 360 yaw spin Then keep the skid going and take off again And I think I I'm pretty good at coming down and taking off smooth Um, I can't do the rail thing. I can't do that rail thing at all You can you can do a lot of stuff with the rail thing, but I'll tell you this much if there's any little bit of like usually a rail is Is is straight and then it has a post like this, right? And usually it's a little bit rough where this post is it's it because they have to skateboarding Yeah, yeah, so that little bit of like you don't really notice it when you're skateboarding b-maxing or or Um Rollblader or whatever and you're in your grind the rail, but on the drone you can totally see the like So I found that I have to have like a really powerful ND filter to make it motion blur and it kind of takes it out um Still a downhand rail is still very challenging It's almost easier to do like a semi down rail or a flat rail that goes into a down rail but I mean there's like so many more tricks like I have to literally go and revisit every single place that I've ever flown To to to see if there's like a rail there where I can like throw it into a line now You know what I mean? Like I'm trying to think of like every place because you you go to these places And I remember when I was a kid I would look for those things I would look for the rail But now we don't look for those things because it's a totally we're totally looking at like the flying awareness And like what we could do for the tricks So now it's like every every spot that I go to I'm like, oh, yeah, is there a rail here? And I'm looking for the rail now um but uh It's definitely going to open it up to There's so many things like you can you can do a rail You can you can power loop a final rail where there's an object Do the rail power loop get back onto the rail you can get onto the rail You can do a hop up front flip and then you know get back up down on the rail All right, yeah, you're hyping it up so much now. I just want to see it. I don't want to hear you talk about it Yeah, I get I get excited, but I am excited I'm glad that I talked to Drew the other day because I'm I'm ready to go again. So But that being said, let's uh, let's wrap this up. Is there anything else you guys want to You know, just if uh, if this comes out before rampage, I hope to see a bunch of you guys there It's it's going to be a sweet party. We've got a music stage with multiple uh bands lined up multiple djs. Tommy is Aka a dj. Oh my god is headlining one night, which is going to be awesome. Uh, we've got a beer garden for after flying. We've got Uh multiple flying areas. We've got an indoor led nano track that, um Newbie drone is going to be just going over the top with Uh, what else what else what else or so is there camp ground majority of camping we had actually that was one of the challenges is the hotels filled up because of a um Of a construction project In the area. So all the hotels are filled with construction workers. So Yeah, yeah, I know. No, we thought we you know actually picked this location early enough in advance that we could book up the hotels, but Yeah, uh, so there's there's gonna be a lot of camping actually rvs are surprisingly cheap So you can get an rv and just you know Still have like a proper bed and stuff. So that's what that's that's what i'm gonna be sleeping in I'll be I would totally need that hotel room though I would I would totally need that hotel room I'm kind of a princess when it comes to like camping and stuff Cool guys. Okay. Well, listen. Hey, it was uh, it was great catching up Uh, hope to do this soon again. We'll try to have a a guest a guest appearance or a guest, uh To come on for the next one. Um, this was kind of like, hey, are you guys available? Yeah, right before Rampage were available. So now give me like a week and we'll we'll get someone going and uh, as always we Talk about the new quad camp online, but he's like I said, he's doing it So if you guys do anyone listening wants to learn more about quad camp online, just go to quadcamp.com The basic premise is we've got yeah kwadcamp.com Um, we've got live twitch streams that are that's of course free to the public So anyone can tune in And then during those twitch streams, uh, the the host whoever's on like tonight, it's kevin I did it one the other night whatever, um, can interact with the you know, the paying campers one on one Via a discord server. So actually voice chat. So, you know, if you're if you're, you know paying member Then you can come in there. We can troubleshoot whatever problems you have or walk you through answer questions. Um, Do tutorials in the simulator. Um, my series has been on 3d printing. So I'm like modeling stuff live and uh, talking about, you know, how the thing I'm the thing I'm making in CAD is going to print out kevin has been doing a part 107 course So he's in there answering questions and quizzing people on part 107 training like it's pretty cool and and Like I said, you can totally take advantage of it. Uh, for free You can still tune into the the twitch sessions and there's a lot of areas of the discord server that are For free. So there's a lot that you just, you know, you don't have to pay but if you do, there's bonuses you get I would love to do a trick tutorial with you guys. Talk to kevin. We'll get you on the schedule If you can stream lift off if you can stream lift off We just have to figure out the logistics of um, of how How that would work, but I would love to do that. I I love teaching people. Um, especially the stuff that I do I love, uh, getting in out there and people would love that letting someone enjoy those doing those tricks Yeah, let's get you set up for let's talk about that more are you available? I don't want to steam roll kevin's kevin does all the schedule. I just got really excited. I'm like, I'll just schedule No, we'll talk to kevin. We'll get you on because that'd be great. I'll throw it I'll throw it into the road right chat when I get off the uh, when we get off the podcast here, but um Thanks everyone for joining in we really appreciate the support and uh, we'll see you soon