 Super! Can you do that? Super! Tea's ready. Hey, welcome back to our Stupid Drags since you did some Corbin. I'm Rick. Sorry, I forgot to turn the volume on. Oh well, apologize about that. That's our first silent intro. No, we've done it. That long. It was a long silence. That's what she said. Today, I think this is like a little bit of an interview-ish style thingy. Okay. It's called Rare Moment with Legends, Amatak Bakcan, Raj Nakan, Superstar Raj Nakan, and Kamal Khasan. And this is about Rajasar. Oh! So apparently all these guys got together and they're talking about Rajasar. During the Shamatab Music launch in 2015, the celebrations in Mumbai were doubled by honouring Maishro Rajasar for his 1000th movie film composition. It was a rare and memorable moment to watch the three legends of Indian movie industry sharing their experiences about Rajasar on a podium together. Shamatab was actually the one with Amatak Bakcan and Dhanush, I believe. Remember that one? Yes. Yeah. I remember that one. This is like them, I guess, talking about, obviously all of them, I believe, had experiences with him and talking about him. Cool. But I've never seen it. No. We've said recently how much we want to learn more about him. Yeah. So this is great. And also to see all three of them together. Yeah. Deja vu. Whoa. Twice. Is Raj Nakan the bald? Yeah. You didn't know that? See where's the toupee? All right. Where's the wig? Yeah. He's 70. Yeah. I didn't know that, though. He's a good toupee. How old is Rajasar now? This is another opportunity for me. Rajasaric novel and myself, perhaps, many of you are not aware. We work together in one film and that's the first and only time we were together in a film called Gifthar. And here we are on stage. And we are ready to be able to talk to these two great legends about another great legend who is amongst us today and in whose name we pay tribute today. Ilay Rajasar. Rajni, you've worked with Rajasar in many films. Rajasar. What is it that you find special about him? What about his music? What about his nature? Tell us something about him. I know Rajasar. Rajasar is very naughty. Really, I'm telling you. And very mischievous. He used to gossip a lot. He used to, I mean, to be frank with you. We had a dream still morning. What's the car this morning? All that. And suddenly one transformation actually took place. I saw Rajasar completely changed even his dressing and everything. When I saw him, I never felt like calling him Rajasar. I called him Swami. Swami means saint. Even now, till then, I'm calling only Rajasami, Rajasami. His real saint, that Narada Saraswati, is there with him and in him. I'd like you to say something about you, Rajasar. Mr. Raja has become part of my life. Out of this 1,000, about 10% belongs to me. I say belongs to me. He created it, but we own it up so much. Actually, may I just interrupt? Many of you don't know, but I think that between the two of them, Rajini and Kamal, I think you've both done about 100 films each. Must with Indra Rajasar. 100 films each. With? With Indra Rajasar. We're still counting, so we're not talking about that. Most people haven't done 100,000. As he said, I was about to say, he's told my story because it's his story too. But I have done all that. He claims to have done that with Mr. Raja. I used to call him Mr. Raja, then after that, after the transformation, he was talking about he became my brother. I never called him that. And today I had the opportunity of hugging him, which I have never done. He's a bit finicky and a shy man. But today I took the opportunity to hug him. I had a long overdue after nearly 35, 40 years. I always wanted to do it to him and I did it today. And I knew that he would go to this 1000. 786th film was mine and I told him soon, 1000. And it is that day today. Fantastic. Thousand. Between the two of you, as I said just now, you've taken Rajasar away for almost 200 films. Is that what you think? What are the reasons why Rajasar couldn't come to the Hindi film industry to give us music? Because he was so busy making music where you are. He's never done a Hindi film? Actually, as Rajasar told, actually he's... So it's all Tamil to Lugu. He left everything to God's hand. He completely surrendered to Almaty. So that it was his mistake, Almaty's mistake. He couldn't try to move on before. Do you want some math? Raji, to connect with that, I just want to say that there is a certain kind of divinity. That's 20 films a year for 50 years. Something very divine, something godly. That's two films a month for 50 years. If you've been to a music room, if you've been to a house... That's about two weeks for 50 years. I'm sure that both of you have also. That's a lot. There is a peculiar divine atmosphere. Actually, you two have been very close to divinity. Are there any similarities that you find between yourself and Rajasar? Holy cow! In that respect. So maybe, Mamiji, I don't know, after seeing all the worldly things, after enjoying it, after seeing that, okay, this is it. So we aspire for the bigger thing, higher thing. Probably that is the case. Even the Rajas case also probably. Kamal, you've sung for Rajasar. Yes, that's his most fortunate. He's not all the time fortunate. And you've never had an opportunity to sing with Rajasar? No. Only once, actually, just four lines. Further, actually, it took eight of us. Tell us something about your singing experience with Rajasar. See, it's very difficult. He's been a friend, he's been a brother, but the truth is also my guru. In film singing, I thought I knew singing till I met Rajya. To sing for the mic, to correct yourself, I learned little, little tricks, which makes me look like I'm a master when I go to other people. I watched about a hundred re-recordings, a background scoring, whenever I'm shooting, I used to go to those background scoring sessions. And that's helping me now as a director, because I sound like a music director, which I'm not. But thanks to Rajya. There are some other details of Rajasar which perhaps many in the audience are not aware of. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe for four years continuously, 52 weeks, 56 films Rajasar has given music for, continuously for four years. And that includes background music as well. And many of those films have all been great box office successes. How? This is a great achievement. That's kind of out to what I can't comprehend. And that's common, like all these legends, all have this like massive number that I can't comprehend. What you did with one of your films, music... How do you have time to do anything? Yes, I'm glad you brought this up. I've been waiting for nearly 15 years, because of that man, he said, don't talk about it. That's his good quality. We have the liberty to talk today. Today it's my stage, our stage. I had gone to somebody else to do the music. That's the first time I've used in Raj Kamal films, my company, another music director. Something went wrong and I had a problem. I had shot all the songs, but I was not able to use it in the film. So sheepishly I went back to Mr. Raja and said I made a mistake. So he helped me out. So he was looking at me and he said, how much did it cost for you to shoot all the songs? Is that what you're going to ask of me? No, tell me. I said, I'm going to reshoot it, so don't trouble me now. And he said, no, you're not going to reshoot it. I'm going to dub it for you. I said, no, I won't hit songs. I'll give it to you. And I've never heard of this. It's a textbook kind of work for any music director. The song was recorded. He saw the lip-sync like a dubbing film. He started making music, which was totally different. The song I recorded and shot was different. And he made hip songs of them. I've seen people in circus, walking on wire and throwing tea cups onto their head and balancing. That kind of a balancing act with fantastic music. Off of what they were doing. I think that many that are not aware of how films are made, I just want to repeat what Kamal has just said. Kamal went to a music director, recorded songs, went to a location, shot those songs, and then decided that perhaps he was not happy with it. He went to Rajasar and said, this is the music, I want to change it. Rajasar said, don't change anything. I will change what you have shot. So he looked at the ethically- It's like turning the sound off and writing something to match what you see. Looking at the lip-sync of the artists that have been shot, Rajasar composed fresh music. I want to see it. Which synced with the already shot portion. And everything became super happy. That's an incredible feat. I've never heard of this thing before. No, neither have I. It doesn't happen. No music directors would be like, oh yeah, okay. No. If you went around my music, if you match a song to the visuals, they'd go, are you nuts? I haven't registered that. I know you've described many personal insults to Rajasar. Maybe it's not twice to repeat them now. But... Were there any moments when you felt that, when you're sitting in a composition that he has made, that you've disagreed with? Or you felt that maybe you wanted something else? Nice question, big break. No, I mean I never interfered with the music. Actually, that was not my field. I never entered into it. I used to let everything to him. What about you? I thought I was interfering, but I was only learning. We used to say the silliest things and he would say, tell me what you want and I'll give it to you. And it's always been that. And I learned a lot. And by arguing with him, I learned. So, that's my only learning technique of saying something knowingfully well that he's right. But I'd say, how about this? And he'd say, why that is not right? And that's how I learned. I had a very small, similar experience with Rajasar. I have never dared to sing in front of him because I found that very embarrassing. And every time a song was composed, I would ask him to send the produce somewhere else. Nadeesh Srivastava was here. We used to sit in the studio separately and record it. But there was one occasion in Paa when I had to sing a song with Rajasar in front of me. And I cannot tell you how frightening that was because you're looking at a genius who stands there and catches every little moment and wants to correct it. And even though it was a little kid singing with some kind of prosthetics on his face, it was amazing how he corrected each and every little line that I was singing. Thank you so much, Rajasar, for that input. And thank you for giving me this opportunity to have stood in the same room as you and perform in front of you. Thank you. Thank you so much, Kamal. And thank you so much, Rajni. That was cool. As you'll never heard of it, probably never hear of it again. Okay, so there's multiple crazy things that were said in there. The fact that one he's done a thousand, I don't know if he's still alive, but that's insane. I don't know if, like, John Williams has done a thousand films. Can I almost guarantee he hasn't? He might have done a thousand songs. How many films has John Williams scored? Was it a thousand songs or a thousand films? A thousand films. He'll give you his albums. Because... I don't think it's a thousand films. Because Hollywood does not produce that amount of content. That fast. Nor do I think most artists want to. Do you have any films? Usually it's four in a year with a lot. Big, big mountain decline. What Akshay does now would be considered oversaturation here in Hollywood. His management would be telling him, People are seeing you too much. Let them want you. And that kind of stuff. So to put out that amount of quantity of stuff, and I'm sure most of it being really high quality stuff, is insane. And then also to take a song with visuals already shot, and make an entirely new song just based off of the visuals, is insane. That is... That does not happen. Ever. No. I've never heard of it. Like Big B said, I've never heard of it. I'd like to see it. Yeah. I'd like to see the end result. I'd like to see the beginning. I don't know if that's ever been released. Like the original version. And then what was... Because I would like to see how much of a transformation he made. That would be cool. I'd love to react to something and then find out afterwards that was one of those songs. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? And have not picked up on the fact that that was one of those songs. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be cool. Wow. Well, the man's impressive. Yeah. So... Understand the respect and the level of adoration. I'm sorry it took us as long as it has now. Yeah, sorry. Realize he's at the level, if not above, I remember him on like in terms of prestige. Because the dude's impressive. And let us know more from him that we should react to down. But now... You're a mother to me.