 Okay, good morning and welcome everyone to BC 309, our course on Urban Church Blunting. You know, welcome everybody, I see your comments in the chat and Charles, I see your request for prayer for your father. And okay, just let's remember to do that before we, or rather let's pray right now at the beginning of the class because we usually pray. So could somebody lead us in prayer and then also include to pray for Charles' father? Charles, I forget now what was wrong with your dad. Okay. All right, let's pray. Somebody could lead us in prayer and just speak healing for Charles' father as well. Can you lead and pray for the class, please? Go ahead. Thank you so much for everything that you're doing in your life, and thank you so much for everybody who helped our lives. God, and thank you Lord. As we're about to learn you, for us, which are based on an understanding that they will make us stronger in learning about the Urban Church and what you have to see, how do you lift up Charles' land into your hand, and that is what we shall be called. And we declare your word to the Charles' child which is Jesus' name. Lord, we pray strength in his body, and he will rise up from the single light and we declare by faith that he is healed, restored, and strengthened God. Thank you so much for healing in your life. And as Charles is declared right now that every existence that's causing him to be redecorred he will be done it on the cross Okay, thank you for leading us in prayer. Amen and a lot less chances dead and make them whole in Jesus name. All right so we have been talking about in urban church planning and of course on urban church planning we've been talking about the spiritual side of things and we were just kind of laying the groundwork groundwork to get into talking about engaging in spiritual warfare and prayer and intercession and exercising spiritual authority for people in the area where we are planting a church or pioneering a church or the region that we feel God has called us to now reach out to. So I'm just going to quickly review some of the things we covered last week and then we will move forward from there, right? We'll share the notes in the PDF notes and let's go from there. All right, so praying and exercising authority for spiritual transformation we can you know we don't control people's choices but we can pray and we can make it easy for them to make a decision towards following Christ. So we do do that to pray and spiritual warfare and then we saw right how do we pray for the loss? What do we see in scripture? So we can pray and ask God to give a region or city as an inheritance. We invite the Holy Spirit to bring about conviction. We ask the Lord to draw them, pull upon their hearts so that they come to a place of repentance. God will grant them repentance. It's the Holy Spirit enlightens them to open the spiritual eyes. We pray for God to send more labors in, to minister and we pray for the demonstration of science and miracles. So these are things we can pray in the context of seeing people come to faith in Christ and this is an ongoing thing. We continue to pray over that region, over that people. As part of our engagement, spiritual engagement, we also have to engage in warfare but we said okay before we get in to start doing warfare, be established in certain truth. Number one, be established that Satan has been defeated. So we are actually walking in what Christ has already accomplished for us. We have complete authority and dominion of the enemy and we're here to enforce what Christ has obtained for us and we are protected on every side. So there can be, there's no need for any fear against the enemy and then words are important for us that when we speak words we actually bind the enemy. Then we started talking about exercising spiritual authority and I think if I remember now there was a question last week from Christopher which we didn't answer fully and so we need to get into that. Somebody raised her hand or something? Yeah, actually that was me first. I just wanted to ask the questions. Okay, okay, yeah, great. So yeah, so the question that Christopher asked was you know, we as believers, we understand what Christ did on the cross, right? That like we said on the cross Jesus crushed the head of the serpent. He disarmed the enemy. He expelled Satan. He passed judgment. The judgment was already passed so that means Satan has been judged, condemned. He disarmed the enemy. He rendered the enemy powerless or he defeated the enemy. So as believers based on the word of God, we say this is what Christ has already accomplished but the big question is why does it seem like the enemy is still so powerful. He's still doing things around both against believers as well as in the world in general. How do we explain that to somebody who doesn't necessarily have the same kind of understanding that we have? So that's the question we were trying to explain and then Tharon shared with us a link to a two-part sermon series that we did sometime back. It's called Satan You've Been Defeated. So you can go to our church website and search that Satan has defeated something and part one, part two. But let me just try to summarize some thoughts on those lines. One is when Adam and Eve sinned, the authority they had on the earth was transferred to Satan because they willingly brought themselves in subjection to Satan. Whomever we obey, to them we become slaves. Roman 6 tells us so they chose to obey Satan. They became slaves to Satan. Satan got the authority of this world. That's why in the New Testament you find he's referred to as the God of this world, the prince of the power of the air. So he's referred to with those terms are the prince of this world. Jesus calls him the prince of this world John 12. So rightfully authority on this planet was given to the devil. See he's got good control. Now Jesus came representing the human race and he overthrew the devil. He did all this. He crushed the head of the serpent. He destroyed the enemy and then he but now that his victory has to become effective in the lives of people. I mean people have got to be able to walk in that victory. But the conditioners just as Adam and Eve submitted themselves to the devil, people have to make the choice to come out of submission to the devil and submit themselves to Christ. So that's a choice. God cannot make for people. People have to do it, each individual. But whichever individual makes the choice to come out of submission to the devil and into submission to Christ, then that individual can then begin to access what Christ has completed for us. So if you want to look at it like this, the Bible refers to Adam, first Adam, Christ, the last Adam. First Adam, first man, Christ, the second man. This is in 1 Corinthians chapter 15. So we are all by default in the first Adam or the first man and in the first Adam or the first man, we automatically inherit whatever comes under him, which is subjection to sin, Satan and death. But the last Adam, the second man, Jesus Christ came. And so I'm starting a new race of people who ever wants to be a part of this race, they can, but they have to come through Christ. They have to submit themselves to Christ through faith in Christ. So that is an individual's choice. But when we make that choice, then we come in subsection to Christ. We submit ourselves to Christ and then we submit ourselves to Christ and then we in Christ have mastery over Satan and over all his works. So there are two things. One is we have to come in submission to Christ. And secondly, we have to walk in the revelation of what Christ has done for us. Otherwise, what happens is there are people who may come in submission to Christ, but they don't walk in the revelation. They don't receive the revelation. They don't walk in it. They will still be struggling as though they were part of the first man or first Adam. And those who don't make the transition, obviously, they'll be struggling as under the first Adam, the first man. That means the devil continues to work against them. So as far as they are concerned, the devil is still very powerful because he's still Lord and he still has control over their lives. And when we come into Christ, when we come into the second man or the last Adam, the devil still tries to keep these people in ignorance. He still tries to deceive them. He still tries to. So that's a tactic. What is a tactic? Either keep them in ignorance or keep them in deception. So tries to keep them ignorant or tries to tell them the Bible is not really what it says. So that's deception. Trying to get them away from believing the truth. And so even believers, if they are in ignorance or they are in deception, they still can't live in a place of dominion and authority over the enemy. So then you still see the struggle. So even in those cases, it seems like the devil is still very powerful when actually he is a defeated enemy. It's just that the believers don't know it or they've been told that it's not true. So that's why the enemy still seems powerful. Is that okay, Christopher? Does that explain what you were looking for, the question you had? Yes, Pastor. I mean, I think it explains it. I guess maybe just to sort of I guess ask a related question when we talk about, when we even refer to, for example, you know, when Peter mentioned, I think in verse five, I can't remember the actual verse, but when you talk about being so vigilant because your adversary, the devil walks like a rolling line seeking who, whom he may devour. Does this, I mean, does this relate to you know, people who are who are doing both things as submitting as well as walking in the revelation? Or is it more for, you know, people who are sort of in the middle or, you know, who are not, who are not submitted? Because I mean, I guess what I'm coming for is is it, is it, is it not a constant, in a sense, threat, which, which, which, you know, we live, we live in, even though we have, you know, we have done both those two, those two things that you just mentioned. I understand. Correct. So, you know, so we find scriptures, like what you refer to 1 Peter 5, 8 and 9, Ephesians 4, 27, where the Bible is telling us as believers, you know, we have submitted to Christ and we also have the revelation. So he's talking to all believers, all believers. We must continually be vigilant against the enemy because the enemy is going to try to get any point of entry into the life of the believer. So to answer your question, yes, all believers, even after we submit to Christ and even after we understand, receive the understanding of Christ's victory on the cross, we have to stay vigilant. We have to stay alert and give no place to the devil, not give no access to the devil. So for the entirety of our life here on earth, that's how we live, not because the devil is so great, but because he is looking for opportunities to come in and trip us up. And he, his tactics are very simple. His tactics are to either keep somebody in ignorance or to deceive or to intimidate. It's basically things related to the mind, primarily trying to, you know, to stir believers in the area of the mind through lies and deception and so on. Okay. All right. So let's pick up from where we paused last week. We were talking about, you know, exercising authority to open prison doors. So one side we are doing our praying, which we must do according to the scriptures. But in addition to our prayer and intercession, we also need to exercise spiritual authority. This authority is over. We're talking about these evil powers, Satan and his demons. And how do we go about doing that? So the first thing we were talking about last week was we establish God's presence through praise and worship. And so through our praise, through our exaltation of God, it is our praise is having an effect of dethroning or of destabilizing demonic powers. So we saw in scripture in Assam 22 S3, it says that God is enthroned in the praises of his people. So as we praise God, God is enthroned. We are, we are saying, we are in effect establishing his kingdom rule and his kingdom is dominion in that region as we praise and worship God. We saw from 1 Samuel 5, 1-4, and I just, you know, describe this incident where the Ark of the Tabernacle was taken by the Philistines into the temple of their God, Dagon. When it was placed there, Dagon fell on his face. The statue of Dagon was down on his face. They put it back up and then it was broken into two and they realized this is how powerful the presence of God is. The Ark of the Covenant was a symbol of the presence of God. But it's also very, you know, it's depicting something very powerful for us, how the presence of God displaces the presence of demonic powers. And we established that through our praise, our worship. In Psalm 149 verses 6-9, it's very interesting. If we read that, we learned that through our praise, we're actually binding the powers of darkness. Now it talks in Psalm 149. It says, through the high praises of God, we as believers, as God's people, we have a two-edged sword in our hand and we're executing vengeance on the nations. Now, this is obviously not literal. Our praise to God is like us walking with a double-edged sword and executing vengeance on the nations. So it's not literal. It's like, no, you're not literally going around with a physical sword in your hand and binding up the kings in chains. No, it's the effect of our praise. It is the effect of us glorifying God. It's spiritually equivalent to this. That is, we are executing vengeance and on executing the written judgment on our spiritual adversaries. So our praise to God is causing this effect on our spiritual adversaries. And in Psalm, sorry, in Isaiah 19 and verse 1, we see the effect of the presence of God. It says that when God writes Isaiah 19-1, the idols of Egypt will torture or shake at the presence of God. So, bearable God's presence is the powers of darkness shake. So that's our first step in exercising spiritual authority, is we establish God's presence through praise and worship. And we must be confident that as we are praising God, as we are worshiping God, this is the effect of our praise and worship over the spiritual atmosphere where we are. This is the effect of our praise and worship on our spiritual adversaries. This is what is happening. Secondly, we proclaim, we declare Christ's finished work on the cross for the salvation of souls. If you go to Isaiah 52, and somebody could read that, Isaiah 52, and could somebody read verse 15, please? Isaiah 52 verse 15. Somebody could read that? 15. So shall he sprinkle many nations, the things shall shut their mouths at him, for that which he had not been told them shall they see, and that which they have not heard shall they consider. Okay, thank you. Look at the first part of that verse, verse 15. So shall he, now this is obviously talking about Christ and his work on the cross, so shall he sprinkle many nations. The word sprinkle really is referring to the sprinkling of the blood. So, you know, verse 14 talks about, you know, when Christ was crucified, his appearance was so marred and nobody could recognize him. And in that context, verse 15 is there, he will sprinkle many nations. That means, as is foretelling, that through his death the blood of Christ will be sprinkled for and upon many nations, the sprinkling of the blood. So think about this. The blood of Christ has been sprinkled upon the nations. So when you think about your nation, or you can think about your city, or your region, or your nation. According to Isaiah 52 verse 15, Christ's blood has been sprinkled over your nation, or your people, your city. He will so shall he sprinkle many nations. That means the blood of Christ has been made available for everybody. And what we are going to do is to enforce that. We declare that the blood of Jesus Christ has been sprinkled, has been made available for the city, or the region that we have people in the city, or people in the region that we are praying for. And we want the blood of Christ to wail in their lives. We say, we announce to Satan, Satan, Christ has already shed his blood for the people in my city, for the people in this region, the people in this nation. And so we are declaring that salvation has been made available for them. We are declaring that forgiveness of sins has been made available for them. And it's not that we are making a decision for them. We can't do that. They have to make the decision. But we are saying, we are here to enforce the power of the shed blood of Christ for them in order for them to receive forgiveness of sins, in order for them to experience their redemption, in order for them to experience every provision that comes through the cross of Christ. So we are announcing, we know that the blood of Christ has been sprinkled for these people. It's like saying, the prison doors have been opened. Of course, the prison has to come out, but the prison doors have been open. We are announcing the doors are open and people can be released. The third aspect of our spiritual warfare, so one is we are making that proclamation on the basis of Christ's finished work on the cross. Thirdly, we take authority over what the powers of darkness are doing in that region. And so we deal with those things. Now again, we use our words in the authority of Jesus' name. So we can, as we are declaring, we dislodge those strongholds in the minds of people. So whatever we find, we can deal with that and say we take authority over these things in the minds of people. We take authority over these thoughts, these arguments, these reasonings, and we pull it down. The basis for that, second Corinthians chapter four, let's go there. Sorry, second Corinthians chapter ten, verse four through six, second Corinthians ten versus four, let's read verse three to six, second Corinthians ten, three to six, and we can read that for us, please. So though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh, for the weapons of our warfare are not of flesh, but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments in every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God and take every thought captive to obey Christ, being ready to punish every disobedience when your obedience is complete. Amen. So Paul is telling us that we're engaged in spiritual warfare, so we're not fighting in the flesh. That's verse three. He's telling us verse four, that we are using spiritual weapons, weapons that are mighty through God. That means these are very powerful weapons. And then he tells us what are we doing with these weapons? And you'll find here that the context is things in the mind because he's talking about arguments He's talking about reasonings that go against the knowledge of God. He's talking about every thought. So he's talking about arguments, reasonings, or imaginations. And he's talking about thought. And in that context, he also uses the word strongholds, verse four. So the word strongholds of verse four has to be interpreted in the context of arguments, reasonings, and thought in verse five. So what do we do with the weapons that God has given to us, the spiritual weapons? Well, we are dealing with things in the minds of people. So we're not talking about air castles and the castles in the air or somewhere in the atmosphere. No, we're dealing with things that the enemy has done in the minds of people in order to prevent them from making a decision for Christ. And he says the weapons God has given to us will pull these things down so that their minds can be clear to receive the light of the gospel of Christ. So that's what we do. So how do we exercise our authority by the words we speak? So in the name of Jesus, if we speak those words that announce the pulling down of strongholds, the casting down of arguments, the casting down of reasonings and imaginations, they're taking every thought captive. So we announce that in the name of Jesus. And it's basically tearing down Satan's blindness so that when the gospel is proclaimed, the gospel is brought to these people, they will be able to receive it. So that also has to happen and we will talk about that. The fourth way we exercise spiritual authority is to destroy the works of evil spirits that are specifically in at work. So these are things that are happening behind activities that are prevalent among the people. So whatever we see, so you may identify examples, I'm just giving examples here, you may identify prostitution or corruption or murder or et cetera, other things, activities that are happening. But those activities are demonically energized. There are spirits of disobedience that are causing those acts of disobedience. So we deal with those demonic spirits, we bind or we disallow their activity in the name of Jesus Christ. So yeah, four of these. So here are four ways by which we exercise spiritual authority. One is just praising and worshiping God. Two is announcing that the blood has been sprinkled for every nation. Three is we, through our words and exercise of spiritual authority, we pull down what's going on in the minds of people. And fourth, through the exercise of our authority, we deal with what evil spirits are doing amongst the people and which is visible through the activities that is prevalent, the wrong activities that is prevalent among the people. Okay, so there is prayer based on the word of God and there is the exercise of spiritual authority. All engage, all in order to affect the spiritual environment so that people can then hear the gospel and make a decision to follow Christ, to encounter Jesus Christ. So while that is going on, we need to continue the proclamation of the gospel. So before we get into the next chapter, let me pause and see if there are any questions. Any questions so far? Everybody's with me. All right, Christopher, please go ahead. Yeah, Christopher, we can ask you a question. Yes, Pastor, to your point, with regards to addressing Satan's influence in cities, I guess a high level question around the predominance of other religions in cities. Would you say that from the early days of Christianity, where there were other religions or other ways of practicing religion, to where Christianity sort of fits in percentages to other religions, would you say that the predominance of those religions are really the work of Satan and in relation to why Christianity is relatively low in a lot of countries? I'm not sure if I clearly sort of explained that. Yeah, so I'll just point us to 1 Timothy chapter 4 was one. 1 Timothy chapter 4 was one where the Bible talks about deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. So that means there are spirits, demonic powers that deceive and that teach. There are doctrines of demons or teachings, philosophies, ideas, ideologies. So there is deception and there is doctrine. And both of these, doctrine, I'm saying they're not talking about the doctrine of the Word of God, but other kinds of doctrine, which are demonically energized. So the answer to your question is yes, that in regions where we find all kinds of maybe religions, it could be even practices, you know, right from animism to all kinds of things, you know, that are prevalent among maybe a culture, a group, a community, a village, a town, a city, a nation. What do we know? Well, deception and doctrines, demonically energized. So while that is prevalent and maybe deep seated, the powers behind it are demonic. So then the question is, is there ever a possibility that this can be dislodged at such a wide scale? The answer to that question is yes, because we do find in Scripture, I'm just looking at Acts chapter 16 and also Acts chapter 19, both these as examples. And in Acts chapter 16, it's a city called Philippi. In Acts chapter 19, it's a city called Ephesius, where to a large extent, what happened was, at that time, at that time, in Philippi, the people were controlled by a demonic expression through a woman who was a fortune teller. In Ephesius, the people were controlled by a goddess Diana. And in both these, so I'm just giving an example, but there was a dominating, prevailing part, or doctrine, or if you want to say religion or influence in these cities. But when the gospel came, that was dislodged. So is it possible for something like that to happen again today? Answer is yes. Is it possible for communities or cities or maybe even nations to be transformed? The answer is yes. And we the church must journey into it. We the church must pray into it, exercise authority towards it. And then what we're going to look in chapter 19, which is proclaim the gospel. So there is prayer, there's exercise of authority, and then there's a proclamation of the gospel. All three should happen in order to see a spiritual transformation. Okay. Good. Any other questions? Sorry. Okay. So let's move forward now. We'll start off the next chapter 19. So part of our, sorry, Kennedy. Kennedy, please go ahead with your question. Hello, am I audible? Yes, Kennedy, we can hear you. I thank God I'm in bed, I'm sick, but I'm listening. Okay. I was just, yeah, I was inquiring how do you deal with these traders who engage in black magic? Like we go to a shop, we get things are hung, but you have to buy something from them. How do you deal with that or how do you handle that? Okay. Okay. So the question is, how do we deal with, in this case, black magic, people who practice black magic and so on? So I think, you know, if you look, if you want to look, start off with a biblical example, one would be Acts chapter eight. Another example would be Acts chapter 13. And a third example would be Acts 19, which we referenced a little earlier. You know, and I'll just mention these things and then, you know, we will see how to apply that today. Acts chapter eight, we see Philip go into the city of Samaria. And at that time, the entire city, and of course, the cities and Bible times were much smaller than cities of today. But the city of Samaria at that time was under the influence of a person who practiced black magic or sorcery. His name was Simon the sorcerer. And all the people were following him because he gained control of them through his black magic, through his sorcery, through his practice of witchcraft and so on. And in a situation like that, here comes Philip, who was not an apostle. He was just a believer. He would call him as a volunteer. You know, comes Philip, but he's filled with the Holy Spirit and he proclaims Christ to them. And science wonders and miracles begin to happen. And then this Simon the sorcerer, he realizes that the Christ whom Philip is preaching is more powerful than him. And so he believes, he's baptized, he becomes a believer. And so people are also, you know, you know, brought out of Simon's control. Of course, Simon had a misunderstanding in the sense that he thought, you know, I mean, he saw Peter and John come in and they were praying for people to be filled with the Holy Spirit. He thought he could get that power by money, you know, and that was just misunderstanding. He was corrected for it. He was rebuked for it. But the point is, in this case, there was a proclamation of the gospel with power. And it saw the transformation of the city of Samaria that was previously under the control of somebody who practiced witchcraft. Then you look at Acts 13. Acts 13, when Paul and Barnabas, they come to the island of Paphos, over there again, they find another person, they find a person who practice was practicing witchcraft. And he was controlling the governor of that place. So the governor was a very spiritual man. But he was being controlled by Bar Jesus, who was a sorcerer, a practitioner of black magic and witchcraft. And Paul and Barnabas come in. They are sharing the gospel with the governor, Sergius Paulus. He's convinced. He's really interested. But this person is practicing witchcraft, is interfering. And there Paul, you know, you know, rebukes him and declares blindness on him for a season. So the power of God is demonstrated. Acts 19, Ephesians is under the control of the goddess Diana. And it says in Acts 1911, through the hands of the apostle Paul, unusual miracles were taking place. So there was a demonstration of the power of God. And some people, you know, tried to imitate Paul, the seven sons of Sceva, they tried to cast out demons. But that didn't work. But what happened? What was the effect? The people in the city of Ephesians, who were under the control of this goddess Diana, they, and they were all practicing black magic. When they saw the authority of Jesus name and how powerful it was, it says, they took all their things, you know, artifacts that they used as part of their black magic. And they went and they burned it. So the common thread in all three incidents that we see in the book of Acts is the demonstration of the power of God, all three, which brought people out of the control of its craft or black magic, caused them to discard these items and things that they were using and turn to Christ. So in a situation like that today, in that, and today's expression may be a little different, where there will be people who are practicing black magic. So our objective as a church is to keep demonstrating the power of God, keep demonstrating the power of God, so that people will experience God's working and it will show them that the power of God, the power of the name of Jesus is far superior to witchcraft, to black magic, and cause them to turn to Christ. So that would be the response, that would be our approach towards those things. You know, we can demonstrate the power of Christ being greater than those things. Is that okay, Kennedy? Thank you. All right. So welcome, Kennedy. So the next, okay, I was just going to start next and okay, I see a question here. The church of God here in Vietnam have convinced many people to believe in God, the mother using the Bible. Okay, Abraham, I'm not very familiar with this. Could you explain it a bit for us, please? Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Yes, there is a church called the Church of God, and I think they believe in Christ. I'm so happy. I think he's a new name that we all have to believe in him. So I meet so many people, I've met almost about four people who are trying to convince me that I have to believe in God, the mother, the father, and then Christ, and so on, before everything gets started. And they try to use the new Jerusalem as a cross, so that that is our motherless intelligence form. So when you meet these people, they try to use their understanding to explain the scripture. And it's the same Bible that they are using, but still that they are misinterpreted. So how do you do it this before? Is it from the spiritual realm or through Bible that is in the church? Okay, okay. So Abraham, I am not too familiar with this particular movement that, you know, or this particular group of people that you're referring to, but I understand what you're saying. I understand that these people are using new Jerusalem, based on what they read in Galatians 4, as God the mother, and they're trying to get people to believe, or they're saying you have to believe in God the father, God the mother, and in Christ, is it? And in Christ. Okay. So I don't know everything about this particular group you're referring to, but definitely that's not, you know, what the Bible is teaching us. You know, 1 John chapter 5 clearly says, there are three that bear witness in heaven, father, the spirit, and the word. So it's very clear. 1 John 5, 7, I think it is. 1 John chapter 5, yeah. 1 John 5, verses 6, 7 and 8. But verse 7 says, there are three that bear witness in heaven, the father, the word, and the spirit, and these three are one. So there's no mention of mother and all of that, right? So this whole idea of the mother is foreign to scripture. Now, you see, when we talk about cults, so I would, I would, I don't know everything about this group, but from what you have shared, I would classify them as a cult. I know it's a little early for me to make that kind of a judgment, but let's say they are a cult. I don't know all the details. Let's say they are a cult. That means they are, they are believing something that's not true. They are in error. How do we deal with them? And the same thing, you know, whether you're dealing with your horse witness or Mormons or the Latter-day Saints or, you know, all these, these, these, so many things. If, see, the thing is this, among all these groups, there are people who are very forceful in their belief. That means they are going to argue, they're going to fight. So I would say, don't waste time with them. Just leave them alone and stay away from them. No point investing your time and energy with them. What we must do is take care of the people, God is entrusted to us by teaching them the truth. You know, teach them the word, this is what the Bible says. Establish them the truth so that when they are exposed to these other groups, they can stand their ground. They know what is the truth so that when they hear something that's different from the truth, they can say, no, I'm not going to, I'm not convinced about that because I'm established in the truth. That's the first thing. Secondly, if there are people from those groups who are genuinely interested, that means they are willing to listen, they are willing to seek for answers, then of course you can point to them and say, hey, nowhere in the Bible do you find us being called to worship God the Mother. It's nowhere there. It's very clear, you know, first on five, if you're starting from Genesis up to one, you know, you could say you can see God the Father, you can see God the Spirit at work, first on five, seven, there is three that bear witness, Father, the Word and the Spirit. Nowhere is there this thing about Mother. Jerusalem is referred to that as a city of God and it's referred to many terms so but it's not a place, not something that we worship or it's not in the place of God. So if they are willing to listen, then you have that kind of conversation, otherwise just focus on taking care of the people God has given you and establish them in the truth, right? So the reference I would point us to is in Acts chapter 20 where Paul, you know, he in Acts 20, verses 29 to 32, he tells, or let me put it like this, Acts 20, 28 to 32, let me write this for you, Acts 20, 28 to 32. Let us refer you to this passage that Paul is telling the Ephesian leaders, look, you know, you're a shepherd of these people but there's going to be savage wolves who are going to come in that means people are coming in with these wrong ideas and wrong, they're going to speak all kinds of things but then he says in verse 32, I'm commending you to the word of God, you know, so he says you are a spiritual leader, you're going to face these problems with all these wrong ideas and doctrines, what's the antidote? Be established to the word of God, okay? All right, Kennedy, do you have a question or do you want to bring it up tomorrow? I have a question. Okay, go ahead, let's see if we can do it today. How do you handle the spirits of the moment? No one's spirits, where you are told people work, they work, it's like they work till they obey money, they start, they work to the extent that it becomes a moment, a moment where they just look for money, money, money, money in the society. Because we're told if they buy, unless you work, you won't eat. Yeah, so a quick answer to your question is the way we counteract something is by demonstrating the opposite attitude or discipline. So example, if there is greed, we demonstrate generosity. Right, so as believers, we demonstrate the opposite. Why? The Bible says overcome evil with good, right? So to counteract evil, what do we do? We do the good, we do the exact opposite. So we demonstrate the opposite, the good attitude of the good discipline in order to overthrow the evil. So in this case, when we say the love of mammon, how do we overthrow that? We overthrow it by demonstrating just an overflow of love for God. So the more the church comes in, church means believers as people, we demonstrate more of that, love of God, an unrestrained love for God than people who are caught up and trapped by the love of mammon. They're going to be challenged and the power over their lives will be dislocated because the church is demonstrating something superior. We overcome evil with good. So that's just a general answer that you can apply to many situations. Is that okay, Kennedy? Thank you, thank you. All right, so good questions, interesting. We will continue this tomorrow, build on this, what we've been talking about. Let's take a moment to pray and then we will dismiss, please. Can somebody pray with us? I'll pray, sir. Go ahead, Maggie. Heavenly Father, we know that you have overcome all things, Lord. You overcome death, you overcome sin, you overcome Satan himself, Lord. He has no power and we have victory in Him, Lord. Even though we live in the world that's full of hatred, full of envy, sin and other things that do not line with your word, Lord. We prefer that you continue to empower us, Lord. You continue to ask your love, Lord, so that you can reflect this love to the world. We thank you for this time, Lord, and we thank you for the wisdom that you've blessed and fasted as she is. We pray as we continue to learn, Lord, let your Holy Spirit take us more and keep us in your way, Lord, until we meet again, Father. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, we pray, Lord. Amen. Amen. Thank you, thank you, Maggie. Thank you, everyone. God bless you all. Enjoy the rest of your day. We'll meet again tomorrow. Bye now.