 Can you explain to us what is happening here now? So we have a conference, we are a project with worldwide volunteers and we are together working on a free operating system and here we are actually meeting in person, so people from all over the world have come here and so we are meeting in person to work together on those things and it's very effective to work together because normally we talk together by the internet here you can actually put all the people in a room and we can discuss various things so that's very helpful and so basically we have a conference with talks where people talk about various things and then we have them in camp where we just sit together and work together on various things and we've done that for the fifth time now so we've had a conference in Norway last year we've been in Canada the year before and it has always been very efficient to get together and work on things and it's also very fun because usually we work together by the internet so we don't actually know those people and now we actually meet each other and go out for a beer so it's really good to meet people And why did you choose Brazil this time? Every year someone else organizes it and this year someone in Brazil said we're going to organize it and they did all of the work so they did a really good job and we try to always have the conference at a different place so it's always moving and because it's a good opportunity to visit another country and to get a good impression about other countries The fourth Debian Conf, a global conference of Debian and Gino Linux developers took place in Porto Alegre in Sesc The conference was held for the first time in Brazil the biggest developers of the Debian project in the world that during the events discussed not only codes and effective tools but also the responsibility that is put into the social context of the actions practiced by them The Debian project in Gino Linux is more than a number of thousands of people developing an operational system or tools like OVC in free license It's also a social movement I am not directly involved in social things as a part of Debian but as a part of my private life Being part of Debian gives me more technical meanings technical meet ways of creating things So, for example, one thing that I do using Debian structure is customizing Debian to create a software that can be used by civil society to work better All that table that you see there is people like me that want to bring their knowledge into Debian in creating something that can help small groups and political organizations in having better tools through their work both communications over the internet or work inside the organization It's quite interesting because if you want to work socially you have to respect the local aspects of the people who will work the software and you have a new way of working you are not a business anymore you are part of the social movement itself and there are new interesting challenges that come and identify and discover on the way So, now there is a lot of talking about civil society There is a lot of talking about information society Information society is all this involvement of computer technology information technology in the contemporary society It's changing the way we communicate, we get together Actually, I'm here in Porto Alegre I'm from Italy working together with people from all around the world We are talking globalization, we are talking communication infrastructure We work together, all these people work together every day over the internet So, we are in a kind of new smaller revolution or smaller big, we still don't know and this involves social changes When something involves social changes it's part of our freedom part of our freedom is the duty of being attentive of what happens and trying to make it become better So, that's why I think many people probably in Porto Alegre first because I know you are doing it since at least 1999 the fissile forum is going on but besides Porto Alegre all around the world people are getting aware of that and are trying to see how globalization and information society can be made better can be made good and bring on this So, we started personally I started working with local groups in the city trying to help small radios or fair trade shops in creating the infrastructure they needed and then we started working with civil society groups to teach them how to use free software with the idea that if you are creating a better world then you must start being a better world yourself and so starting being able to use the better world tools for computers as well Hello, my name is Samaya Rodrigo I'm from Spain, I'm one of the... I think I'm the only female devian developer in Europe and there's only other two girls in the world that are devian developers two, one of them I've met them I've met one of them and I'm going to try to speak about how I feel being a female in this world of men I think we have a little visibility and I'm sure there are many more women out there doing free software development but it's only that they're doing it in the dark I also think we have to put this stop to the masculine view of the world and the free software I think women have a lot to contribute to free software and not only pink desktops, I mean real things like for example there's an image viewer called Pern View it should be offensive to women what I'm trying to do is making women more visible in the free software world I'm trying to get more users interested in devian and Linux and free software too and in technology because there are very good tools for goals we all have as human beings either you're a woman or a man what I also am trying to do is get women involved in development so that they become more visible I think one key thing for me to become a devian developer is that I had a very role model that I could follow which was my aunt she was a computer user when I was little and it didn't shock me too much to see women involved with computers so that's what I'm trying to do get more visibility and make the problem be acknowledged there's no women in technology and eventually there will be but I want to make that as fast as possible or faster