 Gay-Hawaiian. Gay-Hawaiian. Gay-Hawaiian. Gay-Hawaiian. Gay-Hawaiian. Gay-Hawaiian. Gay-Hawaiian. I'm Rick. I'm Rick. It's not about the road you're gonna. It's not about the road, it's not about the road, it's about the world, about the world, about the world, about the world! Nipple land is alive and well. Here's a tonal. Are yours pierced? Would you ever pierce your nipples? My dad and my brother's are. Your dad has his nipples pierced? It was an old surfer thing back in the day. Good for him. For surfers to. Does he still wear stuff in there? Yep, nice. And my brother has one. You should have a shirt that says my dad's nips are pierced. Anyways, do I ever do a movie with you? Of the film that just came out, I'm sure none of you know, called The Deep. Is that what it is? Or The Depths. Yeah, that's what the translation is. That's what the translation is. The Deep, the Depths. Geharahia. Geharahia. Geharahia. It's becoming more Yiddish. Geharahia. Is Yiddish just... The Jews don't do this. This is Italian. There's a lot of Italian Jews. That's true. You can't win. Anyway. It's off the rails already. But yeah, we're doing a movie review of the 2022 film. Geharahia. It just came out on Amazon. Directed by... Forgive the mispronunciation, please. He also wrote it with a couple of other people who were the writers. And he was... Shakun is the producer. He's a bunch of people including Kieran Johar. I do love hearing that sound effect of... The opening of Dharma. Dharma? I got just real happy. Anyways, but starring just a couple people... I want to read those names. Yes, typical Paragon. Siran Charveri. Nanya Pandi. Naseridin Shah. Spoiler alert if you didn't know that. Darya Karva and Rajat Kapoor. Those are the main leads. Obviously it's a big ensemble piece. I think by now others would know this by now. But for many who didn't know that, and you've watched it, it was a pleasant surprise to see the legend, Naseridin Shah. When he showed up I was like, Oh, he's the father! Exactly. He was like, dang! Yeah! Anyways, but this is new. So we'll do a little non-spoiler review. In case you haven't watched it. It's on Amazon though, so it'd be an easy watch if you want to go watch it. But we'll do a little non-spoiler review. There's a lot going on in this film. It's going to be hard to not talk about all the spoilers. We'll give you a little non-spoiler and then we'll head into the spoiler section for you. So Rick, your initial non-spoiler thoughts. Initial non-spoiler thoughts. This is our 10th film of the year, our 135th Hindi film of all time, 217th film of all time. So here's the question. In what is becoming an increasingly crowded OTT platform world full of really high quality content? Was Amazon, Topeka, and Team able to put together a movie that lived up to the height, lived up to the quality of the trailer, lived up to our high expectations, and is it deserving of your time and attention? Yep. With Topeka being her usually fantastic self and quite frankly brave, if you know anything about some of her own personal struggles she's shared without in the open. And MC Sherp showing us he can be a quality leading man opposite someone of her caliber, Keherahia is absolutely deserving of your watching it and doing so with others. When Drani and I watched it with our landlady who's also from India and all three of us loved it. Yeah. Yep. I enjoyed it as well. I'm shocked though that I've heard a lot of people. It boggles my mind. Did not enjoy this thought. What's the matter? Come on. And so we're not going into spoilers yet. We will get into spoilers and talk a little bit about why I think that is. Yeah. I've read a couple of them and Drani read a couple of me and I'm like I can't wait to go and help Justice I don't understand. Team. I think this is a It's not a perfect film. I do think there are flaws. No. But the fact that some people are just like this is a bad film. I'm like I don't know what the fuck you just watched. Absolutely. But anyway. You know what? And I have ideas. And we'll get into it with the spoilers. So before we do that, which by the way, speaking of spoilers, I've said it before. I'll say it again until my grave. Critics. You aren't storytellers. Stop telling stories in your reviews and your critiques. Storytelling is meant for the storytellers who make the films. When you review a film, if you're going to share spoilers, put a disclaimer. Too many of you tell the story of the film before you tell us what you thought about it. And therefore, why would anyone need to watch the film? Because you just told it to them in a narrative in your paragraph in your review. So please don't do that. But overall, because like I said, there's a lot going on in this film. This is a highly complex, highly leveled film. Which just a bunch of stuff going on. Took me by surprise. Yeah. But. So we'll do a little non-spoiler and then we'll get in. But everything is, I think, top notch. From the acting. Yep. We'll get into more of that from Topeka to... This is no shock. Naserdan Shah is good. What a surprise. He's very good. What a surprise. He reminded me a lot of the dad in Call Me By Your Name. Remember how we raved? And he won the Oscar that year. Yeah. But I mean, I know you didn't like that film as much as I did. No, but the acting is spectacular. Especially by the dad. Yeah. Who obviously at the end gives that incredible, incredible honk honk. I think it was very similar... That's a good comparison. I didn't think about that. That's a fair comparison of the caliber. Yeah. He's just like in The Debra but even more so. Like... He just comes on and it was already a highly elevated artistry. And then he just kind of like, you shouldn't be able to be that good. You know, like take something that I think was already a really good film and then be like, you want to see something better? And he's that good. I agree. But for him... I don't want to say MC Shaw. I want to call him by his real name. I know. Call him by his real name. Sit down. Check with Eddie. Yeah. I thought he did really well. He probably had the most complex role in the entire film. And I actually, without giving anything away here, in the first half of the film I was a little bit concerned. I felt the same way I did with, didn't talk about this anywhere yet. But in West Side Story, the remake was Spielberg. And Johnny and I really love the girls who both play Maria and Anita a lot. And I'm so happy that Anita, the actress is nominated. And I felt like it was a really stellar debut for the actress who plays Maria. And I felt like she was overpowering Tony. Yeah. And that he didn't have the depth and the emotion. I was concerned at first. He was going to match to Pika. Yeah, I was concerned. Because he was very low key and there wasn't a lot going on there. And I thought, please let this be a choice. It's written as a character. Please let the second half. We're going to see. No spoilers. He did. The second half. It's there. Everybody in the lead, even though some are small, like Ananya, who plays Tia. Ananya. I don't think we've seen her before. I don't recall seeing her. But I thought she did well. And the guy who played... Oh, well we've seen him. Rajat Kapoor. We haven't seen him. Yeah. But he did well. And then obviously, Rajat Kapoor, he's a veteran actor. Yeah, that's it. But I was talking about this guy who played Topeka's first love interest. Oh, he played Kapoor. Yeah. He did well. I don't think there was any weak links in terms of the acting. I agree. I thought the writing was really complex. It takes a lot. I mean, this film was very western and so maybe that's why some Indians didn't enjoy it as much. And I could understand where they would maybe not like it. Because of that I agree. Like this is like a very familiar format. This is a, it was a high level, like this concept of telling a story about some infidelity and it's way more than just about infidelity. And it was compared in a couple of reviews to a Woody Allen film that I haven't seen, but it's an older Woody Allen film. And I don't know if it's definitively like plagiaristic or not. I have the vantage point of having never seen it. So I have nothing to compare to. It's very funny. We were watching it with many, many of our landlady who's Indian. We're about halfway through the film. No, three quarters of the way through the film. And she says, I've seen this before. And we said, no, you haven't. This came out today. You haven't seen this before. She may have seen the Woody Allen film like 20 years ago. I don't know. But yeah, so I thought the, the writing was really complex. And if you, if you have an open mind about this film, about you don't need to have a hero in a story to tell a story, you think you're going to just really enjoy a complex story of human beings. Just like if you enjoyed Made in Heaven, you will definitely enjoy this film. Absolutely. This is a very similar style. It's a very great character. If you like Made in Heaven, you would like this equally. It's very similar to that. The directing is great. I think it can be a little long. I think films like this probably would have been better. And it didn't drag for me. Me too. I just felt like these style films probably benefit a little more from being a little short. It was one of those things where, okay, for those who have a bone to pick about the runtime, okay, but it didn't bother me. No, it didn't bother me. The Thank you. I was hoping you'd say that. The score was really, really well done. Everything about this film, you might have hated this film. Some people have responded to what we said, but we're going to watch it. They said, I didn't like the film. Okay. But we, if you know our style and what we like, if you are similar to us, I think you're really going to enjoy this film. Everything about this film is top notch. All right, so let's spoil and talk about it. If you haven't watched it, find out where you were in the runtime here and then pick it right back up. Let's talk about the acting. Yeah. Um, and let's talk about the star of the film, Dupika. This is her best performance. It's Dupika's film. I think this is her best performance. And I, because of two things, because my favorite performance of hers up till now, I mean, she's had all great films. I've never seen her do anything bad as of yet. But my favorite thing, but Piku, no, Piku, because she was holding her own opposite, opposite Bachchan and Irfan. So it was like, oh, yeah. And I, I agree with you. If someone were to ask me today, what's, what do you think is the best performance because of the fact that she's pretty much on screen for the totality of the film. She's having to cover Carrie a lot of emotional weight. Especially towards the end and be honest about it. Yep. And there were a lot of things that I know that she was, I would love to talk to her about how much of what she was using and considering the quality of actress that she is, I can't imagine she didn't tap into her own personal things and she substituted it for the character. And when we see her having a panic attack, having anxiety, hands trembling, that she was doing what great actresses do. She was simply being naked in front of the camera and sharing her most vulnerable self with us. So I agree with you. I think this is without question. The number one reason to watch this is if you want to watch a great actress, doing great work. Yeah. She did amazing. Even though she was amazing, I think it's hard to upstage the Debra Depp. Necessarily. The manager's coming on screen. No, but think about it. I mean, she's right there with him. Oh yeah, no. Another legend. Yeah. The fact that she did so amazing and that the best scene in the entire thing is, I think, with her and him at the end. Absolutely. And I have a question to ask you about that. It was a phenomenal scene between the whole kind of twist reveal that I did not actually see coming this time. Oh. Definitely. There's a lot of what I ask you about. But yeah, the fact that that whole twist of it was, it was, I didn't know a couple of twists. Yeah, there was quite a few twists. Yeah. Once again, spoiler. When he was like, it was, it was, no, not he didn't say it, but when she found out that it was, and so did her mom and her cousin's dad that were having the affair and that was even though, I think they handed it delicately because obviously you still don't know, like, Necessaire and Child's relationship and her relationship if he was like, kind of, um, um, uh, Dupika's boyfriend at the time, kind of like, are neglectful. Yeah. So you don't, obviously you're not, you don't know. Explaining away the affair or anything like that, but obviously I thought it was good of, I didn't think they totally demonized her and like. Not at all. But the fact that she had these questions like, am I, am I like my mom? Oh, it's so deep. It's an entire, like you can write a thesis on, on the, the... And that's why the title of it is so good. It really is deep and the use of the waves regularly is not supposed to talk about, which the trailer led us to believe that this was about a tumultuous affair almost akin to a TV series that we've been in the middle of watching, spent around a long time called The Affair. Um, you think from the trailer that that's what you're going to be getting and that's enough for you to jump in and see. But the depth of so many of the things, most especially the psychology behind what she's dealing with and the ultimate message about the film that I think is what are the things that make us who we are from our past and how much of that is based on objective reality or your subjective observation about them and how much of it is based on truth. How many times are we dealing with things that we found out later it actually wasn't true because we perceived it to be we lived in that truth. That's incredible in the writing. It's absolutely phenomenal writing which I think like if you didn't like you didn't I just don't get why people couldn't like this movie. It didn't think about what they were the film was trying to say. You were just like oh is she cheated? Right. Oh they had sex. I don't like that in my films. I read a review that said the second half got us off the path. What? I'm like well if all you were thinking was this was going to be a movie about two people who fell in love and cheated and had to figure out their relationships. That was a lot deeper than that hence the title. Yeah I just I don't understand it but yeah that whole Nasseridin Shah he comes on screen and he was so different in this as well even though they made him look older. He made him look older and he carried himself as a man who was pretty fragile and wounded both emotionally and physically and he carried that really well. Yeah and their whole dynamic and then the scene that they shared together. I love that scene. Stuff you can tell going on behind Nasseridin Shah's eyes. It's just it's incredible. But Siddharth I actually thought had the most complex role in the entire thing even though at Deepika obviously she had to carry most of the weight in terms of emotionally he had a very complex role. Extremely complex role and I really like the fact that he at the outset was what I thought and was concerned with was going to be just kind of flat and kind of there which what else are you supposed to do Rick that's what's in the script that's what's in the character he's supposed to be kind of got a poker face on most of the time and then when the shit hits the fan I loved him. There were so many moments in this where we were riveted and then leaping forward going what the heck. Like one of my favorite moments we're assuming you've all seen it when you're watching at this point in the reaction one of my favorite moments and Mini called it our landlady she's sitting next to us and they're and he says Mini said he's going to have to kill her and right then he goes and pushes her off the boat we're naive and innocent and ready to accept everything no we thought he really killed her I knew it was him we thought he really killed her until the pullback was revealed that it was just a thought in his head I loved that his whole character was so complex and very complex he didn't think about this film he was like I don't get why he's a narcissist this is truly this is truly this is a movie for people who think deeper than just surface the guy is the definition of a narcissist correct of somebody who it's all about them and they will do everything like it will seem like a normal person not the most charming man in the world but any time that they are their livelihood or their person or their whatever is at risk whether it's hurting somebody whether it's I guess in this sense he would go to the length because obviously he had a lot of circumstances financially he had relationally he had whatever legally all this kind of stuff going on but like he's a definition of we used to have a president this way who was a member so this character is like he would do anything to keep himself in his position but here's the thing it's written and he portrays it and it's directed as to not make him like our former president because if it had been you would have just hated him and wanted to see him die and when he did you would have been really really happy we were happy when he died but it wasn't celebratory we were happy that it wasn't so much that he died as much as it was he's not going to kill the pika you know yeah so it's really great job I thought they did a really good job with the writing I thought he did a really good job portraying that character and the others as well I thought did his role was really complex as well he didn't get a lot of screen time not as much as the others but the fact that his whole relationship with the pika was similar to what we saw in lunch box except he didn't cheat but he was and it's a very real relationship that a lot of people fall into the pika stated in a relationship that she wasn't really happy and for years and a lot of people just stay and I didn't doubt he loved her he just became neglectful and that was because he was really focused on something and lost focus of her and it's obviously it's something that obviously the pika finally broke it off and he regretted that but obviously I'm glad they didn't get back together because I was like it's just going to happen again and so but I thought this whole writing of it's not a happy film no it's such a mature film it's a very mature film and I love the maturity of Nasseridh and the dad when he finds out that Zayn was there and he talks to her about it and he realizes that he comes at it from a place of sage wisdom and experience he doesn't come accusatory to her he comes with Zayn was here last night he just everything about the character was I'm not going to judge I'm going to find out what I can find out first I'm going to assume the best that I can and I felt like just the writing and the acting and the directing and let's talk about cinematography was just really intelligent and mature you could tell from the from the trailer the cinematography that you were going to get and you definitely got it from the opening frame yeah this film it was like I said I think it's like almost Oscar worthy there's two moments cinematography wise that we're phenomenal to me the first one was was it a freaking GoPro in the car when it was the complete 360 that was done when Zayn and Deepika are in the car and the camera is looking out the windshield goes to him driving goes to the back seat and goes to her I said you can't fit a red camera or a 35mm in that space in a car what did they do they probably cut a hole in the top but in between the seats yeah you've seen those rigs how they bring up cars I have but I haven't seen them do a 360 in the interior I think that's what they did well it was spectacular I think they either have a car that didn't have a roof it was spectacular and they I was thinking about the space between the two of them whatever they did it was custom whatever it was spectacular as was one of my favorite shots from outside the window at night it's a continual shot and what you see they chose to allow the reflection of the city to be in the window as they're slowly following Deepika from room to room and not once do you see crew or camera reflected in the window as they're following but you're seeing the cityscape reflected great shot absolutely the cinematography in this was top notch I'd have to keep it down so I remember it for the dummies but this is it will definitely be in that consideration coming into the year great cinematography I don't know what's gonna come out or what we're gonna watch yet but yeah it was easily easily and Rajit I thought did a really good job as always he's oh yeah the minute I saw him I'm like well he works all the time and he's always correct so this director is actually I'm gonna talk about the directing he did a phenomenal job he's the director and I heard like a lot of people like this film's not on the level of Kaporsan I think it's the opposite I think this film far surpasses even though I thought there were some really good things that happened in Kaporsan and I thought there was a good moment so you could tell he likes to do the drama and all that kind of stuff that one had relational tension this one was strictly drama that had a lot of comedy drama and it was a more like a better Bollywood feel a little bit this did or that Oh yeah it's definitely more of a stereotypical Indian cinema kind of feel but I thought he did a phenomenal job I thought that growth I see from Kaporsan is this it's a lot of growth and I'm glad Amazon let him do what he wanted to do and credit to him and the writing team because the writing in this was especially act 2 the whole second half it went in a place and really great job with your trailer guys because you gave us enough to be interested we would have been with Deepika and him anyway but I did not see this story coming the way that it did I was expecting more like the affair a love story that goes wrong and they're hiding it and they reveal it and their stuff I also really liked the use of flashback with her and her mom it was brutal to find out and I liked the reveal when we found out the truth about her mom and what she saw and how that's impacting her and how repeatedly we'd see things about placement of her hand on a desk or something to get into the psychology and the mind of her character I would like to know because I said something at one point and I'd like to know if I was right the scene ends toward the end of the film with Deepika and Sarah and he says because you're my daughter and it goes down to their hands and it fades to black and then it said two years later and I said Corbin's going to hate that I didn't like that part you would have loved it to just credits right there right end it there yeah or I mean I'm fine with it ending the way it did because I actually didn't mind the end-end part I think it helped of what they did but I just wish it wasn't like a two year later thing right and I was like you could have done this easily the same day or a different day no because Karen had to get a new girl but I just hate that stuff I know it seems lazy to me but no I actually liked the end part because they didn't spoon feed you like they ended it on the and another twist oh another little twist oh we we met you before Alicia right and then it cuts and you presume that how's your fiance Zane or mm-hmm yeah whatever it was so that's what you just assumed and I like that they didn't answer that question and it comes right after the two girls and I love that they did that because the film is really about the sisters not just the one it's really about the two of them because their sisters though are they yeah she found out that was the whole thing oh because yeah it was an affair so they're really sisters and they have just said to each other can we forget the past and move on with a clean slate yes we can and then here comes the past right up in their face I thought it was great yeah I agree this film was really really good really well made top notch in all aspects I just can't understand what people didn't enjoy it really don't because I saw some reviews and they were like they said fuck a lot okay they had sex and also just really you know I thought it was subdued to sex that day we said the very thing we specifically said we felt they did a great job this guys the subject matter isn't for kids okay kids are going to see this and go I said this in drawing one point but kids are going to watch this and go uh dad what's a what's a valuation no one's going to know these things about company and what it means to have somebody need to take a second mortgage out on something and valuate your company so that you know whether you have six months of equity that's not for kids and they did a good job of showing us intimacy that was adult without it going a little too far so that it was at the most watching it with the kids going oh oh oh don't don't and then it's over so yeah I feel like people like that didn't like it like they just are uncomfortable around sex cause it makes them feel uncomfortable they uncomfortable around the word fuck cause it makes them feel uncomfortable or like I don't know I can't really think of why like I just don't get it there are people I know people like that here they don't like found language or they don't like sex call it a bad film because of it exactly at least you can say this I'm a little bitch and I don't like the word fuck you at least can say this I think it's a great movie I personally don't like vulgarity in sex and films that's fine but to say the movie is bad cause it has that that's imposing your own particular world view under the film and basing its quality on that rather than its artistry yeah or like people are either cause obviously a lot of people don't like to watch stuff about cheating because either yeah yeah I'm not saying it's like an enjoyable thing but like a lot of like either one they cheated and they don't like that because it makes them uncomfortable what they did or they were cheated on and that's trauma from their past I get that I get it it's fine but once again you can't call a film bad because it makes you uncomfortable just because you don't like watching certain stories being told doesn't mean it's a bad film and not worthy being told and the things about this kind of artistry about the whole world of theater whether it's on TV stage or movie screens is that it's supposed to be showing us the human condition and the fact that we all share the same universal struggles with one another and when you watch other people going through the struggles you have two things one lessons you can learn and secondarily the recognition that we're not alone and all of us is flawed and all of us is broken and we all respond not only differently but we all respond quite the same sometimes so yeah it's a very human story very human story and I loved it and I thought it was very well made hats off to Shakun yeah Shakun Bhatra forgive us for mispronouncing your name and Pika and the entire crew of this film I think you did a phenomenal job and you should be very proud of what you did yeah absolutely Ranveer's post giving her a kiss he said something very eloquent about her depth as an actress and the beauty that she presented and I couldn't agree with you more absolutely I actually saw his live the other day he was talking talking about her and he was like after he saw it cause they didn't she didn't tell him like this is the style of film and what was going on in the film while they were filming it so he was like you didn't tell me cause she would just come home and be happy and he was like you were doing this so he had no idea the depth of what she was working man I'd love to talk to her so Topeka if you're watching we would I don't get to talk to you oh Naserdan Shah sir I know you're watching yes