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I thought last time I checked that people at least understand that if I'm going to do something, then I'm going to make sure that I have biblical support for what I do. And you don't have to like it. You don't even have to agree with it. Deal with the scripture. Take it up with the Lord. You don't have to worry about me. But anyway, moderate thank you for holding it down. Facebook family, thank you for joining. Jim, Ed, thank you, assistance maker. Good to see you, my sister. Those of you in the chat, thank you as well to me in the name. I want to go ahead and get in right into this subject right now. And we're going to do a little bit of highlighting of the video of the call that you heard. And so I'm going to highlight certain clips. And then I'm going to give a commentary on that. And then also try to read some of the comments in the chat. And then I'll let you all go. But first, but first, why do I record conversations of people sometimes when I'm having discussions with them? Well, first reason, first reason. And this goes for anybody. The Bible says in Jeremiah 17, 9 that the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Who can know it? Who can know it? You and I have deceit, deceitful and deceptive hearts. And if, if not led by the Spirit of God and by the control and auspices of the Spirit of God, we will, we will do some of the most dastardly, demonic, deceptive things even after being saved. So since I know people like to lie and since I have been the recipient of lies and since I know that people will lie on you and try to destroy your name, your reputation, your ministry, your character, and even your very life, your soul. People have died. Ladies and gentlemen, people have died because people have been lying on. And some of us are the main ones, some of us black folks, some of us Negroes are the main ones talking about justice or the main ones talking about how the, how the criminal justice system is targeting black people and how we don't have a fair, fair chance and fair shake. Well, there's always nuance to that. There's always incidents and outliers to that, right? The issue that I, that I see when people are falsely accused and they don't have the, the, the means and resources is one thing. But you know, there are people who have been on death row. There are some people who have died who have lost their lives because somebody had lied. Oh, you know what the name Emmett Till comes to mind. I know if, if in the fifties they would have had security cameras in these, in these stores and on these streets of the people were, were morally upright, maybe by God's grace Emmett Till will still be alive today, enjoying his old age, if not getting ready to end the last few days of his life naturally, instead of being lied on and having his life murderously taken from him because someone lied on him. The Bible says a lying tongue hates those it crushes. If you think, if you think people don't lie in the body of Christ, then you don't know, you don't know anything about the church. You know nothing about the church because people will lie. People will twist the words. People will misrepresent you. People will falsely accuse you and won't even blink an eye. So I've learned, I've learned, depending on certain situations and depending on certain conversations, yeah, I'm going to red dot you. I'm going, I'm going to red dot you. You know, Naboth, he lost his life because a wicked woman by the name of Jezebel lied and she had two worthless, that's what the Bible calls him, two worthless, two beelzebo, Belial, sons of Belial, worthless is what the, is what the Hebrew calls these men. No good. We will call them trash. Two no good trash men lied on an innocent man because these people coveted his vineyard and he lost his life through an unjust court system because in the Old Testament times, to take God's name in vain was a capital crime and it was punishable by death. So we live in a day and time where people will lie on you. People will falsely accuse you and set you up and I'm telling you, if you don't have your receipt game on tight, you're going to be one of the victims. But for me, no, I've been burnt too many times. I've had people come in, come to my house and lie. People pull up in front of my house and record and have individuals try to record lies. Oh yeah, have people lie and say that I have restraining orders against me and the video doesn't get taken down even, even when I protested and even when I reported to YouTube, but what did YouTube do? Oh, we can't take that down as free speech. So we have people that will make videos about you and twist the narrative and if you're not discerning and if you're not a person who doesn't believe in defending themselves, then you're going to you're going to fall prey. You're going to be meat and fodder for the individuals that you thought were your friends or thought that you would be braided eyes with. It needs to be the main ones that roll over on you. Yeah, Kevin Oliver did it, that clown, that sucker, yeah, him. And then another one, Michael Williams, he did another one. So two sucker trash Negroes did videos on me, lied, twisted it, took some of my videos from his intended context, ripped it, and then you have people that were supporting me and people that I have ministers to and help their families, they follow them. And you got some people in the chat right now that would call me, ask me for, for marital advice, would call me and ask me to, to help their families because here's the thing, that's what the body of Christ is supposed to do. So I don't, I don't have any regrets doing that. And let me just say this to some of you right now. Let me, let me pull a pin. Let me pull a pin in this real quick. People can make you not want to serve in the kingdom. Don't let them do that. Don't let them do that. Listen, I tell people all the time, and I told my wife this, and my wife, my wife is a living testimony of this. My wife got food poisoning years ago. She went to Anton. Listen, my wife doesn't even go to Anton's anymore. She went to Anton's, I believe it was off of West Hammer, wasn't it dear? Off of West Hammer and 16, she wouldn't get her a sandwich. And then within a day or so later, matter of fact, within 24 hours, she was sick. I'm talking about sick as a dog. Couldn't find out she had, she had food poisoning. You know what she did? Did she stop eating? No. Did she, did she, did she stop boycotting food? Did she start, you know, protesting the fruit, the food and drug administration? No. What she stopped doing was going to that place, that place called Anton's. She has never set foot at Anton's again. Why? Because she had a bad experience with that place. So we don't go to the extreme because we've been hurt or been messed over by church folk. And I'm going to tell you something, church folk are the worst. They are the worst. The majority of my life has always been battling church folk. It has never really been with the world. It's been with so-called Christians, church folk. Yeah, church folk. But what I, but what I cannot afford to do is take my, take my marbles and take my ball and go home. Why? Because there's a work to do. And God never told me anything in a fine print that I was going to be deceived. No, he told me clearly. Those who desire to live godly in Christ, Jesus will suffer persecution. He told us, Jesus told us in Matthew 10, don't think I can't bring peace. I can't bring the sword. Those in your own house will be your enemies if you're standing for Christ and they don't. The person may be laying right next to you that you may have made a covenant with, made a vow with. They could be one of the very ones that turn on you and flip on you. So we're living in the last days, legend, you know what I mean? You better get your, you better get your receipt game up. You better have your snaps up because if you don't, you will be prey for the enemy. You will be prey for the enemy. I have no, I make no apologies for red dotting any Negro or Negro. None. If I believe, if I feel I need the red dot them, I'm red dotting you. And you know what? Most of the times when I do, it's been necessary. And here's the thing. If you don't lie, you ain't got to worry about me dropping receipts on you. Because see, here's what the Bible says. The Bible says that we could flee when no one pursues, but the righteous and voters align. You can read down me all you want. Because if I have nothing to hide, I have no reason, I have no reason to run. None. And I know for a fact there have been people who have been recording me. I'm cool with it. You know why? Because if, if you, if, if I said to you privately, I can say it publicly, but I have never, never, and I, and I can stand 10 toes down. Any receipt that I make public is because somebody lied, because somebody lied, period, because somebody either lied or somebody else's reputation is being, is being destroyed or being misrepresented. And it's my responsibility. See, that's one of the things the Bible says, love does not rejoice in unrighteousness. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we're to speak the truth in love. And so some of you will tell my love keeps the records wrong. Please miss me with that ice of Jesus. That has nothing to do with dropping receipts on people who lie. The text actually means love does not, when it says love does not keep a record of wrong. It means love does not bring the passive against someone to use it against them negatively. No, no, no. That's, that's what it means because we're always going to remember, but we don't bring the passive. In other words, love is not historical. If I forgive you, I'm done with it. If I forgive you, we good. But if you're doing dirt and it's reoccurring dirt, then I'm supposed to hold you accountable. Bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, some of you better get your receipt game up. You, you, you better get your receipt game up because nowadays, today in this society and this time, people will cut you. Now, you can do what you want. I've already told you. I've already told you. That's why April Chapman can't see me. That's why when she tried to, when she tried to lie, that's why Mike Williams tried to lie. What I do, I drop them receipts on them. I dropped the red dot of receipts on them. Y'all, y'all, see some of y'all got red bottoms. I got red dots. I got red dots. I got red dots. That's what I got. Let me, let me answer your question real quick. Let me answer your question real quick here. Godfather YouTube, you said, say, go after a public sender, man, it's public review, but the call was private and you gave public review. Have me out. Good. No problem. I'm glad you asked that question. Here's the thing. Corey lied. Okay. That private conversation, number one, and I'm about to show you a description in just a minute. Number one, here in the state of Texas, it's called one part of consent law. In other words, all it takes is one part to record a conversation. I don't need anybody's permission to do that here in Texas. None. If somebody calls me, be a one part of consent state, hey, they can record it. And I don't have to be even the wiser at all. I have the right to do that. Now, when you lie and when you flip flop, and then when you defend a pastor who supports pedophiles, child molesters, and wife beaters, and then you publicly say one minute in 2022 that you demand that John McArthur step down. And then in 2023, you're not demanding that he step down. And now you're protecting and caping for him and saying that he's not disqualified, but you give no biblical support for that. None. But you don't want to know HEB in Greek. You don't want to know the languages, but you don't know common sense. Corey. So that's why I exposed him because he was lying and been lying. And that's just one of the things he's been lying about. He lied about his criminal history. But don't get me started on that. You just go to the video that the video interview that I had with with attorney Tareem McGrew, the one he calls a software attorney, you know, throwing all these insults and stuff now. But that's what happens when you get busted. But let's go to the descriptions. We got a lot of work to cover. Matthew chapter 10 verse 16, just as Jesus talking to the disciples, he says, behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Do you see that? Wolves ain't nice. Wolves, you don't, you don't pet a wolf. You put wolves down, but notice Jesus says, I'm sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Notice. So be shrewd. Notice how you are to deal with wolves. Notice how you are to deal with wolves. He says, be shrewd or be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. Do you see that? I hope you do. He didn't say be like the, he didn't say be like the devil, be deceitful. No, he said be shrewd, be wise, know, know your enemy, know how to move around with wolves, know the law, know your rights, know the people that you're dealing with, because if not, you're going to be fooled for these wolves. But no, this is be wise, be shrewd as serpents, but be innocent as doves in your behavior. But in your mentality, you better have your, you better have your street game on. You better be one step ahead of these people. Romans 16 and verse 19 verse, it says, for the report of your obedience, this is Paul writing to the church of Rome. He says, for the report of your obedience has reached to all. Therefore I'm rejoicing over you, but I listen, but I want you to be wise and what is good and innocent and what is evil and innocent and what is evil. Have some wisdom about yourself, but, but, but just in case, just in case some of y'all forgot, just in case some of y'all forgot, sir, kind of a tech, please don't tell me how to, please don't tell me how to talk. Please don't tell me how to talk, please. Please don't tell me how to talk and please don't tell me, I've been doing this, I've been doing ministry for over 20 years, bro. I've been doing this for a minute. Trust me, trust me. I know what I'm doing. This ain't personal. This is biblical, never personal, never personal, never personal by God's grace. But let's look at, I want to show you a story. I want to show you one, one sister's receipt game in the Old Testament. Okay. I want to show you, I want to show you how receiptology was even practiced in the Old Testament. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. I know y'all don't remember, some of y'all may have forgotten, but let me remind this because sometimes we forget these stories and when you do a lot of lives, the doctrine of receiptology, it's in the Old and New Testament. But let's look at the Old Testament just for a second. Genesis chapter 38, Genesis 38, hope somebody's going to be free from this malaise and mentality of thinking that you don't supposed to keep receipts or you're not supposed to record conversations. You better, if your life is depending upon it. Ha. Verse one, the story of Judah and Tamar, receiptology 101. Let's get it. And it came about at that time that Judah departed from his brothers and visited a certain Adelomite whose name was Hyra. Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Kenanite whose name was Shewa and he took her and went into her. So she conceived and bore a son and he named him Er. Then she conceived again and bore a son and named him Onan. She bore still another son and named him Shela. And it was at Chizib that she bore him. Now Judah took a wife for Er, his firstborn and her name was Tamar. Don't forget that name. Don't forget that name. Verse seven, but Er, Judah's firstborn was evil in the sight of the Lord. So the Lord took his life. Then Judah said to Onan, go into your brother's wife and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her and raise up offspring for your brother. Verse nine, Onan knew that the offspring would not be here. So when he went into his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. In other words, he pulled out. Okay? And some of you people had an issue when I talked about Marcus Rogers and I said, Marcus Rogers, when I get done with him, is going to wish that his dad did like Onan did and let off on a towel. That's what I said. Well, the text says here, verse nine, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. Verse 10, and it's called Onanism. You look it up. The word Onanism is the withdrawal method. But verse 10 says, but what he did, what Onan did was displeasing in the sight of the Lord. So he took his life also. Then Judah said to his daughter-in-law, Tamar, remain a widow. Now don't forget Judah is another character. These two characters, Judah and Tamar. Then Judah said to his daughter-in-law, Tamar, remain a widow in your father's house until my son Shelah grows up for I thought I'm afraid that he might, he too might die like his brothers. So Tamar went and lived in her father's house. Now after a considerable time, she was daughter, the wife of Judah died. And when the time of morning was ended, Judah went up to his sheep shears and Timna. He and his friend Hyra, the Delamite, it was told to Tamar, behold, your father-in-law is going up to Timna to share his sheep. So she removed her widow's garments and covered herself with a veil and wrapped herself and sat in the gateway at Inaim, which is on the road to Timna. For she saw that Shelah had grown up and she had not been given to him as a wife. So she's like, look, I'm tired of waiting. So she's not going to take matters in her own hands. But notice, verse 15, when Judah saw her, he thought she was a harlot for she had covered her face. Give me to say this real quick. Some of you ladies want to get offended when people look at how you dress and may call you, you know, made for the streets, call you a hoe and all that kind of stuff. Well, Proverbs chapter 30, I mean, Proverbs chapter seven, verse 10 talks about how a woman can dress like a harlot. So how you dress can give the message. This woman's face was covered and Judah thought that she was a prostitute. Let's go back to the text. Just a little freebie there for you. Verse 16. So she, so excuse me for you. So he turned aside to her by the road and said here now, let me come into you. For he did not know that she was his daughter-in-law. And he, and she said, what will you give me that you may come into me? Now notice here, y'all, look, look at this. Look at the text now. Before, before a sexual act occurs, she's wanting something for collateral. Verse 16, the B clause. Look at that. Look at verse 16, the B clause. What will you give me? She says that you may come into me. Verse 17. He said, therefore, I will send you a young goat from the flock. She said, moreover, will you give me a pledge until you send it? She said, I need something. I need something now though. Give me, I need a down payment. I need something. I need assurance, assurity. He said, I will send a young goat from the flock. She said moreover, will you give me a pledge until you send it? He said, what pledge shall I give you? And she said, your seal and your cord and your staff that is in your hand. So he gave them to her and went into her and she conceived by him. Then she arose and departed and removed her veil and put on her widow's garments. Then Judah sent the young goat by his friend, the Adelomite, to receive the pledge from the woman's hand. He did not find her. He asked the men of her place saying, where is the temple prostitute who was by the road of Ename? But they said, there has been no temple prostitute here. So he returned to Judah and said, I did not find her. And furthermore, the men of the place said, there has been no temple prostitute here. Then Judah said, let her keep them. Otherwise, he would become a laughing stock. After all, I sent this young goat, but you did not find her. Now it was about three months later that Judah was informed, your daughter-in-law Tamar has played the harlot and behold, she is also with child by harlotry. Then Judah said, bring her out and let her be burned. It was while she was being brought out that she sent to her father-in-law saying, I am with child by the man to whom these things belong. And she said, please examine and see whose signet ring and court and staff are these. She had receipts. She had receipts. Verse 26, Judah recognized them and said, she is more righteous than I in as much as I did not give her to my son, Sheila. And he did not have relations with her again. If she did not have receipts to prove that she was with him, even though he didn't know, there was some, there was some, you know, deception going on. Don't get me wrong. But as she had not produced any receipts, she would have been a dead woman. And notice what, and notice what Judah said, her father-in-law, you're more righteous than I am. Receipts also exposes hypocrisy. That's the point. Receipts exposes hypocrisy and lies and lies. Now, y'all don't have to do with that. Y'all do what y'all want. Personally, I don't care. Do what you want. But please don't come over here and tell me what I'm supposed to do. No, no, no, no, no. I've been in ministry for far too long to know how some folk are. And I'm not talking about the world, ladies and gentlemen. I'm talking about so-called professing, itiboshah, kandilisarisa, Christian tongue-talking Christians that were run up and down the aisle and then run you over. So yeah, I don't, I don't, no, no, no, no, no. Anybody can get rid of it. Anybody. Don't lie. At least not a lot. Don't lie, don't lie on me. You better walk circumspect. You better make sure that you say anything about me. You better have proof to back it up. If not, you will see me depending on the severity of the offense because some stuff I don't waste my time with. But this right here, when you have a woman that I know for a fact was innocent and John MacArthur has a history and has a legacy unfortunately of protecting, protecting child abusers, sexual offenders, and wife beaters in his church for 44 plus years. And some of you are getting at me because I recorded a conversation of a brother who lying and who's caping for a man who at one moment a year ago was demanding that he step down. But now in 2023, he's caping and defending him and gives no biblical proof or support for it. Oh, he just changed his mind. That's called being double-minded. That's called being double-minded. And if you don't love your brothers and sisters enough to protect them, then you're not. Because if I know I have the ability and the power to protect a fellow image bearer, whether they are a brother or sister in Christ or not, and I don't, God have mercy on me. God have mercy on me. But you're not going to do that over here with me. So let every last one of you be warned. You lie on me. You try to destroy the ministry that God has given to me. And it's serious enough. Yeah, I'm coming to see you. And that ain't a threat. I'm not talking about with violence. I'm talking about with receipts. Trust and believe that. And you can drop whatever you want. Let me tell you one, let me tell you one person who tried to do that and it backfired on him. Listen, Dore Love. I called him aka Dore Me Faso Latida. Yeah, him from Canada. He tried to twist receipts that he tried to bring on me and he and I had a conversation over the phone. I didn't care about him recording it. So he did a live on me, played the audio and edited it and had it to sound like I was saying something that I didn't. And all I did was played mine in its entirety. And I did it on the same live. Take a while, guess where Dore Me Faso Latida, Dore Love is at. He ain't around. He ain't around. Yeah. And oh, by the way, he got about about 100,000 subscribers. Why everybody come picking on me like I'm Charlie Brown? I'm gonna hold my own. Trust and believe that. Because I know what God has called me to do. But what you're not gonna do is intimidate me. What you're not gonna do on my watch is sin against fellow brothers and sisters in Christ and God has given me the ability to respond and then speak out. Oh, you better believe I am. He better believe I will. Paul also exercised his rights as a Roman citizen. He had dual citizenship. Him being a Jew and at the same time having Roman citizenship, he knew when to pull receipts when he needed to. He told him before he got beat. Hold on. Is it lawful for y'all to put your hands on a Roman citizen? He knew his rights. And that's the problem with some of you Christians. Some of you Christians think that being righteous is not saying anything. That sometimes is un-Christian because Jesus spoke up when he needed to speak up. How do we know that? Because when he spoke in defense of himself, he got punched in the face and he said, if I send bare witness against me, but if I didn't, why did you strike me? I better stop reading your Bible and stop playing. Get your receipt in your Bible game up, especially in 2023. Because folk out here at Negroes ain't playing with you. Some of these people try to kill you over life. You better make sure you have your game up. So without any further to do, we're going to review some of these, these uh, the highlights of the call. I would encourage you to go over there and listen to it again. And again, I don't care if you don't like it. Oh, brother, you shouldn't record. Well, that's your business. Don't lie. Don't cover up. Don't say one thing and then say another. And you got people now being confused. You got people right now in this chat room on my, on my live that don't really care for me. They're confused because of what Corey said. But God help me if I said that. How do you flip? Like a lawn chair one minute last year saying that John McArthur, I'm calling on all reform, the reform community that John McArthur stepped down. He said that a year ago. Now you're talking about you had a knee jerk. What's the knee jerk reaction? Who made your knee jerk, Corey? Who made your knee? Who made your knee jerk, bruh? Who? We're going to find out in the review of these highlights. Let's get it. Hey, listen, you already know what I'm calling. The first thing you should have did was to call me. The title of your video was Corey. I got some questions for you. You should have called me. You emailed me. That's not the same. And you know what? You should have called me if you had any issues. Now here's the thing. Interestingly, why, why didn't they call you? I don't have no issue with you. I just responded to your, your video like you respond to everybody else's videos publicly. Corey, let me ask you a question, bro. Did you call me and ask me about doing the video on John McArthur before you did it? Knowing that I've been going at John McArthur for years, while you was in the shoe, pull up my resume, pull up my receipts. I've been doing John McArthur while you was in Beaumont, bro. And when you came out, you know I was doing John McArthur. So did you contact me? Did you call me? Did you consider how this would look when you did your video? Knowing that I've been doing videos on John McArthur, exposing him, warning people, especially in light of the Julie Roy situation. You've been knowing this, bruh. I mean, you've been knowing this. Stop playing. So why would I need to call you for something that you said that you did publicly? Why? I was under no obligation to call you about something that you said publicly. There was nothing for me to call about. I wasn't confused. I didn't need any clarification. You made your statement clear and I responded. Do I believe I betrayed, do I feel betrayed by him? No, not really. No, no, no. I don't know. I believe he's betraying the church. I believe he's betraying the body of Christ by not being honest, but no, I'm not taking this because it's, I'm, I'm, I don't, I don't, I don't take offense by it. And it ain't about me. It's about people like Eileen Gray and people like Julie Royce, a professional journalist, ladies and gentlemen, this woman is, and this man has now blasted her and saying that he, she has an axe to ground and listen, I'm going to play, I'm going to play the call again. And that way you will hear it better than you did when it was live on the premiere. But, but the interesting thing about this situation is this brother tells him himself, he can't even keep his lies straight or his inconsistencies, so he's been consistently inconsistent. But let me say this as all, let me say this also, it's almost, almost, I forgot to tell y'all this prior to me doing this video, I reached out to a, to a fellow content creator that both Corey and I know, and I contacted this brother and I said to him, I would like for you, if you wouldn't mind being a moderator, being a mediator between Corey and myself, I said, you don't have to go on my channel or, or here's, I, we need to, we need to come on your channel. And we need to deal with this issue publicly. I said, because the world needs to see this, excuse me, particularly in the bite of Christ, they need to see who's wrong about this John MacArthur and, and Julie Royce situation. Who is now flipped in how it's caused confusion because I haven't caused any confusion. The confusion is caused on what Corey did and what Corey has been doing. And Corey has no biblical basis or no biblical buttress to substantiate the flip flop. And for you all to stand there and for you all to moderate for him and for you all to defend him, you're an accomplice to his sentence well too. And those are facts. And for the life of me, how can any Christian, I'm going to say this again, how can any Christian, any professing Christian can defend a pastor like John MacArthur, so-called knowing what John MacArthur has done just to one woman and her children, just, just, just, just one. And some of you haven't even read the court documents and y'all are running your mouth like diarrhea. But for those of us who have read the court documents, for those of us who have seen the reports, for you to sit and tell us that we're wrong for feeling the way that we feel, for you to sit and tell us that we're wrong for trying to hold brother Corey minor accountable for the things that he has said and done and flip flopping and caping for John MacArthur. When just a year ago, this man was demanding the removal of John MacArthur. So, biblically explained to me, bring the cookies down from the top shelf for me and explained to me how. Sway, how do you biblically defend that? Tell me if that was your daughter or if that was your niece or that was your cousin, that was your mother. That was that grace community trip. Oh, I forgot. No skin in the game, right? Yeah. No skin in the game. No skin in the game. No skin in the game. My fault. My fault. So, I shouldn't be passionate. I shouldn't be amped. I shouldn't, I shouldn't feel some kind of way. When I see hypocrisy, when I see duplicity, when I see excuse making, when I see people refusing to be held accountable while trying to hold false teachers and pimp preachers and heretics responsible and accountable. Miss me with the hypocrisy, bro. Miss me with it. Get away from me with that garbage. I'm so sick of y'all with the hypocrisy. And this for you, some of you, for the majority of you, this ain't even about principle. This is about personality. You are now, you are now warring in your own soul about who you're going to follow instead of saying, wait a minute, who is this person representing right now? What is this person saying? Is this person, is this person saying lining up with the scriptures? Or is it because I just like how they break down the H.E.B. and the Greek? Y'all are so drawn to personhood and people and personalities that you are the precepts and principles of the word of God. Shame on you. Repent. Repent. Repent. You in sin. You don't care about Eileen Gray. You all stop caring about that woman when you had to make a decision now and say, oh my gosh, oh man, sacrum and quarry are going at it. No, I'm not going at it. I'm dealing with, I'm dealing with a brother that's in sin who refuses to come up in a mutual on a mutual channel, a mutual channel. Because I reached out to this brother that, that's a mutual friend of ours and a fellow content creator of ours. And I said, Hey, would you be willing to do it? The brother said, yeah, I'll be willing to do it. I said, he said, I'm going to call it right now. He, the brother called brother Corey, he called Corey and told him, Hey, you know, I'm willing to offer my platform for you two brothers to, so we can hash his situation out. This thing is, this thing is getting messy when you resolve it. Whoever the brother said, but he did offer his, his, his channel. I got the text message. Corey declined. He has to ponder it. What is it a ponder? Hmm? What is it a ponder? You want to be pondering if it was, if it was Marcus Rogers or if it was Alex Pagani or Isaiah Saldivar, if they wanted to, if they wanted to pull up a cam up, what, what is it a ponder? People's lives now are in the balance. What is it a ponder? But I know, I know, I know, I know, say, go to bad guys, say goes wrong, say goes mean, say goes this, say goes that, you know, all of that. I know, I know, I know, I know. The anima if I do, the anima if I don't. Right? I get it. I get it. But no, I didn't have to call you Corey. Call you for what? I don't have an issue. So it was no need for me to call you. You didn't call me when you made your videos about John MacArthur caping for him. You didn't call, you didn't consider saying, Hey, you know what, how would this, how would my brother, you know, respond and feel about this if I do this video knowing, knowing, knowing that can cause confusion? Guess we never know, right? You're going to do research on Julie Roy's and whoever else you should have known what I've said. I've got four videos. I've already condemned what they did. Now, do I know for fact everything and will I accept everything that they say? Not necessarily because I've seen enough. You may be absolutely right. As a matter of fact, I haven't said it in the video. Corey, if you've seen enough, then why are you caping for John MacArthur? I'm confused, bro. I'm confused. If you've seen enough of the information and other evidence, then why are you caping for John MacArthur? Why are you defending John MacArthur? I mean, you tell me, brother, because we're, listen, I am confused. I'm confused. Other people are confused. We don't get it. A stinking folk, a stinking people do not get it. So maybe you can explain that. Maybe some of y'all can put some pressure on our brother and say, Hey, brother, you need to explain why you are now defending a pastor that's defending pedophiles and child molesters and white beaters. Help me understand that. Help me understand that. Please. But let's continue. Then you impugned by saying, because I said it wasn't my daughter's. I was making a point. I was making a point, but you give the audience seem to think that I don't care about anybody but my own, but my own daughters. Huh? Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, here's my question. Am I wrong? Was I guilty? Was I at fault? For what's the word he said? I'm making people, I'm making people think that Corey doesn't care about other people's daughters. Am I, am I wrong for that? Is that my fault? Is that my fault? I'm just asking y'all. Is am I, did I, did I force you all to draw the conclusion for yourselves that Corey minor doesn't care for other people's daughters or did Corey minor actually say this? Would you go to Grace Community Church if Eileen Gray was your daughter? Would I go to Grace Community Church? Well, it will see. That's why you can't answer a question because that would affect me personally. Now I've got some skin in the game. It's like the guy that jumped on my daughter or did something to violate my daughter. Could I sit on the bus right beside him? No. Could you? Yes. Why? See, what we do sometimes is we want to make the emotional argument and then that governs. That would be hard for me. I mean, I look at my daughters as though they're gold. Now, do I look at your daughters the same way I look at my daughter? No. There's four billion other daughters on the planet. I don't look at them the same way I look at mine. That's you on tape. So I'll ask again. How did I make people look at you as though you don't care about other people's daughters? Or did you actually say that yourself, Corey? When my girls have company over, I can only speak for myself. I can only speak for myself. When my daughters have company over and they have their friends over and they're driving or excuse me, they're riding in my car and I'm driving. I take personal responsibility for their safety, even the ones that are not my children. You know why? Because I put myself in the mind frame and the mindset that if someone is entrusting me with the care of their child, they've allowed me and trusted me to drive them around. That's called trust. They entrust me to be able to allow them to come over to my house and they're not there and my wife and my daughters are here. They're entrusting us and this family to take care of their child. I have skin in the game because number one, that's a fellow image bearer. Number two, they're under my care. But let me give you a third one. Number three, number three, even if they weren't under my care and I knew that something happened to another image bearer, I am not going to cluck my tongue or just say, oh, well, hey, I mean, it's not my daughter because it'd be different if it was my daughter. Now I have some skin in the game. That was callous. That was irresponsible and Corey, you need to repent. And then you doubled down and tried to, I'm not even, you didn't, you couldn't even clarify it. It was clear as mud, but you didn't clarify it. You doubled down. And then you had the nerve to insult David Collins when he asked you the question. And yet, and yet, to my knowledge, and David, and David is in the chat, if he's still here, this brother has yet to get a response from you, but you call this question an emotional response. How was it an emotional response? Matter of fact, it's nothing wrong with emotion. I'm responding emotionally now because I can only imagine if it were my daughter. But every person that I asked that question to Corey, not one, and I do mean not one, responded to an answer that question the way you did. I mean from Dr. Dennis Swanson on down, not one person, not one. I haven't even asked any women other than to ask them in the chat, but I have yet to, I have yet to interview a sister. I'm going to be interviewing my sister, Michelle McGee in a few days. And I don't know, she's going to probably get turned up because she's from New York. But every man, Corey, every, every man that I asked that same question to, and I framed it in the same way and in the same wording that David Collins had asked that question. And immediately, when I even hesitate, that's absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's like, you don't have to be my daughter for me, you don't have to go there, or let my child go there. But you said, Corey, this. Would you go to Grace Community Church if Eileen Gray was your daughter? Would I go to Grace Community Church? Well, see, that's why you can't answer a question because that would affect me personally. Now I've got some skin in the game. That's you on tape. So fix that, Corey. Just fix that. Just fix that, bro. Instead of trying to excuse it, confess it as being insensitive, confess it as being unloving, confess it as being uncaring, and repent. Just repent. Simple. It's not hard, unless you want to remain prideful. And or that I discourage you from making videos about John McCarthy. We've been talking for a long time. You said that you wanted to come home off the truck and so forth, whatever. And so I said, I made the statement. And to be clear, what I said to you was I said, I wouldn't do that if I would do. I wouldn't do that if I would do. I wouldn't do that if I would do. I said, you need to do some more videos on some Bible studies and things like that. I even told you, I said, what I think you ought to do with your style and so forth, whatever. Make some color commentary about certain political things from a Christian standpoint. Those were the things I said. I wasn't trying to dissuade you from talking about John McCarthy. Listen, make 40 more videos about John McCarthy. I'm telling you, because you did not come home off the truck and try to build that up or whatever, just to go after somebody and only to see if they fail. That was my only issue. Listen, make 100. It doesn't matter to me. I was doing that out of concern for you. We're going to record, I think the concern, it kind of lost itself when I told you clearly, clearly why I was doing what I was doing. And you all over here in the call, just a moment, because he said he never said that. Okay. He said he never said it. No problem. That's why I'm playing the highlights of the call. Because, yeah, you did say it. And context is definitely key. Context is definitely key. And I'm big on context. Big on context. So maybe you can explain one minute why we were having a conversation months ago. Yeah, I told you what my plans were. I told you what I wanted to do. Yeah. And I asked you for advice as far as how to start my channel and things like that, as far as equipment. And I thanked them for that. I mean, I appreciate the information as far as getting the equipment and all that kind of stuff and knowing to go to the Ecamm video channel. I appreciated that. But some stuff I was like, no, I'm gonna do it this way. It's called philosophy. It's called preference. It's called doing things the way that I want to do it. Had no problem with that. But when you told me that I wouldn't do it if I were you, and I'm telling you why I did it, and then you tell me that's not gonna help grow your channel. And I told you it ain't about me trying to grow my channel like that, but I said my channel is growing as a result of this. But it's not because I'm thirst trapping for it. It's just growing slowly because I'm being consistent. I'm trying to steadily put out content versus how I was when I was on my truck putting it out maybe once a week. Now y'all see videos pop up almost every day. But this was on the heels of the Shepherd's conference in March, if you all recall. And I was doing reaction videos. And then after I did reaction videos, I was doing videos following that and giving my commentary on it and highlighting certain things I was in the videos during the conference. But you did say that, brother. I wouldn't do it if I were you. It's not gonna help grow your channel. It's not about that. And I told you it's not about me growing my channel like that. If I need to deal with a person, then it is what it is, whether it grows or not. But that's what the issue came and we'll get back to that in a minute because it's gonna be unpacked a little bit more. Let's continue. And so if I ever had an issue with you, like the last time we had a conversation said, go, the last time you said you was gonna call me because but you was waiting on the internet thing or whatever, which you could have called me anyway. And so I called you back to make sure, hey, no issues. Why y'all think I got an issue? If I got an issue, I'm gonna do just what I'm doing right now. So I'm gonna call you. That's what a man is supposed to do. I'm not saying you're not a man, but I'm saying that's how I do stuff. I'm not gonna sit to say something on the video on camera and not hold myself accountable to that. If I got a problem or misunderstanding or a cause of concern, that's what I'm gonna do. Cory, did you do that with Proverbs? You remember when I told you that Proverbs 17 had an issue with you? And I forgot what it was because it was a couple of them that it had happened between you and him. And it was brought to my attention. I said, well, let me reach out to Cory. And I called you, Cory, because the issue wasn't with me. The issue was with another brother who had an issue with you. And I told Proverbs, I said, Hey, man, I'm gonna holler, I'm gonna holler at Cory. And yeah, this is when y'all had the storm in Dallas and the tornado and everything like that. And so I did tell you, as a matter of fact, in the group chat that we had during that time, people were checking in, making sure that everybody was okay, and nobody heard from you. I think that was the context of the other conversation. Proverbs can tell me if it's true or not, but nobody heard from you. And so people were concerned, particularly Proverbs was. And I'm not really sure what happened prior to that, but there may have been a disagreement between you two brothers or whatever, but he reached out and there was no, there was no word from you. So then you, I guess, then you appeared in the group chat, and then you and Proverbs have some words or whatever like that. And I told you, Cory, ladies and gentlemen, I didn't record that call. It was only if we record that call. That wasn't about an issue with me. But that was between two brothers that I had observed that one brother had an issue with. And so I called Cory, the mature brother. No, no, no job against my brother, Proverbs, but he, Cory claims to be, you know, I'm 50 years old, 50 years old, bro, I'm older than you, but none of us. Anyway, I'm 50 years old. I'm, I don't have to, okay, fine. So I reached out to you, Cory, and told you, Hey man, you need all that Proverbs, bro. What did you tell me, Cory? Hey, man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna call him. I'm gonna call him. I said, man, you need to call him, bro. You need to call him. You need to call him. I said, no, you know, everything gets settled in. You need to call him. And I know I told you that cause I was there when I said it. I called you on a Saturday, Saturday afternoon. Matter of fact, I think me and my wife was going, getting ready to go to the movies and something like that. But nonetheless, I called you and I told you, I said, it may need to reach out to that brother, man. Get something squared away, get an understanding. You told me you were going to call him to my knowledge. And Proverbs, you're in the chat, you can affirm, you can confirm or deny it. You have yet to receive a call from Cory Minor regarding y'all's issue that y'all had and he has, you have to call you. Is that true or not? Just asking. Just asking. Just asking. There it is right there. You never called him, Cory. Based on this brother's testimony, based on what he said, you never called him. And you told me you were going to call him. You told me, Cory, you were going to call him. No, you told me. You said he was going to call him, but he had yet to get a call. And the premise for why I said you needed to call him, I even gave you the scripture, Cory, but here it is right here, ladies and gentlemen, in case you need a verse. Oops, let me go back here. That's my little thing here. There we go. Therefore, if you are presenting your offering at the altar and they remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering there before the altar and go first, be reconciled to your brother and then come and present your offering. That's what the text says right there, Cory. It says it right there. Therefore, if you are presenting your offering at the altar and therefore remember your brother has something against you, so Cory, you knew that there was an issue, bro. You never called this brother. You never called him. You didn't call it, brother. Well, why you didn't call him? I guess you'll explain that one too. Maybe that'd be a better reason why you did versus why you're not doing it now. I don't know, but let's continue. If anyone can say I was caping for somebody, which I'm not caping for John McArthur, I am not. I made my point clear. I'm not going to take Julie Roy's opinion. Do I think she has an ax to grind? Well, first of all, it's not a majority, so you can have an ax to grind and it'd be a good thing. Do I think she does? Yes, she does. Yes, she does. Whether it's good or whether it's wrong, it doesn't matter. Ax to grind. Ax to grind. Definition right here. Definition. An ulterior, often selfish, underlying purpose. Here are some examples. The company was hemorrhaging money, so 700 employees would soon be given the ax. That's a noun. The verb is here. Recent examples of the verb. You see right there, right? But we see the term right here. How it is used? Phrase. An ulterior, often selfish, underlying purpose. But Corey, you said last year that you wouldn't care if Julie Roy's had an ax to grind. Remember you said that, Corey? I mean, which Corey do you want us to believe, dog? I mean, I'm serious. Which one are we supposed to believe right now? I mean, maybe it's just me. If it's just me, if I'm the only one that's striving to be logical, then tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Because, you know, God forbid, if we're to hold people by the same standard we hold in other people too, otherwise we'll be hypocrites. You know, Al, you said, what is the, what is, what's this, the fifth video and what, what, what, what in you want me to look for? Has your wife ever been beaten? You have a wife? You have children? Have your children ever been molested? Huh? Ever? Ever? Has your, has any of your loved ones ever been sexually assaulted by church ministry leaders? And then people that's supposed to be defending you, they flip on you? Or speaking in your defense, they're supposed to, you know, help you and they don't? I'm just asking you, Al. That's, that's, that's what that's the result I'm looking for. I'm looking for people to repair. I'm looking for people to do what's right. Be consistent. You know, loving your neighbor as yourself, that kind of thing. Thanks for asking the question. Appreciate you. Yeah, the same amount of videos he does on tongues and, and Pagani and everybody else. Yeah, that, that amount, that amount. But I'm just, I'm just, I'm just trying to figure out which, which Corey are we supposed to be listening to now? I'm, I'm, I'm lost. I'm lost. I, I, I am lost because I just don't, don't get it. I do not get it. You're basically flipping on people and the people that you're flipping on, their theology is supposed to, I'm sorry to laugh, but I'm, I'm laughing because I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm coming to this conclusion. The people whose theology that you're flipping on is supposed to be better than the theology and the discernment of those that y'all are talking about on your channel, Corey. How is it that tongue talkers and demon slayers have more morals than you? When it comes to the abused? When it comes to the oppressed? Make that make sense to me, Corey. How, how, how are those, how are people like Pagani and Saldivar? How, how are those people, how would, how could they be upset and ready to ride out on people that they knew were being abused, knowing little children were being abused? Let me, let me, let me bring it down to your level. Cause you, you, you're in a six-figure club now. You're in a, you're in a six-figure club. So how is it that people like Ruslan can still be upset and bothered by the caping and by the cover-ups of Grace Community Church and John MacArthur, but yet you're caping for them now. Make that make sense to me, Corey. I'm confused. Oh, I know. I forgot. Cause you said it in your video the other day, you don't care about person's life. You only care about their doctrine. So forget about 1st Timothy 416. Watch your life and doctrine. Your, your, your life and your lips are supposed to be in tandem to what you preach and what you do, but you're only concerned about people's doctrine. Yup. Smells phariseic to me. I wasn't trying to sway you from doing video about John MacArthur something before I could do a video. I don't, I don't, I don't impugn you on my channel. I don't bring you up because I got your phone. The same thing with, with, with, with Proverb 17. He had an issue. So I was up early morning when my moderator was telling me about him. I said, well, let me, I'm gonna call him because he may not be up. Let me just text. So what does he do? He makes it public. That ain't, that ain't grown man stuff. That's just not, he could have just simply texted me back, but it's almost like people are after the drama. I'm not having drama. I could make some drama. I'm not trying to. I don't see the point in that. So the hypocrisy on your party is you didn't call them, you text them, but I emailed you and you still got a problem with me commenting or contacting you via email. You got the email. You got some kind of correspondence and you do respond to email, you respond to text too, but you didn't, you didn't, you didn't call the brother, but okay. I'm not, I can say Corey. I don't know. Maybe just me. So I'm just making my, my feelings known. So, which I think you should have done the same thing. You should have called me. You sent me an email. I saw the email later. No, I'm not going to respond to the first one. I'm not, I'm not coming on for the drama anyway, but two, you should have called me. You could have called me. I don't check my emails until I just happened to look at something else on my email for a guest that's coming on. I just had to look at that and I saw that. What, wait a minute. I'm not, I'm not do, no, no. So it didn't seem like it was genuine. So, brother, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm saying that. This whole, all these other little innuendos and, and, and things that you said, me caping for him and, and that he's my idol and I felt a certain way about him because I got a Bible in prison and so forth. And yeah, okay. I mean, I don't know what you want to tell you about that one, Corey. I mean, you the one that brought the Bible, you the one that talked about how you felt when you first got the Bible and stuff. I mean, and then you don't, you don't, you don't think my email was genuine. I did not know that the fourth person of the Trinity lived in Dallas and had a prison history. Didn't know that. They lied about. I didn't know that. I did not know that. Wow. I learned something new every day. Who would have thunk it? Corey, you, uh, Prophet says, Corey has never called or texted me until the J-Mac video weeks later. He texted me privately to address my public comments on John MacArthur. I in turn answered publicly. But there you go, Corey. There you go. All new Jesus, you said, you seem like you have been waiting for Corey to make a mistake and when he did, your guns came out blazing with you, shielded behind BCB. Leave the little room for God to, um, um, all need Jesus. I'm not really sure. This is my first time. Welcome, if it is. Where you getting your intel from to make this statement? Where you getting information from? Please tell me. Please tell me because you don't know how long I've been waiting and I don't, I don't wait for opportunities for people to make a mistake. Again, this is not about a mistake. This is about a blatant disregard for another human being. That's what this has to do with. And if you can't see that, I pray that the Lord will open your eyes before you continue making other statements you can't back up. But let's continue. Are you trying to give me the belief that you had my best interest at heart and you was trying to do that? Did I make this personal, Corey? Because this wasn't about me. Who was it about? It's about me. No, no. It wasn't about me. It wasn't about me. It was about you making false accusations regarding Julia Roy. And you to say that right now, what is the act you got against this woman? Why haven't you done your You said, you said, Corey, I think I said, I think what's the, Corey, what's the act you got against this woman? Say 40 something dog on, uh, uh, what's named? Is she doing anybody else like that? No, 40 something dog on, uh, what's named? Is she doing anybody else like that? No, 40 something dog on, uh, what's names? Is she doing anybody else like that? No, Corey, so you haven't done your research there. I don't care about doing my research. I don't care about doing my research. I don't care about doing my research. Corey, Corey, Corey, Corey, Corey, Corey. If you had on your channel, listen, I said it before, I'll say it again. I'll say it again. You should have been focusing more on the Bible studies, stuff like that. Did you talk about doing? I said, you don't let folks know that you, that you can work your way around the scriptures or whatever. That's not the conversation we had, Corey, two weeks ago and you know it. We've been, Corey, Corey, we've been talking about that, Corey, hold on, Corey, I'll let you finish. Let me talk about, please. You called me up one day, one Saturday morning, you and your wife, and you's asking about, about doing. Corey, that was not the recent conversation that you and I had, brother, and you know that. You missed your point, they called, whenever I say something about your channel, it ain't, it ain't just the way you from doing something. Corey, the conversation that you and I had two weeks ago, not months ago, not even last month ago. I'm talking about two weeks ago, you and I had a conversation and you and I had, had, we were discussing, I forget, we were discussing my channel and I asked you this question and tell the truth, Corey. I said, what you got going on today? And you told me about some, something you're going to be working on. I said, okay. I said, I'm about to work on, about the, finish doing this MacArthur thing, about do it. And you said, why are you doing that? I said, because I'm, I'm going to be dealing with this MacArthur thing. I just dealt with the Shepherd's conference. Man, I wouldn't do that for you. I said, why not? Because I can help grow your channel. And I said, I'm not doing it to grow, to grow the channel, Corey. I'm doing this for the people that's being affected by this man's ministry. You remember me saying that? No, what you told me was you told me, you said it is growing your channel. It is growing your channel. That is not what I said, Corey. Exactly what you said. That is not, Corey. No, no, you said it was not growing my channel. And the context of what I was saying that was, I didn't say the word grow your channel. You did say grow the channel, Corey. I said it's not growing my channel. Did y'all hear that? But you want me to play that part again? Let me just ask you. He says, not going to help your channel out. Okay. Full power. Not going to grow your channel. Not going to help your channel out. Is it, is it still the same? Is it still the same? Just asking. If you're like me, you play that section back, I can play it back. But he says it right there. He says it right there. So why are you telling people you didn't say it? You did say it. You did say it. So who's, who's misrepresenting and taking people's words out of context? I'm confused. Why did you make the video? I'm just curious. Why did you make the video? Because other folks here, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Y'all seen the thing. No, no, no, no, no. Don't say y'all, Corey. I'm asking you. I'm not y'all. I'm asking you. I'm asking you. Me. I'm answering you. I'm answering you. I mean, let me answer my way. All y'all seen the thing that if I make the video and make statements, it must be about y'all. What are you thinking about? What are you thinking about? What's not thinking about you? What's not thinking about you? All I did was I was covering it. Now, why did I make it? Because if not, if no other reason, because I wanted to. For no other reason, because he wanted to. Okay. So you did it because you wanted to. I told you what I was going to do. You're telling me I shouldn't do it, because it wouldn't help my channel. Okay. How did I twist your words? I'm going to mention my own word. I said, once he gets finished, I'm not going on live. I'm not going to be in a chat. I'm not going to do anything else for you. All I'm going to do, all I'm going to do is to give him a call, express my opinion. Because even in this, even in this, and I'm going to go ahead and let it go, whatever, even in this, you didn't ask about anything else other than, you didn't ask me to, can you clarify the issue which you said about your daughters? Everybody else got it except a couple people. David Collins, he ain't paying attention. David Collins, he ain't paying attention. David Collins, he ain't paying attention. So you dragged this man, he ain't paying attention, but the person who wasn't paying attention was you, because he asked the question and you refused to answer it. And then when you did answer it, you just missed his brother's question, as though it was irrelevant. Not a good look for a person to claim to be a pastor or wants to be one, still. So if anyone thinks that I'm still, what you put caping for John McCartney, got the GCC on my church? That's fine. I'm not caping for anybody. So you don't think you're defending John McCartney? They're just asking, seriously. I gave him a defense and I gave him a critique. No, no, no, no, no. You don't think that John McArthur's in sin right now, right? I said, listen, and I've said before I told them, so maybe you ought to start watching what I'm saying. No, no, I didn't, Cory, if I didn't watch the video, Cory, if I didn't watch, Cory, if I didn't watch, Cory, Cory, you say that you're not upset, but why can't I talk? I'll let you talk. I called you to tell you something. Oh, so it's not a dialogue, it's just you monologuing. You had three hours. So basically you just want me to shut up and listen, right? Did you ask me a question? Yeah, I did, just now. I did, just now. I did. And so I'm asking the question, is he in sin? And I'll tell you what I told everybody else. In order for him to be in sin now, does it look bad? I said so, I condemned that now. Is it possible? Because I know of a situation. I know of a situation that's eerily similar to this and come to find out. I'm not saying that I'm not saying it's the same thing with this lady. I'm not. I just know, as a matter of fact, I know a lot of you, okay, as well, just like this. And so I said, you know what, I have decided, I have decided to err on the side of caution, because if he's wrong, if he's in sin, yes, who's going to deal with him? If he's right, and I'm on him, guess who's going to deal with me? That's been my whole point. And so to say he's in sin, well, I'm not going to do what they call offer impeachment evidence, which is to impeach everybody that's associated and work my way down. That's what they do legally. And so I'm not going to do that and apply that to John McCarthy. I said it could be, it could be that he's as wrong and in sin, or it could be that what he is, he's beholden to a particular leader or group of men. It could be that, it could be that they've got a system in place and they want to be beholden of that and the system is not working or maybe it works most of the time. And because it works most of the time, then when people fall through the cracks, they don't blame the people, they blame the people, not the system, it could be a lot of different things. And so this is just me. I don't throw folks out until I have definitive proof. And my definitive proof ain't dependent on what you think the definitive proof is. Cory. I stated that I thought the man was wrong before. Cory, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, you still answered the question, bro. I mean, I, I just said it. No. I said, I'm not, I'm not saying he's in sin. I said, if he knows, if, if this, if that, so, so, I said if this, if that, that he's in sin, but there also could be some other things. And so for me, which I'm about me, then I'm not, I'm not going that far. I said before, I'm going to give you the benefit of that. I'm going to give you the benefit of that until I, until I can't. So ladies and gentlemen, did he answer the question? Is that the same, is that the same, is that the same position that he had in 2022? I'm just curious. Is that the same position that Cory had in 2022 when he demanded John McArthur to step down, when he, you know, told people that, when he told people that they need to, you know, not only does John McArthur need to, need to step down, but all of the leaders and the elders, he said that. Y'all remember that? I remember it. I remember it. I remember it very, very clearly, very clearly. This guy, this guy made it so clear last year that no one had to ask him to clarify his point. But now in 2023, this guy can't even give you a clear answer. Like you heard in the call, you just heard in the call, asked him a clear question. And he, him and Han and all this kind of stuff, he reminded me. You want him to do you so much you could do anything? Yeah. This guy, this little man is clear and more concise in what he's trying to say than what Cory is. And he's a grown man. Cory, you're a grown man. Grown man. I mean, help me understand why you couldn't answer this simple question. But you have everybody that's now following you confused and thinking that I'm the one that's just walking around here, sewing this cord, stirring up strife and all I'm doing is hold you to the same standard. You've been holding everybody else in the moment, Cory. Stop the cap, bro. Stop the cap. Now, so, so, so, so, so, have you, have you read? Have you read? I have read some stuff. No, I didn't say some. Did you read, did you read Han Cho's article? I read Han Cho's thing. The story you read, the entire story? Yeah, I read. Yeah, I did. I did. I read the other guy's stuff too as well. I've read and heard from some other people who are on the other side. Who's the other side? Who's the other side? I'm not doing any of this. I'm not doing any of this. I'm not doing any of this. I'm not doing any of this. Okay. All right. Okay. All right. So, basically, you haven't done your homework. You haven't done your work. Okay. No problem. That's fine. Take up. You haven't, Cory, Cory, you haven't. You, if you, if you, if you're going to sit here and tell me if you're going, and that's why I said you caping for him. And I don't mean no apologies for that. You didn't do your homework on me. Cory, I did. That's why there's a video. In response to what you said. That's why there's a video. In response to what you said. That's why there's a video. In response to what you said. I'm not arguing with you, brother. I'm not arguing with you. We disagreeing. I mean, that's what it is, bro. You caped for a man. Okay. Okay. This woman. Bro, but I got the facts, though. But I got the facts, though. But I got the facts, though. Okay. So do me a solid, Cory. What's the sin? What's the sin that she's committed against McGrath because she made 47? I didn't say she committed a sin. You said the woman, you said the woman hasn't, you messed up. That's an accusation, Cory. Cory, stop. Stop, Cory. Stop. You've been a semantic, bro. You've been a semantic. You said the woman has, you said the woman has an ax to grind. Then you said, with the scriptures talking about it, you must publicly repent. And you didn't get one scripture. Cory, you didn't give no, I didn't get scripture. Listen, listen, listen. Listen, my man, the conversation's over. I called you. No problem. No problem. You didn't call me. You didn't have me and you didn't need to call me. Okay. All right. So we'll leave it at that. All right, bro. Take it up. Now, in case we forgot what Mr. Minor said, okay. In case we forgot what Mr. Minor said, when he said, he never said that she was in sin and never said that her ax to grind was, was sin. Okay. That's what he said. Maybe he forgot what he said here. Are you trying to give me the belief that you had my best interest at heart and you was trying to do that? Did I, did I, did I make this personal Cory? Cause this wasn't about me. No, no, it wasn't about me. It wasn't about me. It was about you making false accusations regarding Julia Roy. And you just said it right now, what is the ax you got against this woman? Why haven't you done your action against her? I said, I said, I said, Cory, what's the ax you got against this woman? The sake of forty something dog on was named. Is she doing anybody else like that? No, forty something dog on was named. Is she doing anybody else like that? No, forty something dog on was named. Is she doing anybody else like that? No, so, have you, have you read? No, I didn't say something. Did you read Han Cho's article? I read Han Cho's thing. You read the entire story? Yeah, I did. I read the other guy's stuff too as well. I've read and heard from some other people who are on the other side. What's the other side? I'm a doonety. I'm a doonety. I'm a doonety. I'm a doonety. Alright, so bitch, you haven't done your homework. You haven't done your work. Okay, no problem. That's fine. Take up. You haven't, Cory. Cory, you haven't. If you're going to sit here and tell me, and that's why I said you're caping for him. I don't mean no apologies for that. You're caping for her. You didn't do your homework on me. Cory, I did. That's why I did the video. In response to what you said. That's why I did the video. In response to what you said. That's why I did the video. In response to what you said. Man, that's fine. This is like, I'm not about to have this argument through. I'm not arguing with you brother. I'm not arguing with you. You disagreeing. That's what it is, bro. You caped for a man. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You came for this woman. Bro, but I got the facts, though. But I got the facts, though. But I got the facts, though. Okay, so do me a solid, Cory. What's the scene? What's the scene that she's committed against McGrath? Because she made 47... I didn't say she committed a sin. You said the woman hasn't... You messed up. That's an accusation, Cory. Pay attention. I said it's not a sin. Cory, stop. Stop, Cory. Stop. You being semantic, bro. You being semantic. You said the woman has... You said the woman hasn't asked to grind. Then you said... Listen, just like he was playing semantic with the scriptures talking about it. You must publicly repent. And you didn't give one scripture. Cory, you didn't give one scripture. I did give scripture. Listen, I understand. Listen, my man, the conversation's over. I called you. No problem? You didn't call me. You didn't call me. Okay. You didn't have me and you didn't need to call me. Okay. All right. All right, bro. Take care. Now, ladies and gentlemen, in case you wanted to know who the other side is, we all know who the other side is. The other side is the mob. The other side is protestia. You know, the same people who had lied, the same people who J.D. Hall was responsible for the suicide of a little boy. Yeah. The same protestia who lied and tried to set up service Christie because he was exposing Justin Peters. And oh, by the way, he recorded the conversation too. And thank God people like service Christie, he knows his recidology as well. All you gotta do is go to service Christie's channel and you can pull up J.D. Hall, I believe versus J.D. Hall. That's the other side that Cory is referring to. There's no other side other than that side. So in case you all wanted to know if your boy has been compromised. Yes, he's been compromised. Yes, he's been compromised. Yes, you're dealing with a sellout. And that's why I exposed it and exposed him because he's being fake. He's being hypocrite and he's being a fraud. That's why. That's why. Now, good luck. If you all get a biblical reason why he is defending John MacArthur. Again, once again, a man who has been protecting and financing pedophiles, child molesters and wife beaters. That is who Cory Minor is now caping for. He is the caped crusader for John MacArthur. Now, y'all can follow him if y'all want. You can follow him right here. You can answer to God for that. But even even people like, I mean, it's funny. It's funny to me. Justin Peters, Chris Roseboro, Phil Johnson, all called J.D. Hall and protestia yellow journalism. Look it up. And this is who this is who Cory Minor now is caping and defending for. This is who this is the other side that he's reading their reports. This is the same protestia that said that, that, that, that Han show is lying. But y'all, but y'all want to, y'all want to go to his channel and have Bible study. Okay. Go right ahead. Because again, remember, all he cares about is doctrine. He doesn't care about devotion to your fellow man and to your neighbor. You know, the whole second greatest commandment, you know, the Matthew 22, 37, 39 thing. Yeah. Yeah. You know that. Yeah. But I'm done. Ladies and gentlemen, just wanted to have this Q and A and replay highlights of the call. If you want to hear the call without any interruption, first of all, you know, God bless you, but listen to it with an objective ear. Get past this. Oh, why he recorded the conversation. I think I proved my point. Why? I think I proved my point. Why? Because when we have people who lie and protect wickedness, they must be exposed. And my Bible tells me I'm to be shrewd and be wise as a serpent. Yeah. I brother, I'm praying for that too. I'm praying for biblical reconciliation and biblical reconciliation can only come by confession and repentance. And Corey got a lot of confessing repenting to do, but it just goes to show y'all ladies and gentlemen, having quote unquote sound doctrine means nothing. If you don't love the way that Christ commands us to loving our neighbor as ourselves. Paul says this. Can I, can I go there? Can I close out the scriptures with, with one, one verse, one, one, one passage. Thank you very much. Let's, let's go to, let's go to the word of God and, and, and let's close this out. Shall we? First Corinthians chapter 13. If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love. I become a noisy gong or a clanging symbol. If I have the gift of prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge. And if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love. I am nothing. And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor and if I surrender my body to be burned, but if I do not have love, it profits me nothing. Love is patient. Love is kind. Love is not jealous. Does not brag. It is not arrogant. Does not act unbecomingly. Does not seek its own. Does not provoke. Does not take into account a wrong suffer. It means you do not harbor resentment. It will in your heart. It does not mean that you don't keep receipts. Otherwise, what are we doing? What are we going to do with debate on the seed of Christ when God himself has receipts? Well, that's God. He also tells us to do it as well, too. Does not take into account a wrong suffer. Does not rejoice in unrighteousness. That's what happens when you are defending people like MacArthur. You're rejoicing in unrighteousness, participating in it as well. But rejoices in the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, puts the best spin on things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails. Can I make it more personal? If I have 100 plus thousand subscribers, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I have over 6,800 subscribers, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I know the HEB, that is the Hebrew and the Greek, but do not have love for my brother, for my sister, I am nothing. If I have all the bells and the whistles in my studio, if I have all the lights and all the trinkets and all the little niceties to make my channel successful, but do not have love for my fellow neighbor, for my brothers and sisters, I am nothing. We need to check our love meter, ladies and gentlemen, because love protects. And that's what I'm doing. And you don't have to like the way I protect, but what you cannot charge me with is sin for loving my neighbor as I would want to be loved. And I have the proof, the proof is in the pudding. I have people like the Eileen Grace, who personally thank me for doing what I do. They don't call Cory Minor. They've seen, they've seen his videos. They've seen his retraction and his moonwalking back statements. So let me go to this poll that's suggested. I'm not impressed and neither am I surprised. But here's the poll. After hearing the conversation between Cory and between, excuse me, between Seiko and Cory, who's telling the truth about John MacArthur and Julie Royce? 45% says me, 55% says Cory. Take a wild guess who y'all think the 55% represents. Take a wild guess who y'all think the 55% represents. Yeah, I'm not surprised you, the brother. I'm not surprised he's liberated truth. I'm not surprised at all. And notice also, these are some of the same people who gave the answer before they even saw the video. Doesn't that fall in line with Proverbs 1813? He gives an answer before they hear their fool. Cory got a lot of fools in this chat. Got a lot of fools. It's calling what it is. It's calling what it is. I want that as well too, sis. I just want him to find compassion for all children. I can't understand his inability to clear this up. I do. It's pride. It's pride. In a nutshell, it is pride. It's refusing to admit that he's wrong. Yeah, I'm not surprised, bro. It's still them. It's still themop. I mean, it's still themop. It doesn't matter. I mean, but I just did it just to gauge and see how people are thinking. That's all. But it's all good. It shows you where people's heart is though, right? It shows you what people's heart is. Yeah, the majority is seldom correct. It's the majority that murdered the Messiah. It was the majority that murdered Emmett Till. Yeah. But it's also the majority that shows you where people's hearts are when it comes to the truth. So anyway, I am done, brothers and sisters. Thank you so much for joining here tonight. I do appreciate it. Again, please like, subscribe, and share this video. We do appreciate your support in that regard. Let people know about this channel. Let people know about these two particular videos, the premiere of the call, and then also the Q&A of this stream as well, too. We do appreciate that. If you want to support the Ministry of Finance, you can do so by clicking the donation link below. Or as you see it tick across the screen, you can do that as well by supporting the ministry. BCV Merchandise, you can support it by clicking the link below at the bottom of the video and go to the BCV store. We have the merchandise and items there for your review and for your pleasure. We do thank you all for that so much. Tomorrow I will be back, Lord Willen, hopefully. I'm going to respond to his video that he did this past weekend. Unless the Lord alters and pivots my steps, that would be the plan. Saco, how long are you going to be doing this? Don't know. Don't know. Don't know. I had no intention on doing what I was doing until he kept lying about what he said. I guess I hold people accountable and responsible for the things that they say, regardless of who they are. Yes, let's pray for those at the Allen Mall in Texas in Allen, Texas. Please look up the families and those who have been affected by this, those who loved ones have died. Please pray for these families that God's comfort and grace will overwhelm them in a supernatural way. This could even imagine how that would feel. Could not imagine at all. But nonetheless, we do ask for God's grace and comfort and prayers in that as well. But anyway, no, brother, thank you so much. Thank you, man. John, thank you for the comments in the chats, too, brother. I do appreciate it, man. Thank you for holding it down and holding people responsible for their words and challenging them to think biblically as well, too. Yeah, I know 50 videos is required, a minimum, huh? But anyway, I'm done for tonight, you all. Thank you so much for joining me. You all have a great evening. Have a blessed week, those who I may not see, but y'all know the drill. Whatever you do, do all the glory and honor of God. God bless.