 Welcome to JSA TV live coming to you today from the floor of data cloud global Congress here in Monte Carlo in Monaco, and I'm Barb Mitchell joining you from JSA and joining me is Kim Gunaile as Managing director newly appointed managing director for verin global welcome. It's great to see you again. Oh Thank you very much. Great to be here Barb Nice to be interviewed on different Locations around the world. Yes, and we always we I think we follow you around the world So it's nice. It's a pleasure. Since last we spoke you've taken on a new role as managing director. Tell us about that That's correct. So I'm now running verin global's operations in Finland So last year we sold Ficcolo, which has now been rebranded to verin global. We have Date centers in Iceland and London as well as the Finnish operations that are now running So congratulations. So you're Responsibly much growing bigger and bigger and you're expanding and there's been you know, so much success that we've been able to watch you with and and so I'm curious just to sort of jump right into one of our topics today I think we wanted to talk about with the increasing adoption of things like AI and Performance computing and people are really wanting to find environmental ways to manage these massive workloads that that come from this Talk about that and you sort of your thoughts on that Sure, that's that's really a hot topic for us now. So first of all the Amounts of the data keep growing. They're really huge and for us in Finland We've had a little bit of success in that area but now with the kind of the bigger group we're able to Access shall we say bigger opportunities? So I think there's these huge cases out there that are looking for where to deploy and when People are thinking about where to put the big workloads the Nordics come to mind because of the good access of the green energy and As well as the climate so you need less power for cooling. So it's a really great place to to take your workloads Yeah, well and on that topic I Think you maybe had another thought there so we can come back to it But I wanted to just made me think of you know, and I think I believe correct myth I'm wrong here, but that Finland by 2030 will represent 10% of the EU's green hydrogen energy. Is that correct? That's a stated target. Yes. Yes, and that's a really ambitious target because it's just getting started and The things that are driving the green hydrogen are The big amounts of wind power coming online So last year was the biggest year yet for wind power increasing in Finland and it's gonna continue to grow and The challenge of course with wind power is that it's intermittent. So it's not It's not always windy So that's where the green hydrogen comes in. So The green hydrogen is able to exploit the power, you know when it's windy and kind of store it The other option would be batteries But green hydrogen is good there and then on the green hydrogen side There's a lot of other stuff happening in the whole ecosystem. So it's really starting to become viable now and Finland is super well positioned to exploit that over time. Yeah, you've You've been ahead of the curve for a while, haven't you? I know that I Like to drop in our conversations how you're a best-selling author that you were part of greener data that launched last year and we're working on round two, I believe but You know, I think sustainability has always been at the core of your message and and what you You know what you stand for and With good reason. Absolutely so We've been certified climate neutral already for several years. So That means that we're we're kind of way ahead of the pack where you've got these other Companies doing packs and thinking about how to get there. We're already there. So what we like to think about is how can you be carbon-negative even and Bring in, you know, work on the ecosystem on being more sustainable Bring in all of the employees to think about what we could do to be more sustainable and things like that and You know from from the perspective of a data center, you can't really find a more sustainable location than the Nordics With with the access to the green power is mentioned, right? So what else what's what's next on the horizon for you? I mean, it's sort of feels like one thing after another but what's next yeah So if we talk about Finland specifically We have been working a lot with three different segments enterprise Hyperscale as well as high-performance computing and now Learning a little bit shall we say from from Iceland where they've got quite a lot of success with high-performance computing and talking to for instance financial sector about those Opportunities that's where I think We're gonna go and what we're gonna do is Look at growth within Finland. So look at look at new sites But very global of course is looking more at becoming a leader in the Nordics. So so Expanding in Finland will be an integral part of that, right? Great. Well, we look forward to to hearing more and you know, I think of we're Still have quite a bit of this week left So for those people that are watching this live and may want to connect with you How can they reach you or if they've missed you, you know this week? How can they they find you after this event is over? Sure. So go to vernglobal.com. There's also a section for Finland Finland dot vernglobal.com. So They can find you there. Yep, and we'll see you again I think in another country in a couple of weeks and we'll probably talk again It's always a pleasure to catch up with you. Thank you and congratulations again And thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV live today coming to you from data cloud global Congress in Monaco until next time