 The Lorne Jean Chronoscope, a television journal of the important issues of the hour, brought to you every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. A presentation of the Lorne Jean Wittner Watch Company, maker of Lorne Jean, the world's most honored watch, and Wittner, distinguished companion to the world-honored Lorne Jean. Good evening. This is Frank Knight. May I introduce our co-editors for this evening? Mr. William Bradford Huey, noted author and analyst and editor-in-chief of the Lorne Jean Chronoscope, and Colonel Elson Talbert, an editor of the New York Herald Tribune. Our distinguished guest for this evening is Mr. Miles J. Lane, United States attorney. Mr. Lane, you, of course, are now one of the most famous crime fighters in the United States since your office has handled the Hiss case, the Frank Costello case, the Remington case, the Rosenberg case, so I'm sure that our viewers would like you to tell us something about these cases tonight, sir. Now, first of all, the Rosenberg case, where this man and his wife were facing electrocution. Just what is the crime for which the Rosenbergs were convicted? Well, they were convicted for conspiring to violate the espionage laws in the United States, in that they had inspired to, among other things, to turn over the secrets of the atom bomb to the Soviet Union. And both this man and his wife are now facing electrocution, unless the president intercedes. Is that correct, sir? That's correct. Now, I'm wondering if the Rosenbergs have given the government any help since their conviction, or given any indication that they would like to help the government in uncovering other Soviet spies? To this moment, the Rosenbergs have not cooperated at all. They've given us no information, and they've been very adamant as far as cooperation is concerned. Could they save their lives if they talk? Well, let me say this. I think that the American government is quite reasonable, and if they were to cooperate to the fullest extent, I'm quite sure that that would be taken into consideration with respect to what might happen to them in the future. Well, now, with all of your experience with them and in the trial, sir, do you have any theories as to why they have refused to give the government any information at all? Well, I'm certain from what I've seen of them that they are died-in-wool communists, and that they are completely devoted to the Soviet Union, and to them, it's more or less of a cause, and they probably believe that they are modest to a cause or something of that effect. Now, do you think that it's terribly important that our government force them to talk or else execute them? Well, you put that question rather an odd way. I think it's very important to this government that we take a firm attitude, not only towards the Rosenbergs, but towards anybody that conspires in any way to overthrow this country or to commit acts of espionage against it. You think that perhaps it might have some effect on future cases if these people do not talk on how much information we might get out of future cases? Well, I think it will have a direct bearing upon future cases if we don't take a very firm attitude. Now, could you illustrate for our viewers just how extensive was their knowledge about some of our secret activities? During the course of the trial, there was testimony that the Rosenbergs had information respecting such things as our fire control system, atomic energy for airplanes. They also had some knowledge of this rocket that was in contemplation at one time called the Sky Platform, which was a huge rocket, which was to be centered to space and hell there and through a system of electronics, it could come down and destroy a city. They also had information as it was developed at the trial, respecting our fire control and our underwater detection of submarines. Then it isn't true, sir, that they were very small fish. A great many Americans, I'm sure, are wondering if they weren't inconsequential people. From your experience, that is not true. They were relatively high up in the apparatus. Well, I don't know just how high up they were, but I think that the Rosenbergs were very important in the apparatus or one of the apparatuses. Now, you've just secured the conviction of William Remington, I believe, for a crime somewhat similar to the crime of Alger Hiss, isn't that correct, Mr. Lane? Both Hiss and Remington were convicted for perjury, and one of the counts upon which Remington was convicted was for having given over secret or classified information to a representative of the Communist Party, who was also a Soviet courier. Hiss was convicted for perjury and denying that he had ever given over any information or classified a secret information from the State Department to, I believe, what it could chamber. So in both instances, although they were both Remington and Hiss, were convicted for perjury, it was perjury for lying, in effect, when they were asked whether or not they had given over any classified information to others outside of the government department. Well, there's no doubt about the fact that both of these men were members of this apparatus, which you've just described, is there? No, well, I wouldn't say that. They certainly knew people who were communists, but whether or not they actually members of the Communist Party, it's difficult to say. Remington, of course, was also convicted for having lied when he said that he had no knowledge of the Young Communist League at Dartmouth, and in the course of the trial, we developed that he had many contacts with communists, and he attended Communist Party meetings and so forth. Well, incidentally, that Young Communist League at Dartmouth, sir, and ejected a rather human note in the trial, I believe, you are an alumnus of Dartmouth, aren't you? Well, I happened to be the president of the General Alumni at Dartmouth, and naturally with so many Dartmouth men being needled and ribbed a little bit, respecting the fact that they were communists at Dartmouth in the late 30s, I was most anxious that Remington be convicted not only because I felt he was guilty, but also because of the fact that I was a Dartmouth man and as the prosecutor of Remington, I don't think it hurt the college too much to have a Dartmouth man put Remington away. Would you say that you had the full support of the Dartmouth alumni in this matter? I would say without fear of contradiction that I had the 100% support of every Dartmouth alumnus in existence. Well, sir, I'm sure that I would expect to hear from you the latest report on the Costello case. What's Costello doing now? Well, Costello was convicted, as you know, for contempt of the Senate, and he is now in Milan prison. Yesterday, we started an action against him in connection with a lien on his income taxes for roughly $480,000, and we also have the naturalization case against him in the office, which should come on for hearing a trial in the not too distant future. Well, in all of this very interesting experience that you've had, sir, the one that's in the news most tonight is the waterfront situation in New York. Now, can you give our viewers outside of New York some indication of how extensive graft is on the waterfront? Well, we have had, as you know, there are several, there's a state crime commission working here on the waterfront and doing an excellent job, and I have had a grand jury working for the past 10 months, and that has done a magnificent job also. In the course of their deliberations and probings, we have found extensive evidence, rather evidence of extensive corruption and kickbacks and all that sort of thing. And does this corruption affect every American family in some way, would you say? In view of the fact that New York is the greatest port in the world and the commerce of New York, way out of the distances that of any other, I would say that the corruption and the kickbacks and all that sort of thing in New York City affects the life of every single American, and I think it is of particular interest to every housewife in America because the graft and the kickbacks will affect the price of every commodity that's being used by every family in the United States. Mr. Lane, you've prosecuted successfully gangsters, communists and racketeers. I'm wondering what you think is the nation's greatest menace. Well, if I were to pick out any one thing as the greatest menace that this nation faces is the complacency of a lot of our citizens. I mean, I think the American public is sufficiently intelligent, probably the most intelligent public in the world, and I have all the confidence in the world in it. However, I think that we've got to realize that it's time for us to accept the responsibilities as citizens, and by that I mean this, that we should have more people interested in doing jury duty and also taking an interest in parent teachers' clubs and taking a very intense interest in the future of the younger people of the country. Well, as a final question, Mr. Lane, a great deal has been written and said about the part that labor unions may have had to do with the waterfront scandals. Now, are you going to expect to get the cooperation of the American Federation of Labor in the investigations? Oh, I think the American Federation has shown that it's with us 100%. I don't think that labor itself is at fault a bit. I think labor in labor, they have a few unscrupulous leaders, but management also has a few in its ranks. Now, I have every confidence in labor, and I'm sure the American Federation of Labor will do everything it can to cleanse itself of the wrong elements. Well, thank you, sir, for being with us this evening. Thank you. The opinions that you've heard our speakers express tonight have been entirely their own. The editorial board for this edition of the Lawn Sheen Chronoscope was Mr. William Bradford Huey and Colonel Alcel Talbert. Our distinguished guest was Mr. Miles J. Lane, United States Attorney. Lawn Sheen is a superior watch in every respect. In fact, it's one of the finest watches made anywhere in the world. Yet Lawn Sheen isn't a class by itself. 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