 The meeting of the finance committee will come to order at 9 o'clock on March 29 in the first floor meeting room in Town Hall. And today's agenda is continuing with award articles and our positions. So I think I'd like to go over first what we're going to cover. I have to leave at 9.35 and Janice is going to take over. That's why I know she's coming. And some of these we're going to put off till next Thursday. The zoning ones we'll put off till next Thursday and invite Chris to come. But today, let's see, I'm not the one to do. Okay, we can do today articles one. Well, that looks like one and two. And then we can do the assessment method for the regional schools. Believe we have all the information for CPA, correct? Yep. Okay. And the bond authorization articles we could probably vote today. That's my guilt roots here. Okay. Okay. We can, I think do the coal access, growth park, the easement in South Hadley and the abandoned water line. And then there are several that I just put out there and I'm not sure that they are finance committee issues. The recycling committee, the agriculture committee, those are memberships they want to change, but they're not financial. But we can decide that as a group. And then the last two are petition articles on noise, nuclear war, and the Paris climate agreement. But for net, did you get your warrant? Did you bring your warrant? The draft ones. So anyway, so for next week we would put off all, we would do all the zoning next week, which is that energy, marijuana, supplemental zoning, the demolition zoning, and so forth. And the exclusionary zoning. Okay. So the first thing though, we will start with Wilkin Morey, who has some, what are, what? We can do the borrowing, the two borrowing ones. And I'm talking about the easements. Oh, okay. And the abandonment and the property in Harlow if you want to. Sure. Why don't we do those and then you don't have to go back. That would be great. Not that he might. Good to see you. Good to see you. You're long visiting with us. Stay with us. Did you just review which ones are going? Okay. And we'll just go through them as we go. So what's the... Absolutely, yeah. You have the trailer of them. Why don't you do the two borrowing ones first? Okay. Where are they on the sheet? Back of the grid. Back of the grid that we just received this morning. And they are the ones... Well, actually I can do all three of them. Okay. Transportation law enforcement, no. So the transportation fund. So we've been pushing and developing a project to re-ave and redo the sidewalks for the parking lot right here in front of you. Open up the windows at parking lot. We're coming to... We pretty much got the plan set. The only thing that's going to change is what's going to happen in the common. And so what's going to happen is they're going to design the common. We call that the North Common. They're going to design the North Common and improve it to the North Common and then put the two together as one project. So the authorization will pay for the parking lot only and then it'll be the common project repeat. Separately funded, but the two projects will be actually constructed at the same time. CPA funds. That's right. The CPA funds are part of the North Common, right? Right. Or all of it. I think it's all of it. Oh, okay. Good. So there's been a couple projects that have gone through this community preservation committee. And they've been voted. And the money's sitting there waiting for the project. They want to do the parking lot and sidewalks at the same time. And this money would be to accomplish the parking lot and sidewalks. Great. So the goal is that they're going to stage in the parking lot, do the common work, and then as they pull out, they'll finish repaving, repairing the parking lot so it won't be pulled out and be done at one time. There won't be two projects. You've presented some of this before. I mean, kind of in the initial stages where people were thinking about what we would do there. Yes. Okay. Any questions on this item? Would you like to vote on this now? Is that clear enough to vote on it? Or are you going to have further discussion, which would be next week? What? Okay. Looks like it's good. All right. Then all in favor of this, it's $400,000. $400,000. $400,000. Where? $400,000. Transportation? It's on the list in the back. I know. I have $400,000. Oh, is that how we must pay all the version? May I have one of those please? Okay. Thank you. So we're voting a second chance in bailing. That's okay. I realize it. And that's not a problem. We'll move with it. Okay. A motion for 450. Yes. May I clarify one thing? Sure. So is there an extra allocation going on for sidewalks compared to previous years? In the capital plan, I think they're interested. So this is obviously not the capital plan. This is part of the capital plan, but it's solely for this parking lot. In the capital plan, there is a group of miners. So is this part of your long-term plan that showed up this is the time for it? Well, it was actually scheduled two years ago, and it kept getting pushed off because it got linked to the North Common. Okay. And the North Common, is this one right out in front? Yeah. I think a lot of times we think of it as North Amherst, but it's really right out in front. The South Common, North Common, I understand. Right. Okay. Well, I didn't in the past. So. Janice. Is this a finance committee article? That's what it says on the left side. It's probably. It's probably. It's probably. I know. I see this finance committee. What? Oh, it's. Oh, is it? Oh, it's assigned to the finance committee. I'll clarify that. I'm pretty sure it is. We can ask a promotion or anything. Sure. Okay. Just when we say barring, where are we barring this from? Or how are we barring this from? The bank. Just, okay. It'll be paid from transportation funds. Transportation funds. Okay. But hasn't that money already been allocated there? We don't have like a transportation fund. What you saying earlier that this money has been sort of already allocated? Well, CAA funds have been allocated for the North Common part. Oh, okay. And how many, how much is that? How much of that? Is it like 380 and 4? Yeah, it's close to 700. It's close to 800,000. Okay. So if this costs 450,000, I'm just missing that. So why can't we use those funds to cover this 450? Because community preservation funds are restricted for use. Okay. So how much of those can we use to go towards this? None of them. None of them. Okay. That's why we're borrowing. That's why we're borrowing. Okay. So we have to borrow. Okay. And this will probably get, we probably have a bunch. We've got more borrowers. So I'll get rolled up on one note. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. All right. Do I hear a motion? Great question. To put for this article 450,000. Is there a second? All right. Second. Any further discussion? Okay. All in favor? Six. Zero one absence. Okay. The next one is the water fund. So we have an old water line which runs down North Hampton Road, which starts itself Pleasant Street. It runs down this, the old part of the line stops somewhere around Pre University Drive. But this line is a six inch and eight inch water line. It goes, so it goes from six inches, eight inches, six inches, eight inches. We have a lot of problem on this line. It's old. It's got a lot of tuberculation in it, which is just rust inside the line. We get a lot of dirty water calls. So we've been planning to replace this line. Mass Highway is coming in to repay North Hampton Road. So we're trying to match up our water line work to go with their paving work. So that's what we're trying to do. So the goal is to replace the six and eights with a 12 inch line which runs from South Pleasant Street all the way down to U Drive. And that will be the new backbone for that section of town and improve the water quality. And we're estimating it's about $2 million worth of work. Okay. So this is similar to what you did on Pine Street when they had to go in and redo those lines Yes. Other questions with Guilford for the $2 million water fund? I think this is coming out of the water fund. It's coming out of the taxation factor. Yes. And Mass Highway cut the subsidized part of this? Well Mass Highway is going to be paving the road. They're going to pay. Okay. So they do that part. Right. So all we have to really put in is we have to pay for the water line that goes in and a little bit of patching and all the other stuff that's done by Mass Highway. Okay. And when do you estimate this? I was just told by the town manager it's getting moved to 2020 or yeah 2020 right now. So we were thinking it was going to be next year. Okay. So next year? We thought it was but it's going to 2020. Over paving 2020? Yes. But we're going to start this before then. We'll probably do some of this before then but the majority of it will be done during the construction of the road. Okay. Do, Eric there are further questions. Do I hear a motion for this article? A second? Second. Okay. All in favor or further questions? Okay. All in favor? Okay. 601. Okay. The next one. So we often talk about we need to upgrade our wastewater treatment plant and we're waiting for some more information on our permits before we actually decide how to do it. But we have one key piece of equipment which is the gravity belt thickener. It's gravity. It's gravity there. No, it's gravity. That's my fault. It's just discussions. It's called the gravity belt thickener. And what it does is it takes the sludge from the process and it gets the water out. It takes the water out, condenses it down to more solids so that we dispose of solids. We're not paying the ship liquid and solids off to be disposed of. So we pay about anywhere from $450,000 to $500,000 to get rid of this sludge. So if you add more water to it, your cost of disposal goes up. So this machine, which has been in place for about 20 years now, is at the end of its life. We need to replace it. We're going to set this machine up next to the current machine, so we'll have two. The new one will be a primary and the older one will be the secondary. Technically, we're supposed to have two means of the condensing our sludge. We actually do have two means, but no one has started the second means in 20-plus years, so we're not really sure it works. Second means? Secondary means, yeah. That's going to be a secondary way of condensing your sludge. Sludge condensation? That's a technique. Yeah, condensing. So that's what this machine is for. And it really is a million dollars, which kind of blew me away. We have to do some piping to connect it into the system, but the machine is a million dollars. And all it does is, if you want to come see it, we'll show it to you. But the liquid sludge comes out on one end, flows across the belt and has some wedges which push on it. The belt also has some horses that pull on it. So water's pulled through the belt. The solids are left on top. Yeah. And basically, even in material, it looks like... Philly buddy. Right. We're just a picture. You are. I'm really excited about that. He's going to edit that out. Basically, it's not taco Tuesday. So basically, it looks like taco meat when it comes out the other end. It's that consistency of dryness, but it's still moist. It's cheaper to haul and get rid of. Yes. It's liquidy when it comes out the first part, but you're definitely getting rid of a lot. You can see the water is going out and going back into the process. So it's very important. Joe, what do you estimate sort of the break-even on this? So you spend a million dollars on this machine. What have you guys forecasted? What's the break-even point in terms of where you start to save that money? So actually, if we were to not, if we were not to condense our sludge, we basically would double our hauling cost. So instead of saying four to fifty-five hundred, we could be paying about a million dollars. Wow. That's per year? Per year. So in two years, a machine will pay towards that. Okay. Honorary. So, okay. Maybe I've asked this before, but I guess I need the re-education. So these machines, at some point the maintenance cost probably goes up. So the older machine, for example, what are the maintenance costs on it? Well, the problem we're having with the older machine right now is that it's worn to a point where we actually have to start replacing some key components on it. So the rods that hold the wedges on it and there's a couple of other things we need to replace. So we've just always seen is, we've probably spent twice what our normal budget is in the last two years on that machine. On that machine. So how much would that be? It's about $40,000 to $50,000 a year that we're spending right now. And if you make that investment, it doesn't work well? It works, but it doesn't work as long as it used to. The machine used to work, the machine used to be taken down only twice a year for maintenance and now we sometimes take it down for four times a year to five times a year to actually adjust things and put things back together. Well, I'm thinking a million dollar machine, the financing cost of that would be about $50,000 a period of five percent per year. So you are, on the new machine, you're going to be spending $50,000 a year anyway on all the net costs that's going to go away. So I'm just kind of curious about, you know, you are doing all these, because you have only a certain number of dollars and you have all these machines that require replacement and maintenance and stuff. At what point do you decide that we can't, it's no use owning this machine anymore. Is it going to send it off? Can you send it off in the secondary market? Is it possible? Is there a price for it? Will somebody buy it? No, there's no salvage value for the old machine. Okay. So just to clarify, the old machine is going to still need to be made. The old machine will still be there and still be the backup. So like five times a year, you're going to have to do maintenance on it? Well, now because you'll be using the new machine. What are you anticipating for maintenance on it? It's about 20,000 years working with maintenance. Okay. I don't remember how much we have like in reserve in the sewer fund. Is there any that could go toward this to save money? I don't have a balance with me. Probably on the budget. I just did the 1.6 is on it. So you've been doing the transportation, water and sewer funds on a rug? Yeah, I just sent those to you. Okay. Would you please do the write-up on these three also? Which ones? The ones we're talking about right now. There has to be a write-up for them also. For which ones? The ones we're just voting on. For these ones? If you're doing them anyway for the report under the budget would you please do these as part of their separate articles? Would you please? Sure. I'm going to get the minutes from Shannon. That's fine. Thank you. So sewer fund. Do you know what it is? It's 2.491. Okay. I don't want to use any of that for this purchase. I'm just trying to see if we're using any surplus funds for anything else this year. No. Okay. Further questions? Okay. Are you ready to go around this one? Okay. Do I hear a motion? So moved. Second? Okay. Any questions? All in favor? 6-0-1. All right. So Onarag will do those three. The parking lot, the water main, and the gravity belt thickener. Okay. What are your other ones? The east ones are basically mine. Coles access. Public access easement. Is that the acquisition of easements at the bottom? Can you come up next to the last two or mine? Oh, yes. Okay. Acquisition of easements. Okay. And then the abandoning the water line. Yeah. Those are ours. All right. Do you want to present? I'll start at the bottom. All right. So the water line abandonment in the human neighborhood, there was a water line I suppose it cut and go under the railroad and come back up on Henry Street to connect and maybe be a possible way to have the water recirculation so that there wasn't a dead end water line within the pavement. That never came to fruition because actually going into the railroad tracks is very hard and very expensive. So there's an easement there but there doesn't need to be an easement. The property owner who lives there needs to build a little more on to his house but because the easement is there he has to stay off the easement. If we aren't planning to use the easement he asks if we would abandon the easement so he can actually enlarge his house and that's why we're requesting to abandon it that's being requested by a property owner because we're not using it. And the future will never be used? It will never be used. Okay. Any questions of Jennifer? There's no money involved in this? No money involved. Do I hear a motion? So move. That's second. Further questions? All in favor of this article? Are you on with this? 601. Go for the next one. In the neighborhood of Harlow and Rolling Ridge there is a paper street that was left when the subdivision was developed. The paper street goes from Harlow over to Rolling Ridge. There's a sewer line underneath the paper street and then there's a drain line. The people who own the paper street have said they're never going to make it into a road and the town doesn't plan to make it into a road. But the owner of the property would like to transfer it to the town and it can become part of whatever it can be later transferred to conservation for a conservation trail or it can just be a town property which is part of a sidewalk between the two neighborhoods. So the authorization to be able to allow the select board to accept those two pieces of property is a gift. They're only 50 feet wide and they're about 150 feet long both of the properties. So and there's just a trail that goes between the two neighborhoods and like I said there's a sewer line underneath it and a drain line underneath it. Was this part of that? Some years ago some years ago a road that was going to connect east and is it east and north pleasant? No it's not. It only connects the two neighborhoods. Okay. That's at the end of Hortley? No it's not. It's across the street? No it's not. Oh. I thought I said you look like an apple. That field right? No it's not. Where is that? I knew you were doing these that would have brought more stuff. What's a paper road? Is that just a drone? You see it on the map? I think you've seen it. You see it on the map but when you get there it's not there. I've just never heard that term. I just saw that the other day. The paper streets. Paper rail? The fee symbol on a rail. Well Harlow is the North Amherst neighborhood. Right. It's the North Amherst neighborhood. This little section goes north south it doesn't go east to west. Oh okay. That's probably in better ways. Oh I know then where that is. I don't know where Harlow is. It's what we call Jonesville years ago. It was a subdivision up there. It's up in your neighborhood isn't it? On a rug? Harlow and Is Rolling Ridge on both the west and east sides of East Pleasant? No. It's in there. I'm sure I followed what you asked me. Okay. It's Harlow Drive up where you live. Yeah it's right there. That used to be a whole area was developed by the Jones neighborhood. Yeah the Jones neighborhood. Oh I see Harlow. And then it goes over to Rolling. There's a paper road between Harlow and Rolling Ridge which is is that north of them? Is it on the west side of the beach? So for the other side of the beach street? I live right there. Okay. Okay. Makes sense on Rocky. And the Hartman. So this is Harlow. This is Rolling Ridge. This is Hartman. And there's these two little parcels. That's what we're taking. It doesn't go, it doesn't make some grandiose path to go to UMass or anything. It's really small. Alright. Back to that. So do I hear a motion for this argument? There's no money involved. Do I hear a second? Second. Is there further discussion of this argument? I'm sorry, can I just, I'm messing with it. So you're taking these for right away from the town? We're taking them to the town property, yes. It's being given to us. It's being given to us. It's being given to us. It's being given to you. Because a lot of people from that neighborhood come down here this way and walk. Are you going to pave it? Or are you going to leave it like that? Okay. It's going to be paper. Paper? Okay. I hear no further questions. All in favor of this article. Please raise your hands. Okay. 6-0-4-2-1. If we weren't adverse to it, we would issue the taking just to make sure it turns. Okay. So the other article is a group of fuckies taking for different road projects. I'll just kind of talk about them so they don't have the drawings with me. One of them is the West Bay Road sidewalk project which town meeting people from Applewood came for and asked for a sidewalk several time meetings ago. We've designed a sidewalk. There does need to be some takings. There needs to be a taking from Applewood. There needs to be a taking from Eric Karl Museum and Hampshire College Taken. And these takings are to just extend the layout of the road a little bit so that the sidewalk can fit within, can fit. All the property owners know about it. Everything is working out okay. There is, at this time, no money involved. And like I say, like I always say, money does become involved and it's a substantial amount of money. So it comes back to the well, it comes back to town meeting for appropriation. So this is not a blank check for me to go spend anything I want anything I want to spend. It's like it's already beaten that into me pretty well. So the, you need to take um property, easement on Eric Karl Hampshire College and Applewood. This is for the West Bay Road sidewalk project. The other projects are we have a project which is going to be on Gulchtown Road and this is a project which is going very fast so we don't have all the details worked out but we're going to have to take some properties between Southeast Street and Stanley Street so we have room for a sidewalk that has to be according to Mass DOT who's hopefully going to pay for the road work in the project we have to have a sidewalk on both sides of the road so we will end up having to take little pieces along that whole section. So that's what that one's for there is um there's five so there's um there's one on Main Street the one for Main Street is actually a oops, we actually refit Main Street in front of the woman's club and the boys club and we put a sidewalk on private property and the owners are okay with that but we just didn't go through the process of taking care of all the paperwork at the time so this allows a slight board to go ahead and accept these as gifts and take care of the paperwork and tie up the titles and get everything squared away there's one for East Pleasant Street which is at the Village Parks Apartments we need to take property from Village Park Apartments and the property from UMass to upgrade the bus shelters there we're going to put a bus shelter and a pull off on the west side of East Pleasant Street and on the east side of East Pleasant Street we're also going to run the sidewalk from Village Park to Olympia Drive so we're slowly we're slowly working on extending the sidewalk off East Pleasant Street and we're improving the sidewalk the bus pull offs doesn't go along so that's what that one is okay would you say take property just to be clear it becomes the town property yes some of it will become permanent town property some of it will become temporary town property it will be property we're allowed to work on to disturb and then we have to put it back and get it back to the front homeowner when would you have to do that when you have to turn that back to the homeowner it's once the project's over okay gosh there's one more is that the coal access no it's um it's a little actually a little I did West Bay Road you did Belcher Town East Hadley Road oh East Hadley Road is the last one so East Hadley Road from West Street to the entrance to the last apartment complex which is South Point there's a project that we're working on which is going to widen the sidewalk and make it 10 feet wide for a multi-use path and because it's the sidewalk is getting wider we need to take property from the boulders and from the Mill Valley entrance as for a right away issue so that's what these are all for we've talked to all the property owners and all these except for the Belcher Town Road one no one has seen that one we don't really know what that is yet so um but these are all to take easements and like I said if there's a substantial amount of money needed to take one of these easements it has to come back to how much has to be appropriated for the taking we should have no difficulty though out by Applewood since they want this Applewood is fine there might be a little issue with some Hampshire College issues well that could be in lieu of taxes there could be there's something else going on isn't there always I don't know what it is the in lieu of taxes if you're going to take property and it gives them the bad edge there has to be some equal value there so you dance those things around again I know people are allergic to the term taking but in each of these there should be a taking and pay the landowner a dollar so clearly in the title there's no problem in the future but that's too complicated for some consideration yeah in line with that I was just again getting back to kind of in line with what I was saying so someone when you give that land back you let's say put down the sidewalk and you give that back to the property what happens to the property owner says you don't want to take part of your summer can they just do that anything that's a temporary easement is usually only needed for during construction so if we need to move a machine to the back side of the sidewalk to access something we need an easement to put the machine on their property if we need to rebuild the sidewalk when we raise the sidewalk up two feet we need to regrade their property that's a temporary easement for regrading so those are the things we're doing so it's not like when it's done the piece we give back is where the sidewalk is piece is just their property that has to be taken okay I didn't understand okay thank you that's a good question and these are a mix of temporary easements temporary easements temporary easements any other questions do I hear a motion so moved okay all in favor on the similar questions all in favor okay six where is that one I'm kind of hoping this might show up one night like nine fifty where are you 65 start the article is it on the sheet just finish it oh here we go six two where's the gopher just my budget stuff oh well we've done that we're through with we voted that that's good okay thank you for coming you're welcome I hope I helped thanks excellent there's just a couple I'd like to do before I go because I'm working on them the regional school district assessment method is what was in the draft award I checked that with Sean so I would like you've read it it's for one year only because the committee could not decide a permanent one that we could open the agreement and vote on it to make it part of the agreement so we didn't have to do this every year but we don't know the long term financial implications of this particular formula that they've come up with so this is for one year and they've adjusted their budget around this so do I hear a motion to accept this method second okay any further discussion it's the one that's in the draft award yes I double-checked that with him okay all in favor after that it'll be the Constance problem let's say yes okay and then the other one oh that we have up here the acceptance of optional tax exemption this is this allows you have it on the table in front of you this allows some personal exemptions that the state put into that the town put into effect 19 something 1996 or so it's in your award it's the first item or no I'm sorry it's the third item oh this this are we talking about this and so the the town let's see I believe it's 31 thousand seven hundred twelve dollars it came into effect in 1994 so do I hear this has been ongoing this is what we do every year and David Verges gave us the updated numbers is there any question about this can I just clarify one thing I understand the surviving spouse it's elderly it's elderly blind it's elderly blind yes it's just not elderly by itself it's connected to piece of paper is there an age for elderly well I asked the fire department that there is there is because when their dispatchers go out they say a child but I don't know what it is and I'm not even going to say because I may fall in that category so it says limited income elderly so you know we could ask David Verges but it does include that and then blind persons veterans and surviving spouses I assume that veterans and surviving spouses go together so this is an extension for what exactly it reduces their property taxes surviving spouse surviving spouse of military or surviving spouse generally it looks as though it's the surviving spouse of military only military how did you see that these are all separate you were saying elderly blind I'm not blind with a different category surviving spouse military that's a different category hmm do we have what you're looking at as well this came out this has been in the finance committee booklet for a number of years and we've just repeated it and David Verges looked at it and he said that was correct alright let's post do you want to postpone that vote no I don't want to postpone that I trust the town is doing the right thing I'm just kind of inquiring seniors are 70 okay the exemption I apologize I should remember this stuff but I'm done seniors are 17 for exemptions of the clause 1770Z 17 and a half or 17D um and this says elderly or blind persons okay let's wait until next week to vote on that since we're not sure okay in the meantime I'm going to turn this over to Janice and we will do zoning next week and we're planning to end at 10 so that anything left over we will do next Thursday are we finished with the warrant article part well we can, you can vote other things yeah vote other things Sonya can guide you through that so we're I don't have numbers for questions and I probably won't have numbers but it won't there won't be any numbers in the warrant I'm waiting until the last minute okay we can, I'll talk to you about that so you know but those eventually so all we need to re-vote the death number that's why it's highlighted now so the region death came in a little lower so we were able to bring the death down the original number we voted on was $2,209,960 it is now $2,187,844 and why did you say that went down in the region 60 feet down a little lower than expected return of death so all in favor I guess someone needs to make a motion that would be mine I'm not very good at anything second second and more discussion okay all in favor so it's $5,400 those are the right numbers for CPA I gave you the reports last week mm-hmm I have a question about that so the CPA packet when he came the Epstein land purchase was included in the main number but it's separate here is that because it's a land purchase it has to be a two-thirds boat so we have to break it out a little more so the general CPA projects will be part A in $955,645 so we have two parts mm-hmm there's actually three parts but the debt is always part of the general fund debt so if you were to total a sub you'd have to add the debt number to it to get the actual approved projects because debt is always what it is town-leading CPAs included in that and the funding source is from the CPA fund for that portion of the debt so we don't have to vote on that part you just did included in that okay so we just have to vote on A and B are people ready to do that I have just one quick question just to be clear, sorry I missed that so the $113,000 is going towards the purchase of the land any more questions it's not the zero motion on part A for $955,645 the general CPA projects so moved second all in favor $502,000 we have the CPA for $113,000 of land purchase total is $270,000 so moved second discussion on the paper Q so the one at the bottom of the page is the CPA recision of bond authorization for coal property this is brought before the CPA last year where we were going to purchase a portion of the coal property but things changed and they built a subdivision there and now they're donating a piece of land for the town management to get to the trails and that borrowing authorization is no longer needed so we need to resend this authorization and it has to be done by a town meeting in order to go away so it's just a housekeeping item basically there's no one involved it's just the authorization okay so is there any any more questions for the discussion okay someone want to make a motion second one favor two yes that's an easy one and then I the capital on that side this is just for the cash capital portion of the capital articles we need to see the capital plan and there's a lot more projects listed on here but some are grant funded some are some are grant funded and again all the borrowing is embedded in the service right so this is just for the cash portion of the article we heard about these last week yes I should say tax supported portion so cash only so it's a the amount there's a part for equipment and a part for buildings and facilities right so if you look these pages aren't number on here but it's a third page bottom of the page for equipment tax total tax supported equipment $8.769.25 that's the number you're going to go from here is there anything this is page 2 bottom of the page bottom of the page so do I have a motion for that first number $8.75 $8.75 $9.25 favor that's $5.00 $2.00 and that will be the buildings and facilities part $2 million $7,064 so this is on the back it's probably down in two parts part for building and part for facilities so it's $5.55 for buildings and $1 million $4.49, $3.64 for facilities which includes roads and stuff so this is just the total of those two any further questions we did also last week maybe we could put that second favor $5.02 do we have a bundle for your station that was over the $3.00 we just did those oh that's a title okay anything else well there's just the first did you fall on boards in Canada what was that like in Canada Canada we did unpaid bills 99.9% sure that would be dismissed do we go down the anyway do we go down those first two anyway yeah this agent doesn't get missing to tell you so I don't I'll have to go back I'm looking to see what he did last year so we can move we can work before the town meeting we can meet right we've done that before so what did you do last year voted to dismiss it but we have to I guess know for sure closer to the time that no bills were alive yeah you did vote budget amendments last year without a number in it if you look at the client's community book because I won't come into play until the motion but actually the numbers are there but they're just someplace else right no no no because you have like the control accounts or they're in the general government section until they get moved this is moving funds from if they're savings and police and health insurance I'm going to move it from public safety to general government so these are like last minute things it looks like you've always voted just a sum of money but they're already they've already been appropriately in some other place there's a salary reserves that get allocated yeah but that's all part of this we don't know that until but it's not more than the amount the total amount we've already seen it can be it will never add money to it unless it's like part B and part C where we're adding money to a reserve fund transfer if we decide to go forward that way we would take money from free cash or surplus overlay surplus which is what we've done in the past but moving money between the funds is usually just spending a sum of money and it can be different money at zero it just goes back and forth between the between the functional apparatus which is general government public safety and community services but it's not like taking it out of free cash or anything it's just you've already been not part A so we essentially could vote on that if we wanted to do it are you even wise to wait at this point we can just wait until just before the time meeting before I would think yeah for all of us shouldn't require a lot of time before time meeting yeah we can have all the information then right in front of them right at the table works for me it's just the write up we're going to a little art room there we can just be right then in front of the time meeting slice it up anything else just as I'm starting to get the hang of this thing it's going away it's going away it's going away 60% there I mean this stuff I've been here 7 years I'm done I got to say it all yeah so did we cover all of those send them to you I know there's a lot more article added for in order for voting for the charter I'm not sure what it's called because the charter passed we'll have to be a special election in November or something so that article is getting added to the warrant but I don't know finance committee needs to have any action on that at all would it matter I'm also assuming that that was included in the charter's budget that we did bump up some numbers for we did not I don't believe we did because we didn't count on the vote happening either way anything else I think that's it news affecting the budget got us far at this moment so let's go to policy and unused municipal property that was on report that we had to hand out last week I'm not sure what she wanted to discuss on that that was is there a committee looking at the property that we were told that the town managers here said that they were forming a committee to look at buildings, property and use for them or to sell them I have to check with him and report back next week committee liaison reports for dbw fire we don't have a meeting date yet set up this is I know so I got an e-mail from Kay Moran waiting for developments for onsite possibilities completed fire station feasibility study will let you know when a meeting is scheduled so that's your report okay thank you minutes of previous meeting I think Tim sent up minutes but I didn't have a I don't know if anybody else has so we'll wait on that I did post the other one so that's up to date anything else anything I got to just clarify on the sheets this dark green on the side here this is basically for me but it's just letting me know this and to be printed for that so I've received those write-ups and they've been sent in to be put into that finance company that's my figure okay so I don't know if we are meeting next Thursday or not not today but next weekend one meeting a day is fine so next Thursday bye anything else I have five minutes in my parking woo what time four minutes and ten seconds