 Thank you very much for now, and I have to apologize for I've let I think most of our speakers kind of go on a little longer than The allotted time but so my apologies to to the audience for for not leaving as much time for our discussion at the end as I would like But we are going to move towards towards that last phase of the program And it's my great pleasure to have Mohammed Baharun now give his observations. Thank you very much. I'll try to get to the seven minutes mark. Hopefully First of all, thank you very much for having me and welcome to all of our people who traveled a long way to be here in the UAE To be part of this discussion The title of discussion and this is a sort of a warning. I think we've here is the Middle East in the next five months That's one few months. That was the title Middle East warning nothing about this region is region everything is global and I think we've just heard that so there's always global implications of everything and Five months we've already or sorry for a few months. We've already here that a month ago Things could have changed and I think this could stay but let me talk about does as an example and this is When it comes to the operation, it's a local operation. We've got Israeli troops and the They're all conducting an operation in Gaza, which is an occupied land even though it autonomous So it's a local war Supposedly, but there's also a lot of regional fears and we've heard the fear about Iran or its proxy being involved and this war could spill out and that's one of those fears But there are also international realities and part of the international realities is that there's about 40,000 American troops assembled in the region and we've got Warships from the US from the UK from France from Greece in in the region and We've also here calls to turn the international coalition against ISIS to fight Hamas So there is a reality here that this is already internationalized We're afraid of regionalizing it But in reality it is internationalized and that is going to affect us Now if we want to talk about the what could happen in the few next months And I think the current progress of the operation and we've seen to the extent how many times The ground operation has been either delayed or changed over the week can tell us that this is going to be a lengthy operation and With that length of time will come casualties and people That casualty of people people would have an impact not only regionally, but also Internationally also the objectives of the military which is eliminating Hamas is You know the very difficult to say at this point of time we can call this mission a success mission accomplished It is very difficult to draw lines on when that mission has been accomplished again. That would draw a lot of time and would also affect The casualties But also there is this concept of those bridges of cooperation that we have been building is now regressing So we've already seen the impact on countries like Turkey Already mentioned countries like Egypt has been warning that if people have been driven into Gaza an Operation across the border screen to Israel a response from the Israeli could take us back to the time when there is war You know we're going back to the 1973 so Those bridges of cooperation are now being hugely challenged and what it tells us that this the clock in this region is ticking backwards We're looking backwards when the terrorist organization that was considered a terrorist organization today It's very difficult to discriminate it from the Palestinian people And you can see people going out in the streets calling for free Palestine. No one says down to Hamas So that area that between what is right and what is wrong And it's not because of the virtue of what Hamas did it's because of the virtue of the reaction to Hamas and I think the concept of International law when it comes to wars come to mind, but it's the sheer Understanding is that what do you do for peace and I think this is the role of the armed struggle I think is coming back and Hamas is possibly now in the same position where PLO used to be during the Munich attack and You know, this is now people are saying again that this is Isis is different from Hamas because Isis has occupied land but Hamas did not occupy land It is occupied those type of You know comparisons are now becoming common ground which hasn't been two months ago or three months ago and What we've here several times here and I think As Excellency Fahmi was talking about the national identity This is going back to become an identity conflict and unfortunately, it's not a nation based It's a religious identity. It's a Jewish identity and it's it's quite, you know Difficult when you see for instance secretary Blinken coming to Israel after the attack and say I'm Jewish I know what he's doing, but for the First of the world what they see is that this is now turning into a Jewish Muslim's conflict And that is a very difficult position to be in because it will bring back all of those identity conflicts that we have seen In the past so if you want to look not only to the next few months because it's you know Really very limited. What are the long-term impact in the next few years? So I think one of we've here is that the traction of the of the West of the global West in front of the expansion of the global South It's not the north versus the south. It's the south versus the west and we've here this very clearly before And I think this is a reality if you look at the Pattern of voting in the UN. This is quite obvious And I think we shouldn't be slipping into that type when whatever is always connected to international community To international norm can be just looked at as this is just the Western norms And it does not apply all the time. It applies in certain times. I mean people would say You want Iran not to intervene, but the US is already intervening on the ground and that's contradictory in when it comes to principles and We're also looking at the rise of the middle powers Middle power states are now taking lead because the international leadership is not being Regarded as something that is going to take us somewhere And it's quite interesting to see for instance countries like Saudi Arabia or the UAE celebrating the G77 over the G7 Because they see that the future of the world order is to the middle and small powers organizing together galvanizing a position together But there is still opportunities and I think one of those opportunities is is Is the analogy Volcker made on the what happened after 1973? Which is the piece because any war Any war conducted is is a tool it is not an objective and the objective of any war is peace So how could we peace be looked at and in this so I think one of the major concepts that we can see today Is that there is a failure of the concept of security at gunpoint? Weapons do not buy security Security concept is changing. We have seen this here in the UAE after COVID-19 We've seen that with all of the military mind that you might have it's not going to stop your people from dying And we realize that walls is not going to buy security. It is roads that will create security I don't think that this is a concept that has been seen inside Israel today as we see it here in this region I think Hamas is in a position to do exactly what the PLO did at a certain point of time Exactly what the Houthis did recently is turn from a resistance group into a state And I think this is where we need an investment is statehood the statehood not only of the Palestinian state But also the statehood of Israel because Israel is our partner in peace Hamas was not our partner in peace, but at this point of time It is difficult to have partner in peace who does not do their due share when it comes to peace and I Think I'll stop there. I might say something later on about what Iran could be looking at but I'll stop there. I Really appreciate you pointing out the fault lines That are associated with this conflict that extend To different regions not only this region, but to other parts of the world. It was interesting to me how you Set up a an opposition between the West and the South in this case when we talk about what is the rest when we talk about the The West versus the rest we've had that located in China and Russia We've had it located now in the South that presumed the global South you're referring to there by and by that probably emerging nations I also found it interesting your reference to Iran and it's the contrast with the United States I mean Iran of course has its proxies in the region. So they're not official forces, but I found that interesting parallel But I you know we are going to be coming back to this