 Hello folks we join Roger Chang and in the middle of taking his virus Briggs personality test if you would like more on this Subscribe to our patreon and get the full rss feed We can hear more of his answers on envy and whether he hates other people You would rather see your child grow up kind and smart Yeah, but if you're kind I had to think of your child when I answered I I don't know because I want my kid to be nice But you know being nice and stupid means you can get taken advantage of that's what the question How far are you through it? You do not let other people influence your actions Disagree slightly your dreams tend to focus on real-world events totally disagree especially with Django Being the head of a media empire in my dream Like I literally literally mean dreams or like your dreams as in aspirations Well, I basically dreamt of talking dog people. No, I ruled the world But both are dreamt of talking animals in my experience Yeah, but mine walked in but mine was your dog and she was in a like business outfit sitting at a desk. That was no dream Veronica dreamed of talking bears Was it the Charmin commercial because those are talking bears No That's how we describe care bears now So just imagine the bear from the Charmin commercial with tattoos on their stomachs Should we get started? Yeah, we can start early hiding Roger. You keep taking your tests and let us know what you've watched We can bring them back during the bot discussion. Yeah, totally. All right. Here we go three two Hey, you yeah, you do you want to help out the Daily Tech news show? Well, it's really easy. Just go to Daily Tech news show comm slash support and find out how This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday June 6 2017 I'm Tom Merritt Veronica Belmont on a Tuesday. How's it feel on a Tuesday? It's weird. It's weird. It's totally weird It's also weird because your Wi-Fi is out where you had so we have to only have voice I am tethering right now. So we'll see how this goes. Yeah But thank you for your persistence. I appreciate it always never the less she persisted Nevertheless Veronica persisted in doing the show a little bit of a different show, especially in the fall in the wake I should say not fall out that the wake of WWDC Different kind of news day. So we'll get a bot take from Veronica and we got a bunch of fan mail I'm gonna call it a fan mail Tuesday, even though that's not an alliteration But let's start with a few tech things you should know The Omen X compact desktop is HP's backpack PC designed to be used for virtual reality And it comes with a dock. So when it's not on your back, you can use it like a regular computer In fact, they sell it without the backpack attachment. It starts at $2,499 and if you want to put it in a backpack, then you got to pay an extra $600 both those are coming in July Would you do this? No No backpack VR for Veronica without VR though, that is literally true. Yes Google release an update to its Pixel phones that says quote should address many of the freezing issues that have been reported The over-the-air update should roll out in the next few days if your phone hasn't frozen Launch event for the 1 plus 5 will happen June 20th at 12 p.m. Eastern with the tagline Focus on what matters so everybody assumes it has to do with a cool camera streamed at 1pl.us slash launch if you want to watch it on June 20th Kaspersky lab has filed antitrust complaints in Europe against Microsoft for abusing its dominant marketing position to push its own Antivirus service Windows Defender Yeah, they did that in Russia too. So they're continuing to go after Microsoft for bundling and security, which if you have mixed feelings about I don't like monopolistic practices at the same time I think operating systems should bundle in security. I think that's important Yeah, and Windows Defender. I mean at least last time I checked was pretty good. It's pretty decent Kaspersky It would disagree with you, but most reviewers would not so Here are some more top stories Amazon reddit Mozilla and several other companies are joining together to support an Internet-wide day of action to save net neutrality on July 12th Websites will quote sound the alarm about the FCC's proposal to change ISP classification Doesn't we don't know exactly what that means yet probably displaying some kind of prominent message Kickstarter Etsy Vimeo Y Combinator get hub pantheon bit torrent shapeways next door patreon dream host all Among those on board. There's a bunch of nonprofits about 30 organizations on board as well The FCC is taking comments on the change to the open internet guidelines until August 16th So the idea is on July 12th to make it clear What these companies think about the change and and we could use some net neutrality right now To bring the packets from Veronica in right Because hello. Oh, there you are. I thought maybe they were throttling you already I don't know what happened. It disappeared. Where should I pick up Tom? No, I was just mentioning the Amazon reddit Mozilla movement on July 12th So what what do you think of this it remember the soap a blackout was very effective It essentially killed the soap a lot. This is not Congress though. This is the FCC. They are less The less less amenable to public pressure, I think yeah, I think this is a great I you know, I technically kind of maybe have to recuse myself from this for reasons. I can't say yet Well, there's a lot of companies involved. Yes, there are there sure are But I think it's a really general. Yeah, without speaking on the particular movement, you know What do you think another sopa could happen? With this issue. Yeah, absolutely I think I think it's it's it's definitely in it's a it's a danger And I think we have to stay vigilant about it because it's it's it feels like it's coming down the pipeline I don't think the FCC is gonna change their minds no matter what happens. That's Unfortunately the way I feel about it. I also don't think as many things will change As quickly as people fear I think that's you know, if there is an upside that that would be the upside Public pressure can still be applied to companies not to do abusive measures Even if they have the freedom to do it Which is how it worked up until 2012, right? So, you know, it's not the end of the world But I suppose if you're opposed to this reclassification that it's important to make it clear that you're opposed to it Whether you think it's gonna have an effect or not Lift is partnering with autonomous vehicle company Newtonomy to launch autonomous car car ride hailing in Boston Newtonomy has been testing a small number of Renault Zoe Zoe V's in Boston. I don't know much about cars. Sorry folks And we'll integrate lift software into a couple of them in the coming months Lift also has autonomous car partnerships with GM and Waymo of Veronica What does it have anything to do with your knowledge of cars? It has to do what nothing brought your proud tradition of I never know if so Zio you so Zoe, you know, I don't know for sure on that one I know it's Renault because it's French Did I say Renault you said Renault? I would guess Zoe, but I could be wrong on that one A million people are emailing you right now Keep them coming. I think there's a great partnership in autonomy Of course doing the autonomous car service in Singapore one of the first companies in the world to offer actual autonomous car service to the public there So bringing it to Boston is great. We don't know when it's actually going to be available for people This is just the announcement of the partnership But lift also taking a different tactic from Uber, which is trying to roll their own autonomous car lift partnering with GM with Waymo And now with Newtonomy saying we'll take all comers. We don't we don't care who you are I mean if they weren't in direct competition, they'd probably partner with Uber on that one as well Yeah, and someone who was it today one of the big car companies pulled their soul to all their Tesla stock Because they're working on their own EV stuff. I think it was Ford But I'm not a hundred percent sure so there's definitely I mean the the movement is is happening Movement get it. Yeah, toyota toyota all its Tesla stock because they want to do a flying car by 2020 There you go The US Supreme Court agreed Monday to hear carpenter versus the United States and Take on the decision of whether the government needs a warrant to obtain location information from cell phone companies now Decisions in courts up to now on the issue have relied on a 1979 court case called Smith versus Maryland in that case the Supreme Court ruled that since you hand over the number You dial to a third party namely the phone company You have no reasonable expectation of privacy the fact that you make a call requires someone else Besides you and the party you're calling to know about it And so hey the court said that's not private and that therefore Warrants were not needed to go to come to telephone companies and get a record of who you call now Under the stored communications act in the US investigators still must show what's essentially Reasonable grounds to believe the records are relevant and material in order to get location information out of a cell phone They however don't need to show probable cause which is the normal thing that you need to show to get a warrant So the argument that will be decided by the Supreme Court is Whether or not the stored communications act violates the fourth amendment prohibition Against unreasonable search and seizure if you're the phone cup if you're the law enforcement if you're the United States You're saying no this does not violate the fourth amendment. It's it's perfectly reasonable It is a lower standard because location information is also shared with your phone company And therefore and you don't have an expectation of privacy on the other hand if you're arguing on the side of carpenter You're saying hey location information a whole different thing and you can't not share it You don't have a choice and so we think this is a violation of the fourth amendment protection. Yeah, man That's that's tricky. I Don't know. I don't know. Do you feel like location data is different from call data? I'm of two minds on the one hand I take the tactic in my own life of hey lots fewer things are private than you think are Forget about laws. There's there's people out there Harvesting data all over the place And so I try to live my life with the idea that pretty much everything could be seen by someone Don't don't rely on on the privacy of anything on the internet. That's just a long-standing Fact of the internet since the 90s That said there, you know, I I I don't want the law to open up the doors and make it easy to find out those things, right? so I Would like it to require a higher standard and I feel like in the current climate, you know law enforcement is Wanting to have easier ways to get at things for very good reasons But those pressures are so much that we should we should hold the line and make sure that you really need the easier path before we give it Yeah, I mean there the expectations of privacy, especially like you said of you know companies that work as data brokers Fortunately, most of that data is Anomized and just being used as a as a general trend kind of predictor, but yeah, you can find About a person Using that data also So it's it's just a matter of you know Do we give up a level of privacy for convenience and safety or do we try as much as possible to lock ourselves down? And and remember probable cause Means hey, we're pretty sure this person committed a crime and we want these records And that that's what that's what we're not saying that the law enforcement couldn't ever get location records It's just what standard of evidence do they have to bring can they be like hey, you know this person is probably involved somehow We don't know if they committed a crime. That's the reasonable evidence Saying no you can never have them without at all is not what's at issue It's is it someone who's tangentially related to something and it's a bit of a fishing expedition because you think hey Maybe it'll shed some light in the case or is it we know for sure. We're fairly confident not know for sure We're fairly confident this person is connected to this case Yeah, I mean it's it's super tricky And I think it goes just even beyond as you were saying the the general privacy stuff and into how Warrants are actually obtained and what what it constitutes probable cause. Yeah Amazon announced a 45% discount on Amazon Prime membership to US residents who have an electronic benefits transfer card The service normally cost $10 and 99 cents a month in the US But the discount would make it $5 and 99 cents per month and still provide free two-way shipping online movies and TV shows and more And this is kind of like bring it down from feeling like a very You know, they want to make it Accessible to to everyone as much as possible Yeah, they want to compete with Walmart Yeah, they didn't get jet. They're mad What whether the motivation is greed or not it is probably it's probably mixed, right? I mean, obviously they want to compete with Walmart on the other hand They also don't want people to feel like they can't shop at Amazon. It's because they want to sell things though Well, I love I love yeah, I love how I immediately was like this is so altruistic and Tom is like they're greedy. I Don't think they're why not both. Yeah, I don't think Sawyer on the other hand does But yeah, I think this is a good plan for whatever the motivation is because if you're on electronic benefits If you don't understand what that is, that's basically government assistance in the United States Then this is a way to take advantage of free two-day shipping and Amazon Prime video and all kinds of other things Don't you think? Yes. I said yes. Did you not hear me say yes? I was hoping you would buy me time to get Sawyer The next one Okay, we'll just we'll just keep the dog barks in According to Bloomberg Uber told its employees that more than 20 people have been fired after an investigation into sexual harassment Claims TechCrunch reports former Apple marketing executive Basoma st. John has taken a job at Uber I saw someone say that she'll be chief branding officer at Uber. I haven't seen that confirmed yet Uber has also hired former Harvard associate Francis Frey as its first SVP of leadership and strategy tasked with overhauling company culture Training and recruiting managers and creating a zero-tolerance sexual harassment policy So this is a house cleaning Yeah, and this isn't even the Eric Holder investigation yet This is this is just the first step and this is also they said there's even more employees who are currently receiving Mm-hmm kind of like lessons and how not to sexually harass Remediation so they're basically getting like Therapy, there's a better word for it than what I'm coming up with. I can't remember what exactly they said They're getting like retrained essentially And then there's still more people that still even need to be processed and who are going through the the review process About this right now. So they are really really digging in Which I appreciate I think that's good. I think they had to take big steps So yes, there is no doubt that what Uber is doing is significant. They are not they're not holding back They obviously are questions about whether this will actually fix things or not that can't be answered by anybody No matter, you know, you can have your opinions about whether it will But we just won't know until they're through the entire Eric Holder report and they've taken all the steps and Give them time to see what works what I wonder for you Veronica somebody who's working in tech Right now Does this do you think this could have the effect of changing the culture beyond just Uber? Do you think other companies might start looking at this and saying, you know what? We need to take action now before we end up in that situation I mean, certainly not every company has the same level of problems that Uber has You know, I think this is really a top-down issue in a lot of ways where the culture is informed by the Executive executive level people Sometimes or at least them being very free forgiving of that kind of behavior or you know setting personal examples It's and not cracking down very early. It's something that kind of has to develop very early in a company's culture to to, you know Stay away from it's I that sounds really messed up But when you start a company, you have to think about what kind of company you want to be and what kind of policies You put into place and how you treat your employees and how you expect your employees to treat their their co-workers And you have to crack down pretty early or else sometimes as we've seen it can it can spiral out of control And if there's no one if there's no gatekeepers saying this is not okay This is not acceptable behavior. It continues to spiral out of control So I think maybe other companies who are either in their early stages or you know Potentially even further along are gonna start saying, you know, we really need to get a system in place to prevent this from ever happening at the first point Let alone thinking about how to take care of it. Once it's already become a problem Yeah, I I think that That that companies may have in the past Swept some things under the rug because they thought they weren't that bad. Oh, yeah, this is not an issue here This is just one individual well, you know You know, you're you're it really isn't horrible. It's just the way things are done You know, no real harm has happened And I think this is the kind of situation that can make companies second-guess that kind of attitude It's it's like Domino's, you know, there's always It starts with one situation and it just gets worse and worse sometimes depending on the way the company handles it So you really have to put the kibosh on it pretty pretty early. Yeah, Domino's falling not delivering in 30 minutes No, that's right. Yeah All right, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to Daily Tech headlines.com That is a look at our top stories. By the way, Daily Tech headlines podcast Amazon Echo Flash Briefing and anchor FM the app go try it out in all three places find out which one works best for you Let's get Veronica's bot take out of your bot scene today You had a link to a story about developing bot personalities the idea that if I have this right you tell me that You can't just create a bot that talks in natural language that if you really want people to Like the bot that your company is is having interact with them. You got to give them a little personality Yeah, this is a really great post and I think there's a ton of really good teachings here as well But I something I had never thought of before that really stood out to me was building a bot personality based on Myers-Briggs and this was also very timely as Tom knows because My first my husband took the Myers-Briggs and then I took it and then I made Tom take it and then we made a Roger Take it and everyone I know at my company take it and a lot of businesses do this because depending on what your personality type is You may you know take direction better in certain ways or you might interact with certain people in different ways And so it's kind of just a really good overview of how we Respond and react to situations and it's by no means definitive. I mean it's kind of I don't it's not like zodiac In the sense that you know, there's I mean there's really a lot of science behind this Not to say if you're a strong believer in zodiac I mean my my zodiac sign really does feel like me sometimes There's there's more to the Myers-Briggs than than star signs It's based on elements of actual human psychology But at the same time, it's not definitive If you take the test and it tells you you're an advocate or a debater or something like that That you you may not fit squarely into all of these categories totally You know some people like my husband fit exactly into his character category. I think you fit pretty closely, too The advocate it's it's the least common personality I'm the console. I'm the depending on which which version of the test you look at. I mean, I'm an ESFJ So I'm extroverted sensing feeling and judging We're both FJ, that's why we get along and and Roger took the test and ended up as the debater Entp. Oh, I'm so surprised Not I'm not surprised. I'm not at all surprised. I was a baby about that I'm sure he would I mean I that I can't wait to read about that personality type because it's gonna crack me up But anyway, you can take these personality types and you can create a bot that fits into one of these 16 personality types, right? Exactly and then you kind of have an idea of how your bots going to interact with people You can write your copy you can write your personality or train your AI around that personality type So it's consistent and that's one of the most important things about designing kind of a bot experience For for for the future is is having a consistent experience that people understand how to communicate it communicate with it Two things I took out of this article that I thought were we're so much so interesting was one The idea that people project a personality on a conversational interface whether you create one or not and I think of all of the early GPS units where we Talked about how mad they sound if we didn't follow the directions and they didn't really but you project that on them Right, so the idea is you you want to take charge of that if you're creating a bot so that the projected personality Isn't just randomly assigned by the listener But but you're guiding what that personality should be and then the other thing that I found interesting is they're hiring authors To oh yeah, these personalities. Oh, you didn't know that Not till I read this article. No. Oh, no. Yeah, this is a huge huge huge huge trend in in in bots A lot of the big companies like poll string for example hire creative writers and authors To work on the platform to give the specific bots whether it's a branded bot or whether it's something that's going to that You're gonna build on top of a very distinct personality and voice Yes, you need Writing dialogue right and creating distinct personalities. That's an author or screenwriter, right? That's that's that's pretty cool Well, that's one of the reasons I actually got into That's that's one of the reasons they take silenced her I Did see that and thought wow Google was hiring. They're not hiring anymore I mean, I'm not gonna leave this job, but if I had to I would totally take a job Working for a bot company writing up the bot personalities with Roger. Would you do that? Maybe I don't know. I mean, I You know, honestly, I had I didn't get a chance to read my entire personality result profile So I still may get a surprise like oh, I should totally become like, you know a lawyer Which I would probably detest because I have to cuz not to because my cousins are lawyers But because they've told me that it's kind of a very painful road To to row to hoe. Yeah. Oh I was just talking to Roger saying that if if I had to not do this job, which I don't plan to leave I Might want that job. I might want to create Conversational interfaces as an author like as a writer. That'd be there you go. Yeah. Did I did you lose me mid-sentence? I did But it was near the end of a sentence. So I feel like you were you were wrapping up. All right. Yeah. Yeah, it was a good It was a really good thought What was it again? I don't remember now. Yeah, it's gone. Let me just rewind. It'll be fine Well, this is really cool. So of course you can find more like this in the bot zine. Where do they go to subscribe to that? bot zine.org Excellent. All right, we got some fan mail here Some reactions to WWDC a few other things Allen wrote in and said as you and Patrick were summing up the WWDC Patrick mentioned that Apple was showing off VR mainly to attract VR developers rather than VR users at least yet It is a developers conference at that point something clicked and all the stuff about machine learning Which is useful for VR and pro users came together for me with the goal of VR developers I think I know why Apple has lost a lot of ground in recent years to windows in the creative professional space Especially in video production between the lukewarm reception to final cut pro and the lack of pro hardware development a lot of creative Pros have moved to windows when not too long ago No one would have considered anything but an Apple machine for most creative work things like illustration photo video, etc This translates into consumer mind space as well not to mention the prosumers who also trend towards Apple the tool of the Professionals I think Apple realizes that VR is the next big battleground for creative professionals And if they ever want to regain their position as the platform of choice VR is their opportunity to do so of all the pros that felt abandoned by Apple the creative professionals are probably the most important Apple's brand and reputation Alan says wow, I didn't think I'd get anything out of WWDC coverage, but you guys managed to spur some interesting thoughts bravo That's a little bit of a backhanded comment compliment, but I think that was good. I totally agree too Yeah, I think that is smart And I think Alan totally nailed it in a way that hadn't crystallized for me yet Which is it's not just that they're going back after the professionals They're trying to target the next thing professionals will need machines for rather than competing on the things They need now where like it like he said windows has already stolen a lot of market share So aim towards where people are going and you're more likely to get them back Alright Jake from KFDI in Wichita, Kansas actually sent us a call and he's got a lovely radio voice Hey DTNS crew Apple is planning on blocking text messages while driving with iOS 11 That's according to an article I found on CNN money It's there do not disturb while driving feature the cars moving or if the phone is connected to a car It would hold back on any notifications for things like text messages or news updates according to CNN You can set your phone to auto respond with a message saying you're driving the thing that caught my attention though The iPhone screen would be locked you could still use Apple Maps But you won't be able to input destinations passengers can disable the screen lock that sounds like things like ways or Pokemon Go giving you the ability to say I'm a passenger I can't tell if this is going to be automatically enabled or if it's something that you opt into and I'd like to hear your thoughts On this triple a Kansas says the number of teenage drivers involved in deadly crashes jumped 10 percent between 2014 and 2015 And that 16 and 17 year olds are three times more likely than adults to be involved in a fatal crash Triple a says distractions like cell phones or talking to friends plays a part in six out of ten crashes involving teenagers Do you think Apple's idea is a good way to reduce those statistics? Yeah, this is something where you will be able to not use it if you want because just In order to have passengers be able to use their phones you have to be able to turn it off And and and you can have it on and say oh no I'm a passenger. So some people will be able to get around it. It also doesn't stop people from texting while driving This is notification Elimination so again people can get around it and do some texting, but it would put a speed bump in it I I think it will if anything it won't directly stop things But it will sort of create the mindset of oh, right. I shouldn't be doing that I would like it to be able to turn off notifications when something like ways is running Because my big problem is I constantly get notifications because the screen is unlocked. So I get those drop-down notifications Yeah, and I'm sorry. I burped. Did you hear me? I hope not. We would now we're certain we heard it now You're definitely gonna hear me anyway. Sorry about that It drives me nuts those notifications like and sometimes they just sit there Blocking the top like third of the screen for like a really long time No, and this is gonna be great for that and in fact, I might want I might want to trick my phone into thinking it's driving Sometimes just to reduce the notifications. Yeah I This one comes from bill he says Tom Honey, I never know how to say this. I don't either But I think I'm gonna say hop-up this time because I say a different hop-up Okay, he says Tom with my hop-up cable card tuner died. I replaced it with a silicon dust home run cable card tuner I've been using the free version of Plex till then but when I saw that Plex supported DVR on the home run I bought the Plex pass. I also bought a Roku to supplement my Chromecasts Plex live is only available on Android TV and iOS at this time when it becomes available on more devices I'll be able to use it I could eliminate three set top boxes from Comcast if I wasn't the only family member who knew how to operate Plex Roku and Chromecast. I don't think the non-technical type of user is a potential Plex customer I've been using the Windows Media Center with a cable card tuner as a DVR for many years The problem is viewing the recorded videos on devices other than the system running WMC when it was recorded I can convert non-protected videos to MP4 files, but I lose all the metadata Plex displays the metadata and I can see the data with thumbnails on my alternate alternate devices The bottom line is that Plex has a lot to offer, but it isn't ready for prime time. It's from Bill Berlin game in Huntsville Yeah, thank you Bill. That's good analysis because it's one of the debates we had on court killers yesterday about this as well Which is whether whether it's friendly to the babysitter, right? To the person who comes over as a guest who doesn't know how your system works And and I think it could be I think Plex could be if it's a very simple setup Where it's like you press this button to turn on the TV and the Roku and that's all there is But if you've got a cable box and something else it can start to get more complicated. So good stuff Finally just another pilot and a patreon supporter wrote in about the proposal to privatize air traffic control now This is a little farther afield from our normal tech operation But I know we have a lot of pilots out there Joe the pilot for one and a bunch of folks and this Correspondent said hey if and this is not Joe by the way, this is just another pilot Says hey if any of you guys want to or need to touch on this I'd love to point you in the direction of my viewpoint basically making air traffic control private won't speed up innovation We've got a good plan to modernize the system and it'll never happen until it's funded if it's something that comes up Keep an eye out for next gen which can meet two of I don't know how many goals without any funding The rest will need to come from money somehow the ATC Union might be a hurdle to innovation But everything I've seen from GAO and otherwise hasn't pointed to the controllers of the Union or to regulation Get next gen up and running and you can probably decrease some of the staffing But no one is holding up that first step except Congress by way of both parties So this is someone who works in the in in the system and says I I don't know if this is gonna help or hurt But what you really need is to fund the change of the technology and they have a couple of they have a couple of opportunities there Interesting. Yeah, I read that the Union was pro privatization But I don't really know enough about this kind of thing to to speak knowledgeably on it interesting I'd read the opposite. So that that is very interesting. Oh, yeah, no, I definitely read that the Union seemed to support it Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit submit stories and votes on them a daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Real quickly before we wrap up Chris the amateur traveler He's been doing tech and travel minute for us for over a year now So give Chris a little congratulations on Twitter if you see him go check out amateur traveler calm And thanks to my new setup. I can actually play them in line now So here's Chris going a little old school this week I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute We're gonna go old school today here thinking again about road trips this summer Some of you may not be old enough to remember this But it used to be we used these maps that were made of this thing called paper And if you were really lucky you used a map from the AAA from the American automobile Association when traveling in the US Here that was called a triptych TRI PTIK and that was where they took individual small maps and they marked out your Route with little stamps that had arrows on them and where to turn all of these things and you would turn Page by page through this it was particularly wonderful if you were a kid and you were learning to navigate Well, it turns out that's not entirely dead There is still a way to do that at triple a search Google for a a a triptych TRI PTIK and you'll find their triptych app And you can use it to print either on actual paper or to a PDF file Or even send it to an email this series of maps that are step-by-step Directions for the specific trip you're doing it will give you driving directions as most apps do but will also give you Advisories that this particular route in summer is busy between this and this exit There's deep fog in this section this time of year and then we'll give you these details segment by segment maps If you want to go old-school or nostalgic with your navigation this year go to triple a's triptych I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler. Oh my gosh. That's so cool. I've forgotten all about triptychs I use them in the 90s and you had to go to the office and have them print them out for you It's pretty great that you can just do it. You can DIY it now I feel like he told me something about that like many years ago. Yeah, probably it was another another travel podcaster Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Well, thank you Chris Go check out amateur traveler like you said amateur traveler comm and send us your picks feedback on daily tech news show comm Veronica Belmont. Thank you so much. Where can folks find more of what's going on with you? 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You're doing a great job. I can't even load showbot by the way Oh, there's Roger's gonna read them for you. Oh Park the autonomous car in the park. All right, that's the top one. Then there's the three personality flaws of robotics I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't feel that The bots of personality FA a salute obsolete Bob's salute, dude, you're getting it back back Get it, dude. You're getting it down. Well, it's an HP though. Not a dough The dating game my personality test tells me I'm a DT and that's Veronica burps. I hate the no-to-for-burp Friendly to the babysitter Veronica's lost packets a proud tradition of mispronouncing things. Are you my type? Oh, that's cute I like that one's good. Oh, that's bent. Yeah, we both we all voted on that at the same time I haven't even read my personality. I'm just a debater Are you Follow the path of the unsafe independent thinker exposure ideas to the dangers of controversy speak your mind and fear to the less If you're less the label of crackpot than the stigma of conformity And on issues that seem important to you stand up and be candid at any cost So you're an ENTP Yeah, or you could just shorten it to ET Oh, did they put dad jokes in this personality test? Have you have the dad jokes? Oh yours yours. Oh This is mine. It's remembering mine Mine is the ENTP I put in a slack I'm also a Scorpio Sagittarius. So I don't know what it means on Yeah, they don't relate The debater personality type is the ultimate devil's advocate thriving on the process of shredding arguments and beliefs and letting the ribbons drift in the wind for all to see Debaters don't do this because they're trying to achieve some deeper purpose or strategic goal But for the simple reason that it's fun This is so you no one loves the process of mental sparring more than debaters As it gives them a chance to exercise their effortlessly quit quit brought accumulated knowledge base And capacity for connecting disparate ideas to prove their points. Oh my god. I cannot believe how much this is you This is not but tom, which were you were you were the I'm the advocate But on this I think you might have also been a diplomat Oh, the advocate is the diplomat. It's the same thing. Yeah, it's the same thing So this tactic shouldn't be confused with the sort of mutual understanding diplomat personalities seek Debaters like all analyst personality types are on a constant quest for knowledge And what better way to gain it than to attack and defend an idea from every angle from every side They will they will do podcasts with the advocate personality and constantly debate them I want to say oh parenthood they have a section on parenthood. How do my kids turn out? Oh debaters, you might know weird al yankovich Adam savage Silverman Mark tween That's cool And tom hanks Tom Thomas Edison That's funny and Irene Adler Irene Adler made up the fictional character Yeah, yeah, I mean here's the thing though as as close as that was to Roger I read one that was not yours thinking it was yours and was like this is so Veronica So there's a little bit of like you will project what you expect on these descriptions Coming to terms with their sensitivity is consul's biggest challenge People are going to disagree and they're going to criticize and while it hurts. It's just a part of life Who's what's that? That's it's me. This is me. Okay. Yeah Conclusion what does the premium profile get you a print out? It's a personality change. They'll actually do surgery on you Well, but what then what's the ideal personality? No, it's just a matter of taste. You're like, you know, I'm tired of being so argumentative I want to know romantic relationships. How does it end? Oh, you're gonna do jens next dating in Debater personalities is a hardly boring experience. They make use of their enthusiasm and creativity by delighting and surprising The partners with new ideas and experience. I don't I plan it and watch youtube play video games. I read this is so me the console in a workplace is like So funny All right, we're going with are you my type? Yes. Yeah, I like it. Okay. Yep. All right Oh, um, roger. How what percent are you turbulent? What percent turbulent are you with your results? It shows your percentage like Is that being on the cusp in astrology? Oh, wait, wait, so let me see. I see mind energy nature tactics identity Is I don't see I don't see uh, no so on your page where it says your debate 63 I'm 88 percent turbulent. What are you judging? What's your judging? Judging it's the one above turbulent. Oh 36 Hmm super judgy I'm not judgy. He's not. He's the opposite. Oh, he's not very judgy I'm 88 percent judging I expect to be disappointed by most people so it's like for me to judge Everyone everyone can meet your expectations when they're low enough That's from my science. That's from my chemistry. This is for this is for roger For relationships From the earliest dates debaters test their partner's limit for this kind of potential pushing boundaries and traditions looking for open Good-mindedness and spontaneity Dating debater personalities is hardly a boring experience and they make use of their enthusiasm and creativity by delighting and surprising Her partners with new ideas and experiences Does that sound like you? Yeah Yeah, these aren't all perfect, but they're funny. I it's I It really depends. I mean maybe when I was younger I was super like but as you get older You just move slower. Okay. So here's here's my here's my opinion on these They are not worthless because they are actually based on real Personality traits like they didn't just make this stuff up people people differ in these various ways that they're assessing but the problem is there are probably more than 16 personality types and There's a there's a sort of a distance between I'm answering a question and that question is going to put me in a bucket And so you have a percentage chance of getting someone close to what they're about Um, but it's still it's still not tuned to the complexity of the human personality That it's going to be perfect every time and I think that's why it's fun to look at these and go Oh my gosh, that person really does fit this description Um, but it's not something that you should use as 100 accurate Like every person who takes this test is now in a bucket and that's where they stay And I think that's why they have the turbulence scores and things like that, right Veronica left Well, that was part of the personality type First to leave the party To get to the next party I think they're really interesting though, and there's certainly more to them than just randomness. Yeah, it's it's not random But I mean it's but everyone has a little bit of And the thing is people have different they're different traits express themselves depending on the context of the situation Yes, that's a very good point like even you know your your answers to these questions can change based on how you feel and what your experiences were That day and like how I approach someone I've never met will definitely be different than someone I know and so various that like I'm not gonna you know if I'm at uh, if I'm at like, you know The store and I'm requesting I I'm not gonna play mind games. I just tell me where I can find, you know screws or staples Staples is up uh on olympic right on set now. Yeah, yeah I wonder if there's a one for puns In the search for personality traits derived from puns Yes, the mike mire jason briggs test See This goes yeah beat master says it's like a self-fulfilling prophecy You look for cues to confirm the bias or expectations that said I don't think all 16 Would fit so the fact that you're answering these questions and they are related in some way to reality Does narrow the number of them that would actually apply Okay, I think we're all published and everything check that out Thanks everybody for watching. I hope you enjoyed Whatever your personality type is and we'll be back tomorrow with scott johnson All right