 And what up fam? There we go. Anthony dream Johnson here today founder of the 21 convention the 22 convention make woman great again 21 studios co-founder of the red man group founder of 21 university and several other amazing things and president of the man's fair Joining me today on an episode of 21 live special interview with upcoming big anti-feminist youtuber Jennifer Molesky She has accumulated a channel as you can see here with a bunch of videos a lot of content a lot of fans Over 50,000 subscribers and growing She was recently interviewed as you can see there too by the one and only mr. George Bruno of the Bruno brothers aka the Bruno mafia I came out recently on her channel and George Bruno's channel, and I'm pretty sure we published it, too I hear on 21 studios So without further ado joining me today is an amazing woman Jennifer Molesky Jennifer welcome to the show. Thank you I'm really happy to be here and talk to you because it's the first time we've officially met really and The people that are watching Yeah, cool. Thank you meeting. Yeah, I'm really appreciate you coming on and also we're gonna meet soon at the 22 convention face to face Yes, it's like what one month one month and four days away earth. Yeah one month away I think it's 31 days 30 31 really close. Yeah, it's coming up. So yeah, I'm pumped So you're there invited you on a media pass a press pass a while ago. You are you're getting a real news press pass We've also been selling fake news press passes seriously to BuzzFeed and other companies that I hate Really? Oh, yeah, we charge them money. Yeah a lot of money Yeah, I was gonna ask you because I've seen you what is it on good morning? Britain yes, something yep, and and they you know, they gave you some shit and whatnot But I'm I know that there's women that have talked about this like oh, you're gonna make women great again How dare you talk about this, but do you get that from men at all? I imagine that you do sometimes Yeah, it's mixed The women it's there's some women who support it you're an obvious one There's other women on Twitter and Facebook that have really come out of the woodwork to support it But you have Lee Pretty heavily like you know feminists and oh you hate women blah blah blahs bullshit with men with men I think it's a more even split, but there's still plenty of soy boat losers Who are mostly like a snake sucking up to women trying to get in the pants? And they think this they really think by bitching at me. It's gonna do that somehow like through magic forces It's all fucking insane. Yeah, but Anthony the problem is it will work with some women You know what I mean like I've I've gotten into it None of the ones I would ever touch no and I don't know and and not the ones that they're gonna be happy with But we with you're saying with the snakes like I've I've had discussions in Public about well, just how I don't like feminism and it's amazing how many men well Like how dare you talk about these women like that, you know and just like think I'm the worst person because Nights are coming at you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, those guys disgust me But most I find at least half of the guys I would say that I talked to I wear this hat on public a lot to Pick up chicks and shit at bars It doesn't work deal. Yeah, it's usually well It gets attention. We'll say that it's a red Maga hat first of all, yeah read it then they're like, whoa, what the fuck is that? Response either if they're Hillary voters something from back in the day, then it's usually a fucking instant. No, sure There anything other than that it usually sparks curiosity and kind of shit testing They want to want to poke me and understand like what is it? What is it? What does that mean? Yeah? So or they just like it. I've had mothers with the job Like I've seen I go to the redneck bar sometimes and these mothers will go their daughters and go get drunk and shit And the moms will be hitting on me and they're like, oh make one the great again. Like, yeah, we'll make them like you. Yeah Well, I imagine if you showed that hat not like you're picking up grandma's but if you were to show it to a lot of grandmothers They would totally understand the sentiment because I mean, I can't imagine being 20 30 40 years older and seeing the transition of what's the hijacking that's happened to people's sensibilities even You know my grandma died my maternal grandmother died back in 2011 and she was like 91 92 years old And she got married and her, you know, I got to know her really well growing up. She's like a mother to me, you know almost And I love her so much but looking at her life trajectory and what I know about it from what you told me and what I've heard And all these things that I saw I mean, it was so different from what we see today. She was married at 16 She had my uncle at 17 This is completely normal back then and yeah, whatever year whatever year this was like the 1920s or some shit or 30s or whatever And uh, yeah, that's so different and she was married till the day my grandfather died of esophagus cancer Because he was painting ships with like lead in it and Yeah, I guess this was pretty common back then unfortunately But that was a long marriage and even after that Yeah, I'm sorry Well, the final thing here is though not only that were they married till the day, you know, she's very catholic She's super religious And not only were they married till the day he died Uh, I guess that's when the marriage ends or something I remember that works in a gorgeous component. I don't know. I don't know either actually She prayed every night for my grandfather my Her whole life after he died my entire life every night for two hours or more Wow, not just religiously like with absolute conviction would never miss it Even in the end when she was dying of bone cancer like still like absolutely was committed to doing this With a level of intensity that I've never you I don't know if I've ever I have this I mean that's what inspires me to in some ways to be an entrepreneur But when you compare that to the what to the thought culture we see today It's just this massive massive difference I think it speaks perfectly to what you're saying to these grandmas that would see The transition in women today over the past couple decades. It's just crazy. It's nuts Yeah Yeah, I mean I The times have changed and and you know, I do believe in all things with the pendulum. So I'm curious As I'm sure many of you are If the pendulum still has some ways to go if so, how much more are we on the are we on the downturn? And if we still have ways to go How can we people who care about family and nuclear family and love and commitment loyalty Put put a heavier weight to make it not go as far Or to have it come down a little fast Maybe that pendulum is going to keep swinging and then like bounce Like literally smashing to something and just like a rubber ball just like bounce back I don't know. We're going to see but It is a very Okay, so so everything is is kind of poopy right now But what an interesting time to be alive and I'll say that with any I mean as human beings and this planet Through evolution. We have taken a lot of shit. I mean life isn't easy people are always dying There's always somebody that wants to slit your throat. There's always a war There's always bad, but this is just our version of it right now and I think that we have enough free time and mental capacity to think through A solution faster than having having but but I don't know but having life Dictate where we're going to go. You know what I mean? Like I guess be more involved in the solution than just watching it watching it happen Yeah, as passive observers you can get active Of course That's happened before. I mean the founding of the united states is a good example that That was a major turning point at thinking human history for the positive And we're still feeling the positive effects from that, you know, 250 years later or whatever So I think we can make a big difference I say this the century, you know, it's fucked up as things are clown world and all that That it's an opportunity to kill things and abolish things like feminism Yeah, and I think I'm young enough and strong enough strong willed enough to pull that off And this hat and this idea is like really Maybe not the beginning of that but one of the first steps of doing that I've been obviously I've been an entrepreneur building my business for 14 years now This is actually just the latest iteration of that But it's been powerful. Like you mentioned appears in my interview But really we hit 150 million people this year with this message Awesome It's amazing it pissed a lot of women off, but good it inspired attention and emotions all these things Yes, and you know, I have a friend who introduced me to anarchy freedom and liberty I used to be very liberal But he had such an articulate and intelligent way of explaining his position that after just A short amount of time I was like, okay, I don't want to be wrong and I want to be logical and everything he says makes sense So I'm going to go and research it myself. Okay, so now So he totally moved me he totally moved me in my thinking process and had me use my My intellect in a way to be not feeling based like liberal, right? But this guy will get he'll he'll Tell me how upset he is that he can't change Mines I'll be like, yeah, I met these people and I had this two-hour conversation And what the fuck they didn't change their mind and how could people be so stupid? I said, but you don't understand the impact. No one's going to Not no one but it takes a very unique person to submit that they were potentially wrong in a conversation with someone I mean The most you're going to do and usually It works like this. You're going to pivot the mind privately and be like, oh, shit that might be wrong That I might have to research that and then they're going to go In the darkness of the night and they're going to recalibrate their thinking You don't know. I mean you might piss off a feminist or Think everyone thinks you're wrong and you're dumb, but it will shake some people's minds and get them to To think more positively for the future and man and woman relations and family I mean that's what I think that's my hope at least Yep, I agree. And I also think it's uh, it's not entirely useless to affect people's emotions I mean if you look at someone like Donald Trump as the politician As a recent politician before that he was never elected to anything in his life He's been very effective at influencing people's emotions both positively negatively He has a very very strong support base and he pisses off an enormous amount of people at the same time Which riles up more attention to influence the way people think Outside of these extreme emotional pullers like that So I think it's it's a really good It's not always uh, the nice thing to watch can be for me. It's a lot of fun But a lot of people are not comfortable with it. They don't like being Bastic in this big giant asshole. I love it. I think it's beautiful Well, I have a particular personality for that and I get that So but it's effective. I mean look at him. He's been changing the world like it or not Yeah It's just too bad that there's It's it almost seems like you have to dig for that information. You know, it's it's not given up lightly It's certainly not given up by certain news groups at all Yeah, I can't imagine spending four years of my life thinking about one person Negatively so much that I mean that's all I talk about is how bad they are Jump derangement syndrome. It's it really is like a little miniature mental illness. It's a very it's very temporary in human history But there's people that are really that triggered by him. They can't uh, they just can't leave like leave it alone But you mentioned hang on you mentioned a minute ago. That was important. I really wanted to get into this You mentioned that used to be liberal thinking and all these things. Yep Um, so tell me talking to me. I don't know much about your backstory Like how did you become you aren't you're on your youtube channel now with like this little machine gun or like Like a rifle and you're like shooting feminism and shit. Yeah, yeah Obviously, you don't like feminism. You said you hate it. You hate modern feminism, which I support high five digitally. It's fantastic But how did you get to that point in your life? Because obviously I don't think at 10 years old you were like feminism stupid I'm gonna start I'm gonna start a video channel someday and like kill feminism So how did this how did this transition or this process happen? Okay, um, I find it similar to I said to my husband recently Uh, right after Uh, the guy got shot What's his name the guy that's I mean The the person that started this whole black lives matter and and whatnot Yes Getting a shot who is uh, that was a whole different. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. There's a lot of shit going on lately. I get it So I said to my husband about a month after that. I said I've never been so aware Of race before, you know, like leaving the house like white white black Hispanic like this is so dumb And it was media that presented that to me because I don't I don't care outside of that And it felt like I was being told like look at race. Look at race. You're racist. Look at race. Look at race And I feel like the same thing with With feminism because at 10 years old, you know, who's thinking about that and we didn't have I guess we did like, you know, the girls club and the boys club, but it was never like At least in my memory this is a long time ago But it wasn't a it was a competition, but it wasn't because we're better, you know So that so the idea of feminism was never In my head Um, but here let's shout that for for a moment. Well, I think what you mean by that too Those agenda relations were better and healthier when you were younger Yes, it was a much cleaner relationship Yeah, good. And okay, I may have lost my train of thought it happens Yep, it's okay. No, yes Okay, so I've seen that too. They're growing up is that uh, I felt like in the late 90s as a kid and in the 2000s that Before we got this super woke feminism Probably like 2013 on like this almost like a fourth wave came about Things were a lot better between men and women. I used to pick up girls in 2000s and I wasn't scared about getting falsely accused so much of any kind of this crazy nonsense that we see Now of me too and all this crap as a witch hunt And it was always possible But you know, it was a very minor thing and you know, it was a bunch of clear clear consent in these things No means no and all the stuff this was talked about in the monastery back then pick up community And it was taught like a you like, you know, follow the law all the stuff and now it's like, what what are the fucking rules? Like nobody even yes, yes, you're one false accusation away from losing your whole life Getting kicked off the internet fired and starved to death on the street as a man That's what it feels like anyway as a young man today and it sucks So yeah, because because that's how women are being raised at at 10 at 10 years old Okay Here I'm writing things down. So I don't forget I remember when I was a little girl, I've always been the person that was that was about self-responsibility So when I was in like third fourth grade if I would do something because I was kind of just Distracting I talked to a lot of people and if someone got in trouble for what I did I would always raise my hand and say no, no, no, that was my fault You know, so I think I've always had that that thinking of Where's my part in this so when feminism when I started to be introduced with the idea that there are some women out there who are so Wrong in their thinking when I when I say wrong, I mean that there's no logical way that they could have concluded this I didn't want to be any any part of that. I mean, how could I? and Children are right now being taught that men are bad I'm gonna tell a little story if you don't mind My stepdaughter who is six now seven came home from So My husband has full custody of his daughter And when she goes to visit her mom She came back last time and had a book a little journal that said I'm I'm a little feminist Okay, and I found yeah, and I found this book and I ran to my husband as if I just found heroin In the house and I was like, what is this? Like what is going on over there? Pretty much you didn't conceptually you found those like conceptual heroin it's Yes, it's destructive to the mind. So I sat down with her. She's six And I said, listen, you're too young to understand feminism. Oh, yeah on the inside cover. It said the future is female Oh, of course So I sat her down and I said so we're gonna learn about feminism as you get older but And then I named all the great things that her dad is like do you love this about him? He is Who's the strongest person in the house? Who's the best tickler? Who's so funny? Who? I mean everything that's great about Him and she was like, you know, I love dad. He's he's my favorite person that I named all the men influencers in our life like Who else gives you piggyback rides and who else? Shows you flowers and herbs. It's the men and then I named the good things about the women And I said so in the when you're a big grown girl Do you want to be around good men? She's like, yes. I said, do you want to be around good women? Yes, so we crossed out. No, we just added male. So the future is male and female Like that's all I can do and I feel like I'm Fra not frightened. Well, let's talk about let's talk about this then. So we got We got the future is patriarchy here Okay, talk to me about, you know, I think the future is patriarchy is a really fantastic slogan for a lot of reasons It's pretty recent. This is a brand new thing So I talked to me about that. What are your feelings? What's your immediate reaction to the future's patriarchy? Okay, good. Let's let's get back to that. Let's get back to the roles that we naturally have that bring us both harmony In the world that we that we live in and in the homes that we're in You know, so I've been I've been thinking about it like this. Have you ever done ballroom dancing? Not much Okay, and that and and that actually doesn't matter because anyone that's listening if they haven't they're gonna be like Well, what about it? Okay. So when you ballroom dance with your partner, you have to have a lot of pressure So it looks like it looks more flowy, but it is very structured And the man has to put a lot of pressure on the woman because the woman has to be guided by the man And and that sounds like toxic masculinity. It's so toxic and it's so lovely So the we are relying on I need to rely on the man to guide me And it seems to me that If I'm going to keep going with this analogy, I don't know if that's that's what it's called That men are scolded For for protecting us and guiding us in the most beautiful And um important way Does it make sense and And I can't like the joy I feel In my marriage And and and the glee that I have over over men I've been taking uh, I'm doing free phone calls now for anyone that feels like I could help them at all and I got emotional on the last call because he was talking about Just how lost And how demonized Masculinity is now And and it may it actually makes me so sad That the most beautiful Natural powerful state Of my species not my gender but my species is being shit on When we actually need it and should be uplifting it and and when I say uplifting I mean women uplifting it Because that um That doesn't that doesn't demean me You know me like uplifting masculinity does not demean Me it just props me up as well because it is a true partnership There's a lot of um There's a lot of managed fair leaders that have said uh other content creators and youtubers that say specifically patriarchy Is actually very very positive for women. Uh, um, so that's one example of that But even masculinity, I think is a force It's very positive force in the world and it has been since the dawn of our species It's it is the in femininity has a mass obviously massive role too. It's half of the human race But masculinity I think is what pulled us out of the dirt And the built civilization and families and empires and technology Most things like that have been built by men and those men were birthed and cared for by women So there there's a really amazing balance that human beings have and the feminism I think is the root Uh and the most intense force we've ever seen that is attacking that and destroying that and it's super it's super dangerous I think the feminism doesn't die the century. It's going to kill america in the west period Yes, I think it's well in the way I mean, we're obviously seeing ramifications ramifications of it right now Can we come back from it? I think yeah, I think so Yeah, I agree But if it's the doom the doom and gloomers the black pillars like we're all fucking doomed like yeah, maybe but probably not Well, and I you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give up until Until it's done What the fat lady's singing I will be that fat lady and I'll keep singing because And the thing is is, you know, a lot of people will will say to me in my In my comment section Shut up and go change the laws But my thing is is like I don't have that much power. I believe in changing My hope is that I will be able to change At least one individual female Right to think about things embrace her femininity Raise up masculinity and then and then there's one guy in the world who is masculine and ready who has one more available woman If I can change one woman I'm happy. I'm not gonna I can't tackle every law. I'm sorry If you think I'm that powerful I that's cool, but I'm I found my edge It's ridiculous. Yeah, and they I think a lot of people have an unrealistic expectation And there are a lot of economists and philosophers and political legal philosophers that would tell you this but It's not only difficult to change laws. It's specifically difficult It's more hard to undo laws once they're made. Oh, yeah, which is where we're at Yes, why when a law gets passed it for anything whether it's feminist related or not or whatever It's very very hard to get that undone later on Oh, there you are your audio got skewed for a second. Oh, we're back Yeah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, so it is it is really hard But for example, there are some positive changes like Kentucky recently passed an equal Default equal shared parenting law and like about a year ago Okay, it's supposed to be like really really good like close to perfect It's not perfect, but it's really good And it's a model that the other 49 states now can look to Yes direction And you know, what if that takes net? What if we get 10 states over the next 15 years? That's pretty good. I mean fuck like it's that's that's moving in the right direction step by step Feminists didn't win the war overnight. They took they've been fighting for 100 years like be patient chill out, you know I'm totally with you. You know when when people talk about Oh god, just how evil America is and that we had slavery My my point is always we're always but as a civilization We're a good people who wants to do good in general and we're always trying to Fix and and fine tune to become better And as long as we can keep staying on that fair-minded trajectory and goal Of a more perfect union. I mean, this is like pretty Founding in the nation and these things Yeah, we've moved massively in that direction Things are not perfect. I mean they've never been perfect. They never will be perfect These people that want this shit They're especially the people that bitch about stuff that never happened to them or their parents or the grandparents It's like you're just fucking delusional Yeah, I don't like these people at all But I have a lot of questions. I want to get through with you. I want to go Okay, this kind of hot takes this be fun. Let's do it. What does Jennifer Molesky's take? You know two minute take on mctau I go back and forth, you know, I feel like it's the 80-20 rule The people that most represent mctau from what I've seen Are I don't believe what mctau is really all about because I I don't like people complaining no matter their situation I'm very much about self-responsibility But but I understand any human man or woman But we'll talk about men going their own way to like dust off dust off and get strong and get clear and become The man they want to be to present to the world because because unless until you are fully Mature in mind body soul spirit You will let a woman Rob you of Of that potential, you know, because it seems like there's a lot of men who are willing to like get like whatever you want Whatever you want. Yeah, I'll do that for you. Yeah. Yeah, and they totally lose themselves Yeah, and then when they it's fucking You see this shit The woman hates it and the man fucking is hates it eventually too Yes, and then they get they get out of a relationship that they were not happy in right and And then they're mad at you know what? I the other reason I want women to get their shit together is so men don't have to yell at me You know So you're wait, you're like this actually makes a lot of sense now So you're like this figure they can just bitch at because they can't bitch at the woman who hurt them or something I think sometimes Yeah, that'll make a lot of sense. Yeah, I think sometimes and I you know I guess I'll take it while you while you lick your wounds and and and become powerful but But yeah, I want I want I believe in in being the best you're you're like everybody sexy girlfriend Fuck Jennifer fake Snake, bro Yeah, I see the comments you get it's brutal. It's fucked up. Yeah. Yeah, but it's it's part of being I think a youtuber and it comes with the territory. You're doing all right. Yeah, it's fine Uh, so yeah, I respect it. I just don't respect the whining, but I but I don't respect whining from any human Yeah, that's my take all right Moving on. Oh, I guess there's one more thing I'd like to say I don't want anyone I was saying and I say Watch what you watch what you buy because you're you'll sell yourself anything And I just am frightened at some people's I hate I hate I hate I hate fuck you. Fuck you. You're wrong. Everything is bad You will buy into that and there'll be a day. I think that you'll be like, oh, I hate so much I feel so heavy with hate and you might want to get out of that and it's going to take a long time for you to To do that to And it's and it's all it's all because of how how entrenched you became in that rhetoric. You know what I mean? Yeah, I we don't it's it's sucked into their own narrative. Basically. Yeah. Yeah, because it's a bad cycle. It's like a It's like a bottomless pit or a downward spiral. Yeah It doesn't feel light. Yeah Yeah, there can be like little there can be miniature I think cycles guys go through kind of like the business cycle and economics and stuff ups and downs And that's pretty normal. I think when guys find this manuscript community and all these things But you know when they get stuck in these ruts for like this ridiculous periods of time or indefinitely It's just fucked up. Yeah, it's stupid. We called it. We called it instead of the manuscript. George Bruno calls it the despair a despairosphere You know what I Actually, when I was talking to george, I said I think I think I brought this up, but I think this is a good example Of what I don't want for people. Have you ever been Like in a good mood and then someone kind of pissed you off Like the person you're with whether it's a friend or or a girlfriend or a wife And you're like just kind of pissed you just kind of pissed But it feels kind of good to be pissed and they want you to be not pissed anymore Like oh, I'm sorry and they try and they do that They try to joke with you and try to get you out of the mood, but you're not ready to be done You're kind of like and you almost want to laugh because they're being funny, but you don't want to I feel like People can be clear. I have a little bit of uh understanding what you're saying, but I think this is more a woman thing Oh I feel like the intensity of the guy job. This is a little more. Yeah Yeah, but I know that men also kind of get mad at things and they're just They'll they'll prolong the anger, but I'm I'm fearful that you got to savor the flavor It's like chips like potato chips. Okay. You have to savor the flavor, but I'm fearful that some men will savor the flavor for 20 years You know when it was just meant to be anger and used for abrevity Yep Okay Now i'm officially done answering that one. Holy god. You gotta nip it in the bud Anthony gotta say jack you're killing it. Yeah, i'ma let you let you rent. This is great. Yeah Talk to me about nice guys Wouldn't nice guys not get these dudes you think they can be nice to women to get in their pants and be These subservient little like air and boys and or beta orbiters and there's white knights all kinds of variations of this You see it in real life you see it on the internet You're i'm sure you've seen it all over your channels instagram and stuff people defending you and Maybe when you don't even need it obviously So what a nice guy does not get about women fundamentally Well, I I think there's a difference between being like genuinely nice Versus I mean like kind Yeah, you know I have manners I really like civility and I I don't want civility at least I don't want anyone listening to think that I'm entangling civility with being too nice because I do believe in civility What nice guys do you believe in savagery too men being aggressive and assertive and savage? Yes, and I think that can be taken to to an extreme where it's not good. Welcome or good for fighting and I think it mostly When allowed is oh, yeah, you did that whole video on the fucking the water man or something like that Yeah, that was hysterical. Everyone loved that I know That's great. Yeah, that was that was a good one um But wait, what was it? Oh, yeah nice guys. Yeah, okay. I'm gonna go back to my dancing I feel like nice guys Are like, hey, would you like to dance with me? I'm a really good dancer and I'll buy you a drink also If you dance with me and then you and then they're like, uh Okay. Yeah. Yeah, you can buy me a drink. I'll dance with you And when you set up, it's like wimpy. You know what I mean? It's like wherever well We can go in this direction for dancing or we can go in this direction That's what nice guys will do to try to please you Like wherever you want to go. I'll go there with you but women need that pressure And and yeah, what they really want is they want to go where you want to go? Well, they they Hopefully well women want to know or think That they have that a man has chosen them out of tons of tons of women And when and what I see nice guys doing or a version of it It's finding a woman that they really like or are interested in And then being like I declare myself for you. You're worth it and women are like, ah You have no other options. Yeah Oh god, am I the last person just like bare repellent for women It's it is certainly repellent and I think that's I mean, I would I would have to know the exact terms of nice guy because I have my own version And maybe we're on the same side of that, but I think so Yeah, it's the niceness that we're all referring to is not it's not very genuine 80% of it's disingenuine a little bit of it maybe is but it's But a lot of it is just like it's it's like very they call it Dr. Robert Glover one of our speakers a marriage and family therapist to him He calls it covert contracts I don't know if he coined the term or not, but this is one example of it It's these little secret Thing is that the nice guy is doing their head and they're like for example, there's a I don't know if you ever seen brick and morty, but This little cartoon character. He has like a punch card of like being nice to a girl And he's like punching it as he's being nice or and then to have sex with her And this is basically this is a perfect illustration of a covert contract because it's like It's like they're they're storing up these in the favorites that differ some girl and then they're like surprise I want to fuck The girl's like, oh my god get away from me. You know, I don't want your evil beta sperm. I hope you die It's a total mind fuck like for that. I get and these dudes are like, oh, good. What happened? It worked in the Disney movie And uh, that's funny. It's fucked. Yeah I mean a lot of times too the guys that they relied to by feminism and crap and they actually They really think this is gonna work. They they're not doing it because they're like They're they're not doing is I think it's gonna blow up in their face They're doing it even as it's blown up in their face 20 times before They're doing it because they actually think it's gonna work this time. It's kind of insane because they're doing the same shit over and over again Yeah Yeah, yeah nice guys need to know I mean, okay. Okay. How about this? You have a nice guy a genuinely nice guy who Has done shit for the past year to become an interesting human being to men and women, right? Now you got this fucking nice interesting dude Now he starts to bring Now he starts to become a magnet for women. Okay And now when he meets a woman who's great He can still be nice to her but she can smell on him competition Why is her competition because he's worth it and he's not going to be a dick to her But he's going to be uh with manners let her know that she's not the chosen one yet Because he has choices the chosen one It's funny. All right. Does that make am I saying that in a way that makes sense? I think so. Yeah Yeah, that's that I want to move on to I have some more questions. I want to get through but actually I forgot about almost forgot about this stuff Let's pull this up. Okay, so Yeah, we'll do this one Okay, so the one and only Tommy Lauren as you know, I don't know if you did you do a responsive video tour? I guess I could check I did uh-huh Yeah, I mean she went off in a rant, you know, she turned 28 recently She went off in this rant bitching about men and blah blah blah and how great she is and her friends And then I tweeted some responses at her when I was on uh in south Dakota recently I don't even know what the fuck I still have to search what I tweeted. I don't even know what I tweeted at her And somehow she found it and she fucking blocked me So I found this out on saturday. I was done Uh, this is really funny to me But talk to me about Tommy Lauren and what you thought about that just in brief Without everyone. Uh, by the way, there's a link in the description guys to go check out and subscribe to Jennifer's channel And you should do that But without getting into your whole Tommy Lauren response. What was the gist of what you thought about her? her screeching um I was I was embarrassed for her You know like I I said, I don't like whining, right If you have to whine a little bit inside to to figure out what the root problem is really Fine, but she wasn't Mostly I felt bad because she was probably raised in a time Where she was sold that those that the things that she was attracted to in men Were the same thing that a man was looking for Yes, this is a one point what we need to hear And it's not the same thing When I did that video, um, there was a lot of guys who said Tatiana sounds awesome You know because remember in the in the rant she was like if you want to be with Tatiana Who's just as nice and gets along And doesn't have this strong ambition then go find her and guys are like Tatiana sounds like a cool check you know because men don't want to come home and be and Why can't speak for all men? Because there are certainly men who do want this but Yeah, but you can you can speak generally though. I think most men are gonna side with what you're about to say that they don't want some You know attorney who works 60 hours a week and is super strong independent, you know ultra ambitious woman. It's like, uh, no I want a woman who knows how to like sew and cook gluten-free cookies Yeah, and that's uh, that's what I said in the fuck the roll out of men video like you're supposed to be a home you're not supposed to be Listen, I I Men are aggressive More aggressive than than women and I don't mean like rule, but they do they they have their own. I'd love to watch men it's so neat because They they push themselves, you know, there's own strength That i'm witnessing with men and and that's what they do Out in the world because it's important to to have wins and and set goals and achieve goals and provide for a family And be like the beast of the family, but when you walk in the door, you don't want to Beast against your woman That's when that is the time That you have You have earned the time to spend with a woman who will be there for you and calm you and rub your shoulders and and honor and praise and Feel glee for everything you've accomplished out in the world But when you have a woman who's also Uh, what's the internalize internalized misogyny? I mean you just don't understand You need feminists reeducation is what you need to be you go to a reeducation camp bernie camp should be good for you Oh Like to stop being a man. Is that what you're saying? No, I'm just I'm just trying to dry humor today. Got it. Sorry. I didn't get it Yeah, I'm sorry I hate when people don't get what I'm saying. Um So my apologies, but yeah, I That's what I think that's what men want They want this awesome awesome woman Who know who has the gluten-free cookies or the full fat cookies or the butter cookies and the sewn and darn the socks And and look how pretty look how pretty the house looks when you pull up and the garden looks great And the roses are pretty and we're having fresh cucumbers and And this is my home and this is why I go out into the world Yeah, these are the highest quality the woman you're referring to that do these things and that that Advocate for that and then actually do that they're the highest quality woman you can find in my opinion Or at least one one category of that And that's most of them today in america just have totally totally forgotten that not only have they forgotten that They have been brainwashed to be hostile and aggressive towards anything to do with living that way Yes, like it's evil and the devil and it's just sexism and blah blah blah I was endless nazi male supremacist nazi bullshit And it's like this ridiculous like my grandma was it was a gift an example and a positive of these things And she was the happiest woman I've ever met. Yes, I mean for you know until she died at 91 years old Yeah, and you had a lot of grandbabies and babies and all these things and love the great life And when you compare that to the bitchy cat ladies in the cat kingdoms of today Drowning and cheap cheap boxed wine and cat hair. It's like You've just ruined your life. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? It just sucks Yeah, a lot of them are doomed I know but and I don't want to make excuses, but I want everyone to remember That the human mind is so malleable Oh, yeah, I mean I mean think about The fucking nazis like all that took was a couple years of of brainwashing And then and then everyone's Economic collapse too. I mean the whole The money and all that shit were those from money. So there you had a couple things occurring, but yeah, it was all psychological stress And then you radicalize them and before you know people are fucking gas chambers Yes, and and that's what I I It's women believing this and then believing it more and then men kind of getting on board to what get their dick wet Or because they really think it and then and then there's this pressure and then there's people like you and me who are like No, no, please. There's a better way and And hopefully we can get into the minds and start them vibrating on on that knowledge Instead of the brainwashing Almost anything other than feminism will take at this point. I mean this shit is so toxic I don't other than communism. It's hard to name something more toxic than feminism and the thing is with feminism It is infiltrated every part of american and western life in america, canada, the uk, australia all these western nations It's everywhere. It's in school. It's in the home. It's in the workplace. It's in the government. It's in the military It's in the entertainment. It's in tv. It's in movies. It's in children's books It's in fucking everything all the time every day of the fucking week And it's the propaganda is so heavy It's Six-year-old. I'm a little feminist Oh, that reminds me. I should get you check this out Little book you should give that kid My red hat It's a kid's book. Yeah, a modern anti-bullying book Uh, my friend socrates and his, uh, buddy. I forget the other guy's name Uh, morgan bloomberg. They wrote it. Yeah, they were actually married at the convention and they put this book together It's on amazon It's awesome. That's cool. Yeah, it's something super dope Oh, here. I'll do a plug for something that's not mine for any parents out there There's a book series called the tuttle twins and it teaches about self-responsibility and It's antisocialism Right and and knowing your rights and doing the right thing and following the non-aggression principle and volunteer relationships Anyway, it's it's pretty tight. That was a side but well speaking of the So we were talking about here though with women and what they You know nurturing and the home these things Uh for man to come home to and all these things. So talk to me about you're probably familiar with this meme This was put up by uh, I forgot her full name, but the transfer on wife at the transfer in wife.com Oh, she's cute. Yeah. Well, this is a meme she put out probably two years ago two and a half And it says men prefer dead free virgins without tattoos Uh, this one's super viral once you put it on her work or she's like a wordpress blog And uh, it was all over. It was a huge rage for like months. The feminists just went ballistic with this thing They did Probably goes the girl's cute and then it's the the font is nice And then it says something that's like To the feminist or the yeah the feminist Well, this is actually the basis too of make woman great again. This was the iconic image I used in my speech when I revealed the slogan and the hat and I thought it as a meme anyway and a Distillation of like at least the direction women should head in This was fantastic. And the reason it pissed so many women off or thing the feminists is that Men do prefer dead free virgins without tattoos Almost universally like 99 of us Anthony, it's not only that but it's that most of the women that have read that have tattoos are on heavy debt And aren't versions. So it's it's it's hitting their identity Yep of what they already are they can't even they can't even well they could undo it with Um debt getting tattoos removed, but yeah It's fresh. Do you think do you think this is a good direction for women to head in? Yeah, I yes I think this is a far more important And holistic Goal That would probably resonate with women more. You know what Anthony what I see the problem No, what I see one of the problems is is that there's no I hate to say this, but there's no like cool role models for for girls about femininity, you know, it's like And and who they have as role models are boobs out and and just like super loud hair and loud makeup and aggressive and and screaming and powerful and Like Cardi B and Molly Cyrus. Yes. Yes So they just they watch that and they're like, oh well Look at their they're pretty and they're getting money and fame and I'll do that too And there's not any there's I can't say that there's far just going only fans You get a lot of money. Look at that one trick that checked us made two million dollars and only fans I know I just watched the thing on that and then she bailed. She didn't even fulfill her promise So then yeah stink, but There's a rule for that brifalt's law. They call it I think it's like when a woman gets brifalt's law, it's not even from the manisphere The manisphere just picked up on years ago brifalt like b r i f a l ut Brifalt's law and it's basically when a woman has maximized I'm not I'm gonna fuck I'm gonna butcher the definition of this but When a woman has maximized her relationship and no longer gets benefit from a man Uh, and this is like not like mammals not just human beings She'll like just ditch And that's kind of I'm surprised. No, there's an article on the app. That's kind of what that uh, what was her name? Oh the girl. Yeah, I don't know the actress. Whatever the fuck. Yeah, Bella Thorne. I think it was her name I'm coat man. I think it was that Yeah, she just got all the money and then bailed Why would she follow through on it? Who cares like assuming she doesn't get any legal trouble Then she'll just be like whatever adios bitches Give me that money. It's like dine and ditch when you're at a restaurant like dine and dash Yeah, like not pay for it With two million dollars I know and and and that's what I'm I'm trying to reach is Okay, guess what dine and dash is illegal not fulfilling your obligation Your side of an obligatory contract that you have signed It's illegal, but I want to touch people's personal integrity. Like I wish I could talk to him be like I mean like what about Your soul does that echo that that's okay to do You know, I mean I think there's always going to be a portion of the female population that will do things like this stripping hooking escorting call girls Cam girls porn stars But I think what's happened is that we've seen that segment That used to be much smaller the population that behavior has expanded into the bell curve It's expanded into this is I saw one of my speakers last year Alexander Cortez talk about this And I thought a perfectly encapsulated in his speech Just type chadzilla into our channel and should follow up This dude is like legit chadzilla. He's like a tyrannosaurus rucks. It's like a sexual tyrannosaurus like predator Okay, he's ridiculous Anyway giga chad super giga chad But he did a great presentation on this seriously about this issue And I really think you have to nail on the head that I really don't have a problem with porn stars existing and hookers and strippers and I think prostitution should be legalized from a freedom perspective I don't know the government has any role to dictate what consenting adults are going to do and a transaction like that and That's my libertarian thing But that behavior that's spreading to a huge chunk of the population is not normal And it's not healthy and it's not good and there needs to be social cultural pushback against that This this is fucked up and it's going to probably ruin your life very quickly Well, and I'm all about like I want you to I want you to rest your weary head every night knowing that you made every Every decision that you made was with integrity Because because there will come a day of reckoning where you will have to look at yourself in the mirror and go I could have done better for the past 10 years You know, so I want to wake women up Be like I just start doing good today and then stack that day on another day in another and another yep Yeah, when we got to change like my thing actually with 22 convention. I wanted to pull that up to That's how we connected basically, you know the make women great again convention Um, you know a lot of people in the media they think there's two things they missed They really missed when they attacked the so we had all the media and stuff and they went after it But two of the things they missed I think was that they focused too much on the convention itself as a physical conference And they didn't do enough research into what we're actually doing which is filming professional filming at a tv studio the speeches Which we then and you know have indefinitely for life So long as the lights stay on and civilization exist And they then replay on the internet forever We have speeches we filmed 10 years ago that get viewed 500 times a day All in the world every day every day I want to change the course of generation for america and for women and for men and for these relationships gender relations And the videos that would do that the conference itself. It doesn't matter how many women come I don't care As long as we have the money to do it, which we do It's all that matters what matters to me then is getting the videos on the internet And the feminists will get triggered and start screaming whatever and they'll spread the videos And they'll reach millions of women again And my goal is to not even change the course of millennial women, which I just don't think a lot of them are going to do it for whatever reason psychologically and all that But I really want to influence gen z woman and that's also what the media and these the attackers these feminists missed My focus is on gen z and younger. What do they call them gen c or something? I don't know Yeah, the young these young girls like they're going to be I want them when they're 18 You know soon or maybe if they're 13 or 14 When they're 18 they can go on youtube and find these videos that are floating around the internet and stuff And they can make a different decision because right now a woman lacks so much Like you're saying with the feminine role models. There are fucking none. Where is the education to be a good woman today? Unless you have a grandmother or a tight community like the Mormons or something You don't have that you have nothing except cardi b and fucking only fans That's how you learn how to be a woman. I mean, holy fuck I know like I was thinking I was thinking about my daughter In in nine years when she's 16. I thought it'd be so cool to have like a sweet 16 party of of women that Are actually feminine and and have a skill set and and And Honor their role to like come almost like a secret little society because I want her to feel special And I want her to be to be taken in from women who aren't who aren't singing the praises of feminism We're not like now listen You don't let you you don't have a guy do this. You don't you make the decisions, you know like But to have her influence strongly Like it's so important because it is in uh It's okay to be a woman. It's actually good to be a woman. I think it's a very positive It's so special To act like it Yeah, I think it's fucking great. Yeah when I went to Poland last year for a convention I got to see not only beautiful fit women everywhere or just fucking awesome No fat girls no pajama pants no yoga pants none of this bullshit But on top of that they were very feminine. They were feminine on the outside They the way they dress the way they carry themselves and they were feminine on the inside And I was like in heaven it was like it was like 1950s America with iPhones I was like, this is fucking great and women are very responsive and like they hate feminism They get stupid like all this stuff. They love the hat. I was walking around the hat and shit Can I ask you a question? What is your definition of femininity? A femininity. Yeah, like when you said that these women were feminine inside and out Can you explain that? Sure, I'll give my best philosophic take of it and it would be that's similar for masculinity too So I would see femininity as a woman acting in a way that is directly in accordance with their own Biological and evolutionary nature evolutionary nature as a woman I'm not religious or there's no really religious components to that But I don't have a problem with people who are like, well god made nature And then nature, you know, femininity is this and that and all that a lot of that's actually very good But I see that femininity as being a woman in an alignment with your nature as a woman As has occurred through evolution for a couple hundred thousand years And specific again to your biology and how you're different from a man And for man is the same thing It's being in alignment with your own nature as a man with the way you've evolved The way all of your paternal ancestors behaved how that's influenced you epigenetically the way they ate The way they fucked the way they lived the way they behaved the way they engage with other human beings So I think it's a really couple hundred thousand years of history for men To be masculine and then for women to be feminine And we've lost sight of that today massively and if we don't figure this out soon I think the civilization is going to collapse western civilization specifically where it's the worst I'm really happy. I'm really happy with your Articulation of that Thank you. All right. That was really well worded Thank you Thank you You're welcome. This is great. I told you we'd have a good time. This is great Yeah, I really appreciate you two coming out to the 22 convention. I've invited a few different youtubers and influencers It's tough because of covet. I mean so many flights are fucked up and all this bullshit So I know and people are frightened and but I think it's important You know, like like you said, it's not so much about the convention But the thing is is this is It is it's going to take physical effort to get There which means you have a pay in And now you're going to be around physically and with the energy of like-minded people And that's really important for like like I'm getting a lot of energy from this conversation. I feel really good right now So being so being Around other people All you're going to do is like fill your energy up like yes, okay I'm not alone in this in this way of thinking. I'm not alone in my goal And then they can go out into the world and every one of us can have this like unique light and hopefully We'll draw some people into it and then we can all come back and become strong and And that's why this is This is exactly how the men feel when they attend the convention when they leave they save these exact kind of things It's so rare. I mean so many for men. We've seen, you know They used to be bowling alleys and barbershops and all these kind of things and they can meet up There's very little that today a lot of that's been either it just has died off for whatever reason or feminists and women have infiltrated it Kind of men's clubs and all these things And the manisphere and live events from the manisphere including and especially I think 21 convention for the men Is a resurgence of that and it's an exclusively male space. It's a safe space to be masculine to be men It's a very safe space very fine space But they get to be around men for days four or five days even and they get to be Talk about all these issues how it's negatively affecting men and america and gender relations But then also the positives of what they can do to combat it to make themselves better To be better men to be the best men they can be to be the best fathers. They can be at the patriarch edition So it's a lot of uh A lot of you know looking at the negativity of the world and then also a lot of the positivity and what they can do for themselves How they can work together that book I showed you the the little myriad hat is a perfect example of that A speaker and an attendee met at the conference. The attendee had graphic artist skills It's a really amazing little book all the artwork and stuff And they worked together to create the book and it took like a year Maybe not even and then they had this fucking book and now it's for kids And I think it's the first kids book to ever come out of the man's sphere That is awesome Historic that's cool. But it's but it's energy too like you're talking about I'm not in all this woos stuff But I don't mind it as an analogy, but it's it's a very positive energy and they feel It just feel fucking awesome when they leave because it's an awesome experience I mean energy is real. We're not I mean someone can put you someone can you can feel that or you can feel happy and that Yeah, totally. Yeah Some of some of the guys I know some of the guys I like they go into this stuff and it's like super far like I don't know all this deep super vibrational energy is the universe and this and that it is what it is I don't know. I've seen enough things in my life that hey, I'm open to a lot of things You know if it happens if it that ends up being true. Hey, cool. Whatever Uh Yeah I I get that. Um, I don't I don't want to feed the lust fires of Of the problems of the world, but but you know, you were talking about your men's convention That it's it's a place. It's a safe space for men Like I have a meet-up and I always call it a safe space for people who hate safe spaces Like you can say whatever you want. You're fine, you know, but there was um I I've been a fine dining server for a long time and there's a guy Who a super awesome dude tons of money like just dripping with money And he there's a club here in Colorado Springs That is only men and it costs the money to get into and that is really important It's just a place for the dudes to go and talk Shit that they wouldn't say in front of their wives or whatever And they had had the same bartender for like 30 years and he retired and then they hired a woman Wow So all these men are paying all this money for the for the privilege of Being around each other and then And then and then there's this woman that gets hired And now it's it's so bad and you know, they're like, yeah, I could probably say things But I'm just not comfortable anymore You know because women are weird. I know they didn't say that but I'm saying that, you know anymore You could say men and women are men and women are different This is a foundational saying we have in the hemisphere and it was pioneer I don't know pioneer but spearheaded by Andrew the private man who died of unfortunately eyeball cancer a couple years ago One of our speakers really rare. Yeah, he was he loved saying this and he was just all about it Men and women are different men and women are different men and women are different how different how similar that's a debate But they're different. They're fundamentally different in important ways And when you bring a woman, yeah to a men's space like that, it tends to ruin it very quickly There can be ways around that like, you know, I'll let my sister attend the conference for the men But she stays out of the way and people get to know who she is and they they trust and respect her It is to a big degree some of the wives will let come into the conference, but We're very very very selective about any woman coming into the conference They have to be have like a very specific reason that they're there and know somebody So they get not we don't we don't let women come to the conference. Otherwise the answer is no And also with the woman's conference. No men are allowed to attend the 22 convention I want it to be a space for women to be feminine and not have They'll be men speakers, you know, we're going to do the mansplaining 100 man's planning Which is wonderful. It's a woman need they love mansplaining, but And they need mansplaining. I think today more than ever But also in terms of the audience and their get-togethers and things like that. It's for them I don't want them to have a woman's space and they're going to figure this shit out And that's gonna be a very positive feminine thing able to be sewing, you know, who knows what make sandwiches like I make a sandwich I just want Yeah, I'm just trolling at this point, but uh, no, but sandwiches are important You know, it's funny because my my husband came in we were talking about masculinity or something and he said Whatever just make me a sandwich and I was like, oh, well, what kind do you want? And he's like, no, I'm just kidding. I'm like, oh, I was like already to be like, oh, whatever We only have ham, but I can go to the store for turkey And I was really ready to jump on that, but I never I wouldn't see that as a negative Yeah So I know you got to wrap up and you got to go in a few minutes Yeah, but is there anything you want to any last points or I like another 20 questions I wanted to get to We made it we made it through we made it through uh, quite a few things. We've got the tommy lauren the migthau the nice guys I guess the last thing is uh, do you have any kind of comments on make woman great again in the 22 convention that you know When viral this year and hit we had a lot of media like I you know, I was saying that just appears morgan From the marketing to the speakers like when you first saw this, what was your thought about make woman great again? Unlimited babies and 100 make your razor femininity by 500 I mean this was so upsetting to so many women. I've just I had such a great time laughing about it No, when I see when I see this I think of like it's about time because Okay, because it seems like all the women's groups I call them goddess groups like oh jennifer you should join our goddess group And then we're gonna teach you and and support you for being an entrepreneur and like killing it, you know, which fine I don't that's fine, but I told my my good friend my female friend I said let's start a women's group that is like that teaches us how to sew and you know pointers for for cooking and Just all the array of things to talk about as a as a woman because there's not that right now. So with this it's it's um It's just a welcomed and uh rare thing Yeah, just see and same with the convention for men. Honestly like I I've met In the past couple years. I've met men that host men meetups, right? The last guy that I met that said, oh, yeah, we have I host a A men's meetup about about masculine. I'm like, oh like what about it? He's like, well, we just talk about How we have to reign in our toxic masculinity Yeah, what an idiot. Yeah, these are not men's groups. These are a soy boy a little baby boy beta boy groups Well We make fun of these guys a lot. It's suck. It's sad though. Like we call them vishi males a lot of time They're vishi males. They could vishi french. They're the vishi males. Oh, like a fish is hot or something. Okay. Yeah, I got it Yeah, no, they're traders. I mean, it's they're they're suicidal in some ways like genetically and as Culturally suicidal. It's beyond stupid to hit to hate on your own Like I don't think women should hate femininity like that's fucking dumb But that's what feminists do the hate woman who want to be woman Hate woman who act like woman the hate woman who like being feminine and like being girly and like being mothers And pursuing prioritizing motherhood for example over career over education Which biologically makes perfect sense given that you had peak fertility at 22 all these things It's scream and you know, you know, Nazi Nazi Nazi or whatever the fuck you know, they hear this stuff. It's crazy Yeah, but I really love the uh I mean, it sounds like the breath of you know, you're saying it's a fresh and a rare thing And I really think that's a big part of why it went viral the mansplaining in particular I thought that was like the final touch I put on the page and I was like, yeah Man, because I knew they're gonna call it that I'm like absolutely fucking Superman, you know into the punch on that Yeah, you got you got to you got to get ahead of them like that. Yeah Do you think you know find a question then do you think women today do they need mansplaining? Is that like one of the most important things they can get? Well, they need to listen to um I think they need to Open their mind to the idea that the path that they're on might not be the right one or the one that causes happiness for them or men or children And I think they listen to men and masculine influences. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying like just open your mind Just for a minute and just and just listen And I think it is very important instead of like the guys that you know, when I would say that I I don't like feminism and they were saying things like I want all women to be raped and how how dare I and I'm the worst woman ever like I Listen to these men listen to some men some men All right, fuck. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I appreciate you come on the show today. It was a blast Yeah, it's been fun. We should do another one sometime. We'll be at the event. I mean, I would be down You know because this was fun and sometimes You know, I'm always in a good mood But some some phone calls are happier than others But this is very uplifting for me and I and I really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you. 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