 Oh, yes. Hi. Good morning, 11 o'clock Welcome to our presentation OpenStack and cars the OpenStack journey of the Volkswagen group My name is Holger. I'm responsible for the IT infrastructure and the cloud project in the Volkswagen group and Beside me on the stage is Thelma and Thelma is our IRS guy I would say too much responsible for the on-premise installation of our OpenStack solution First of all OpenStack and cars for sure I will say something about cars. The Volkswagen group is a group of 12 successful brands with different Portfolios we not just have cars. We also we Audi, you know that we Bentley Bugatti We have also motorbikes to cut the Lamborghini We also built trucks and buses with MN Porsche as well Scania belongs to the group Seat Skoda VW and VW light commercial vehicles The last guys are the just fancy buses that I have. I love this car. Yeah, I have three kids So I need this. Okay, you see we have a huge portfolio on products and We are located all around the world We have 167 location in the world. We have more than 600,000 employees in the group and we produced Nearly 10 million cars per year That means per day we produce 45,000 cars per day We're not just producing this also sell them. Awesome. Yeah, and you can imagine that you needed a lot of IT support to Support our core business from today, but this business will be changed in the future future Because we are living in the age of disruption US IT guys, you know that we have disruption open-stake is one of them and we are familiar with them But in the automotive industry disruption are not so usual during the last years Yeah, that's it But now what happened the speed of innovation are increasing dramatically. I will give you some short samples First of all sustainability. I mean you all Who have electric car in this room? Please raise your hand to electric car three electric three I'm sure when we are staying here in five years that will be a other picture That mean first of all we have to reinvent Or we have to develop new electric cars That sounds very easy, but you have to imagine we have a lot of developers They developed engines and gearboxes You never need that or you need other engines, but you don't never need gearboxes in the future And we have to bring this guys to a new way that means they have to change their I will not say their mind, but their knowledge Yeah, we need that for the future to develop this cars But we have to also change it for these guys. Yeah, and the next thing is urbanization When I was 18, I Want to own a car. So it was awesome. Yeah, I was very proud of them. I can tell you everything Regarding this car how many horsepower they have and one and I was really proud to own a car I'm sure when you go now to Barcelona City and ask an 18-old guy Do you want to own a car? I'm sure that The mindset are changed a little bit and now they want to move the mobile or something like that But they want to be mobile. This is the issue. Yeah, they don't want to really own a car, but they want to use shared mobility solution and for us as a car manufacturer That is a challenge to offer new business models based on that We will shift from a car manufacturer to mobility provider in the future And for that we need new business models and for that for this new business models. We need new RT solutions Last thing digitalization Today Who have in a self-driving car in this room? Okay Today most of you Really really self-driving cars. I don't talk about a Tesla or something like that I had the chance on the test track to drive from the self-driving cars and it was really awesome and Afraid also, but really really awesome. And we will give people they are not Mobile by his own today the possibility in the future For instance when you who if you have kids that bring them to the school every morning Perfect, you know that you have to park in front of school and fight with the other parents to find the parking slot and How does it? Or we want to give you the chance that you said your kids in the car the self-drive Well, yeah and self-driving car and set it to the school and This car will do that that was some of this ideas for the future and also the change Yeah, will you get a receipt for the kids? Yeah, I will do that by the way What I want to say is that now we have to focus on new products on new solutions And we have to do that also for the IT that we can provide this new solution because we will invent cars for this are my kids I'm very proud of them and We have to build products for that and on the left side you see this new ID I don't know who has the chance student Paris This is our new electric car for the future and that's what we want to achieve in the future Yeah Back to our developers to our car developers. They really guys they Develop our awesome cars. Let's have a look at what happened in the product developer and a digital enterprise Starting in the early 19th. We have a drawing board Then in the 80s something awesome happened CID computer a design will become into our company Then 1995 you have the 3d modeling and design and today We have virtual reality Really cool things that this guy's added. We really have some solutions based on virtual reality in our company and There are some awesome things on YouTube you can try that it but a virtual reality is Also, the other thing that in the past to be developed cars. We produce cars. We made bare metal cars Yeah, I'm driving against the wall and find it out about what kind of things are broken It was very expensive by the way And now we also do it virtual that means we need a huge HPC power We have more virtual cars than in the past But what will happen in the nearly future? There will be Autonomous development and production that means Not a human will develop something And not the human will produce something. I Have a short sample You can see Bicycle and this are developed by the computer Based on an algorithm and Developed by human for sure, but the computer will do that Yeah, we will develop this bicycle based on different Algorithm and also is stable enough and all the things and on the end there will be a product developed by the computer and This bicycle can Produced by a computer Roboter and so on and this business already changed our our game and Our answer is We build up several labs all around the world. We have a data lab in Munich These guys are care about the big data issue This is awesome What kind of data do we have and the really and it's our data? Yeah, our data from our customers and Very interesting things. We have a digi lab in Berlin. These guys are my software development Really awesome. We have a lab in San Francisco We have a the a nation up and we have the smart production lab These guys are care about these things. They happen in our factory on the assembly line Roboter communication IOT solutions all the things and The virtual engineering labs these guys are make this fancy glasses and do something with them But we have several more we open something in someone in Beijing I heard that we also go to Barcelona versus labs and these labs are little startups some are really huge startups, but startups and they also Located in different locations, not just in our headquarters in Wolfsburg and they really They really act like a startup But with that a challenge will come the core B model IT Let me be on the mode one and we have the mode to IT And that it is really a challenge because you have to ensure that the experience that these guys are made you can adapt to the Existing word, I will say yeah I will come later to this point again because from my point of view is very very important that you have a solution for that and The solution is not my point of view to separate them You find a way to adapt the ideas from the mode to To the mode one, but there's also a lot of things that you can adapt from the mode one to the mode two as well This is our infrastructure roadmap and the Volkswagen group that means we started with In the past you see some operation systems. They are still existing Somebody asked me what kind of hardware and operating system do you have in your data center? We have everything there Every nice sales guy are sold as the technology and we have everything We have a lot of bare-and-battle servers and and for sure all these guys are told me Yeah, HP Rick's is the best in the world and I need it I'm familiar with that and we need it in the future as well But now we make the step and we developed a new standard application platform based on x86 We have the key VM as a virtualization layer on top and the reted Linux and thus will be our standard application platform for the I will call mode one application That's really huge step. Yeah, and then we start our cloud project based on OpenStack we Developed or we implement implemented a private cloud But we also focus on the hybrid cloud approach We also have a talk with several public cloud providers to adapt them to our solution Yeah, short overview of the project as I already mentioned we started two years ago with this first step the standard virtualization And we started with our cloud project one and a half year ago. It is not really a long time and We are very successful with step one was in the OpenStack IRS platform After that we are finished last year with that we go live with them We have a new data center in our headquarter in Wolfsburg and we scale out in this new data center doing this layer and then in a step three We also put our peer or we make the decision for our past layer that is cloud foundry from Pivotal we put it on top of our IRS solution and Now we in the situation that we in the step four that means the global rollout and also to develop new products on this cloud Yeah, and we also have Application running on our cloud that Tillman showed in the yesterday presentation one of them and Really awesome. We the guys are really like our solution and I remember very well when we have Discussion how many notes do we need to start and yeah? Do we really need them today? We are over committed that it is and We also want to scale out Our word but to say something more about the details. That's why German here to man. Yeah so Yeah, we are as Holger pointed out at the start of a journey We do have in Wolfsburg a couple of productive stages Other brands do Cloud installations which are focused on other things like Hadoop and and things so we in total we come to Five productive stages. We have QA as well and development As of May we had a Capacity of 150 servers Roughly a terabyte of a petabyte of I don't get used to petabytes Sorry about this There's a storage guys are laughing there You are the server guy But the sport of that will be really new they will end in the future. Yeah, there will be blood lines Yeah, so roughly a petabyte of self-storage and over 250 tenants running as Holger pointed out we are very happy with the IS a solution we have from Arantas We do have a structured path layer with cloud foundry Pivotal cloud foundry, which is running quite well as well so quite happy and And Holger said it as well. It's not the only cloud business we do. We have a team dedicated to our hybrid cloud Solutions because we are fully aware that we that we will not fulfill any demands We buy on our own. This is just not possible and From various point of view point of views That's right, I can Please let me come a little bit back to to this discussion of storage in the server I will tell you a story. I mean when we start with a project We we have to pick up some guys from there I will say from the line organization and the first discussion that we have what is set It's belong to the storage guys. It's belong to the server guys the storage guys told me hey This our disk and disk is directly in the server. This is Scary things that we need our son. We need our nice. This isn't that nothing to do with storage That this could be happened by the server guys and the server guys comes is Storage guys that I'm not familiar with that and go away on by the way This is software what's that and where we put it in our line? Organization and we really have struggled with that and but we find a solution. I will talk that later on So this this building block legal kind of thing should Should tell you that there is more to the whole cloud business and open-stack open-stack is a is a vital part of of our private cloud Thing but there is lots of lots more And this also shows you That's a traditional Quite strict lines between storage and network Service they get blurred and firewalls as well Many many firewalls lots of them IDS IPS and so they get blurred and We had to adopt our operational model to do it and we are still doing this adaption but It becomes more and more apparent that we will have more functions in one team But this team is not dedicated to the cloud and this is a point which is Diep to both of us we will deploy people in In mode one in traditional IT and in mode two at the same time for For various reasons one reason is that we need the expertise of these people in their special field like being it networking being it Firewalling Being storage or or service This is one reason the other reason is that we strongly want to infect people With good techniques in the cloud like configuration management all these things and We are still a bit Fighting now. It's not fighting. We are struggling What to color these building blocks, but but we do a good job I think all of them and there are a lot of people here on here would who participate in this job So it's a it's an awesome journey and I'm I'm proud being being surrounded by A lot of cool guys Yeah, and this should tell you that it's Not about Not about OpenStack alone. We do have cloud foundry by the way Volkswagen is now a member of the cloud foundry foundation as well as of the OpenStack Foundation We do have Elba solutions we have we will have DNS as a service Which at person comes from every? we do have DB as a service or we are implementing it so there are lots of services and In the under cloud we have networking quite additional Moving packets from one From one server to another We have OpenStack we have monitoring logging All these things which used to be a separate department even a separate department or a separate separate team And now they somehow merge and the system is getting very very huge quite complicated But manageable which strikes me a lot it it somehow does work So I'm I'm both glad and At times scared But what this is about is that we need a lot of add-ons and all of them need to be installed and They need to be managed and there is there needs to be somebody who is responsible for this That's right. Thanks. Thanks Simon for that and Next steps. Yeah, we will grow a lot. That's why we talk with hardware vendors a lot Next step is to We are we have for various reasons Takes a decision to have a my multi-cloud Environment not one cloud stretched over over several Locations One is that it's easier to manage The resilience is if done correctly higher The next step is that we will add the headquarters of one of our brands Namely Skoda in Lada Boleslav in the Czech Republic Do the next Conceal the larger cloud It's supposed to have roughly 150 compute nodes and lots of storage. I know that it's better so I Try to memorize And we will go for Asia quite likely Singapore and then America but Locations have not been decided Right now there are some assumptions. We are working on but locations have not been decided for sure So that by end of Next year we we will be able to to provide gear resilience for for for applications who are prepared to use it and take appropriate measures to to do this for our private cloud environment and we want to achieve this to fulfill the demand that we come also with our Hyper cloud that means public cloud approach that we have still. Yeah, and that will be I I'm saying that we will have this solution Until the end of this year that we have the possibility to use public cloud resources Like we want to do it professional in the future. It does not mean that the developer guys are research credit card and Buy something and start to develop the early enterprise ready approach. I would say Thanks, Salman for that Our experiences I Guess you already know some of these points, but you have to Imagine or you have to keep in mind that we are not an IT company We are a car manufacturer But the role of the IT are changing now in our company extremely and some of this experience are based on this Situation that we had in the past and now the game is changed First of all when your developers They are one of them. Hi Ricardo. Yeah, and we we really are close in touch with the skies and the very early point that means You When you think about what kind of service should be delivered To the skies you have to talk with them You have to catch them very early and we also have you have a lot of internal developers But they are focused as I already mentioned to the mode one We have some developers. They are still familiar with Motu application with cloud native application 12 factor apps and so on and you have to Identify this guy's catches guys bring into the team and don't separate them. Yeah, as I already mentioned We have no longer the storage guys. We have no longer the network guys or the compute guys or the Developer guys. We also think we develop products for our Private cloud up to now and we also going the way that means you build you run it that means this guys who develop this product This team will be also responsible for the operation when your developers They are really nice guys Cloud first as an enterprise strategy. Yeah, it makes no sense to deliver I would say Infrastructure very fast very soon when you have no strategy regarding to develop your application and the folks one group The decision is made we follow the strategy that Accord cloud first that means all new application For the new business models that we need I already mentioned it will be developed on cloud native Or will we have a cloud native approach? communicate cloud initiatives to IT and business do it every time do it again and again and again and again and Be but please start small and scale fast that means Very often it happens that When our business departments or tea guys talk about clouds You have really awesome discussions. What does cloud means? Yeah You have the situation that when the project are have the operational costs are too too high and I cannot Reach my project plan. What I have to do our cloud Go into the cloud. We made the decision going to the cloud and everything will be fine and you have to communicate with this guys again and again and Describe them what what is our cloud approach? What does cloud means and we also want to Provide our solution not just to our developers guys We call it cloud for everybody. That means we will also Will offer our cloud solutions for our business departments. That means our sales guys Our developers or car developers and all the things much air as well and Have an answer to the question. Why do we need a private cloud? I had a lot of discussion regarding this Yeah, but it will be I'm sure that you have enough answer of that Okay, but you have to be prepared there was yesterday. There was a lot of some really awesome presentation regarding this issue and Yeah, you find a lot of answers The most important thing for my point of view based of our experience that we had is Take care about your operational model It is easy to install an open-stack installation to make it up and running But the operational is the thing that you have to care about it what you can see here Promises a cool by 95% of private cloud approach the failure to change the operational model when you have no answer to that you will fail and And What we have done is we build up our our environment with our operational guys my these guys they are Make our linux servers up and running during the day these guys are built up our environment and it's our own guys because I need this experience in the company to adapt all the things to the existing ones and it is maybe a hard approach because We had also some discussion regarding. Hey, why we have a cloud project. Yeah, they are a lot of well-known companies in the world and All of them are sitting in my office and told me you just have to Provide us a little bit space in your data center and we will make everything we will install it We will run it and you don't have to care about it to be honest Some of them I cannot really deliver You have to and in this face that we are in the stage that we made the decision to make it with our own guys and Yeah, it is a success together with Mirantus. They may made a really awesome awesome job Sitting here on the front. Thank you guys again, and they are also responsible for the operational things This is very very important makes operational or my suggestion is make your operation in the very first face by your Maybe later you can you can do something think some things with with a partner or something like that But you have to make your experience or center very early face with your own guys because we also think about We have several network zones in our existing world And we also think about just to install an open-stack environment and in the application zone But these guys I can raise up the test servers By our own and that's mean we have to transfer the knowledge that we have that we Learned and the mode to we want to adapt to the mode one and we have some things Especially optimization is the thing that we learned that we also adapt to this one Then we don't separate it in this area the mode one and mode two we put this guys together At one team about this team is also Responsible for the operation and for the development of new products of our cloud like DNS SSS service and so on Very very important When you forget everything what I said in the last minutes the one thing you have to remember is take care about your operational model And make this experience with your own guys and adopt these into the mode one environment because In the very first approach of a cloud project you will save your money in the mode one Not in the mode two Yeah, when you can adapt this experience that you have with the mode one and A further very very important thing Involve your legal and purchasing guys From the first day also, I saw yesterday a speech from a US company how they did open source and They raised also the the challenges that we have and I never I don't find the the the legal thing from those Slides and they told me I thought that was not a really issue at our side But for a European company and the German company the legal issue. You have to take care about it. It means pick this guys up Go in communication with them because it's also a new world for them Yeah, it's fun on the end of the day. You need a contact. You need a signed contract and These guys also have to agree with them. Do you want to do something to Anna? Okay, but it's could be A success when you talk with them guys again and again again We have a we have an in and we get regular meeting with the legal guys purchasing guys Security security data security guys all things to to chair the experience that we have to learn more about how how does it How does the cloud like to run and opens open source of course for larger enterprises like us is open source the chance to Do something like Save money You know all this fancy license models of some Database Okay, I will not go to and even this in this issue But open source is really an issue in larger companies like us And it's not so easy like a sounds that you use it Install it and you don't have to care about the open source product that you use you have to legal Have to talk with the legal guys and the first chasing guys as well. Yeah, and That's was our experiences obviously. Thank you. Do you have something to add? Yeah, thanks for For giving us the opportunity to Have this talk We obviously are prepared to answer any questions you have if you do have questions They will put on the video and there's a mic here. So please come forward To ask any questions That's the microphone here. Okay so because they're putting this on video and Are you raise your speech? So what we do at present is that we as all are pointed out involve all expertise from all areas so Normally a network guy will be part of the operations team Let's say two days a week and for the other for the other days he will do his Normal networking job the same for storage and so on and they have The responsibility to be Some kind of on duty call. So even if they are not on sides operations there, they will be there was on call with their expert expertise like like networking or fire-walling and So far this did work Well, obviously you have to improve on all things But What I think is is crucial to this is that they That they get a broader mind that they will be involved even if they are a networking guy Into how does a compute node work or how does the MQ the rabbit MQ works in in this and So this was the answer we have a present. Obviously we we want to evolve With our growth and with our experience, but this is a Answer we do have now Does it answer your question? I Will add something it is not as easy as the sound to just Put this network guys bring it to the team and he will he will solve all network issue You will have other network issue then in the existing one and they these guys also have to care about some something more regarding the application how does it run and so yeah, and the I very often it happened ever when we when we have an An incident and I heard from the network guys and never is fine everything's up and running everything's okay But the application not not not work again, and then you also have to care about these things and you use your existing experiences and knowledge from network and add this Or combine this with this application. No, that is very important Don't let let this guys alone in his technology. They have to be open-minded also for I will say for the upper OZ level I will say okay it teaches Teaches people also to take responsible for the whole product and not only for for the sub part so to speak But but do you need to the right guys? I can remember very well. We start with the project There's a lot what what will be our first thing that means or we need or we need training guy We need training session training center the first thing that that I did is we open YouTube to all employees is for the sky So they go to YouTube and find out your private session Yeah, and that's what the approach and the guys are starting now, but now now they happen this guys are told me Yeah, oh, I have a problem. I go to the to Google or YouTube or all these Fancy information on the internet and say oh no other has this problem before now the end situation that we have to Find a solution by our own. Okay Okay The question was why we select open stack and why we go to cloud and what are the alternatives to be honest There were no alternatives to go to go to display because they are and what are the demands to deliver very fast infrastructure solutions Yeah, and they are from my point of view. There is no alternative One thing is to go to the public clouds. Yeah, but as I already mentioned it six percent on On the companies they use clouds have Justin private cloud installation 18% heaven Justin public cloud approach and the other guys have a hybrid cloud approach and We think that With the open stick we find the best solutions that we can have for us because our Strategy is open source. We want to start with open source. We want to avoid render looking. This is also a strategy of us and Yeah, and the first connection with the open stack community was awesome We have some doubts is a huge enterprise like us Belongs to an open source community like the open stack community, but we are Friendly welcomed and we have good conversation with them and we are Sure that the product himself is the right thing for us To add to this for We had some some project before which had cloud in the at least in the title of the project I'm reluctant to to say something about vendors, but they didn't get they didn't work too well So what was quite apparent to? To Holger to his boss to me is that we should go for open stack Because it's as a broad community by far The largest player and the one we we see with most future inside private cloud installations and also Hybrid as well So we focused on decision-taking open stack and then what exactly do we do with open stack? So the question whether or not to do open stack Wasn't really a question in this because we we knew it had to be open because all the closed shops They didn't work too well Does it answer? As Holger said we are doing both we are doing both in parallel, but there are for instance data protection data protection things which force us to have a private cloud for Employee and customer data at least medium term and as I already said We have a lot of data. We we own a lot of data from cars from customers and so on we want to own the data by We want to have this data by us and this is one of the things that we never think about to just have an hybrid Public cloud approach. We are sure from the beginning that we need a private one, but the mix Is for sure the answer to this question. Yeah, for sure for sure IoT is Most important thing that we that we are discussing at this time in the company there we are produced 10 million cars per per year and Most of them are connected now And this are just one IoT issue as I told you that we have this Production that these guys are care about all the things that happen in the assembly line regarding IoT and so on This is really a huge issue and we also discuss what will be the IoT platform in the future This is really discussion that is in the company. Yeah, it could be yeah for sure So as we are quite the end of the time slot are there any Further questions Then doesn't seem to be the case. Thanks again for giving us the opportunity and give a warm warm Greets to all the operations guys here. Yeah, can we stand up please? Can you stand up guys? These guys I make it happen