 Thank you and my favorite mode of being is what I want to call myself as excitement junkie and I really really get very inspired when to work with the clients, the kind of clients I work with and the free and open software clients who Evan described usually are very very similar to how startups are it's one person or two people or three people assign themselves some problem and then they go about solving that and then they discover oh there's some legal issues and we have no money or the patients for all the legalies and it's gonna come with a bin and why are we going to waste our time doing that because we would like to solve a problem and thereafter once we've solved the problem go about raising money either getting rich or just releasing the software and providing services or going about solving another problem and that's where I come into being and to do their work the difference between a free and open source software project and how they view some of the legal issues and how our company's views is pretty stark but what helps is seeing both sides of the coin in the morning it can it's possible that I'm talking to a client of ours whose software is being used by a global corporation and in the evening speaking to them about how they view that side of the issue they're very generous here because the startups or the free software clients cannot afford very expensive we get paid by others to do their work so we get a lot of experience doing different things it's the trademarks it's the copyright it's the patent strategy or it's writing the privacy policy of somebody who is doing a social network or it is writing about content usage policy what are they going to do with your data what are they going to how are they going to use it and considering how now each project or each startup no matter where their head bordered but the goal is always the world so the strategies are different whether it's a patent strategy which may be a different strategy in India than what you want to follow in the United States or in Europe European Union or Japan or it's a trademark strategy not just the law differs but it also about is the business so that's one aspect of what we do trademarks copyright patterns as I said the usual things about incorporation sometimes you want to be a company somewhere sometimes you want to be a nonprofit at times you want to be a mix of two and then there's the other part which is when you want someone else to acquire you or you want to raise more money to become much bigger and the idea is to present a much bigger larger picture and bring to you a different perspective how does the guy on the other side of the table what are they thinking about your business what is their plan about you what are they going to actually expect and who from you wants to give you the money when the sharks in the shark tank are evaluating your proposals what is it that they're going to tell you is going to change later on by the person who sits on your board that kind of a larger picture is something which we just draw because of the experience the only difference which I feel sometimes is that we're not always we try to be councils because that's about advising you what your strategy is that's why it's not about record and bills it's not about doing it on an hourly basis to say yeah I'll solve a little bit of your problem but I will wait for when you run into a different kind of an issue related to the same problem if I write that somebody's or if I decide about how they're going to go about licensing and brand management I want to go and do it in one go and think about everything they might run into for the next three years four years five years so our practice brings together that kind of experience yes we work in the US and we work here that's where most of the lawyers who work in our offices are licensed to but then we work with many other people mostly because we open source software at least the licenses are similar copyright law may change but the basic principles stay the same and just describing those are helping people understand those is what forms a big part of our job there the other things which we do here is because we have a firm belief that free and open source software is cheap raw materials for all startups we're highly efficient superbly easily available and accessible very efficient high quality raw materials available for everybody to use and it's only going to increase if you skip contributing back to the phone and we do think that the free internet freedom movement is going to be fueled by the open source software that's why the little description in my profile was about an online civil liberties activists that's mostly to do because those all the issues actually make a business environment which is conducive to how you want to do you just want to solve problems everybody believes in this city or in the valley that was in all those problems can be solved by technology but maybe not some of them definitely can be and for our job is just to be facilitators so that you can go about doing your business and inventing our job is not that we're always an ending cell and we don't think that our role is to tell you about what you should be doing but just to show you the bigger picture and tell you where the pitfalls are so that problems don't come knocking so that you can manage your risks and to make that possible for you that's where we stand and on the activism side it's it's different issues it's I didn't get into activism just because it's some client who has a problem who's getting too many notices from a police guy and trying to tell him to just destroy his business or it does not know how information technology act in India works and comes to us and then we think of a bigger strategy and then we go up to the springboard to solve that problem and just because that has very far-reaching consequences for how free speech and expression is viewed and various other businesses that was just collateral benefit for everyone then there is network neutrality issues right to privacy issues because how you are going to build your business based on policies is going to be determined by the law of the country or what is the policy adopted by the executive or other firms other organs of the government so that's another part of our work so there is of course a lot of excitement in my work and that's why I do it but I and that's what I learned because I think you should have a conversation more than just listening to me so thank you