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Man, that name, man, even that name. Oh yeah. Man, I know you got a lot of black from that name. Well, hold on, is that where your mama named you from? Indeed. I gotta make sure. 1977, the year the movie came out, that's the year she decided to switch my name from her pop's name to Konto. Oh, so she had named you your pops first? No, that was the intentions, but I was born in February of 77. The same month the movie came out, that's when she made her decision. She switched over. And you were getting teased, like he was asking, have you ever got teased? Yes, indeed. A lot, a lot. Did you ever go to your mama and say, mama, why did you name me? I sit down in front of the TV every year. Every black history month, that never happened. She made you watch the movie. And she made me watch it, she would never explain it to me, she would just sit me there and let me watch it. You know what I mean? I never explained it. Never explained it to me. What did you get from it? It paid off in the long run. In the beginning, the same question you asked, why did you name me? You know, something of that nature, yeah. Right. I really didn't understand the film at the time. And when did you get it? Maybe all my first juvenile jokes. How old were you? Well, my first juvenile jokes, probably 13, 13. And how did you get it? What happened, why you got it? A restful possession of a stolen car or pistol. And then why did you get the fact that, okay, this is why? Okay, I had a chance to actually read the book and I actually seen the trail of the book instead of the movie. Is the book better? Yes, it's better. I mean, I don't necessarily know if everything in the book is actually facts, but yeah, it's better. It's deeper. You know what I mean? You get the contents of the religious parts of it. Okay. The culture part. The culture part. Yes, yes, so that kind of affected me even more. I appreciate it for it. Indeed, rest in peace to my mom. Rest in peace. All right. Rest in peace. Yes, you did. So you were raised by your mom and your daddy? Well, I was raised by my mom's full-wild. Then my grandmother took over. Why, what happened to your mom? Why? Well, my mom's, she was awesome. She was in the streets. I mean, pretty good woman, but she still has a new hand up. She had to do what she got to do? Indeed, indeed. How old were you when your grandmother took over? At least nine, 19 years old. Only child? Mm-hmm, only child. Okay, so you spoiled. Especially when grandma raised you. You know how grandmother's been doing? Yes, indeed. My mother was her youngest daughter out of five. So tell me something that you learned from your mom and then also tell me something that you learned from your grandma that stuck with you over the years. Well, the biggest thing that I live off now is take nothing for granted, period. Take nothing for granted, you know what I mean? I was raised in a pretty fair situation until certain things started happening. My family and my mom's hustling. So that kind of sent me through a little tizzy where I was all, I would say, I was off my rocker, you know what I'm going on. You were like, you wanted your mama there all the time and stuff like that? Yes. So you used the moms, yeah. My grandmother, she was awesome, but you know, there was nobody. Not your mom. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So with that being said, that's where I kind of went running off the path, you know, the path that I was on. Because I was pretty focused as a kid when I was with my moms. But where was your dad doing all of this? In and out of prison, you know? You know, he probably either been in and out of prison or either he was just laying low. We had good communication, you know, but he wasn't with moms, so I wouldn't fully accept him. He couldn't tell you nothing. Like, you're not right here. You can't discipline me, you can't do nothing. Because even when... I respected him highly, though. You respected him highly? Yes, indeed. Because you know how it's so funny, because I know a lot of men who sit at that seat and they love their mom. It's always a mom who always ended up being the person who's taking care of them. Daddy's somewhere around, but it's always the mom who's taking care of them. But there's always a point in time somewhere in their life where the son is too much to handle because, you know, a boy becomes a man and he's like, I can't deal with you. You know, we're arguing, I just can't handle you. They always try to call daddy to deal with the son. But as much as you love mom and you respect mom, y'all still get into it. You know what I mean? And that's the thing, like, me being a mom, I'm like, you only mean the best for your kids. You want your kids to do right. You try to raise them as best as you can, but you can't be there all the time. You can't hold them. I always tell my kids, life's gonna teach you stuff that I can't. Indeed. You know what I mean? Because no matter how much you tell them, tell them, tell them. As a child, I know that there's a lot of things that you did, just like you said, you didn't get till you got older. And what I realized about that as a parent, it's our job to tell you, to constantly tell you, don't worry if you gonna do it, but just tell you instead, because when God is ready, your ears will be open to receive it. You understand what I mean? So when we love somebody, we want you to do it right then and there. Indeed. Because we know that it's good for you, but it's hard to just... Sometimes it doesn't work out that way. No, no. So what did your grandma tell you that helped you? My grandmother, she, like I said, she was a beautiful woman to care me well, you know what I'm saying? She was a backbone of family. She passed as well, but grand was like, she just always was there for me, always took care of me nice, took care of the things I need to handle in my life. Mentally, she was good for my conditioning and my healing, mentally, because I really wanted to be with my mom, but the streets still took over, the streets took over at some point. See, the reason why I love to ask all these questions, because a lot of times when people do crime or do certain things, we, people get mad at a person for doing these things, but don't realize that trauma in their past is what caused them to do certain things and lead them up to where they're at. You know what I mean? Because we had a little snoop mom who came on the show and she was, they had a little program that they went through where, cause her son got killed. And they had a program where they brought all the moms who lost their sons into a room and they faced people, not the murderer of their son or their kids, but people who actually killed people and, you know, reform came out and they talked about their childhood where some of them was either sexually abused or went through different things and that's what caused them to be on this path. So the moms tend to end up having empathy for, you know, although their kids were lost because of, you know, but you really don't know what that person was going through, why they become the person who they are. You know what I mean? So that's why I like to go back into your history to see what you had to go through. Well, in that aspect, I would say, well, I just recently found out before I was released from Angola that I was diagnosed with anxiety issues. But I mean, I really didn't realize that I've been having that sense of kid, you know what I'm saying? I never knew that. That's why when I kind of like go off, I can't calm down, I'm like literally black out and I couldn't calm down, couldn't calm down, couldn't calm down. But I just realized that as you know my way out, you know I'm diagnosed with anxiety attack. That's what that is. Cause I hear some people say, I get so mad that I black out and I don't, I can't tell you what just happened. So is that what that is? Well, I never been to the point where I couldn't tell you exactly what took place, but I know I can't calm down. You can't calm down. And that's anxiety. Yes, yes, yes. Wow. And I think that's caused by a lot of black families don't take their kids to, especially doctors. I'm not talking just physical doctors, but when they think about mental, because a lot of parents feel like you're not gonna label my child crazy. Exactly, exactly. Especially in school. You know what I mean? They don't want a label come over their kids, but they're not realizing that if it's a constant thing that's happening, you can get, right, and you can get your child help, whether counseling or medicine or anything like that. Do you have to be in medicine now? Or are you just... No, no. Well, I refuse to take any type of psych meds while I was locked up. You know what I'm saying? I mean, just them putting me on top and me kind of, you know, just channeling my focus when I'm in a situation or certain situations. I know I can't handle, you know, I just shy away from them. I pull myself back from them because I know more I entertain them. You know, I'm gonna take it some more. It's awareness is the first thing. Indeed. It's knowing what you have and then moving on from there. And then, you know, day in the age that we're in now, you can find out anything on social media or on YouTube. So you can always find out calming, situation, how to... So that can be your doctor. Right, there are herbal remedies that you can take. People drink teas to calm themselves down, you know, stuff like that. But so tell me about a time. Do I know you... The first time you got in trouble, how old were you? Well, really, I was the first time I got in trouble. Well, my first juvenile juice, I was 13. 13? Yeah, but I had a couple of years. And what happened at 13? Possession of a stolen vehicle and a pistol. Pistol inside, just basically a jarring ride, you know. Oh, okay. Did you finish high school? No, no, no. I was a time I was released from Scotland at juvenile juice. I was, I mean, it wasn't too long before I was right back in on this adult charge for something that I had no idea. And how old were you when you went in for this adult charge? 17. 17, and tell me what happened. Literally, we was in an altercation in my neighborhood, which is the Iverville Housing Project. We had an altercation in that neighborhood at a DJ with some neighborhood friends, whatever. And during the... While this was taking place, something else was taking place in the Desiree Housing Project, which is like five and a half miles away from our housing project. Okay, I can't necessarily explain to you what took place in the Desiree, what a life was taken. Okay, in that situation, the life that was taken, they give in charge to me and my two co-defendants, while saying that we committed a crime and all. But you weren't there. At all. In fact, we was on the back of a cop car. Thank God we got stopped in the traffic stop. Right. During the proceedings of this murder, if it wasn't for the proceedings of this murder, I mean, us being in a traffic stop during the proceedings of this murder, I probably wouldn't be talking to you all the day. Yeah, because then, if it was... It's a law enforcement officer who was there, so they can't say he's lying to help you. If it was a friend, it'd be like, well, he lying. You know how they be doing? Well, we did have an officer that all actually made the traffic stop. He literally told him that our traffic stop was intentionally a traffic stop. Oh. And it didn't have anything to do with the murder. Okay. Officers in the Fifth District that was saying that we was actually a sentence involved in the crime five and a half miles away. And the time... Okay, so what time did the stop happen and what time did that crime happen? Okay, well, the crime happened at nine, like exactly like 9.22, that was when the first calls came in about the crime shots being fired. Okay, y'all. And then your stop happened at what time? No later than 9.27, 9.30. We was in a traffic stop. Yeah, you couldn't make it that far. Five and a half miles, yeah. In that sort of a time. Okay, our name was being, well, one of my co-defendants name was being broadcast over the radio while we was in the traffic stop. And they were saying that we was fleeing from a scene in a desired housing project headed towards the interstate. So was it somebody that looked like y'all that they saw that they thought it was y'all? No, no, no, no, no. This was... Because I'm like, why did they, where did they get y'all's name from? This was not a mistaken identity. This wasn't... But who told them the name? It was the cops. They just came up with y'all names. The cops literally give the names up to the actual victim who was in the car. And he actually mentioned our names to them, they have documents, just public records. Do you know which police officer told them this name? Lynn Davis. Did he have something against y'all? That's the part that I'm confused about. Yeah, because I'm like, if you had your name on the tip of his tongue like that. Yes, yes, so if it was, it was through something that was happening in the streets. Did you know him personally? Not at all. Did you ever have any running with him before? Not at all, not with him personally. Not that I could recall. I done had a few run-ins with cops, but not that I could recall actually. Or your friend. Did your friend have any run-ins with him? Not that we can recall. Okay. Yes, by him working in the fifth district when we are the first district, we don't too much encounter fifth district cops. So for that situation to go like that, I mean, I don't know how it played out or how the narrative was drawn up. Yeah. But he was adamant. That's just crazy that he just came up with y'all's name, picked y'all name, knew your names to say. Yes. So were there witnesses at that location? This is that the feds had the whole thing tapped. Okay. The whole time. What a shooting it was. Yeah, the whole thing, everything. It was under federal investigation for Operation Shadow Shield, which they was investigating a lot of crooked cops that was working under the branch of Len Davis or whatnot. And they actually had everything on record. They actually knew that we didn't commit the crime. But that has film, footage? No, I don't. I really don't know any footage, but I know they had audio for sure. Okay. I know they had audio or maybe a few things from their cell phones, because this is how they used to communicate. Right. The phones was given to them by the feds and they literally didn't know that they had phones from the feds at the time. So this is how a lot of the information was being tapped. Okay. So this was highly publicized. Soldier Slim mentions it in a song, it mentioned you guys in a song. What time period was this? Well, Soldier Slim, I ran into Soldier Slim probably maybe around 96. He was incarcerated with me in Orleans, Paris. He was incarcerated for discharge in 94. So we actually come through on the charge while we was on the till already. Wow. How was he? Just dealing with him? Oh, Slim straight, bro. You know what I mean? I know a lot of people say this, that, not all. You know the street gangster shit. He's a good dude, bro. Literally, he's a good guy, just, just firm, right? Gonna stand firm on what he believe in, you know? So, and he might have, he was a pretty good people. You know, we fucked around with each other. Tell me something that he did, that, cause you know, a lot of people say he was good, but I love to hear a story of something that he did, that, you know about. Stuck out. Stuck out. Well, we're stuck out, man. He had a weird encounter before those that was in the Paris dig or Fousford or what had that are. And he come on the till, he didn't want to do any rapping because he's not like rapper-rapper for just to be rapping. But me, being from downtown, I wanted to hear something, you know, that I had to purchase music from him before. You know, I was a conservator. I had bought some of his albums and shit, so, you know, I wasn't feeling him not rapping. You know what you mean? You're not rapping. And you're older than he is. Well, yeah, something around the same age. Around the same age, okay. Yeah, so I wasn't feeling that. So I'm like, you know, somebody get us a nigga some beats, some shit. You gon' rap. You're rapping this far. Yeah, God bless the dead, but you know, real shit. You know, you gon' rap, but you gon' run some nigga, I don't spend, you know. Right. I'm a fan. I rock with shit. Yeah, you know, so he kind of respected the approach. It wasn't like he cowered out and did the shit. You know, he respected and then come at him like that, you know, so. He got out from that point on, he got out. You really? Yeah, he rocked the till. So he rocked the till. Yeah, that's what he do. Because you guys locked up like this is a freedom. This is a sense of freedom. Yeah, this is all shit. Yeah, this is all shit, man. Yeah. You know, don't come in here and be engaged in it. And you know, we all have that promise. Act like we can't, you know, like we can't just be free and hero the same way in the world. Yes, then he was that nigga. He was the artist at the time, you know. So I definitely need to hear that. How was he, cause you know how a lot of time when we listen to somebody on the records, they sound one way, but when you hear them in person, they sound a different way. No, that's slim. That's slim. He sound the same way, both ways. That's slim. Language, when you talk, when you rap, it's all slim. Slim, his shit don't change. Don't change. His shit don't change. You know, when he, when he rapped during that time, was this before, then after he came home, that's when he put y'all name in that song. Yeah. Well, he had a little incident. Well, I don't necessarily, necessarily think my name would have made a song or my co-defendants would have made a song due to the fact we from downtown. Slim is an uptown nigga. Magnolia. Yeah, all the way through. All the way through. He's an uptown, respect real niggas, but you know, he's all about his uptown name. So he's not the one to just really be boasting about dudes from downtown. Yeah. Him and a guy in my neighborhood, which I'm real close to is crazy, was one of the 504 boys. They had their little encounter. So with them having their encounter and me and him have already had met each other and him living on a till with me, you know, he just had to fix that in a manner where, you know, okay, I'm one with your project, bro, but at the same time, I know the real ones out there, you know, just at the third. Yeah. But at the same time, you know, crazy, not no chump either. He just, he's a brain. Yeah. Not a move, bro. He's smart. He's a brain. He just stay clear of the shit, bro. You know, he's not a state of the way. He's not an idiot. You know, so he was smart enough not to take that walk. Wow, just a special shout out to my daughter who just sent me her straight A's. And she's 95 to 100. Oh, damn. She's in the 12th grade and she won her $300. I told her anything that she go up over 95 in a subject, she get an extra $100. So she just hit me up. We about to send her that $300. She said, she said, send me that $300 now. Send her that $300. Send her to a place. Ain't less than that with Beyond Civilized. Yeah, send her the three. Like, dang, she said grades her and she was, she couldn't wait on that. Yeah, send her the $300. Go on and give her her money. She deserve it. Congratulations. That's hard, man. Congratulations, man. Sorry about that. No problem, man. Perfect, man. Kids first, man. Yeah, yeah, man. So going back into the story by Soldier Slim, like when you think about how the city embraced him after all of this, you've seen that coming. They should, yes, yes. He's the one, man. He's the one. I mean, if you needed the culture of the city, there's nobody that could really just wrap the whole culture of the city, the mentality of the city and wrap with Slim at that time. When you think about Slim that day, when you heard about when he got killed in front of his home, where were you, you were locked up, of course, during that time, but what ran across your mind? That was heartbreaking, man. It was heartbreaking, but you can almost see it. You know what I'm saying? The way Slim lived, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, you don't wish that on him, but you know what I mean? He was kind of erratic and during that time, you know what I'm saying? The city really didn't respect rappers like that. So Slim was the only one that kind of navigated through that shit being a street nigga and a rapper at the same time. The rest of the rappers, we would just look at him as a rapper. How could you say that the city didn't respect rappers when you had Birdman from down here? I'm just giving you the question. I'm about to give the answer. You had Birdman from down here. You had Moussa P. You had No Limit. You had all these guys down here. How could you say that the city didn't respect them when they had uplifted them? Okay, well, if you notice when Birdman first come out during his, mostly all of his raps, he consistently tell you that I ain't a rapper. They all my gangsta. Yeah. And he did not want the rapper stigma. He don't want a rapper stigma. He won't rap on money, but he don't want a rapper stigma. That's that rapper, you know what I mean? Generations as it's going along. I mean, we embrace it now, but during those times now, rappers was characters. Rappers were characters. Slim was one of the ones that made the exception around that time, yeah. Wow. So when you, because being that you were, you knew that era when Birdman first came out with Cash Money, and I'm gonna ask you about P2, but you was out, you was in the streets, right? Yes, that's what I was. What was something that stick out about that era for you when Birdman came? Because I know you hear the fact that he a gangsta. Y'all down here, y'all live. He actually from, where is he from? He's from uptown. He's from uptown. He is uptown. Just put it that way. You can move across the board uptown. Okay, so when you see him and that whole movement, what does that, how does that hit you? You like proud of him? It's beautiful, yeah, very beautiful, man. Only thing I don't like is not seeing him and P hook up. They never did hook up, did they? That's about the, you know, I mean, I understand the situation, the street situation. You know, I don't wanna go into details of that with the two neighborhoods. Well, man, that would be so uplifting. That would have been a big ride. That's even right now, even what right now today. If they came together, then guys to see. If Callio came together with uptown, it's what you're saying. You know, if they could see Master P and baby together. And baby together. We're just Callio and uptown, right? Well, that's Callio and Magnolia. Magnolia, yeah. But do you think that there might ever be a time that they can put their differences aside to just do it for the city, to bring the city together? I mean, knowing the mentality of guys from New Orleans, it's a hard rock. That's a hard rock. Because I mean, it's a lot of lives lost and a lot of things went on between, you know, different projects that, you know, wouldn't allow them to really just sit down and overlook all that shit. So, you know. But it would be a healing, because, you know, even like, I gotta put it, I gotta put it right back to the mode three, yellow BZ from Dallas. You know, we can't say, the fact of the matter is, Master P's still here and baby's still here. They're both still living. You know, so I can't really just always go back and talk about yellow BZ and multi-comote three is gone. But I so wish that they could have put their differences aside and had came together just to do it for the city. You know what I mean? Because it would have stopped a lot of foolishness. Yes, but when you look at Master P and when you look at Birdman, they, K.L. came on the show, K.L.C. He was telling me that he had them and Soldier Slim in his place rapping to body, body, free styling to it. So there was a time when they could be in the same room and embrace each other as before the fame took off. I'm telling you, this is something he spoke of on my show. So that right there tells me that before the, you know, some Sean Cotton said, shout out Seiji Sean Cotton. He said, you never know nobody till they get money. Is that true? Well, I mean, I can't speak for those guys. Not just them, but people in general. Yeah, cause that changes a lot. And I mean, in the world, it's definitely, bro, because it's rough down here, real talk. I mean, there's not money at all on that level. You know what I'm saying? So for them to win like that, to win that big, I mean, you know, you would have to distance yourself. I mean, motherfuckers would say, excuse my language, they would say peace, baby, or whatnot. Scary leader, state, or whatever they came, you know. It's about the smartest thing they could ever did was lead the state. I mean, their state chairs tall, man, for real. If they could put me in prison at 17 years old for a person I've never seen in my life, if you could do that to a kid, three kids. I mean, what's the chance of, you know, stunts or people lasting with all that money in this state? What, where were you locked up at again? Angle, Orleans, Paris, Hunts. So you was locked up with Mac? Yeah, well, I went through Hunts. Mac was on the other side when I went through Hunts. Okay, so you never did a time. I never ran into him. You never ran into him, but y'all were on the same unit at that time. And because he's another case that I look at down here, I look at the way you guys go through this system and I never hear good things about this system. That's why when I come through here, and I'm coming up out of here, because it's just like you never hear good things about what it is to deal with that system, that judicial system, compared to the stories I hear, just with the young man that was just on here. It's just crazy that you just, is Justice Elver really served down here? No, not that I know of, not that I know of. Not even in my situation with me just coming home. You know what I mean? I mean, I appreciate the fact that the judge and head district attorney, my judge, found it in her heart to overlook everything that the material that I was before and rendered the decisions she came with, but at the same time, man, it just threw me back out here. I mean, after 28 and a half years, I'm back out in the streets. The city's the murder capital. Again, like I said, when I went in, it was the murder capital. I'm back out here in the little programs they have to try to help fund individuals. It's better than it was. What actually, bro, there's really no assistance for us, bro, you just tossed me out in this world, bro. You know what I'm saying? I got to fend for myself. I got to fend for myself. I mean, I got to feed myself. You know what I'm saying? Transportation, things of that nature. I mean, I don't see no compensation for it. I don't see where they're gonna find the actual bag, the compensators for it. I mean, they got several guys that came out before me that won legal suits, law suits and things, and they still haven't received any money. So this shit is consistently being, you know, you got mad within the last five, six years, you probably had like 20-something guys come home that were falsely accused. How did you pay? Yeah, I just, man, I don't like hearing the stories, but I love seeing you home. Indeed. You know what I'm saying? You look like me. So I love seeing you home. Because some people die in that place. Indeed. You was laying by side people that never come home. Indeed, indeed. You know, I watched a lot of them die too. Who's the most person that you've seen that you ever talked to that had the most time when you was down there like, dang, you got three life sentences? Well, one of my partners, Wine, Wine had five life sentences. Five life sentences. He had five life sentences. He paid two, two years, two debt penalties and five life sentences. He just got, come off that road, you know what I'm saying? He hoped that was overturned. Come off that road. He's still sitting with five life sentences. So how was the conversation? How was this temperature when you would talk to him? Real humble? Man, I mean, real talk. I mean, but it's for like damn, to everybody that went in Angola due to the laws. I mean, when you get a natural life sentence in Angola, that's what they meant. Literally, this shit just started coming around with certain people getting a little played with, man, shit. I'm talking about guys laying next to you 50 years on the books, 40 years on the books. I'm talking about literally, I ain't going nowhere. I ain't got no chance of going home or nothing. Wow. So that's crazy. Me going in at the age I went in. 17. 17, yes. Yes, it was a harsh. And how old was you when you got out? Ooh, 45. 17 to 45. For a guy I've never seen in my life. For a guy you've never seen in your life. If his mother is watching this, if his sister is watching this once again, I'm sorry for y'all lost. Like I said, I've never seen a kid in my life and the case now proves that. Wow. So for a case like that, when you would come up for parole or when you would come up, say they thought when you were about to get out or if it was any chance of you getting out, were they campaigning against you? There was no parole. Only reason I got lucky and had parole eligibility because I was a juvenile. Due to me being a juvenile, I had parole eligibility came around in like 2018 for me. You know, so all with that being said, I didn't wanna go to parole because I understood my lawyer explained to me that I would have to, you know. Yes, you gonna have to admit guilt, man. That's nowhere in the world. That's nowhere in the world. Not even gone. And I'm knowing I've been down for a while. That's what you were talking about. Yeah, but you know how many people do that? Just because they wanna go home to see their kids? Yes, I don't watch the children. Did you have kids? Man, yes, I had one daughter. Before you went in? Yes, she was three months when I got incarcerated, yes. How did that feel being away from her? That's the worst, that's the worst. Did she come visit? Yeah, I didn't get it. Regular, regular, regular until she went into the service. You know, she went to Houston College, right now she's still out there in Houston. I just come from out of that scene. So, you know, I had my first grandkid. Grandkid. I seen it on your page. Yes, yes, yes, mother died, bruh. So, uh. Wow. Congrats, man. Yeah, I appreciate that. Because one thing I always would say is hard for a person to raise their child from behind prison doors, because it's like I heard some people say, you know, you can try to tell them, but when they're out here, they gonna do what they wanna do anyway. You know what I mean? But a girl is different though. Girls are different than boys though. Girls are a little bit easier to me. Yeah, well, men, you know, just feel the need to have their own independence. That's just in us, you know, not saying women, not, you know, but men just like to be out on their own and be responsible, you know, and so, at certain ages, you really gotta lock in on them. You gotta see what they're meant to act, you know what I'm saying? Give them space, but at the same time, you got to be real strict about, you know, kids, man, because, uh. Tell. They take anything for granted, bruh. It could definitely happen to a lot of y'all. Tell me about your relationship with Boss B. Oh, Boss B, man, that's, like I say, I always say this here about this guy, bruh, you know. He's one of the smoothest guys I've ever met. Next to this guy here, you know what I'm saying? But, uh, he's one of the smoothest guys I've ever met, bruh. He's real laid back, he's loyal, bruh. If you boss fuck with you, he fuck with you, you know? Boss is not. That's hard to find. Yeah, he's not the chatterbox type. He's not, you know, off, runoff at the mouth too much. I mean, straight with the guys he deal with, he's, he's one hundred with it. Well, I gotta ask you about, uh, thanks to Terrence Williams, he out here on the internet, man, and he, hey, hey, everybody see what's going on. Boussy has some real harsh words to say about telling on somebody who, you know, did it. I haven't touched that, I haven't touched that. I'm just trying to understand, you were locked up with this guy. Mm-hmm. Both of them. With Boussy as well? So he's, he said Boussy was in protective custody when he was in Angola. Is that true? Well, I heard that man, the guy was, the guy, the situation got Boussy was in from my understanding. He was in the camp with me at one time. Boussy had money when he come to jail. Simple as that. He had money when he come to jail, I mean, and all the little situation with Angola by our whole population and the way the prison is being ran, it's open, it's wide open. It's not a lockdown prison. So I'm talking about, it's very wide open. It's not like any other prison on the inside. So it's a lot of movement, a lot of movement. So with his money, they knew he could have kind of dictated a lot of shit in prison. So they held him in the cells for a while. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So he went through everything he had to, to get out of the cells. I know this for a fact. He was literally trying to come in population. He made it out, but they sent him to a camp that wasn't really known for, you know, it was like, you know, close to a trustee camp. It wasn't no population. I mean, it was population, but it wasn't no PC or no shit like that. And he came out, he come out. Wow. So you, how was the temperature when he was there? People just knew he... Yeah, well, I mean, you know, like I said, but an Angola, it's not to take no credit for them guys. You know what I'm saying? But rappers don't, they don't actually move pieces in Angola like that. You know what I'm saying? Angola, man, you really got to put your work in to be respected in that. They not just come to jail and because you, you know, and you take over shit, no, it didn't work like that. You know what I'm saying? I said, you know, you're pretty good at that. Wow. I just, I look at, you know, when he was locked up and then he went into a, I think he went in for a 18 month stint, I want to say, it's been a while, but then he ended up had kids, they charged him for murder while he was doing his time. And then they start, you know, they tried him for murder. They start building cases. They start building cases on him. You thought he was just going for this period of time and then coming home, but it ended up being somewhat, they tried to shift it. And then he, he winds up on death row. And that's at Angola. And that's where, and you were there during that time. That's crazy. And Terrence was there during that time. No, well, gangster, I was in Paris with gangster. Okay. So he wasn't there. He wasn't even there during that time. Gangster didn't come to Angola. Gangster never been to Angola. So how do you know what kind of time Boosie was in and what type of temperature he was on? Well, I mean, because of his, you know, his street ties, you know, I mean, there's a lot of guys that he dealt with on the inside. I'm a guy that, you know, I used to deal with him heavy too, you know, so it's easy for him to find out how certain things at that point, you know what I mean? Right now, I don't know if the guys actually, you know, putting them in people's business like that right now, but at that time, you definitely knew a lot of guys inside of prison. But the way that he came home, I mean, cause we just talked about how you would do certain things to jeopardize who you are. Indeed. But he comes home on a step where he had spoke on some people, but they just happened to be dead. How, I mean, is this something that would, is this something you would have done? No, no, no, no, I actually had a situation like that with this case, with my case. You know, not to take any, throw any jabs at him, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, that's not something I would have done. You know what I'm saying? It's not the way it go, man. They got other people, families who got to put up with that hurt, that shame that you're throwing in family, you know what I'm saying? Now, if certain guys in the game, but he puts so much work in the game, you know, when he over, I'm talking about they maxed out in the game. But you know what I mean? Some guys catch that flag, bro, because you know, people look at him as a scumbags, even though there's somebody, kids or whatnot. Motherfuckers will throw charges on him. You know, they dead, some of them throw it on him, they won't look any different from all the other charges he had. So, that was his case. Yeah, and I get it, cause I just say, you know, would you be locked up with him and seen it just a close, it hits home, you know what I mean? Where, where you definitely was seeing things happen and you seen, he was released before you. Okay, yes he was. He was. And you remember when he came home? Yes, yes. Was it the thing where people were talking about the way he came home? Yes, yes, yes. Is that something, because could he have not just said nothing about it and it would have been cool or they were gonna find out? Man, well, either way it go, man. I mean, gangsta know, he know the streets, period. He know the streets through and through. His decision was his decision. And I mean, hey man, gangsta like, ooh gangsta don't give a fuck. He really don't, I mean, it fucks with him a little bit because I can imagine that he loved the reputation he had. You know what I'm saying? I mean, he said he made his transition that he's not in the street any longer. I would hope that's the fact. I would hope that's the fact, you know, that he's not in the street any longer, but ain't gonna give a fuck. Nobody said about him. Wow. Yo, he been like that since he was a kid. We did Juvenile, Joseph together in Scotland and everything, so I've been on him. You know what I'm saying? That shit don't mean nothing to him. He loved the entertainment. Mm-hmm. That's his shit. He loved it. He loved it. That's his shit. And that's something I'm, I just look at how, how, you know, like the way you done it, it wasn't right the way you got done. You know that, you know. But to hold it down and just stay true to who you are, I think it says a lot about your character. Yes, yes. That's real. That's what I'm hunting. That's all I could say. That meant something to me. Yeah, it means something to the streets, excuse me, but you know, yeah, it meant something to me, you know, when it's about me, bro, you know I'm being conscious, very conscious of the things I do, bro, you know what I'm saying? Wow, did you know Sterling? Well, I knew him, but not personally. Okay. I go from seeing him. Wow, you know. Y'all know if they, I know if they hold their crew, I was on the streets when they was moving around, you know, so I knew all of them, you know. Yeah. Stone, I was locked up with him, Scotland, all of us were locked up together. I was here by Massapete, brother. I never heard stories. So Kevin Miller back when he was, you know, when they were young, I never heard, I guess it was before they time. They had to be very young, because when I heard him rap about him, even when we were, when I was listening to Pete early on, because Pete really for me, the first one that came, you know what I mean, out from these parts, but he was in LA, he was in California. And it was like a big deal for me when I heard ice cream and all that, his run was ridiculous. And that hustle is undeniable, you know what I mean? And he changed a lot of people's lives. And I think about it because a lot of people talk about the Birdmans and the Massapetes. And I have to say, all the people that were connected to them had great runs and great lives, bro. No matter how you look at them. Yeah, no matter. You cut the slack. Yeah. They ain't didn't they? They ain't, they ain't. They come from the D. I love it. And Kevin Miller was with the Tuesday crew. Okay, I didn't know that. But at the end of the day, I just, I always think about how the music moved down there. I always love Louisiana, bro. I'm a, I ain't gonna lie. I say it all the time, people from Louisiana. Anything to do with Louisiana, I just, I love it. You know what I'm saying? Cause I was born five miles from Louisiana. I could have been almost over here. I grew up coming over that state line though. All the time. Jay Merck, yeah, I'm supporting that guy. Okay. Yeah, I'm supporting Shawty, Shawty Fresh. I was a pin with me. You know what I'm saying? He was in a pin with me. That's one of your boys, bro, you know, kind of took a liking to him. He was like, bro, you know what I'm saying? So I definitely want to see him win, bro. You know, he been working on his craft. He deserve, you know, he deserve his run. He gon' get it. He gon' get it. Oh, he gon' get it. Man. He gon' get it. When I sat in on him, you know, the manager friend is doing what he gotta do. They work it. He gotta represent the people in the box. Wow, man. How can people get a hold to you? Or how can people link with you? You know, people just want to even donate, even rock with you. You probably have a cash out. Yes. You probably have that cash out, everything comes. We need to start moving on helping our people, man. Indeed, man. Well, I'm gonna be honest with you, bro. Right now, I'm really about to take down everything I have up. Wow. And I have to relay everything back on them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I have a reason being is when I was in a pen, you know, I had a few situations dealing with my charge where I used to have to speak to certain guys subliminal. Wow. You know, over Instagram. So I, you know, I mean dealing with my charges because I knew it was going on. So I had to reach out to certain people to make certain things work, bro. You know what I'm saying? This shit was crazy, bro. So with that being said, a lot of things I had to say on there, I had to take down on the page because one of the officers had come to the prison. Well, he was fired from the force. Let Davis call the friend. He was fired from the force. He come to the prison and he was kind of trying to see if he could like maybe put some pressure on me in the prison. You know what I'm saying? But why? Guys wouldn't fuck with me behind the cop period. That wasn't gonna happen. You know what I'm saying? They not, you know, he ain't going against me with too many other kinds of niggas. He the but a cop definitely. They wasn't messing with that. So just to let him know that I was still in the midst of doing what I'm doing. You know, I got me go to move or whatever you trying to do. I had to sit my, set my page up and have certain shit on it to let him know that I'm ready. You know what I'm saying? Right now that page might link you to some shit that you didn't know. So I don't want people to get that. I want you to know. So I'm been to Mr. Pull and all the pages. Anything that we can do to help. Yes, sir. If you need me for anything, any shout outs. We hear from you, that's it. We hear family and I'm gonna follow you in a minute too. And you're gonna follow me and we're gonna be able to link. Indeed. You know what I'm saying? Thank you so much, Cunter. Appreciate you, man. My guy, my new friend. Oh, you better believe it. Now, hey, when I come to town, every time, or if you come to Dallas, if you ever up that way, but if I come down here, I'm getting another interview if you help me. Indeed, indeed. Next one, man, oh shit. We gonna keep going. And next, we got our victory tour. Indeed. Yeah, we for to have a little money and they keep playing with us. Oh, can't believe I would like to shit this here, man. Go ahead, bro. Stay focused on your kids. Man, real talk, man. Real shit, man. You really got to stay focused. I'm gonna say this every chance I get, bro, because, you know, man, they took my mom's, you know, my co-defendants, we was kids, bro. They took my mom's only child, bro, for a long fucking time, for a long ride, bro. And I didn't make it out here to see my mom before she passed, bro. And, you know what I mean? I'm just out here right now, bro. You know, I'm still soaking it all in, but I'm just out here. And, bro, I mean, the compensation shit is ridiculous. So I'm definitely gonna be talking, bro. You know what I'm saying? Thank you so much. Nice to meet y'all. Man, hey, man. Check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the boss is talk. And we out.