 It needs to be said one more time. What? Naughty pussy. Did you finish it? Yeah. Did you enjoy it at all? I did. Okay. Good. Yeah. Just making sure. Hey, welcome back to our Steve Bitter Eggs episode of Corbin. I'm Rick. You can follow us on Instagram, Twitter for more juicy content. Thanks to the Patreon folks who have come to subscribe to the like button. Oh, fish! You know why I enjoyed it? Oh, fish man! Yeah. I enjoyed it because I got a really important clarification that either I'd never heard or just finally registered from Indrani. Talking about Om Shanti Om. Om Shanti Om. So I'm watching it and I asked her a question. I said, I think I know the answer to this, but I'm going to ask. They knew when they were making it what they were doing, right? In the same way when you're watching Young Frankenstein, they know what they're doing. Yeah. They knew what they were doing was ridiculous. They weren't trying. They're well aware. It was obvious. Yes. And she said, oh, of course. I said, okay, that helps me receive it much better. So I really, I really enjoyed. I could put aside all of the stuff that strained credulity beyond wildest imagination and just enjoy it for what it is. I loved it. I had a lot of fun with Om Shanti Om. Om Shanti Om. Om Shanti Om. Yeah. Anyways. But speaking of Charle Rican, we're at part three of Beneath the Surface series. Awesome. So if you haven't seen our first two parts, if you're on YouTube, you can check those already out if this one's out right now. And they've been great. Is this the final one? No, there's another one. Oh, I'm sorry. Did you just say that? There's four. Okay. There's four total. Got it. Here we go. So before we broke off for you to do the shot, you were telling me about the superstar experience and how you can't really tell anyone what it's like, right? Because I also don't know. No, you know. No, you know. You can't. It's not very explainable, to be honest. Sure. I can be modest and say it's a regular life. It's very normal. But obviously it's not. It's not. Is it always enjoyable, though? Or does it ever get exhausting? No, there's no other place I'd rather be. I'm very clear about this. I don't think about it. I don't get depressed. I don't get nightmares. I wasn't a star anymore. Never have. Because like we decided 21 years ago, I believe that this is going on. For 25 years, if it goes on, then what is there to check you are costing? But no. I love being a big star. I love being in the public eye. I love being criticized. I love being conversized. I love being a star. You know, a couple of years ago, I was listening to Javed Saad at the Jai Pullet Fest and he was talking about lyrics and he said this. I'm sorry, but our songs are a bit less. And I felt like it's not just a song. It's everything. In life, lyrics are a bit less. You just look at the public discourse, the kind of slanging matches on social media. You know, when two films are released, it just gets ugly. Why this lack of lyrics? I'll tell you, we haven't got a lot of respect for the other. You've just lost self-respect. It is very strange. There were things I would not hear or say when you're talking about public slanging and the way people talk. How can a self-respecting person speak this? It's not whether I respect you or not. That's secondary. I don't respect myself. How do I get up in the morning after having spoken like this about someone in the night? I think we're just losing self-respect and dignity. I mean, just because we say, You go, girl. Say what? You're making exclamation. We are expressing ourselves in exclamations now. And exclamations are actually shocking alphabets or whatever they're called. You know, it's like we put exclamations then. You become a whole society. And I'm not, please, I'm not Krivith. It's just beautiful. We just become a whole set of people who speak to each other and exclamations. And exclamations somehow always do. I hear, What? What? Who? Say what? Come on. Yo! It's so on the ground. Oh, fish! Oh, fish, man! And I just feel we need to respect ourselves a little bit. Do you think it's because bad behavior gets attention and people now, everybody wants to be in... I know people mistake honesty, bad behavior for honesty. I'm saying it like it is. No, it's not like that. Maybe it's not like this. I read somewhere a gentleman, one of our colleagues, working with us somewhere, started writing some really strange things about my colleagues. But, sir, it's a work with us. We love him, single. We like to explain stuff and... No. No. Saying it like it is is not being rude. You're mistaken. And I say, Because then I find people retaliating. Yeah, yeah. It just goes on. Some regular guys, normal person also starts. And I tell them, Come on, let it be. It actually is honest to God. Whenever I've done it, I apologize. Whenever I've had an outburst, I'm really apologizing. I'm really apologizing to myself and to the world for giving and setting a bad example. And this is not justification. And this is no excuse. But all of that builds up sometime as a public figure. And it comes out in that one little incident. And then, yeah, you are retaliated and you are supposed to be mad and you are supposed to be pompous and you think, well, it's done. This is no excuse. No excuse. I should not even do it then. You know, you need to, I guess, take some lozenge, some calming medicine. I think I should be arrested all the time. Meditate. Practice mindfulness, you know. I think very often that I should learn cooking, gardening. So I'm trying to learn Italian cooking. Tonight was for pasta. Let me see. What a suspect, really. I want to learn Italian. I want to cook Italian. He did. I just sort of as a... Yeah, I'm trying to find new programs not because of my political affiliation. I want to cook Italian. I think it's very sexy. Italians are sexy. I've got all the other sexy qualities. Not you. Correct. So I have a title. So I'm going to be at an apron. And... Watch Stanley Tucci's show. I'm going to put some wine and bring it from it with cooked food. Yes. Absolutely. I know it's very sexy, but I don't want it for my kids. The pizza, like this lady here, lady. Great thing about Italian food is there's not, a lot of it is really simple to make. But I forgot now. My shoulder was broken. So I took the time off and did it. But I really wanted to do that and learn the songs on a guitar. I sing to every woman in the world. Whoever she is, whatever she is, whatever state of mind she is. I want to know 10 songs to sing on a guitar. Open G. Italian food cooking abilities. That's it. And that's what I have. I just... Oh, who's that man? Right. He's a very good man. And I'm complete. He's been consistent about that. He's been consistent about that. This is before Ravan released. And you talked about how it really made you happy when people talk about you being the first person to sort of play the bad guy in a heroic way and buzzing him. And you said then that it's been a long time since I heard that about myself that I started something. And Ravan was a 10-2 star something. Do you think? I mean, of course there was that. But do you think otherwise did you take enough risks? Yeah, whenever the opportunity is present in itself. I've never designed something to take a risk to. You offer me a role or if you offer me a production that has not been done like, say, Ravan. Or say, no, I mean, do it often. Or say, fine. It was impossible to make but it took a lot of it also. So, no, let's do it. And the kind of stuff we've spent on it was hardly recoverable even on the table, you know. Uneducated, highly special. So it was difficult for me. But I would never do something that's for the sake of highlighting the fact that I took a chance. That's not... You don't want to be applauded for that. At my stage, no. At my stage, I don't want to surprise you. I don't want to shock you. I don't want to be shocked by myself. I don't want to be. I'm not in a hyper place anymore. I'm not in hyper mode anymore. Mentally, yes. Physically, yes. But it's not about proving something to anyone anymore. It doesn't take out... take away the edge. It doesn't take away the competitive spirit. It doesn't take away the yearning to do something really new and fantastic which I've never loved before. And being able to prove it to my 3-year-old son when he turns 15, then why is your father so fierce? Because he deserves to. Not because of a film called Dilwale Dumanian Days I'm here between the 20 years. I'm so glad some of you gave it to me. That won't work for him. 15 years later, maybe. Listen, I just went back to see it. It still works. Shocker. I bought into it completely. 16-year-old daughter said, you know what? Yeah. So my logic is, if I want to innovate and if I want to do something new, I can do it for that 3-year-old, 4-year-old. And I'm really, really, really full of energy. When I started out, I told everyone, I want to do five days. And when I say great, greatness is time now. Things change. Years later, working for this day, now it's not day, five days later. But still, I want to do five days for this. I think I've gone under one. Really? Yeah, I know. When you know, they've dated now. No. I respectfully disagree, sir. Work with Vishal Bhardwash. Any red cash yet? At this date, I'm really, really hungry for greatness. In a good way. I've not been promised that I want it all. Still do your pathons. Piece of excellence. But also, I don't want it all. But I want to do stuff, which I keep saying, I need to be at the end of my career. Whenever that may be, honestly. To be deserving of what I have. It's really, really, really sad if I put a moment to it. I deserve this. I should genuinely know myself. And some things, I don't want to have to. Though I talk about politeness and courtesy. I don't want to say thank you to anyone. I don't want to owe it to anyone. And I don't want to say sorry. It's to you. It's your own hard work. It was my hard work. I worked for it. I went long and I tried it. I know it sounds too much I, but I'm being honest and saying it. And I don't want to say sorry to anyone. I have the love that I screwed up. These are two words I don't want to say at the end of my career. Sorry. Thank you. No, I don't want to say that. I don't want to say sorry. I don't want to say thank you. I want to be humble. And I want to be genuinely happy about what I've done. I want to be dissatisfied. Because that's another thing I don't want. I don't want to be satisfied. That's really, really dissatisfied. I don't want to sit back. Sometimes in the last six or seven years I've had my physicality here stopping for a couple of years because of the injuries. But I overcome them. Some have subscribed. I did. They have subscribed. Yeah, pretty good. I'm sure you must subscribe to Underground. It was fair Underground. Yeah, subscribe to Underground. Yeah, it was my product. I'm so cheap. I deserve this. I'm so, I'm so cheap. I deserve to be a superman. He's one of the most interesting people. I've ever had the pleasure to get to know through his interviews. Yeah. He's such an interesting, different animal man. I mean, he's obviously just interesting. He's a sarcastic person, which is great as well. Which is great, yeah. Love sarcastic people. My people. That seems extraordinarily genuine. Yeah, but also nobody outside of maybe two other people, some of them are gone. A couple other Indian superstars have ever gone through what he's gone through. So he has a very unique perspective that no one else has. It's such a unique perspective. And I get what he's saying there. It's weird to say, I don't want to say thank you, blah, blah, blah, and stuff like that. No, I don't think he's saying that I'm not thankful for a different person. No, there's a difference between saying I don't want to say thank you versus being unthankful. It's the cultural differentiation between saying thank you. We learned very quickly when we said thank you to stupid babies or thank you to a friend. I remember my friend now through Indrani and her very close friend, Orpo. When I said thank you to him in person, he was like, no, no, no, no. That's impersonal. You don't say thank you to a friend. It's a cultural thing too. If it's a friend, there's no need to thank me. You're my friend. I didn't do anything out of the ordinary for you. It's expected of me to treat you in a way that here it's very... Here. Try going to Canada. The Canadians say sorry and thank you more than any other culture in the world. I understand exactly what he's meaning. And I love, and I think this is something Indrani would love because she's been teaching me this, I love his sense of it's okay to say I deserve something. It's okay to reward yourself. It's okay to look at something you've done and go, you know what? I'm proud of me for having done that. Unfortunately, that's not... at least in my experience, that was not something that was ever really taught. It's like your parents tell you you should be proud, but they don't teach you to be proud of yourself necessarily because it can come across in our cultures. Yeah, you're arrogant. But it's not. I think it's a very healthy perspective. Yeah, I mean obviously there's a fine line, but it's definitely... I think people are learning to be more accepting of being proud of stuff you should be proud of. Yeah, and to say I deserve fill in the blank. I deserve to be loved. I deserve that relationship. I deserve that success. I deserve that income. You do. You do. Yeah. And yes, sir, you do deserve the things that you've accomplished. Yep, he does. Fantastic interview again. We'll get to the fourth part here soon. Great. Let us know other interviews we can react to down below.