 Ray Hansen from Ogden, Iowa, and my CERP project is taking a look at different methods of controlling invasive species, primarily honeysuckle and multi-floor rose with the use of goats. You know, goats have been an effective way of controlling invasive species in timber ground, but not necessarily 100% effective, and so what we're doing is combining multiple controlled grazing with goats, and also following that up with a timber burn in hopes that the multiple paths of grazing followed by a burn provides enough stress to the invasive species that we can set them back far enough that I can manually and physically then control them from that point. My timber farm is about managed harvestability in my timber stand, and the understory had gotten so out of control I didn't have any natural vegetation going of my oaks and walnuts and hickory trees, and so hopefully if I can get this back under control I can get natural tree vegetation started back again that'll provide me a long-term harvestable tree plan. We have six replicative plots set up out here to do graze-only, burn-only, and burn followed grazing, and projects should be completed next spring, and we can do a new vegetative stand count to see how well we set them back. Obviously the coordination of getting both the goats in here, but also the other essential players in terms of data connection. I've been working with the WFAN to help me with the data collection on those points, and then also with a certified burn agent to come in and help me do a controlled burn. Without the help of Sarah there's no way I could have got all three of those groups lined up together to participate in a timely fashion and do this, and have viable data coming out of it on the back end.