 years with me now in the studio are military analysts Amir Oren and Alon Afyatar and Israeli expert on Palestinian affairs. We are talking about 15 hours to a rolling deal, Amir. This is something that will be very hard for Israeli public to digest. Families are awaiting a list of prisoners or abductees to be released by Hamas. They're not going to get it only after Israel identifies the people. It's a terrible process. Yes, but we know that Hamas has a way of publishing it on its own social media. The Israeli government is not necessarily the filter which Hamas would give exclusivity to. If Hamas wants the Israeli public to know the list, it will publish it a few hours ago. The Palestinian Islamic Jihad published the name and picture of an elderly captive who died in captivity according to the organization, whether it's true, whether she died of natural causes or not, remains to be seen. But yes, the term mixed emotions was invented for this event. There will be joy and a sigh of relief at the sight of captives, especially babies, toddlers, teenagers, and their mothers being returned along with grief at the fact that others remain at the hands of Hamas and other organizations, individuals. And what we are going to see is that at the end or towards the end of the four-day truce, Hamas will again try to convert 10 or 12 captives a day for a day of ceasefire. And we have an indication for that, because while Israel is supposed to release 150, that is three for one, prisoners or detainees, the Justice Ministry already published the names of 300 Palestinians. So another 150 are waiting for a possible… And Israel would have a very hard time breaking the ceasefire. Alon, many Israelis feel that Hamas is playing them with this, and they have a good reason. I can add, not just play, but also abuse, abuse families. I think this is the idea of Hamas as a terror organization. Hamas, I think, feels kind of in its comfortable zone, if you want. Hamas tried to, let's say, to play games with the Israeli families, to play games with the hostages, sorry, and tried to stay as a pivot, to stay as a dominant, I would say, active or element on the ground. And I think that up to our experience, long experience, we supposed to, I would say, to have kind of a last friction against Hamas, even a few minutes before the hour of day, if you want, tomorrow, I think, 10 o'clock in the morning. So we supposed to challenge, to continue challenging the Hamas terror organization, especially the rockets units, of course, tomorrow morning, even to the center of Israel, to the Gujdan area, which means who will say… This is a very fast experience. Yes. Who will say the last word? Who will, you know, kind of on our game. And I think that, you know, we have to be ready for any scenario. Anyway. If I may, but… I'm sorry. But I think analyzing the interests of Hamas, I think Hamas will want to implement the agreement, understanding, if you want, right? Because they're buying time. Yes. It's important for them. When we try to organize the priority of Hamas interest, I think the ceasefire is the first priority for them. And after that, the release of those terrorist tests Amir mentioned before. I think while analyzing the statement, if you want, of the seniors of Hamas, which I saw during the last 24 hours in the Arab media, I saw that the seniors of Hamas emphasized the importance of Hamas headquarters to implement the agreement because of Qatar. Qatar is the main role in this agreement, understanding with Israel. And for Hamas, it's important not just the ceasefire, but also to maintain or to keep good relationship between them and Qatar. The basic idea of terror is indeed to terrorize, not necessarily to kill or to abduct, but to terrorize, to get the other side, the population of the other side, to feel fear at the very mention of the word, in this case, Hamas. And therefore, we, during the Cold War, gotten used to the balance of terror between superpowers, weapons of mass destruction. But here, the barbaric innovation of Yahya Sinwar is to have a balance of terror with every Israeli individual who fears going back to his home, who goes out to the police to have a gun permit. All of a sudden, the very feeling of security and safety everywhere in the country, this is the aim, and one must admit that they succeeded in it. So far at least. We have to mention also, we're speaking about Hamas, especially, but around Hamas, there are a few satellite organizations, if you want. Minor or small organization, Islamic Jihad, the military branch of Fatah, and also Hamullah, a big tribe, which means big families that also have a few of our hostages in their hands. So they want to play independent play, they want to play separate play. And I'm not sure that they will, they will be under Hamas control. So this is the paradox. We want Hamas to be dismantled and to have no power on anyone. But now, we demand that Hamas go to the other organizations and get. Exactly. Yeah. So many paradoxes here. Now, Amir, what is the meaning for IDF, the fact that there's four days ceasefire and possibly more? The IDF will not lose anything by the fact that the momentum has been stopped. This can be renewed. The problem for the IDF is that it was stopped cold in mid-plan. It all of us basically got hold of most of the northern part of Gaza. Gaza is, in fact, split now between the north under Israel and the south under Hamas. And because the deal was coming, the IDF was careful not to send the armored columns into the south where they would have been stopped in mid-course. This is, this would have exposed them. But now that they are there, what can the IDF do? It cannot translate inputs into outputs. It put in a lot of power, a lot of bombs, a lot of armor, and destroyed Gaza. But if you look at the results, they are not very promising. Maybe they killed a few thousand Hamas fighters. How long does it take for a youth of 20, an unemployed, religious Palestinian youth in Gaza to train as a new Hamas fighter a few months? So in a very short period, they could have their ranks filled. While for the IDF, the only advantage is that it is now available for the northern front, which is why Nasrallah also joins the ceasefire. But the next new generation, you mean the young Palestinian people, which... But people say in Israel, you know, there's going to be time. We have a lot of time to deal with Hamas later. First, let's get the hostages as much as we can. I think while you are analyzing the priority of the two strategic goals, release our hostages and destroy Hamas targets, the time is not equal. The hostages are... The mission of release hostages is emergency. It's for today, for tomorrow, and the day after. But to destroy Hamas targets, I would say it's a kind of long-run mission. You mentioned, I think, months, I think years, even. It's not for this year, it's also for the next few years. Just to compare, to implement, or to illustrate the idea, go back to the north of Samaria, in the West Bank. The Israeli side, from time to time, from months to months, continue fighting the terror cells in Jenin refugee camp. We didn't finish with these problems. When Israel refers to keeping the security in Gaza, that's the kind of thing they're referring to. Exactly. But you know, the contradiction you pointed at was evident right from the first week of the war. The first official to announce the war aims was Tsachyan Egbi, the head of the National Security Staff. He appeared on television and very candidly said that the only war aim is to dismantle Hamas. When asked about the hostages, he says it's impossible. How can we negotiate with the very guy we want to kill? A couple of days later, it was changed because of pressure by President Biden and by the families of the hostages, because, indeed, there is this contradiction, and the hostages get priority, and rightly so. Right. Let me bring in a 24-year defense correspondent, Jonathan Regev, who's near the Gaza border tonight. Jonathan, talk to me about the debate within the security and military establishment in Israel about this deal. Yes, and not everybody is happy with the deal. Yes, of course, everyone in Israel agrees that bringing back the hostages is of the uttermost importance. And many people are saying that if you have a deal which brings back 50 people, especially the young kids, babies, mothers, elderly and so on, this is something that you have to take. But not everybody is happy with it. Having your troops on the ground for four days is sitting ducks. Not everyone is happy with it. Not everyone is happy with the fact that the momentum, which is clearly on the Israeli side, will now have to be stopped. And who knows when it will be resumed? We're speaking of four days as of Thursday morning, so possibly Monday, maybe. But then if Hamas says, you know what, maybe we will give you 10 more hostages. Maybe we will give you seven more hostages. What will Israel do? Will it proceed? Will it stop? Also the issue of reconnaissance flights, which, as far as I understand, will not be flying at all in the southern Gaza Strip and will be restricted for a certain time in the northern Gaza Strip. What better way to gather intelligence than reconnaissance flight off these UAVs? Therefore, a lot of people are saying that, yes, as important as it is to bring the hostages back, the price that we're paying is one that will hurt the Israeli war effort. And there are plenty of voices. Even within the Israeli security establishment, one very interesting thing that I heard today, people are saying, yes, the security establishment, the head of the Shabbat, the head of the internal security agency, the head of the southern command, the chief of staff, all of them are voting for it. Let's remember that they all filled with a sense of guilt, personal guilt. People are saying that they feel guilty for the fact that so many hostages are there and can you really separate the personal from the professional? Sometimes it's impossible. Right. Jonathan, thank you very much. We'll get back to you later. The IDF, as it was said here, is far from reaching its goals of destroying Hamas. I-24 News reporter Ariel Levine Waldman explains what was accomplished so far and what is the meaning of a ceasefire. Israel has been at war for a month and a half. Now, as ceasefire looms, what has been accomplished? We're almost complete occupation of the northern part of the Gaza Strip. This is very important because the main headquarters of Hamas in Metro Gaza and in the surroundings is exactly these days being destructed by Israel. In the north of the Gaza Strip, the IDF estimates it has killed 4,000 terrorists so far, 10% of Hamas and Islamic jihad's fighting force. This alongside demolishing 30% of Hamas' underground infrastructure in the north of Gaza and killing scores of battalion commanders, shattering Hamas' chain of command. The north is where the bulk of Hamas' rockets restored, evidenced by the drastic decrease in fire on Israel's center. And the military says that Hamas' political control in the north has been over for weeks as hundreds of thousands of Gazans flee south. They are moving because they understand Hamas has lost control in the north and that the south is safer. A safer area where they receive medicine, water and food. They understand it's an improvement. The IDF is beginning fighting in the Jabalia sector, a fortified Hamas complex with heavy concentrations of military assets. But there is still much to do. Jabalia is not yet taken and the fighting there will not only be heavy, but the ceasefire gives Hamas an opportunity to regroup, re-establish chains of command, reposition its war machines. Meanwhile, 90% of its fighting force still remains. The military and the intelligence community told the government, told the cabinet that they can deal with any consequence of this pause. We say, you know, that Hamas will take the opportunity to reinforce itself, to reorganize itself, but it's true also about the IDF. And even after Jabalia is taken, likely at a higher cost than before the ceasefire, the war must inevitably move south. So long as Hamas remains, the mission is not over. A full half of its forces are estimated to be spread around the rest of Gaza, including ceasefire or not. There is still much work to do. Alright, back in the studio here, Amir Oran. The IDF is unfortunately quite narrow-minded, professionally, because it wanted to show the world and the Palestinians and Hezbollah that it does not fear throwing in the heavy armor maneuver as it did in previous rounds. However, we haven't seen any brilliant operation here. We haven't seen any tactical brilliance, any operation which found Sinouar or the kidnapped Israelis and rescued them in a daring way. It was all in all a very cumbersome operation. The military machine drove on and destroyed, which is fine as far as it goes professionally, but nothing to write home about. Alright. Because it's not a regular military operation, right? Very complicated. You have to give it to them. It's not very complicated. No, but they have trained us to believe that they are capable of such entebres, apparently not this time. Okay. Meanwhile, world leaders are hailing the hostage deal reached between Israel and Hamas, including NATO, the EU, and even Turkey. Take a listen. I welcome the agreement between Hamas and Israel that should lead to the release of hostages and the pause in the hostilities and enable the delivery of humanitarian aid. We wholeheartedly welcome. The agreement reached on the release of the 50 hostages and on the pause of hostilities. We stress at the same time the urgent need for all hostages to be released immediately. And we will work with our humanitarian partners to use the pause for a humanitarian surge in Gaza. The declaration of a four-day humanitarian pause and reaching an agreement on the subject of exchange of hostages and prisoners, albeit a limited number, is a positive development. We hope that this step leads to a permanent ceasefire, which is our priority and which we expect to be declared as soon as possible, and peace. Erdogan is praising the deal. With me in the studio now is Professor Asha Asakashir, he's an Israeli philosopher who, among other things, was instrumental in formulating the IDF Code of Ethics. Thank you very much for coming. Now, it's hard to talk about ethics when you see children and women being slaughtered and kidnapped and all of that. How should IDF, how should Israel act facing this? There are certain values that should be manifest when the IDF is doing its activities. There are certain international norms that should be kept. And there is a spirit of doing what you have to do but do it very morally and carefully as much as you can. How do you do this when civilians are being used as human shields, hospitals are being used, places for refuge for terrorists? How do you do this? I'll give you the most interesting example, namely the claims for concerning proportionality. I mean, when people in the media naively or politically see a picture of a dead boy, a Palestinian boy in Gaza, they always take it to be against the rules. Israel has used excessive force and does not comply with the ideas of proportionality. This is almost always wrong, the idea of proportionality. There is a general idea in international law and in moral views concerning war that you should minimize casualties, minimize damages. The grand way of doing it is to keep apart the combatants from the non-combatants. Okay, here are the camps of the soldiers, here are the villages, the towns, keep them apart. Don't attack the villages and the towns. And when wars are done according to these rules, to this rule of distinction, then you minimize, they minimize damage. However, our enemy doesn't think that they have to comply with the regulations, so they mix the two populations of the combatants and non-combatants. So when you attack a position of the combatants, you can be sure that it is surrounded by residential, in a residential area by apartments of those who have nothing to do with terrorism or with the war. So your problem is how to minimize damages concerning this kind of people who are the neighbors of the terrorists. So we have, I don't like where the phrase the most moral military force on Earth, but I think that concerning this issue, we are the best. See what we do. First of all, we warn the population. We distributed one hundred and a half million leaflets. We made six million phone calls and SMS calls in order to tell the people evacuate your places in the northern part of Gaza and move towards the south through humanitarian corridors where you're safe. There were even pictures of an Israeli tank guarding the people who are marching towards the south, guarding them against Hezbollah, who would like to stop them from moving towards. Guarding them against the Hamas who are interested in stopping them. Okay, first warnings. There is a whole battery of warnings. Perhaps the most original one and interesting one is what we call knock on the roof, which means that before we hit a building because it is a site of terrorists, we send a missile on the top of it, but the missile is not explosive, but very noisy. And so it's the last warning, okay? So people then know that, okay, that's the end, almost the end of the story. If we don't evacuate the place now, then it might be too late. So we watch them and we know that many of them, and we can see a million of them having left their places and moving elsewhere. In addition, when we attack by air, a certain site, there is a whole procedure, a unit in the Air Force that tells the pilot or whoever is conducting that activity how to do it in a way that most probably guarantees hitting the terrorist, but minimizing the damage to one's neighbors. So we cannot help it. I mean, if a person acts as a terrorist from an apartment with his family or neighboring families, we cannot help it. It's a necessity. We must kill him because he constantly jeopardizes the life of people within Israel. We cannot capture him, so we must kill him. So the pictures of his neighbors, of his families, of his daughters and sons, his wife, dead, breaks my heart. I don't like to see it. It's the last thing I'd like to see within the framework of a war, but it's a necessity. It's justified by those proportionality considerations, which means what do I gain, what damage do I cause, and when proportionality tells me I can do it, I try again to minimize damages by warning, by removing, by doing all kinds of other things. Eventually, that's the minimum, the absolute minimum. So when people like the prime minister, some prime minister, some secretary of the United Nations say that too many people die, it's the minimal amount. Okay, I have more questions for you. Please stay with me. We'll take a short break and we'll be right back with more special coverage here on I-24 News. In a state of war, families completely gunned down in their beds. We have no idea where she is. Our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. Meg, I-24 News, Owen Alterman is with the families of the Israeli hostages waiting for any piece of information tonight. Owen, we are with you at the Osages Square. Yeah, that's right, Jake, but you can see around me lots of people still milling around here. A sense of anticipation, of tension, as you can imagine. The plaintive music continues. And the crowd, again, milling around both the families themselves and the family members, the activists and pastors by who are obviously curious and waiting, as is the whole country, to see exactly what will happen. As we all know, over the next few hours, we are expecting the head of the Mossad, Darib Arnau, who is reportedly visiting Qatar to get from the Qatari government that list of 10 hostages expected to be freed in the tranche tomorrow. According to reports in Israeli media, the families will not be notified tonight. They'll be notified only tomorrow once those hostages are delivered. Jacob, we can easily understand why. We're seeing a sense of anticipation and a finality to those in the event that something happens tomorrow that means that their loved one won't be coming home. But of course, hours of drama here in Hostages Square and across the country. Right. Owen Alderman, thank you very much for that. Back here in the studio with Professor Asa Kashair, an Israeli philosopher who, among other things, was instrumental in formulating the IDF code of ethics. And I want to ask you, Professor Kashair, about some of the attitudes we hear in Israeli society. On one hand, people say, look what they did to us. They killed children. They raped women. They beheaded people. Why should we be the ethical ones? There's no room for ethics anymore. It's not a game that you have two teams and they have to play according to the same rules. It's a clash between two civilizations. And the moment we start looking like the Hamas, then they won the war. We don't want to look like Hamas. We want to spare human life. We want to obey the rules of international law. We want to be compassionate towards civilians as much as possible. We don't want to be similar to them. However, this doesn't mean that we turn the other cheek. I mean, we'll fight and defend ourselves as necessary and legitimate. Do you see the attitude saying, we hate you, Hamas, for causing us to act like we do? It sounds sanctimonious and I don't like it at all. We hate the Hamas because they killed our citizens. And our hatred is not what leads us. I mean, we have to, as a democracy, we have to defend our citizens and we now defend them. And we defend them in a very radical manner, which means not only are they not going to attack us tomorrow, we would like them not to attack us ever. So we try to dismantle their existence as military and governmental entity in the Gaza Strip. We defend ourselves. We are not in the business of eye to eye. We are not in the business of hating, not in the business of revenge. We are in the business of defending ourselves in the right ways. With all the things that you've mentioned before, warning civilians and trying not to kill bystanders and so on and on, is Israel being treated differently than other nations? There's a double standard there. You see some of the international public voices are... some of them are anti-Semitic, but some of them do not sound straightforward and anti-Semitic, but they demand different standards from us. And we don't have to defend ourselves according to different standards. They are international standards. We observe them, and we would like others to comply with them. What we would like mostly is peace. I mean, we have not initiated that period of hostilities. We are interested in peaceful coexistence with our neighbouring nations and states. They are not interested in us. You heard the Hamas leader, one of the Hamas leaders in Beirut saying, we failed this time, but we'll do it the second, the third and the fourth time. That's exactly the opposite of what we are interested in. How much does the idea of invest in educating its soldiers about ethics and problems like they face now in Gaza? Every soldier, every person in military uniform is being given lectures and running exercises concerning the values and norms of the IDF. So what is for an ordinary person just a remote story is for those people in military uniform something they've been taught and they understand the roots of what they are being told how to act. I'll give you some examples which Israelis are well aware of, something like Qfar Qasem, that there is a certain village in Israel. In 1956, police forces did not act properly and killed civilians. Every soldier knows what this means. Qfar Qasem is a name familiar to every young person in Israel. So they are being taught and instructed and in every station of their military development they hear about it in a higher level. So for many years I taught in the military colleges so every college spends time on explaining the people who attend it why are these the values of the IDF. For example, the IDF is the only military force in the world that has sanctity of human life among its values and what we call purity of arms which means they restrain the force among its values. No other military force on earth although they are all democratic generally speaking they act like the way we act but they don't have these two values so why are we so eager to have those two values among our values of the IDF. So everyone hears lectures and write works and runs through exercises so we invest very much in educating the ethics to the military in military uniform. Professor Asakashar, thank you very much. Welcome. Thank you. Dozens of children were killed or kidnapped on October 7th. In many cases what was left behind were toys. These toys are now being shown in Tel Aviv more in the following report by Esther Eden. On October 7th, Hamas Teres kidnapped 29 residents of Kibbutz Berri among them 11 children. These torn and burnt toys collected from the Kibbutz tell the stories in place of their owners. These toys are eyewitnesses to what children went through there after fires, abuse, massacre and that is what is left after these horrible atrocities. Those toys that were found say two things. Either the kid was rescued and didn't take it with him or the child is not with us anymore and the toy will never go back to its owner. Lelach, one of the Kibbutz Berri residents recalls what happened there on the Shabbat of October 7th. I was in a shelter in Berri for 27 hours without water, food, without any possibility to go out under ceaseless fire from rockets, RPGs and small arms. Lelach survived the Hamas Massacre, but her loved ones were taken hostage. For more than a month, she's had no information about them. We don't know anything about them. Nobody tells us anything. The Red Cross is not even trying to reach them. Seems like it's not interesting at all to the United Nations and other organizations that should take care of them. One of the people Lelach is waiting for, nine-year-old Emily Hand was first reported killed and is now believed to be held hostage in Gaza. I think one of the friends who was rescued from the Kibbutz saw somebody's body and thought that it's her and told them about that. But later on, there were testimonies about her walking with Raya and Heela, taken by terrorists in direction of Gaza Strip. The lives of Israelis today are full of uncertainty as they don't even know whether their loved ones are alive or not. The only thing left to do is to speak up and make the world understand what happened on October 7th. It doesn't matter if you're a fan of Israel or not. It is only about being human and supporting humanity. We address each mother, each woman around the world and ask how they can continue their routine. When they know about ten-month-old baby taken hostage and being in Hamas captivity alone, we here, we cannot continue our routine. The world needs to understand that it is not possible to keep silent. The world needs to understand that it cannot continue its routine when their children taken hostage. Now these are our kids. But next time it can be any kid around the world. It can be my kid. It can be your kid. It can be any kid abroad. The organization Free Our Kids is in a race to reach ambassadors and international organizations. All the time, every single day, we are sending letters to the Red Cross, UNICEF, United Nations. So they will hear our cry. And after this event, we will also send the pictures. While Israeli officials are making an effort to bring the hostages back, they also remind the world about Israel's right to defend itself. Unfortunately, people don't realize what really happened. They try to forget it. And we can't forget, and we can't forgive. And we have all of the legitimate that we need to vanish Hamas. This terror organization needs to be out of this world, not only for Israel, also for the rest of the free world. Residents of Kibbutz Berry were not the only ones who came to the exhibition. They were joined by neighbors from other southern Kibbutzim, who survived the massacre. On that Saturday, I had bicycle training and there was a heavy rocket barrage. We decided to cancel the class and go back home. On the way there, we ran into 15 terrorists lying on the road who opened fire at us. It felt like a car crash. The windows shattered. A tire exploded and my ears were ringing. We turned around with the back of the car towards them. They ceased fire. My friend's father got out and said, Hey, soldiers, don't shoot at us. At first, we were sure that they were our soldiers. Ita and his team managed to escape and get first aid. In the meantime, his parents were in a shelter at home, knowing their son was wounded and not capable of helping him. The only thing they could do was hope for the best. We personally faced miracles on that Shabbat as a tire was not killed and was not kidnapped. After we got these miracles, for us as residents of the area, it's important to bring hostages back. That is the first mission. The residents of southern communities live with the hope that they will soon see their kidnapped friends, relatives and children. But in the meantime, all they have left of them are these mementos and memories. The children. With us now is Naomi Weiser, the mother of the soldier, Roy Weiser who was killed by Hamas on October 7th. Thank you very much for joining us tonight, Naomi. Thank you for having us. Roy was stationed at Karim Shalom border crossing with Gaza, where goods were coming to Gaza from Israel, something that will never happen again probably. What exactly happened there on this day? Roy was at Eras crossing, and he was stationed there as part of his army service. From the story we understood as told to us by fellow soldiers, he was woken up in the morning at around 6.30 to a lot of noise and commotion, and they understood something was happening on the base. Roy immediately picked up his phone and started to call up his commanders who were not at the base at the moment to get instruction, to try and combine all the people that were on the base. They started to fight the Hamas, and during this time, they also started bringing people into the safe rooms. Roy managed to get into the safe room along with a bunch of other soldiers that were with him, and at some point, they realized that a lot of other soldiers weren't able to get into the safe room yet, and that there was still a battle going on. So him and a couple of other soldiers decided to leave the safe room and go fight them. He asked who wants to join me, who volunteers to do this job, and voluntarily they left the safe room, I think three or four soldiers, and Roy realized that if they kept on going with the forward attack that was going, they weren't going to win anything, and he suggested they go around and out-flight them from the side and this way divert the fire so that more soldiers can get into the safe room. And this he did, and they managed to shoot down quite a lot of the Hamas and in this shootout, he himself was killed, but in this process, he managed to allow quite a lot of other 12 to 18 other soldiers to get into the safe room and by this saving their life and many other lives in the process. And some of his friends were taken by Hamas Tugasa? I don't know exactly which, but yes, there were soldiers from the base that were taken, that were kidnapped as part of the process. They came, they looted the base, they took bodies, they took live soldiers, whatever they could, they took. And this was a crossing of the border that actually was good for Gaza with people and goods coming in and out, and that was like a symbol of the good part of their relationships. Absolutely, yes. Now, this country is consumed with the hostage deal now. What are your thoughts today? Listen, I'm not a politician. I hope Israel will do what's best for our country, but these are women, children, babies. In no circumstance should they, you know, still be held hostage. It's been how many? Over 45 days, and Israel needs to do what it can, but I hope not at a cost that will do us damage. But again, I'm not a politician, so I don't want to comment on anything political, but what happened to these people? These people were massacred, they were raped, they were killed, they were babies in hostage. We have to make sure, Israel has to make sure that it won't happen again, and of course has to do whatever it can to free them. How is your family coping? We're getting a lot of help from our community. We live in a wonderful place, and we've been getting meals and supports. But we've friends have been coming to visit. I won't tell you it's easy. On a day-by-day basis, on an hour-by-hour basis, we're doing what we can. Listen, we have to move on. We're doing what we can to help preserve his memory and trying to continue our lives as best that we can with a big hole in our hearts. We wish you the best, Naomi. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Amir, back to you here in the studio. A terrible price. Terrible. And we are talking 1,300 at least of people young and old that were killed and massacred on this day. It's still, I think, haven't sunk into Israeli society and psyche at this point. Exactly. This is going to be the defining trauma of Israeli society from now on. The past 75 years are fast receding into memory, into the background, and the Israeli society will take years to heal and recover from this horrific event. Right. Now, back to the hostage deal. This is also something that will be very, very difficult in the next four days at least when we're going to have some lists published or not published, verified, not verified. It's a roller coaster of emotions. And for some reason, in all of the official statements, they say living or alive Israelis being exchanged, which may indicate that some bodies will also be returned. So we will see joy. We will see grief. We will see suspense. We will see envy. We will see a lot of tears of various sorts. Right. All right. Let's go to New York now. The UN Security Council is discussing the situation of women and children in the Gaza war. And I, 24 years senior U.S., correspondent Mike Wagenheim is there with more on that, Mike. Yeah, as we speak, Jacob, the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, is excoriating members of the Security Council and UN agencies in particular saying where have you been the last 16 years? You know, this meeting today focused specifically on the protection of women and children, which is apparently the only thing the Security Council can really agree upon in this particular conflict is protecting women and children. And Erdan, pointedly, asking UNICEF, the head of UNICEF, an American, by the way, Catherine Russell, listen, you haven't put out a single report on the indoctrination of children to aspire to martyrdom in Gaza. Nothing on the summer camps that are being run there for children to bring them up as martyrs. There's been nothing put out by UN agencies about women suffering, subjugated, essentially, at the hands of Hamas and their dictatorship in Gaza. And he said point blank, the only reason that everybody suddenly from the UN cares about the women and children in Gaza is because now they can try to blame Israel for any alleged suffering there. So Erdan just ripping the UN representatives there to pieces. By the way, the UN women leader Sima Bahos, who is a Jordanian, by the way, testified to the Security Council today that in fact her organization has been talking to Israelis about quote-unquote gender-based violence that took place on October 7th. She couldn't apparently bring herself to mention Hamas in particular in the allegations of rape and sexual assault during that massacre. There's no confirmation from the Israeli side yet that those talks have actually taken place within Israeli territory. We'll try to find out more about that later. The Israeli side tried to put forth their own briefer, an experienced person who has sat on the committee for the exploitation of women for some 12 years. However, China, serving as the president of the Security Council this month, denied that request to have an Israeli civil society member brief the council today kind of showing you where this thing is leading throughout the morning and afternoon here. Right. We spoke to women in Israel who are furious that the UN, among others, did not publish any statement or did not take any move about what happened to women here on October 7th that were brutalized and raped and so on. Any word from the UN about this? Just general statements. The UN deplores any sexual violence, any use of sex as a weapon in war, any use of rape, sexual assault as a weapon in war. But again, we've seen the testimony that has come out of UN officials, the briefings, the statements from UN agencies like the World Health Organization. We had a representative brief reporters at the UN earlier this week and was asked point blank when you went into Auschwitz Hospital, did you see any members of Hamas there because we've all seen the video of hostages being dragged into El Shifa. It's obvious that Hamas is operating. The representative of the World Health Organization said we were solely focused on the mission of helping those in need. We didn't ask, nobody said anything to us. So everybody can read between the lines here and understand what's going on, but the UN essentially, outside of maybe one or two statements here or there during October 7th itself the lead-up has barely mentioned Hamas at all, let alone criticized it. It's one of the reasons that Gilad Ardan, the Israeli ambassador, is so furious because the Security Council itself has yet, in any resolution it's passed to explicitly condemn Hamas as a terror organization that perpetrated the October 7th massacre. Right. Mike, thank you very much. Back to you Amir Oran here in the studio. Speaking about the UN, the trust or lack of trust between Israel and the UN, I think it is at the all-time law and it wasn't high before. Do you see any way the UN will be part of the next phase of Gaza? So the UN is both the staff headed by the Secretary General and the various member states who are of course politically motivated. They usually vote in blocks according to their perceived interests. And at one time, the UN was indeed the original force in the Sinai, the UNIFU, an emergency force, and then UNIFIL and all of those. But because of the bias, it was bypassed by the multinational force and observers in the Sinai, later in Lebanon, but that failed. There could be a multinational force here, perhaps composed of Arab contingents along with other neutral states, but China and Russia and other supporters of the Arab or Palestinian or Hamas cause might veto it. Yeah. But not directly from the UN? The UN, because of the 1967 debacle with Utham, the Secretary General, the UN has lost its independent power as an agency. It's only the member states and mostly the five permanent members of the Security Council who call the shots. Right. Now imagine if Donald Trump is elected in the United States, the UN will get even weaker. But if Nikki Haley, the former UN ambassador, maybe it will be balanced. Right. We have about a minute left to talk about really what's going to happen in Gaza the day after. There's an argument within Israel that should the PA get in and in what form? The PA in one form or another, in one phase or another, should get in and be in charge of both the West Bank and Gaza. But in order to do that, it must have a strong, robust security force, administrative skeleton, and the leader unlike Mohamed Abbas Abou Mazen. So that will be part of the leadership shift. It's a work in progress. Yeah. All right, Amir Oran, thank you very much for that. Thank you. This is it for us now. Stay tuned for more special coverage here on I-24 News with Kalef Bendovi. Have a good night from Tel Aviv. All the war families completely gunned down in their beds. We have no idea where she is. Our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. Welcome to this special broadcast on I-24 News. I'm Kalef Bendovi. It is day 47 of Israel's war against Hamas. And if things go as planned, the first ceasefire in this conflict is set to go into effect at 10 a.m. tomorrow morning local time. Israel and Hamas have agreed on a four-day ceasefire to allow the release of 50 Israeli hostages held in Gaza. In exchange, Israel will release 150 Palestinian women and minors imprisoned in Israel and the entry of more humanitarian aid into Gaza. Mossadhead David Barney is reportedly in Qatar today finalizing the details of the deal and receiving the list of names of those to be released initially. Our Middle East correspondent Ariel Osseron has more in this report. 47 days since the start of the war in Gaza and a glimmer of hope for the families of over 230 hostages held captive by Hamas. Early Tuesday morning, Israel's cabinet approved a hostage deal with Hamas that would see the release of 50 women and children hostages in exchange for a four-day ceasefire. Tonight, we face a difficult decision, but it is the right decision. All the security factors fully support it. They clarified in their full professional assessment the security of our forces will be guaranteed during the days of ceasefire and that the intelligence effort will be maintained. Under the deal, confirmed also by the U.S. and Qatar, 50 civilian hostages will be released in four batches one day at a time. After four days, the ceasefire will be extended by one day for the release of 10 additional hostages. In exchange, Israel will release 150 Palestinian security prisoners, women and minors, but non-convicted of murder. Israel commits to limit its drone surveillance activity in northern Gaza and to completely suspend it in the south during the ceasefire. Israel will also allow 300 aid trucks to enter Gaza, including fuel. Without the continuation of military pressure, there won't be any chance to bring back the next groups of hostages that we want to bring back. I believe that we are at a decisive moment in this matter and we all hope that there will be a temporary truce according to which the hostilities will be halted for a few days. Relief entry to our people will be intensified and civilians, women and children, will be exchanged for women and children from the occupation prisons. The Lebanese newspaper Nidal Watan reports that while not aside to the deal, Hezbollah will adhere to the ceasefire as well, provided Israel does so too. As for the families of the hostages, news of the expected deal has been received with mixed feelings. On one side, I'm happy. Second, I'm worried, okay, because nobody told me that my family will be there in this deal, okay. There was 40 children in South Gaza and they got to release only 30. Where are the others? I don't know. And I hope that everybody will release them. A deal with the devil, some Israelis are calling this, but with no real alternative, Israel will have to prove that the war effort isn't heard by it. The same thing goes to the chances to bring back the rest of the hostages. And according to reports in Israeli media, this will be the procedure for receiving hostages from Gaza. Hamas will hand over the hostages to representatives of the Red Cross. The Red Cross will then hand over the hostages to IDF representatives at the border. The freed hostages will undergo initial medical examinations and to be taken to hospitals, meeting there with family members. And there will be evaluations by security officials if freed hostages are in condition for an initial security debriefing. If not, that debriefing will take place at a later date. Well, for more, let's go up to the northern Israel and our correspondent, Nicole Setic, and it's been another day of intense activity and firing across that border, Nicole. But if these reports are to be believed, Hezbollah might abide by the conditions of the ceasefire and at least provide some break there for the next four days in northern Israel. Again, nothing of that is confirmed. That is certainly what Hezbollah is at least telling Arab media outlets saying that as long as Israel also abides to a ceasefire on this northern front, then they will do the same. However, if Israel does break the ceasefire in their words, then they're going to respond with a heavy, heavy response. So exactly what's going to happen tomorrow, when that ceasefire starts in the south, it's definitely going to be interesting to see how it plays out here in the north. But as far as what we've seen today, we continue to see action. In fact, within the past hour, the IDF coming out with another statement saying that for the second time, IDF fighter jets have continued to strike today alone. Different Hezbollah military sites in southern Lebanon, as well as Israeli artillery firing towards different Hezbollah terror cells on the southern Lebanon border. And I can tell you, about an hour and a half, two hours ago, we've heard some very, very heavy outgoing Israeli artillery firing from northern Israel into southern Lebanon. So we can hear this activity happening. We continue to see these different strikes in Hezbollah, even claiming responsibility for at least 12 different attacks on Israeli territory today alone. So it has been a very active day, but in response, different Arab media outlets in Lebanon say they have seen an unprecedented number of Israeli airstrikes in southern Lebanon today. So we're hearing so much activity from both sides, both the IDF and those different Arab media outlets in Lebanon. So as far as what we're going to see tomorrow, especially after such an increased activity and action today, day by day ramping up, might I add. This also comes as we heard from Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen warning about this security threat here on the northern front stating that if Hezbollah does continue with these attacks and Hezbollah in his own words is just an extension of Iran, he says that there might be no other option than to have a full-on war with Lebanon, something that he added Israel does not want to see. They don't want to expand this war on the northern border, but if we continue to see these attacks, Israel is going to have to respond in some way. This is according to the Israeli Foreign Minister, so definitely sending a stern warning not only to Hezbollah, but also he sent that to the UN Security Council as well. So trying to get some more attention as to the international response that we're seeing when it comes to this northern border threat and everything that we have been seeing for these increased, slow but steady attacks and after 47 days, these slow attacks seem to really be adding up. Well, it's perhaps a warning from Israel to Hezbollah verbally and in other means that if they don't abide by this, if they don't respect before they cease fire Israel could ramp up its activities against Hezbollah there in southern Lebanon and elsewhere. Nicole Zedek, thank you for that. And joining us in pseudo, now we have Asaf Zemiri is the former president of Israel in New York, also former Knesset member and minister of tourism and the IDF reserves Brigadier General Israel Relik Shafir, former commander of the Tel-Nove Air Force Base and a former, I would say legendary combat pilot for the Israeli Air Force. Asaf starting with you, I can't think of certainly one of the most difficult decisions anyone in government would have to make to agree to these kind of hostage releases. Give us on how that was, the government deciding there was some opposition from the far right Jewish power party but facing that dilemma making this kind of decision. First of all, good evening. It's unprecedented in the history of Israel, also in the modern world this number of hostages, their ages, their personal stories. It's been 50 days where all of Israel has been seeing videos of these people interviews with their family members. That cannot not affect decision makers. Everyone in Israel has had a chance this week to tell himself this could have been my child, my grandmother and I do not envy the people that had to make this decision at all. I sat in cabinets in my life. It's a very hard process, this by far the hardest decision to make. The way it works is the security personnel from the IDF, Shabbat, Mossad, National Security Board, everyone basically comes up and says, this is how I think, right? I wasn't in the room. This is the best we will get for now, taking into consideration every parameter. This is the highest number we will be able to release and the important thing that was documented that they said reported that they said we can hold for four days and still go back full on into this war and meet our goals. I do not know of a person that could make a different decision in these kind of parameters. Okay, some did, but we'll come to you, Relic, in a minute on the security. I understand. We'll get to that. I do want to go to our senior diplomatic correspondent, Owen Altman in Tel Aviv at the U.S. Department of Justice, where opposite IDF headquarters. And, Owen, understandably, some mixed reactions from the families of hostages, of course, gratitude from those who believe that they are relatives, family members, maybe freed, of course, much less so for those who are facing the sad fact that they may not see their loved ones anytime soon. We're not going to be released. We understand the general categories of those who will be released, but we don't know who and we don't know when, and the reporting across Israeli media is even though the head of the Mossad, maybe Kaleb Ibn Benaz, we speak, but in any case tonight in Qatar, we'll be getting the list, or is set to be getting the list from the Qadri government of those 10 hostages that who will be released in the tranche tomorrow. And, of course, we'll be getting the list from the Qadri government of those 10 hostages, but the implementation doesn't materialize and doesn't happen to avoid the feelings and the roller coaster that you could imagine those families would have gone through, but you're absolutely right. In any event, if 50 hostages are freed over the next four days, it still means that 80% of the hostages remain in the tunnels of Gaza, but behind me, Kaleb, you can see one of the emblems of the struggle to bring them home, right? Beyond the posters which have become the most important symbol, maybe behind me the second most important, the empty Shabbat dinner table with the challah bread for the Friday night Shabbat dinner with the wine for the Friday night Shabbat dinner, but of course without the people who would be around the table, the hostages still in Gaza with the fixtures of each of them on the table. And of course, going not just here, but emanating around the world, and you see this in squares, not just in Israel, but in public squares and in streets and in displays, the world over. As again, this continues to be a holy cause for people here in Israel, and Kaleb also for many, many people beyond. All right, well, and hopefully some of those pictures will be able to be removed in the coming days, but of course we must keep in mind the process of an ultimate there, what's become called hostage a square. Thank you for that. Relic, I asked Asaf talked about the difficulty government officials had had to make. As he mentioned, according to reports, security officials did give the go ahead for this, but let's talk about that, especially the idea because there has been talk about whether those four days and which we could extend beyond that could impact on the military operation and maybe even the air forces as this winter weather, we saw some of it this week starts coming into play and yet security forces saying giving the go ahead for the deal. I think after 47 days these four days will not matter much because we're talking about the very long and I would say tiresome in a way or that will keep going on. But I doubt very much whether the these four days will do the trick in the sense that Hamas has too much of a realization that they want to pull the time or push the time forward by not releasing all the names or all the people in order to have more days they will say we can't find these we can't find these we're having difficulties all kinds of difficulties in realizing what we've promised and this will go on maybe for several more days and that will be a cruncher for us emotionally so I'm not sure it's going to be just four days but it will set the course of the next release and so on. Obviously there is going to be a little bit of a setback but our projection that we are having we saw in Gaza if we renew it after four or five days I don't think it's going to matter much as far as the military is concerned but I do want to mention one thing in the north we have no obligation to stop the war with Hezbollah it's even a little dangerous to tie them together and I think we may see a continuation of the clashes in the north in spite of the ceasefire Even if Hezbollah from 10am tomorrow morning should take no offensive action I'm not sure it's in our interest to have that kind of a collaboration between the two scenarios up north and south and maybe we should make sure that there is no ceasefire with Hezbollah to detach those from one another all right well maybe there is some thinking like that in the military establishment given as our reporter in the north said this very intense bombardment we've seen in south Lebanon today well let's go down to our defense correspondent Jonathan Regev and Jonathan IDF getting prepared it seems for a break but it has scored some achievements IDF releasing new visuals today showing the discovery of more of that extensive internal network in North Gaza especially in the Shifa hospital area the IDF can point to some achievements there but it also has to now really sort of pivot do a 180 pivot and get ready if it holds for holding off for the next four days Yes so first what you mentioned the Shifa hospital proof video proof of something that in Israel has been well known for years the fact that under Shifa there are tunnels which are used for anything but medical treatment but exactly the opposite for terror purposes that is one thing and yes the army understands that as of 10 a.m. tomorrow it will have to sit still for some time maybe four days as the current deal seems to be pointing maybe more because we're hearing that if more hostages are released then perhaps that may be extended I'm sure that on the military level the army does not like that they would like to proceed with the military operation which is going very well at the moment the momentum is clearly in the hands of the IDF but there are other considerations there's a second path going on at the same time that of the hostages and when we speak of the possibility of freeing 50 or maybe even more hostages then everybody understands that this is something at least most people even within the security establishment understand that this is something that it's very impossible to say no to and therefore despite the fact that the army would like to continue it will have to sit still as it seems for at least four days well does that four day period present some advantages for the army we've talked a lot about Hamas retrenching our guest in studio General Shafir says he doesn't think it will make that big a difference on the army's plans larger plans for Gaza but could it be used to some kind of advantage by the IDF not so much if will it make a very big difference I think no just like you spoke in the studio four days in what is already a 47 day campaign and one that we understand will be much, much longer that will not make that much of a difference but if we're looking at these four days if anyone can use this to regroup and rearm it's Hamas which is of course taking blow after blow especially in the northern part of the Gaza Strip and those four days could give it some benefit re put back to use communication lines for example again with squads that have not been in touch with central command for a few days will it make a very big difference no but if you ask any commander on the field they will tell you that they would love to keep the pressure going but I think also they understand that the big price that the army is paying by stopping the operation of having tens and tens of hostages back and certainly they have to take that in consideration leave no one behind in the field Jonathan Regev in Steroge thank you for that and Asaf as you said this was a hard one for any government and the vast majority did the ministers did agree to go with it but Relic raised another possibility what if Hamas tries to delay it says we don't have the listenings wants to carry it forward and then there was the other question once it's done once it's a precedent to set and then the government basically then has to really kind of dance a little to Hamas's tune once it says okay now it's time for us to start the fighting we want to do another hostage deal it's not the first time we've done a hostage deal and the difference between us and Hamas will never change we cherish life to a point that we will pay extreme prices to protect life and if that life is life of civilians even more and if that life is life of children even more so I think in that aspect what you said about the military they understand they're going to be set back a few days it is worth it but the test will be do we come back from this full frontal into combat stay a few days outside get the hostages and come back the legitimization from the world might be harder or might be less exactly let's look on the diplomatic sphere because once Israel agrees with any kind of ceasefire or humanitarian pause or whatever wordage they want to use these days it's going to be a lot harder to say well okay you did it you did it once you did it for four days why not for four months I think we're going to reach a point and I think most Israelis understand this today that in order to meet our goals our military goals we have to do things even without the world supporting us because not everyone in the world and you see the numbers understands what we went through on October 7th and understands and I agree with Relik about the north and understands we have people misplaced from their homes that if they are afraid to go back and live there we can't justify the existence of the state of Israel it's not just around Gaza it's also in the northern border I was in Shlomi and Hanita this week seeing out of platoon they can't go back and live there nothing is worth it so the ceasefire for the hostages I think is a consensus in Israel maybe not but it was broadly supported the next test will be our ability to engage into war and to finish the job with Hamas despite the pressure we might undergo right well let me ask you about Hamas and how the hostages figure into it because again we are only talking about 50 we are talking about supposedly this is going to be children or miters and their parents Hamas seems very determined to not release certainly men and perhaps women between the ages of 18 to 40 identifying them as either soldiers or potential soldiers Relik and it's going to be maybe a challenge now taking into because again the families of those who would not release going to put a lot of pressure I would assume on the government on the military to take greater care now with the possibility of a hostage release not to take action that could endanger their lives well you know the cards we have in our hands are pretty good in the sense that we have air supremacy we have ground supremacy we're going to be pushing Hamas going to the southern part of Gaza we've had fewer casualties than we thought of before and at least the United States and the European Union's countries are backing Israel at least politically but what has to give Israel has to decide what the future is going to be like in order to get that support and the ability to continue a war and Israel does not want to say that the Palestinian authority will take care of Gaza because that means it'll be strengthened and we will be talking again about the two state solution and Israel most Israeli politicians certainly on the right do not want to discuss what's what will happen tomorrow the so-called day after right but this is a card that needs to be played at the end of the day to get support for the Gaza operation otherwise if those countries don't know where we're going why should they support us so that is a question that is going to we're going to face not to speak of the emotional I would say challenge of the people who are still in Gaza and their release is somewhere in the future if at all in whatever conditions so we're going to face although we have good cards and we will have to use them wisely all right we're going out to break a big question we have about a minute this is government can this government the way it's composed discuss the day after right now I don't think so and I think they're not trying to I think they're trying to win the war I think they have everyone's united support but I just want to remind the viewers one thing the last time we left disengaged and handed it over to someone it was Abou Mazen the notion that and then this happened the notion that we'll do the same thing and expect a different outcome most Israelis don't agree with today and after October 7th we can understand why and certainly this current government is not going to agree with that so we'll have to see what happens there gentlemen please stay with us we are going out for a break we'll be back for a news day 47 and a very significant day in Israel's war against Hamas we're now eagerly awaiting 10 a.m. tomorrow the start of the ceasefire and the beginning of the release of the we believe the first 10 of 50 hostages over the next four days we'll be back in just a few minutes stay with us on night 24 news bringing Israel's story to the world I-24 news channels now on hot back to this special broadcast on I-24 news and as we've been reporting a ceasefire in our schedule to go into effect at 10 a.m. local time tomorrow and the beginning of a four-day ceasefire that is expected to see the release of some 50 Israeli hostages in Israel 150 Israeli hostages children, minors and some of the parents presumably women, mothers that are with them now the ceasefire is looming for Israel and the IDF is nowhere near reaching its main goal in this operation of destroying Hamas but just what has the military accomplished in Gaza so far at the cost of 70 soldiers fallen there and when the ceasefire ends what more will be left to do when the new augment breaks it down Israel has been at war for a month and a half now as ceasefire looms what has been accomplished we're almost complete occupation of the northern part of the Gaza Strait this is very important because the main headquarter of Hamas in Metro Gaza and in the north of Hamas exactly these days is being destructed by Israel in the north of the Gaza Strip the IDF estimates it has killed 4,000 terrorists so far 10% of Hamas and Islamic jihad's fighting force this alongside demolishing 30% of Hamas' underground infrastructure in the north of Gaza in killing scores of battalion commanders shattering Hamas' chain of command the IDF is where the bulk of Hamas' rockets restored evidenced by the drastic decrease in fire on Israel's center and the military says that Hamas' political control in the north has been over for weeks as hundreds of thousands of Gazans flee south they are moving because they understand Hamas has lost control in the north and that the south is safer a safer area where they receive medicine, water and food they understand it's an improvement the IDF is beginning fighting in the Jabalaya sector a fortified Hamas complex with heavy concentrations of military assets but there is still much to do Jabalaya is not yet taken and the fighting there will not only be heavy but the ceasefire gives Hamas an opportunity to regroup reestablish chains of command reposition its war machines meanwhile 90% of its fighting force still remains the military intelligence community told the government told the cabinet that they can deal with any consequence of this pause we say you know that Hamas will take the opportunity to reinforce itself to reorganize itself but it's true also about the IDF and even after Jabalaya is taken likely at a higher cost than before the ceasefire the war must inevitably move south so long as Hamas remains a full half of its forces are estimated to be spread around the rest of Gaza meaning ceasefire or not there is still much work to do and still with us in studio as a former consul general of Israel in New York and minister and IDF reserves IDF general let's talk about what the mission of the IDF is going to have to be after this four days ceasefire I believe those are perhaps live pictures of a Gaza we're looking I guess at flares there above North Gaza where operations are still going to go on to the very last minute I would imagine and there's still some mopping up to do is that the expression in North Gaza but then it's going to have to turn to the south which is now which is also densely populated areas like Hamas may not have those tall buildings but densely urban areas and I've had some experience there and it's we're looking at what really could be just a costly operation for Israel is the IDF ready to take that fight into the south now what could be a months long operation I think there are several lessons that we've learned through those 47 days that will help us going south first of all the urban scenery is different because of the size of the buildings and the ability to hide which is less we've also learned about the tunnels how they're built the infrastructure we've also learned how the Air Force can actually do a lot of the work before the soldiers arrive if you can that do that in an area where it has told the civilian population Gaza is a safer zone let's say yes that is why the IDF was trying to push and asked people to go to the Mawasi area which is a sandy you can't say Gaza it's no man's land but this is an open space but on the coastline closer to the coastal line it's going to be difficult but we will have an effect we will recall General Sherman from the Civil War that his name preceded him and people started running away before they even arrived so the first part of the shock and awe that we've seen so far will serve not only there but also against the Hezbollah in the north but you're right it's going to be costly it's going to be lengthy and it's only when Hamas feels that we will not stop until we reach the end that we will be able to see some kind of an understanding that this is over and from that point on they may either collapse they may have to be evacuated like in Lebanon in 1982 Alright General Sherman famous for saying war is hell and it certainly is in any form we're just going to jump down to our correspondent in the south Jonathan Regev Jonathan we saw those flares above Gaza any other updates down there you have for us Yes so it is just over there in that area behind me I think we can still see the flares up in the sky earlier on we saw some eight or nine of them all together I'll move a bit so that you can be able to see now we can see a little bit more this is the area of Jibalia in the northern Gaza Strip this is where fighting has been centered in the last few days this is also the area where the Indonesian hospital is located this hospital which was in the headlines in the past few days what is exactly happening inside we do not know if there is heavy artillery earlier on we're not hearing such heavy artillery now but something clearly is going on a lot of flares in the skies over Jibalia in the past few minutes indicating that clearly something is going on inside there in the area of the northern west bank and let's remember this what some 13 and a half hours or so to go until this fire begins Jonathan Regev down in Sioux where Relic maybe you can help us a little understand the purpose of those flares Jibalia an area where it's still believed there are in north Gaza but in an area that's still believed that there are Hamas terror cells operating a mopping up operation and how would that be carried out well when these flares are up in the air they there's a light glowing on the ground which is even stronger than with the sun in the sense that it's up the area so you can see all the points and you can actually have those flares in certain areas to light something that might be not seen when the shadows are in there so create a non-shadow environment by having lots of suns in the area for a while and that allows the military to put pressure not just through the day but through the night and obviously when somebody is under pressure 24-7 at the end they're going to collapse one way or another so this is part of the shock and awe and ground troops and air strikes working together think of the idea that when you're driving with ways you know what's happening all over with other cars with and so on the pilot in the F-16 or F-16 has a map the ground troops have the same kind of a map they have an interconnection between them such a web type so that when they pinpoint an area where they're being fired from it actually goes through the data system into the pilot's helmet actually and the pilot helmet is actually centered in the area where the target is with proximity of about 10 or 15 meters so that way it can easily within minutes hit the target that the ground forces are asking for and that way refrain from casualties and actually this is the war machine the modern war machine that is doing what Sherman did in those times bringing hell onto certainly parts of Gaza now as we said earlier there are unconfirmed reports there that his Bala will also abide by the 4 days ceasefire with Hamas a sharp increase in attacks by the Iranian back militia and other terror groups in south Lebanon over the past weeks now that's part of the warning today we mentioned this by Israeli Foreign Minister Ali Khan excuse me if these cross-border attacks should continue regarding Security Council Resolution 1701 the attacks by his Bala Iran's proxy could lead to war in Lebanon Israel has no interest in opening another front but we cannot we cannot continue to tolerate such attacks the responsibility of the international community is to fully implement Resolution 1701 in order to prevent a war in Lebanon well Foreign Minister Khan just talking about UN responsibilities and this subject is of course on the agenda in the UN today let's go to our senior U.S. correspondent Mike Wagenheim in New York and Mike reactions there in the UN to what's happening on the ground there and of course Israel's ambassador had something to say in that forum to that forum that's right the UN Security Council just last week I'm sorry Mike I'm sorry Daniel Hungari is starting to speak we'll have to go to him stage in the outline of returning the hostages the IDF with all the relevant bodies preparing everything for the acceptance of the hostages in the intelligence headquarters they completed their preparedness we continue to act these moments to prepare ourselves we have the duty to do everything in order to bring back the hostages the elderly the women the men obviously the children our children to bring all of them back home we're talking about a very complex procedure which is not finalized it can take time and it can take a few stages I want to reiterate it's still not finalized it can take time until it will be our principle was and still is to update the families of the hostages first and only then to update the public the next few days are going to be typified with minutes of happiness and pain there might be some psychological terror exerted at us by the terror organizations please avoid disseminating rumors or unbased announcements we're talking about life and death here please listen to the official bodies we're going to make sure to update you with the most reliable information after we know it is based we will update you with the reliable information the chief of staff had an evaluation today and he approved the war plans for the continuation and especially the preparedness for the next few days the chief of staff met with the combatants and had conversations with the commanders every division commander came up on the phone all the commanders all the commanders of the battalions spoke to the chief of staff they spoke about lessons about security of the forces operations and how do we advance in the war in order to obtain the targets we still have a long way to go and we are determined the goals and objectives of the war to dismantle the capabilities of Hamas and create the conditions to bring back the hostages we are exposing this evening new documents quite significant from the underground infrastructure under the shifa hospital we saw a wide infrastructure that wasn't just dug in the compound of the hospital but it's actually under it it goes from the hospital to the various streets and goes into central buildings from the shifa compound onwards what we expose to there are actually underground war rooms an infrastructure that is supposed to serve as hiding for the Hamas terrorists another two shafts were discovered apparently they connect the underground infrastructure outside to the street under the building to the buildings one of them that I went into is an educational establishment you can see classrooms within this apartment you see a blackboard with English lessons for the children just side by side with a shaft with a floor what that secretly goes into the wall and from there you take steps and you go down into a tunnel which goes to the shifa hospital and continues to the north you see control rooms inside terrorists they go into the hospitals they go into that sort of school and they use this children as human shields we exposed it today to the world and we'll continue to expose it and dismantle it we will do everything in order to destroy the entire outline of the tunnels this activity and that's why Hamas is pressured we saw the sensitive and nerve system of the Hamas with its capabilities for control and command and to exert the central force of the Hamas the way it uses through the tunnels this is strategic assets which we will destroy in the home front I want to ask the public to continue to listen to the directives we shouldn't become complacent at any time even if the next few days will have different definitions do not be complacent until today we updated the families of 392 fallen soldiers in the battles and we accompany the families we strengthen them may their memory be for blessing questions channel 11 they say that not every shooting towards their forces will not be considered as a violation of their truth the two other MIAs that we had this was a problem at the time and what do you do now in order to avoid the same problem I'd like to clarify a few things regarding your question we held today a discourse of the chief of staff with all the commanders I don't know exactly when the truth is going to be implemented we are going to be prepared to do whatever we need to at the moment we focus on the war what we did today was to expose the tunnels of Hamas and destroy them that's what we're going to do just for hours and we'll continue to do so until the stage comes that we have to stop this stage if it does come we will stop the operation we are an army we're going to materialize what the government decides we will hold the field will enable the conditions to bring back their hostages because that's the supreme goal of this war we will create the operational conditions they'll be complex but we'll know how to grapple with them we have commanders with discretion we have lessons from the past you mentioned it we're going to be in a position that we hold a good operational picture of our forces we will have challenges but we will be able to do the important task of bringing back the hostages until it doesn't happen everything but as usual we are going to destroy the terror infrastructure and focus on the war 14 channel how does IDF prepare itself for the fact that troops may enable Hamas all right we're admiral IDF spokesperson we're admiral Daniel giving a briefing there showing clips of this underground tunnel system on the Shefa hospital to the world to see something Israel's been saying for years exists I'm doubted it's existence there's the proof right in front of you and that's just a bit of the full video released by the IDF IDF spokesperson also talking about the difficulties in the days ahead with the release of the hostages saying the details have not actually been finalized it could take time to the hostages start coming out and telling the public to have patients we're all going to hear Prime Minister Netanyahu the other members of the war cabinet speak this evening we expect in the coming hour what should the government how should the government be handling the next few days in order to make this more less difficult for the public or temper expectations or in any way to handle it I don't know it's an unprecedented situation I don't know because even as you said after the release 80% of the hostages are still the problem and it is the fact that every day just the beginning of the day families will be informed that their loved ones are going to be released is hectic the ability to psychologically manage that is very very low I think on an international level that what happened today with the idea of spokesperson is very very important because we've been hearing that we made up the Shifa theory too many times and the fact that we have even the ceasefire or the pause to use these few days to remind the world of the war crimes Hamas is making and the fact that we are kind of fighting this war with a hand behind our back that's the best thing we can do we need to be under support for the day after because as I said before we have to save the ability after the hostage happens to re-engage to make sure we continue crushing Hamas till they're eliminated and it's going to be harder and harder from an international point of view and speaking of the international point of view one of those who are closely following developments here in Israel in the region is Reza Palavi against the politics of the Iran's current regime now he spoke earlier today with Christian Mollad the senior diplomatic correspondent in Europe for our French channel about Iran's role in the Israel Hamas war here's what he had to say Your Highness Israel just signed with Hamas a truce of four days and the sparing liberation of 50 hostages is it for you a good or bad agreement with this barbaric Hamas people Well first of all on the humanitarian level of course no one can be not relieved to see that families are getting back their loved ones and that's obviously a humanitarian issue however let me just start by saying that this whole concept of hostage taking is not new it started in Tehran when the US embassy personnel were taken hostage they say that the regime's proxies are behaving in the same manner that they have learned the lesson as a result of hesitation and weakness from western governments that it pays to take hostages case in point the recent release of hostages in Iran in exchange for money that was liberated by the current Biden administration what I'm trying to say here is that if you succumb to blackmail we better expect more and more hostages taken down the line which leads us to this issue it's one thing to try to fight the symptoms the problem is you have to cure the disease and the disease is what is the source of all this kind of radicalism and terrorism and again it ties back to the chief financier of groups like Hamas which is of course the regime in Tehran According to you Johannes what role has the Islamic Republic played in the ongoing Israel Hamas conflict Well obviously it was not in the regime interest to see this peace process and the Abraham Accord bear fruits so they tried to sabotage it and they have always tried to take credit in this kind of action but short of taking responsibility and facing the consequences of that they've always tried to take credit for this kind of actions facing the repercussions of it this has been a tactic and that's why they have proxy wars because so far they managed to maintain themselves in power by keeping repression at home and distracting the world to other problems including regional conflict and of course case in point the recent terrorist attack on Israel the proxies from the regime are operating day in day out, they're getting financed they're getting trained, they're getting equipped with bad points and all that and this is clearly why would the regime spend so much money instead of its own people in the region if he didn't have any intentions to utilize at some point this proxies to sabotage any process or create more instability this has been a tactic that I have applied the past four decades and we see yet another example of it Well like I think that speaks a little to what you said earlier about Hisbala and the ceasefire Iran of course seeing this funding training and reports to what extent we're just learning Hamas and of course Hamas is defeated we have Hisbala in the north Israel has Hisbala in the north and of course another player has stepped in the Houthi rebels in Yemen who like reports fired a cruise missile towards a lot today Well with all due respect to the Houthis the problem is Hisbala because we have displaced to our own accords tens of thousands of inhabitants from the northern border they will not go back unless Hisbala moves back to the Litani area so Lebanon is a different story it's not an urban area it's rural area it's much easier for forces to deploy but I think this will have to be the Air Force work we've learned that the ground troops have no advantage in Lebanon and therefore the Air Force in the second Lebanon war so the Air Force may be tasked with pushing Hisbala day by day up north something below a threshold of the human elements that we've seen in Gaza is pretty dispersed so we're going to have a tough challenge up north and it's going to take a long and tiring war at a lower level than we've seen in Gaza for quite a while we are going to be going out for a break I want to thank Relic Shafir and Asif Sameer for joining us stay with us though we do expect within the coming hour Prime Minister Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yov Galat and Benny Gantz the war cabinet we'll speak to the public for the first time directly addressing the hostage deal that is supposed to go into effect tomorrow morning and ceasefire so stay with us from back at the top there in about 3 minutes with more on I-24 news for me a unique concept in Israel custom made men's fashion to your measurements made for me designer of all your events schedule your appointment at www.madeforme.co.il