 This code quotes around this code, meaning all those regulations building related. There are opportunities for other appeals to come to this board, but we would consult with our city attorney to ensure if this was the appropriate board to come to. Generally speaking, the board hears matters to be appealed under building regulations. We'll suppose the whole breadth of the building code regulations including the plumbing, mechanical, electrical, residential, building code, historic code, and the International Property Maintenance Code, which is adopted under that umbrella of building codes. That maintenance code isn't something California has specifically. We have almost everything else. We adopt the International Property Maintenance Code as a tool, and this last year robustly, that's a decent term, amended that for local use because that code is literally about that thick. Not that that's a bad thing, but it's a very straightforward code, a good tool. We amended it through Lowe's experience in many years of code enforcement to be more of an effective tool locally, so that's a nuance that is there. If we ever want to have time to go over some of these adoptions that we do every three years on the codes, I'd be happy to sit down with individual members or even do it if we chose to do a study session. There ever some desire for something like that to go over adoptions. In other words, we have numerous local amendments that typically the fire department and the building department work together and amend the codes to meet our local needs, and we have a pretty vast list of amendments that are above and beyond base code. A lot of nuances to what we can do, whether we hear about them or not in this form, yet to be seen as it's been told by past members and chairs. The City of Santa Rosa Building Division, which includes the code enforcement division, does it works really hard to mitigate issues before we have to get here. Not that we want to put you out of work, so to speak, but we hope to only bring matters that really are of a professional board like this to hear. I failed to mention since our last meeting, there's a new position that's been created with the City of Santa Rosa, that's the Assistant Chief Building official, that's Luke Kirk. You didn't get to meet him yet. He's been on board with us now for a year and it was August. You're going to have? Yeah. Believe it or not, so that's been a great help to me, which cut my hours down, as Craig was pointing out. Any questions for me or my Assistant Building official? How is the California Fire Code interpreting? Is it the Fire Department? Ultimately, they have the authority as the Fire Marshal, and that code is developed and adopted under an umbrella code, which is California Title 19, which is California State Fire Marshal Regulations, you're probably familiar with those. That is the California Fire Code, which also comes from the International Fire Code, like all of our codes. California really makes it their own, but Fire Marshal is the ultimate authority over the Fire Code, so that whole stack of California codes, Fire Code is Fire Marshal. Other elements of the Building Code, especially the California Building Code, lists those types of occupancies that are regulated by the Fire Marshal, so they have a lot of input into other parts of the code as well. Residential code, there are sects of second Fire Marshal, especially battery storage, solar applications, California Building Code, which mimics the California Fire Code now for chapter nine, which is fire protection systems, so they leak into other codes as well with authority, and then those occupancies like multifamily, L occupancies, labs, camps, educational. So there's certainly a lot of crossover, that's why the Fire Marshal and the Building Officials need to at least talk, which should be the case. If there's an appeal that includes fire and building, do they come and do a meeting like this? Yeah, and that would be the appropriate path which we've outlined before, for folks that may want to appeal, say it is a very specific Fire Code item, they would file an appeal like their first path would be to go to the chief, and if it couldn't be resolved, it would be heard by this board, because that code does live under that umbrella of chapter 18 of the Community Code. Fire services are typically pretty comfortable with utilizing the Board of Building Regulation Appeals for their appeals as well. All right, thank you. Anything else? Easy crowd. I think that's the test today. Chair Cooper, I have to apologize. I did not hit the recording button on time, so I just wanted to recap that we started the meeting at 4, 10 p.m. And we approved the meeting minutes and we took roll call, and all members are present. Okay, perfect. Thank you. So you mentioned that we were gonna have also have election of chair and vice chair. Yes. You can see that in your mirror is board business. Does that be of the appropriate place to put that? Yes, it's on the second page under 4.2. Oh, appointment of chair and vice chair, got it. Okay, never mind. All right, so the 4.1, am I supposed to read that or? You don't need to, yeah. Just had everybody read that, 4.2, so are we, so this is appointment, so we're generally voting for a chairman and vice chairman. I think we would nominate. Nominate. Receive nominees. Receive them. Yeah, but. Sounds fine, all right. So let's open up nominations for the chairman. I nominate David Cooper as chairman. I second that nomination. I have no objection. Any further nominations for the discussion? All right, let's let all in favor of Dave Cooper for chairman. I die. Okay, so Dave Cooper is chairman. We now need a vice chairman. So let's open up nominations for that. I nominate Ken Coker. Second that nomination. That acceptable, do you count? Sure. Further discussion or nominations? All in favor of Ken Coker for vice chairman. I die. All in favor, just looking for public comment. We have one member of the public here. Would you like to make a comment? No, okay. So there's no further business for the board for this year or for this quarter. So can I get a motion for adjournment? Pleasure to adjourn. All good. Second. All in favor? Aye. I'm sorry, who second the motion? We did it. Ken and Carl. Okay. Yeah. This is all for the record. Thank you. So we're adjourned at 421. It took me longer to try out here, but we're ready to do it.