 Are you mired in the past? No, and indeed I would say oh less to the recent past than perhaps the other ticket here. Why? Well because my opponent has the support of the outgoing leadership team. They are great people and they've worked really hard but we got a result which is a good old fashioned shellacate. So we haven't heard this explicitly. So you're saying that Phil Goff and Annette King and those others who support Goff, they are with David Shearer. Yeah, I think that's my understanding. Is that right, David Shearer? I'm not going to be talking about this. Look, I know the people who are generally lying up. That's the bad bit. Because I've told all my colleagues that I've spoken to, I will not reveal and talk about where they might be or might not be. And so we've got a week to go in this competition. We've got a week to go and I will not be pushed into revealing different things. Why aren't they backing you, Mr Cun? I think because the ticket that I'm standing for embraces quite a significant degree of change that will include bringing through new talent on merit across the caucus. And I've said before that I hope David would serve on that purpose. So there's a nice way of saying that they will be banished to the bank. No, no, I don't believe that at all. I mean there are great models of how senior colleagues have provided support and advice and brought through new ones. And it's about honouring every person for the contribution that they can make. OK, let climate change, big issue for people on the left. Who was Labour's climate change spokesman going into the election? Well, Charles Chevelle did some of the work to... Who was the spokesman? Well, most of the policy work was done around... Can you help him out? Brennan Burns. OK. The Labour Party at the moment, the rank and file, when I go along to those meetings, frankly, it's boring. If the government is going to sell off precious state assets, then we would not rule out renationalising some of them. And people need to be aware of that regulatory risk.