 All right, good morning. Thank you everyone for joining us to for our 2022 board election open community forum. My name is joy Garrett and I'm the community contribution coordinator. And just a brief introduction, we are hosting this open forum so that we can all get to know our board election candidates a little better. So first I want to say thank you to our candidates for answering our blog questions and those are still available for everyone to read. They're very thoughtfully answered so I hope everyone takes the time to check those out. But we recognize that people receive information in tons of different ways so we wanted to provide a visual and an auditory opportunity for people to learn more about each of the candidates. So, the first thing we're going to do is introduce ourselves so our name, our pronouns, and then maybe a short bio and that can include some information about your involvement at Drupal professional background or any of your community interest. Would anybody like to get started on my screen. Adam is right next to me so I'm going to pass it to you. Okay, well john volunteered but I guess I'll jump in so. Oh, I'm sorry. It's all good. I'm sorry it's my internet connection I did. All good. So my name is Adam Bergstein. I've had a lot of different roles in the broader Drupal community. I've contributed projects. I've worked at various companies that in different capacities that have used Drupal contributed to Drupal built products with Drupal etc. I've spoken at many community events including Drupal con. And I also a few years ago worked on a governance task force for Drupal. And that was I think back in 2018 if I remember. So yeah, nice to be here. Awesome. Thank you Adam, and we can pass it over to john. Hey, good morning. My name is john Doyle. My pronouns are he him and a little bit about myself I've been working in the Drupal community, mainly as a consumer of Drupal for the last 12 or 13 years started Drupal five Drupal six and have really done a whole wide spectrum of work across enterprise across small business across the community as well. Just now getting more into the speaking side of things and community contribution. But I've done a lot of this on the enterprise side for companies and organizations in the past, really excited at the opportunity to be here. And I'm really looking to give back and help push the triple community forward. I currently run an agency focused on open source technologies and Drupal is about 85 90% of our work. So really excited to be in the space really excited about the community met some of my best friends and coworkers through the community and really excited to keep this keep this moving. So, that's it about me. Thanks for the time. Thank you. So next. My name is Mark Dorson my pronouns are he him. I've been involved in the Drupal community since 2008 is when I first started working with Drupal run the Drupal five release Drupal six timeframe. During that time. I've worked as a developer contributor. I am one of the partners and the CTO at chromatic the Drupal agency previous are not exclusively a Drupal agency but a big chunk of our work has always been and continues to be continues to involve Drupal and various capacities. And after that I was, you know, worked in the publishing space, and that's where I really got a ton of experience with Drupal and how Drupal shines with with tons of content. I have contributed to the Drupal community as a in code core contrib, and I've also spoken and written about Drupal for a large number of those years including speaking at Drupal con. Thank you. All right. Lastly, we have about it. My name is Farun Joshi and I'm pronounces a game. I've been working with people since 2007 I started with football fire. It was fun responding to the forum since then but since we moved to select. Now I'm working there responding there. I'm a co founder of the circumstances services we work with people. And we also putting efforts in building local communities. Everyone is working with people but they are not aware of contributing but so we have been putting some efforts here and building local communities. Let's see how it goes. Thank you. Thank you everyone for sharing a little bit about yourself. We're going to jump into our Q&A portion. We have a few prepared questions for the community members to be able to get to know you and what you can bring, what your candidacy can bring to the board. So, we'll give everybody an opportunity to answer each question. The first one that we're going to start off with is what is your approach to building healthy team culture. What is your approach to building healthy team cultures, and we can kind of just popcorn so if anybody would like to volunteer to answer first. I guess I'll go. I don't see anybody else going yet. So my approach to building healthy team cultures probably, I think really just starts with listening and connecting with people. I think it's really important to have opportunities to get teams together to talk to them whether it's zoom or in person or whatever. Open up, ask questions, have retrospectives, talk through things and observations that people see and understand. And I think you have to establish trust among the team and try to work to kind of build those bridges and I think having those forums to talk through and understand and sort of connect with each other is a very important way to do that. So that's really where I would start. And I think I tend to be somewhat action oriented though so like as you're kind of building those connections what I am always like looking for or seeking are different opportunities to you know to take things that are discussed and sort of materialize them in ways to make progress or help people to take what they're saying or what they're sharing and do something with it so I think it's a great way to also show that you know you care about what other people are doing what other people are thinking and trying to make something of it so. I'll jump in and after Adam I think I think that that's a great answer I also think that healthy team cultures really start with. I'm going to call it strong leadership. What I mean by that is setting a clear north star that the that the teams working towards. And to be clear I don't mean telling the team what to do but making sure that everyone understands the combined mission of where we're going so that you can enable the team to kind of build the platform to get us there. You know and as leaders, you know we need to provide the team with the tools the resources the guidance that they need to plot the course to build the road and to navigate the terrain. And allow that team to have the ownership and the voices Adam was saying to be open and collaborative have effective communication. But I think, you know as as leaders is super important to kind of point the team in the direction that they're going so that there's this combined understanding of what we're working towards, and then provide the enablement for the team to to kind of self organize and drive that mission forward. So, yeah, I think, again, it's the strong clear north star and extremely important to open those communication channels and and build that trust with the team, as Adam, as Adam said, for me, beyond some of the points that have already been shared I think about how to create an environment that is that feels collaborative for everyone on the team. I tend to be relatively extroverted and vocal about, you know, I get excited and about solving some of these problems. But I want to make sure that my voice isn't overpowering others that, you know, are in the room, especially if, you know, I'm in a leadership role in the group I want to make sure that there's not that there is an opportunity for, for others to have the feeling that they can bring their ideas to the table and they're going to be evaluated and considered and work through, and that it's not just an environment where. Oh, well, this one person who is the leader or this one person who has been here a long time. It's just, you know, that's what's going to be the direction. So, you know, some of the, you know, best ideas often come from, you know, others in the group that are not in those positions so I'm constantly trying to think about how to create an environment where all of those voices are able to be heard. Yeah, most of the points are already being covered so I'm just going to add a few. The foremost thing is taking the problem or the choice or anything else other than problem. And the other one is the lead by example by the leadership of something that inspires others in the team. Healthy culture is the culture that can be built this way we can build a very healthy team culture. So I appreciate all of y'all's answers and I took away a lot from it that I would like to incorporate in my leadership style to. So next on our list is what is your approach to managing executive level leaders. What is your approach to managing executive level leaders. I think for senior leaders to me the key thing is setting clear objectives and goals and letting them figure out how they are going to execute and achieve those goals. I tend to lean in this direction, whether you know, in any kind of level, but as people become, you know, more senior. I think it's super important to trust them, not only that they know how to do the job. But you know that's, you know, they're not going to thrive and be happy in whatever roller position they're in. You know, you're micromanaging them in some way. You want to give them the space to be able to, and frankly, they're going to hopefully be able to do a better job at what you know what they're being asked to do then I or any of us would be able to tell them how to do that's why they're in that role. That's why they were hired in that role or placed in that role. So, for me the key thing is to set those criteria those objectives those metrics that are trying to be hit, and then, you know, getting out of their way, and let them achieve that, you know, and, and being there to support them when they are in a position where they need or ask for assistance. Yeah, I can go next. I think I think market on the head I think, you know, managing senior leaders is not too different than managing anyone else and in my opinion except for you expect more from them, and you trust them to deliver what they've been hired for the rest of the leadership team, and be clear leaders that that drive the mission forward, and I think a lot of the things that we said and building healthy team culture is important for managing senior leaders it's setting the clear objective, setting the north star and where we're going and giving them the tools and resources to be successful at their job and opening the communication channels for them to raise concerns to communicate how things are going what their needs are. There's any blockers in the way so that, you know, as, as a board or as other leaders, you can support them in getting unblocked or pushing them through or giving them the resources they need to be successful. So, so yeah, I mean I think that's the only thing I would add here. So, to what Mark already said. The next is it over. Yeah, so other than setting clear goal, I believe that having a regular one meeting as well as coming back regularly to the meeting and parking helps managing the executive level leaders so well, and this also allows them to grow individually as well as you know freedom to perform the task at hand. Cool I guess I'm last. So, I think the, the big thing that comes to mind is trust for me and I think you can, you know really each person's different so you have to work to build a good rapport, whether it's with an executive leader or with anyone else. But I think what's also really important is the use of time like I know executive leaders are often overseeing a lot so you have to be very careful about not over committing them, asking really good questions, trying to understand why there is a certain direction and try to oversee that and go go through that is super important to make sure that you are using their time well, I think. And then also just ensuring that there's enough trust for you to execute on what an executive leader is looking for, I think is really important. I think always kind of building that trust is the key for that. Thank you all. All right, moving into our next question. How will you embed principles of diversity, equity and inclusion into your board seat if you're elected. How will you embed principles of diversity, equity and inclusion into your board seat if you're elected. I'll start with that since I went last last time. I think, to me it's just very important to ensure that the voices of the entire community are heard, right. I think what I would look to do is honestly, you know before the board meetings and before taking up certain initiatives, I would actively seek voices in different perspectives to try to understand their thoughts before going into things so I would try to be prepared. And honestly, I think just in an ongoing basis I want to make sure that if I'm lucky enough to be the candidate that I would hold forums that I would listen and try to actively hear from from everyone. And, and I would want to actively pursue folks that, you know, want, want to have a voice and and try to magnify those voices so that would be how I would handle it. One thing that I think is a great asset to the Drupal community is the work that's gone on by the diversity equity inclusion working group and the collab all the people that have collaborated over the past many years and that and so I would rely on input from them and them in this case is anyone who is actively involved in those discussions about, you know, where are the blind spots what's what needs are being met but more importantly what needs are not being met. And where can the Drupal Association, you know, help support those needs of the community and push the community forward in those areas. Okay, the first thing is we need to make sure that we actually reach those principles, and we need more representation from under the present section like region like race and color. So we need to afford this principle by introducing some better way we already have some ways in place but we need better ways so that such people such sections and actually take advantage of it and build the part of the community in better way. The next is, we need to organize Drupal Cone, other than North America and Europe, if not every year every second year out of those regions so this way, all the users as well as developers from such regions can take part in this event and will connect it. Usually what happens in the post of traveling as well as second Drupal Cone is the case half year of salary from such regions not everyone can afford. So they do not participate or even attend Drupal Cone virtually. So we need to do something better to fill them included. Yeah, I think I think you guys have done a really good job summarizing it. I think, from my perspective, making sure that any decisions are made are backed by the principles and diversity equity and inclusion, set by the Drupal Association, having a way to check any decisions that are made, as Adam mentioned going back to the community and making sure that those channels are open and collecting that feedback I think is important. And I think combining that with the working group and what we've learned so far is going to be important to helping us drive this program forward. I also think promoting these principles will look to we should look to drive engagement globally to engage new audiences and actually hear from from what's going on there. As Bob and said, you know, Drupal Cone India, I think was a big benefit when it was going on I think we did some global events over the last couple of years with COVID, making sure that that gets gets back. I think South America was also one I think that was held in Costa Rica previously and engaging with the local organizations and in these different regions to hear from them to understand their needs, because they are different than than other places across the world and see what we can do to support and and maintain that wherever people are. One of the things I love about this community is there's people from all over the world, working on these projects and, you know, you pick up an initiative and you could have really someone across four different time zones for different countries for different languages working together. And I think that's what makes this community so special. So continuing to foster that and push it forward is is really important to me as well. I would add one thing if I could I think that, you know, all of us on this call have been involved in Drupal for quite a long time, but I think a very important piece to furthering DEI in this community any community is figuring out how to make it more attractive for new people to come into the community. And I think that is a big responsibility a big portion of the responsibility of the Drupal Association and how the Drupal Association can can help the Drupal community and push it forward in that anything that we can do along those lines in the is going to be a big help in the long term towards making the Drupal community or diverse and thereby improving the DEI experience. Thank you. Thank you everyone for your thoughtful answers. All right, our next question is, how might you engage the community and the current programs of the Drupal Association. How might you engage the community and the current programs of the Drupal Association. And once again the questions are in the chat to if you ever need to reference them again. Since I want to last I'll just follow the pattern and jump on this one. I think there's tons of tons of opportunities to engage the community as part of the current programs. I think being an active voice in the community is important for anyone that's representing the Drupal Association are involved in the Drupal project. I think there's opportunities their social media webinars in person events to really champion, not only the technology, but the chance that the community itself and the support system that it provides. And I think one of the things there is is a better opportunity to engage with new and existing community members sponsors and partners. I really want to highlight the partner part of this I think going to the sponsor channels and getting them to help promote and push it within their organizations is important. I think there's great opportunity that lies with other open source projects and partnerships. One of the things that I'm really passionate about and I think I see a whole lot of benefit for Drupal in the future is seeing Gatsby and Vercel at DrupalCon. I think was was great being able to engage with our partners for decoupled for headless CMS for the future of Drupal to really enable our platform to engage with these newer platforms that is stealing market share of talent. It is important and continuing to use the channels that we have right now to work with these different partner organizations other nonprofit associations and other open source platforms. I think is is key in addition to our current community and sponsors to be pushing the ecosystem forward. I think it's about getting the word out there getting the content out there, making sure that we understand that yes we've been in the community for a long time, at least everyone on this call. But there's a lot of new people that have never experienced Drupal before and have it worked with the platform and continuing to push that message and make sure that there's content for all levels and not taking for granted that everyone knows where Drupal is and how powerful it is and what it can do. And highlighting those case studies and really just flooding the market with content about how great the platform is. I think is is one way that we can leverage the existing programs and channels that we have set up to further this mission as we move into Drupal 10 and what the future holds for us here. Yeah, I had a few. I think the question was posed towards the current programs right. So, I think for me if you really stand out. One is the get lab initiative that I think is quite quite the enabler to remove some of the more Drupal centric things and make it workflows and tooling that the community at large can benefit from it's more common more common place. I really like that. I also really like the discover Drupal initiative I think that hits what John was talking about about trying to position Drupal to tell its story. That's a crucial thing, I think to, to helping get new market for Drupal and, you know, pitch our identity. And I would say I'm really passionate about right now is I think it's a newer initiative, and I forget the exact name of it but there's programs training programs that are put in place with people that are outside of the community that are, I think partnering with Drupal easy if I remember to train new community members. And I think that's a great way to, you know, not only get new community members but also to, to show that kind of outreach of like what we really care about as an open source community, which I think is about you people, you know, learn this, this great skill and be able to do something with it in the future. And that can be a game changer for people's lives and helping do not only do great things in the community but also, you know, be able to have a job and work and provide for themselves after that, which is great. And so I really like that program a lot. And I want to make sure I understood the question, how might you engage a community so I would just want to like, you know, maybe with the get lab initiative I would want to sit down and see hey is this working for you. You know, maybe get on a zoom call and talk through it, but also, you know, engaging the community around, you know, are there ways we can improve, you know, the training program and things of that nature or the ways that we need to tell Drupal story better. I'd like to hear from people on that, you know, I have my own thoughts as well, but I think just making sure that there's, you know, good communication between the community and these efforts I think is really critical. And because these efforts can have significant impact and they already are. So I think it's important to continue that conversation. Beyond what's been shared, I think the, you know, the discovered Drupal has been incredible, the get lab acceleration, I've been a participant and follower of, I think the Drupal Association staff has done a great job of communicating out, you know, the get lab acceleration has is a great example of that and there's been regular meetings that anyone can attend as a, you know, as a community member I've been able to participate and do all those things I would like to be on those things I would like to see the board, if I'm elected as a member be more transparent and open with not just the decisions that are being made once they're made but also you know they're thinking in the direction where things are being pushed as a community member. For many years I've attended the yearly public board meeting that happens at Drupal con. But beyond that it's sometimes a challenge to access what's going on at the board level. You know, even for things that you know really should be fine to be made public. You know, if you go on the board meetings page on the Drupal Association site right now. It's the published schedule for board meetings I believe is from 2019. So, you know, there's more that can be done to at the board level to get people involved and let their voices be heard. And, you know, create the next crop of people that will be interested in running for a position like this in a number of years or next year so that would be important to me as well. Okay, so it's my turn. Okay, so I'm from India so I will talk about India. Here we have lots of developers companies are working on Drupal. And the percentage of who are actually contributing back to Drupal is not even 5% of the remaining. So we need to, we need to do something that those organization as well as those developers are encouraged and motivated to contribute back to Drupal. And frankly speaking, they have no idea that they can contribute back to Drupal. So we have to do something such that they get awareness about this and actually engage with the community. They don't even post in Drupal forums or even respond to the forum questions. They just consume whatever is being presented to them from Drupal.org. We have to put some efforts such that those remaining people developers as well as organization take part in all the new cities and programs. You know, you just mentioned about the program but no one knows about the program here. So we have to do something about this. Thank you all for your answers. The next question is what would your strategy, what would be your strategy for recruiting new members to Drupal Association. What would be your strategy for recruiting new members to Drupal Association. I think the approach here would be similar to the approach for engaging in some of the existing programs and helping grow the voice. And while doing that, we need to make sure that we distribute this opportunity equally across all the section of the community. I think the approach here would be similar to the approach for engaging in some of the existing programs and helping grow the voice of Drupal and the Association and what Drupal stands for. I think it really is about informing people of what we're great at, what Drupal can provide. We're not just another CMS that's out there that can build websites for a platform or engagement for bringing in community members for it. Integrating with other frameworks and platforms, and we make it easy and we support our community to do it. And like I said earlier, I think a lot of talent market share is going to more JavaScript frameworks and people think it's newer and more fun to work on. I mean, I hear that from people in the community all the time, they're looking to get into React and play with these frameworks. And I think the more we can do about, again, enabling us as a platform that works alongside those that easily integrates with these platforms that is something that they can work on with these platforms. I think it's going to be beneficial. And I think there's opportunity to continue growing the footprint of Drupal, getting people excited about it. And I think what we need to do here is not just focus on the traditional CMS part. I think the site builder initiative is great. I think it's going to support the future of the content management space I think we need to get there. I think we need to put as much weight on the headless version of this for the integrations with the partners and with these JavaScript frameworks that people want to work with. There's opportunities to engage other open source projects here. And work with other projects to further the footprint of both technologies and work together in this ecosystem. You know, at the end of the day, we're all passionate about open source, we want to push Drupal, we want to support the platform. And I think we can do that by attracting talent and building programs that get people excited about it. And, you know, something I've seen a lot less of is organized training and I think Adam mentioned the Drupal EZ program. I think that's really important. I think I know some of people in my network have been doing speaking at universities, in India to try to get new students interested in exposure to the platform. And I think there's other industries doing this with other platforms. And I think if we really want to be serious about attracting new talent to the ecosystem, we need to look at supporting these engagements to go out and actually do trainings at universities, to get people exposure to these technologies when they're coming out of school. So they're looking for jobs that are relevant to Drupal, not just react in, you know, these other frameworks. You know, PHP might be falling behind a bit compared to that and just making sure people understand the power of the platforms and what they can provide and how the community is supporting them. So I think that's really important moving forward for recruitment. I wanted to go back. Sorry, Mark. I actually want to go back to what Mark had shared a little bit earlier, which is around transparency of like the Drupal Association, the board and where things are going. It's a great way to get people excited about, you know, what the Drupal Association is doing and becoming a member of it to help support that. I think they, and I also think it's important that the DA continues to advocate for the value that it is adding like the programs that are going on right now, which I think are super important. And I think the community will continue to support the DA and even that will grow, you know, when people get excited and understand exactly, you know, where things are going. And I think that's where I would probably invest most of my energy into at least trying to tell that story and share that and get people to say, hey, we need to support this and try to, if you're not a member, you should be a member to help make sure that we can go in this direction. But hopefully that would be informed by, you know, what community members are excited about, and they would be more inclined to want to sign up. So, I think an interesting part of this conversation is, you know, and probably outside the scope of this here but an important job for the Drupal Association is to do a good job of making clear the community where the responsibilities of the Drupal Association and where and where the responsibilities of the community begin and what is that line I don't know that it's, I think that's been a challenge for a long time, especially as new people are coming into the community it's not always clear what that delineation is when we're talking about driving more membership and engagement with the Drupal Association, specifically, you know, I think essentially in most cases what we're doing is we're asking, we're asking for some their money. That's very important to the Drupal Association because a huge percentage of the Drupal Association's revenue comes from events in DrupalCon North America specifically. So, you know, what we saw a couple years ago with COVID was when DrupalCon North America didn't happen. It was a true crisis for the Drupal Association financially. And there was, you know, a question of whether the Drupal Association would be able to survive that moment. And so, I think, since at that moment certainly is not that it was a new discussion but that moment made it very tangible and real for the Drupal Association. As a whole and the Drupal community as a whole that, you know, what would it mean to the Drupal community if the Drupal Association ceased to exist. And most people didn't like the answer to that and there was a big effort to to assist but you know, as we look forward, I really want to focus on like how do we make sure that the Drupal Association, that we lessen the possibility, the chance, the risk that the Drupal Association is ever in that position again. So how do we do, you know, continue to push forward and diversifying the Drupal Association's revenue, so that disruptions like COVID, something like that were to happen again, would not be as big of a crisis. And, you know, how do we look at in the ways that the Drupal Association is spending their dollars and, you know, to make sure that they're the, you know, being spent in the ways that are making the biggest impact possible for the Drupal community. So for driving individual memberships, we're asking for people's dollars. How do we make sure that we're showing that we are delivering them value and that the Drupal Association is delivering the community value and them value specifically so they're able to say it's a no brainer for me to renew my Drupal Association membership like I get way more value out of this community gets way more value out of this than what I'm being asked to contribute. Thank you everyone and mark that's a good segue into our last question. What is your approach to nonprofit fundraising and philanthropy. What is your approach to nonprofit fundraising and philanthropy. I'll take this one. I think my approach for nonprofit fundraising and philanthropy is really to engage both new and existing audiences they're interested in making the impacts with open source. I think we need to be aware that there's really three different personas when we look at fundraising and philanthropy for nonprofit. Groups of people that want to put in their time and improve the community whether that's through contribution that's volunteering. We see this a Drupal cons we see this at the Drupal Association and people are volunteering to support that. We've got people that are looking to donate money. They don't they don't want to really be a force of action themselves but they want to contribute back to the community and give back to the association. And you've got both strategic. Sorry the third the third one is strategic advisors. People are looking to further the direction of Drupal to encourage encourage where we're going from here and provide the insights into what's going to keep the community and the projects moving forward in the direction that's going to keep it alive and keep it prosperous and and push it forward. I think we really need to build action plans against all three of these audiences together are sorry individually. And we can target these different channels based on these personas the same way you would with any business and marketing really understanding these different groups what their needs are and how we engage with them. I think it's super important. And, you know, tying it to the last question, expanding the community. You know, not everyone in the community is going to contribute back to it. We know that it's just, it's a fact. And continuing to expand the community is is a is a necessity to increasing the amount of involvement in the community and it will help with the fundraising of philanthropy so I think that they really are tied together. And it's, how do we build the programs for each of these personas to further that those fundraising efforts and that that, you know, that giving back and make sure that we're addressing their needs. So dedicating the time to do that to understand these personas and build action plans against them I think is is where it's start. I know some of this is already out there. And the board is working on this but I think there's more that we can do in this space. My answer would go along some of the themes that I've spoken about previously, but I think that, you know, it feels similar to getting someone encouraging someone to join the Drupal Association, or whether we're talking about philanthropy and fundraising. I think about, you know, sharing a vision that inspires them. And, you know, whether that's at a smaller level or a larger level, feeling like they're a part of the community feeling like they want to work towards that vision whether it is whether with, you know, contributions or with their time. And, you know, selling them on that vision, getting the community aligned around that vision and hopefully with a level of transparency that is able to, you know, able to achieve that even more than we have in the past. So if they inspire people in that vision then they're going to want to be a part of that effort, whether it's with money or time. I guess I'll go next. So I, where my brain goes in this question is really around commercial partners right. There's a whole space of you know community members and I think they already are, you know, they already do have memberships. They have reasons why they don't want a membership we should try to continue to promote that but I think the real opportunity is around commercial partners that are using Drupal or have adopted Drupal or you know, or there's a blog post the makers and the takers right and the makers are often the contributors and they're the ones that are involved in speaking and whatnot. And the takers tend to be there's some very, very large commercial entities that are using Drupal right and I think there's a very real opportunity to try to engage them in strategic ways to not only raise funds but to help ensure they're aware of their responsibility for keeping the community and the Drupal association afloat. And it needs to be, you know, an incentive for them as well so there should be some benefit to that. And I think that's the space of what I would want to dig into is how to raise funds in that regard and how to, you know, drive more good will coming from from that side of the community. Next, the foremost thing is the streamline the donation as well as membership process for them. It is easier now but can make it further easier by introducing some fix and offering less spirits when filing to form. Other than that, we can ask our partners and members to put a link in their website who are asking whether you are benefit if you are benefited from this Drupal project, please consider donating or becoming a member. And the third one is we need to put a very visible link somewhere on the whole website. Clearly says donate or become a member right now we don't have it on the website. So sometimes members get users get confused and they actually do not do anything. Right. Thank you all for answering all those questions so thoughtfully, it's somebody who's like who's new to the association I learned a lot and took a lot away from your responses so thank you for sharing your insight and your perspective and your passion with the rest of the community. And before we go into our closing and I give a few announcements I just wanted to create space if anybody wanted to share anything or have any closing remarks before we close this out. Well, just a reminder to everyone, some key important dates. In order to be able to vote you have to be an active Drupal Association member, and that has to be 24 hours before voting begins so that happens to fall in zero hundred UTC on September 20. And voting begins on September 21, and it'll close on October 19. After voting closes the board will ratify between October 20 and the 31st and then we're going to announce the new board member on November 1. So please make sure that your membership is active and we'll be sending out more information when voting begins. Thank you all for for being with us and being present this time and looking forward to connecting with you all later. Thank you. Thanks so much for hosting joy. Thanks everyone.