 Hey, hey welcome to above-life channel the purpose here is to inspire your Spirit and to fill you with hope today. We're gonna have a live stream chat and channel With Michael Jackson in the afterlife Hey, I'll just give you a few minutes to pop in I'm just gonna double-check make sure that I'm On live here Hey, nice to see you in the chat. Thanks for popping in As always this is live streamed and the chat will do will be in the replay as well So if you don't want to be called out or said hello to during our Channeling this morning. I'm doomed post in the chat Okay, see I can't tell if it's on or not here. I'm having some trouble with my YouTube just a sec. I Wonder Is it live for everybody? I only have one person that chat right now sums up here YouTube is not always reliable. Let me say that Let's try. Oh good. Here. We got another one Hey, Michelle. Let's see Here we go. Okay. We'll see. Can you guys hear me? Okay? Hi, Mary. Nice to see you See if I can how check my son see if I can oh good. I'll check my son. There we go. Okay All right Good morning in the chat. Nice to see you Hey Today we're gonna have a live stream Channeling with Michael Jackson from the afterlife now. I know his birthday would have been coming up here soon and I've been wanting to chat with him for a while Wasn't sure of a good time. There's never really good time because I have kind of mixed feelings about it Okay, let me just be clear When I connect with Michael Jackson's energy, it's a little bit tricky because I can feel him at multiple levels So I'm gonna try to connect to him in a way that is Easiest first the easiest way to connect now when I say that multiple levels when you connect with spirits in the afterlife with intention to speak and communicate with them You can connect to them from here in the very tangible physical human matter world and identify with their Legacy or energy from the perspective of it being a human so their most recent incarnation so in life like how they would be in life So their characteristics would be similar or things they would say would be similar to what you would recognize the mass That's the first way, right? And then the second second way another level of communication There's actually probably three but another level of communication that I've personally experienced is as an ascended spirit. So when a spirit has Been able to give up their most recent incarnation More to release and let go and you thought that release meant and let go and Healing was only done in the human body. Well, it's also part of the spirit path And that's why we struggle to do it in our human bodies because the soul and the spirit made up of energy It's constantly trying to evolve and expand And vibrate at a higher level I'm higher doesn't necessarily mean better. It just means a different and So when you connect with them at a higher vibration level, it's It's just different they feel different. They're more like Reflective they're more of like they have more of a mastery sometimes there are ascended masters and Or like an ascended master like a spirit guide or something like that does that make sense so I'm not sure how I connect with them today. We'll see I am curious too about Connecting with him and maybe chatting about Lisa Marie because now she's in the afterlife as well I've got to roll up these sleeves you guys got to get going roll up these sleeves I got to say I'm dealing with a ghosty situation myself like an earthbound spirit scenario myself right now and And Not in my house here, but in a new my new place and have to deal with that which I'm not looking forward to but so Michael Jackson in the past when I've connected with Michael I have very much seen him connected to earth to the earth they earthly plan So I'm curious to see if he's still feeling that connected or if he's fully over in the afterlife Or if he's somewhere in between that's the third way. It's like a hybrid. They're both They have the perspective and access to both So as a psychic meeting out, I've been connecting with spirit Both earthbound spirits are more attached. They're human previous humor for foreman human former human existence and also with Higher spirits that serve as guides spirit guides angels Saints deities God goddess aspects Totem animals all that stuff so All right. Hey, Patty. Thanks for being here. Okay All right. So I'm sorry. Just reading the chat. We're focusing on Michael Jackson and this conversation today. Okay All right, so let's get crackleckin and see what MJ has to say see how he comes in today Oh, it's tough. Yeah, I know god, you know what happens. He pushes the energy pushes on my forehead and pushes me back Pushes me backwards. It feels like energetically. So I don't like that. I don't love that I need to stay so I'm gonna ground and send her myself and I'm gonna ask you guys to do the same Come into alignment with the spine from the energy of the crown down That's how my energy flows Some people are really focused on the energy sucking it up from the earth into the body and root up I go crown down. That's how I flow. It's just the way it is, you know So allowing myself to be really firm and solid in my physical body To honor and hold my boundary and energetic space as an empath as well in the heart space And also the base of my spine that root that tailbone dropping into the earth Connecting that's choosing the point of contact for me in this lifetime in my timeline here and now as me Okay, not wavering Very aligned, okay Ooh, all right, so The pushing back on my forehead is my clairvoyance. I see and he doesn't in my experience. He doesn't like that very much Michael is one who as a spirit even it's a little I'm gonna say I'm just gonna share how it feels to me Like a smoke and mirrors kind of thing it feels a little bit manipulative like he's used to Even in the spirit energies of him as a spirit He's connected to his body. It looks like suspenders almost yep He's definitely still connected to his body. It looks like he's got suspenders on to kind of keep him connected to his body It for a lot of different reasons you guys I'm not saying he's stuck here on earth But I'm saying he's like got suspenders and he feels like he's connected to his body And probably because there's a lot of healing from his physical embodiment his most recent one that would make a lot of sense I see yellow the suspenders look yellow or are golden that means soul work or purpose work Yellow is a color connected to your solar plexus or your spirit chakra your intuition. So it's energy that's energy my friends and He knows how to work the energy. We'll say it that way. Okay He can work the energy. So that's why I'm like I gotta make sure I'm grounded and it's interesting because as I'm talking to you I have bare feet my feet are bare. It's hot here. It's like june june 19th actually june 10th today and I I'm finding just wanting to be on my tippy toes not having my feet flat I need to have my feet flat on the earth so I'm grounded for this Very very grounded and connected. Okay All right all right So can you come in michael? He's such a ham what a turkey. Okay, so he comes in and he spins around he's got white a white t-shirt on gold suspenders Black pants no belts black dress pants no belt white socks and black shoes like you would see him as I mean he has a black hat on like a fedora It looks like a little bit wider brim though a bit of bigger brim a little bit which is different um He takes it off and kind of holds it to his chest and spins around um So kind of how you would see him or you would imagine him Hey, hey michael will you share about the suspenders? What are the what do those mean for you? What are those? Suspenders and it's just a t-shirt. He doesn't have a long sleeve shirt on over the top of it either What are those suspenders? What is the meaning of that? He says gabriel He says well, the he says angel. He doesn't say archangel, but it is archangel gabriel. He says gabriel Made a deal with me that I needed to come in like that for you I'm like, okay. Well archangel gabriel is a very showman like energy And I work really close with archangel gabriel when I do groups like this or have audiences like this um And gabriel is a communication and connection angel. That's kind of the primary theme of what I will work with gabriel for also for women family children Anybody in a parental role that kind of a thing um, also an advocate for children gabriel, so Does this make sense why maybe michael might have that? Just pause for a moment. Yes. It makes sense That there'd be some kind of work in the afterlife with gabriel, but also for me. He says it's for you He's like I made I had to make a deal with gabriel so that we could talk and this come in this way that I would come in this way for you I'm like, okay. All right. Do you want to have a seat? He said I'd rather stand. I'm like, okay. He looks like he's in the studio like a dance studio I can see the like parquet floors and stuff And I can hear his um shoes the little loafers kind of It's got a little bit Then he picks up a a bottle of water and drinks it He says, okay, so he's presenting this way. I'm wondering why he's presenting this way. Um Because I'm at work. He says I'm working And he says I'm working So what are you working on? My life project. He says my life project So are you connected to your previous life still as michael jackson? Yeah, well, of course I am of course I am Look at me. Of course I am He's showing me his daughter paris. I can see her right away. Every time you come in michael, you show me her first Is there a reason for that? Is there more of a level of concern with her? He says she He says she's risky That's what he says. She's risky. She takes risks. He says um From a parent perspective like I don't know that It's so hard to see him as a parent because he doesn't feel like he's was a parent in human life Like he seems so passive and so laid back and so like whatever kind of parenting But in the afterlife he acknowledges or he's saying she's risky. I don't know anything about her right now I don't know what she's doing. I know she used to play music Um, I don't know if she still does. I don't follow her or anything I'm curious if you know what's up with her go ahead and fill that in the chat But he says she's risky. She takes risks okay and it almost looks like He says overdosing or overdosing um Is she a cutter does anybody know that and did she try has she tried to kill herself? Do we know Has she tried to um take her life or um and her life or i'm unalive herself Has she tried to do that does anybody know those are different things being a cutter and unaliving yourself Totally different things one is feeling needing to feel Um, but he says she's risky And I don't know if that means she's at risk Oh someone in the chat just said um She kind of rebelled and started to party a lot. Okay And that she's grown his daughter's grown and changed so much since the step Yeah As we all do right michael Yes, he said yes kids right kids. He says kids Do you see yourself as a parent? Like how do you see yourself in a parental role? Like you can refer you can respond to that obviously from you know, your human life when you were alive or from the afterlife now He says at first it felt like He's explaining it like in the heart. He's giving me all the feelings So there's vibration. So i'm going to translate energy into words So it's not going to sound exactly like something michael might say but it's going to be this is the feeling You might be able to feel this you guys um lots of light pink energy That soft energy of empathy and compassion love gentle loving nurturing mother kind of energy He says um at first it was I just wanting to he says wanting to have family like my own like my own people And he says like um, he says maybe he's like reflective. He's like saying maybe to fill a void. Yes, maybe Um and looking back he says I wanted a family. I wanted to create a family But I didn't understand what it would be like to be a parent or how much that really would take from me to be like he says Like you're really good at some things right you really excel in some areas and other things You're just not good at you just don't he says I just didn't I didn't have the skills I didn't have the skills. He says I could love them. Yes. Yes, and I did and I loved my kids very very much He says very much. I still use like my heart my heart. I love him. I love my kids. I love my kids. I love my kids But as far as being a parent, he's acknowledging that he didn't have the skills to be a parent Like he didn't have the strengths or the skills or that kind of thing to be a parent So before you had your children I want to talk about love or I want to talk about your wife Lisa Marie because now she's made her transition into the afterlife And she was pretty tight-lipped when we chatted with her about you. Um, would like to chat with you about her a little bit To see if it goes both ways Have you connected or reconnected in the afterlife and if you have can you talk to us a little bit about how that works in spirit? He says well, I'm both Michael says I'm both I'm both So I'm he says you you said you explained it to them that I'm Connected to my I'm connected to body I'm on the earthly plane and I'm in The spirit world and he says the spirit realm Like on the spirit level he said I'm on the spirit level and I'm on the body level and uh He says so in life. I wouldn't have talked about her. I wouldn't have talked about her. Um Because there's just this understanding between us and it feels like there's actually a contract but um He's saying like there's this real tight like just understanding between us that we don't talk about the things That we don't talk about the things like publicly um So in the afterlife did you connect with her I saw her I've seen her He says it's not it's not how you think it's not like you're in the airport And you bump into somebody you run into them at the mall or something he says it doesn't it's not like that It doesn't it doesn't happen. You don't show up at the same social events. He says He says as at the spirit level. He says it's just not like that. It's different. It's different He says and I don't have he says and I and I he says I will tell you I don't have access to the full fullness of the uh that experience because I I I don't stay on that plane For long periods for like extended periods time like long long long times. I don't stay there um, I'm still working on things here and uh, It's not he says it's not that you can't Still work on yourself heal yourself from your past lifetime Which is this lifetime for us you guys his it's his past life now, but it's It's our lifetime here now Um, he says it's not that you can't do that just on the spirit level you can he says you can but you you can you can But you have that free will you have the choice he says you have the choice So but you don't have the ego mind attachment So how do you replay or identify with the story of what your life was and he says it's memory You just have it. It's much like muscle memory. He says like dancing It just comes back to you. Um, but you might be a little out of shape or you might pull a muscle more easy he says because You don't really know how to do this he says so So Seeing her was Was healthy I think he says what's healthy for me Um recognizing her Trying to adapt here As a spirit Is something that I can relate to he says I can relate to so she wanted advice from me if she wanted to spend time with me I would do that. He says but she's on her own She's got her own Things to work on and work with and he says she has her own kids and and she's got family here He says she's got family here. Obviously obviously you guys know who her family is that's there But uh, he says she's got family here, you know, so She's other things, you know But so is there anything for healing perspective with you and Lisa Marie? That you're working on either here from the body mint or attachment to the body perspective or at the spirit level Well, yes, of course. Sure. There is sure. Sure. Yeah, sure. He says We all have things to work on he says I have to make peace with things I need to find A place of forgiveness with her my our relationship was Not easy for for both of us. He says it wasn't easy and It was more of a he says it was more of a business matter Where we had This understanding, you know growing her growing up in a famous family and a famous household And me and I also did, you know, and he said so It's sort of a merger almost a business merger where Gives us each a level of Protection So what do you think she saw in you? What do you think it's about you? What was it about you that she appreciated? Do you think? Well, we understood each other. We're in the same world, you know, we're the same That that being famous since you were young he just like she was born into it, you know He says so there's no there's not a time when she knew What it would be like to just be a regular like an average person. He she never had that I had some of that At least, you know, he said so I think He's showing me I see him and her like I they must have been on opera or something. I see an interview with the two of them um And he said she loved me She loved me and he says I wanted to love her and I did love her But there's so many different types of there's so many different ways of love and He says just having common interests or like the commonality like the understanding like the experiences the common experiences didn't That's just not enough, you know He says um But I would have stayed in in the relationship in the marriage. I would have stayed in the marriage, but she was not happy um, she wanted more of a Oh, are you really going to say that he's actually just told me he actually just said she wanted more of a physical relationship She was looking for more of a physical connection and and more of a Um Like a white picket fence type thing. He says she wanted to be more um Average, you know He says He's just reflecting you guys. He's not judging her at all. He's not Making her he doesn't really have this like It's very fairytale like he talks. It's very like What's real and what's not it's hard for him to discern I think um And as a spirit I wonder if that's because your ability to manifest is so much greater when you have limitlessness like when you're not confined by your ego mind and you're just All this right This is kind of fascinating actually so I see him in two halves I see like half of him as this like green energy light green mint green energy That looks kind of like healing and then I see this right side that kind of has this kind of white around it which is kind of like a Do not enter kind of space or like a drop cloth Where things are being worked on and it's not revealed like you can't see it So it looks like he's actively engaged in his own personal healing for his spirit to evolve to the next level And then he also has a part that's very private That's happening for him personally that we won't be able to dig into which we wouldn't anyway We won't be disrespectful for that but we would ask I'm gonna ask what is the deal with this green part? Can you talk about that? And he says it's what you would know of me What you would know of me he says the how some people would say unfinished business or attachment to people that are here Is there anything in particular you can share that you are healing healing with? He says um Yes, um my body He says um and he's giving me the and I'm pulling out the term. He's not exactly using this term, but I'm going to pull it out body dysmorphia Where he wasn't happy with his body or his appearance which we know right because he's had you know surgeries And I'm itching my nose because I mean that's one of the big surgeries is that um, but he's just wasn't happy with his body or his appearance and It's not even he's not even showing me like an insecurity. He's showing me like uh Definitely and not even addiction like I'm addicted to changing myself. It's not like that. It's just this body dysmorphia that he had and um He just didn't feel He didn't he's sharing that he didn't feel like he fit in this is interesting. Can we talk about this? Let's talk about um gender and sexuality. Let's talk about gender. Can we do that? Are you comfortable doing that? Session he said he says yes, sure Um, we'll talk about gender. Let's talk about that. Um in gen as far as gender norms go. You definitely had a feminine aspect to you In fact, that's probably one of the things that made you so Popular or famous was the voice you had much more feminine and There was all sorts of talk and rumors that you took like that that that there was medicine or hormones That was given to you when you're younger to keep your voice high and all that kind of stuff and um And thinking that you brought up the gender or you brought up the body dysmorphia Concerned curious about how these things might play together. Would you talk about that? It's interesting because you move from here to over here So now I'm gonna look at you this way. He physically moved his energy. Oops. Sorry. He moved his energy Did you guys feel that some of you are intuitive? So you might have felt that I have my um, Disney world castle my Walt Disney 50th anniversary castle Mug today that I got from my niece I spoke with water this morning Okay, so can you talk about that a bit because I'm curious especially we're talking during pride month So this is a good time to talk about that gender stuff, right? Although gender and sexuality are two different things Gender identity and sexual identity two different things although they can overlap. They are different So all right, so let's have a conversation about that if you're comfortable This is part of where he's healing Yeah, so today if you were born today, would you identify with the pronouns of? What if you could if you weren't michael jackson and everything was based upon your He presentation, how would you identify he says more? Oh, this is going to be how people are going to go for me They're going to come after me see talking to you is tricky because you Get me into some trouble cannot trust you in the afterlife, but I will talk to you of course um, no judgment no judgment, okay, so He him and they He would use they he actually uses the words he they for pronoun Okay, and why is that? Why would you how would you describe that he says because I know because I know he says I know that there really isn't one He's like um from a higher perspective from a spiritual perspective a spirit perspective He said there's not one way to be in your body And that your body isn't your identity. He says it doesn't have to be So that would have he said in part If things were really much more open i'm going to use the word progressive He's not saying that he's like helping me feel this. He's not saying this directly He's saying some words i'm getting bits and pieces of his words. I can hear but i'm feeling it mostly um It could have lessened the body dysmorphia piece for him It wasn't just because he was famous it was because he wasn't sure of himself Inside like his energy felt different than his body did The masculine parts of his body. He's like i'm not that Um, but i'm not that sure about that's what he's going to say. Thank you for that That's just what he's going to say. I'm not sure about i'm just not that sure about he says um And we're so much more than that right and just our physical bodies So he says um, I have a lot of healing about my body to do and a lot of um He's going to say okay, this is an interesting way to say this. He's going to say a lot of misunderstandings about my body And he's also saying about my sexuality. He's bringing up He's actually directly saying an end about my sexuality. He's bringing that in. Okay. Okay So did you get like hormones and stuff when you were younger and he says no He says no, um, he says I did take supplements. He's going to say I did take supplements And like there were things that I I did take that Weren't to suppress puberty. He says it wasn't that he said it was just to to maintain the quality of my voice Not to keep me a boy not to keep me young not to make me into a girl He says it's not that it's about the tone and the quality of my voice. That's what it was about It wasn't like what you what you think he says Okay, so I'm gonna take a peek in the Chat here. Hi Anna. Nice to see you. Hello Lisa from florida Oh, this is a great question. Thank you. Laurie um, now that you've crossed over into the afterlife michael, do you feel um gender fluidity Is a higher vibration that many here don't understand yet. I think that's true What does michael say? I've said that for years fyi that we're all both masculine and feminine energies We're all both so when people are like super homophobic or very judgy I don't not understand that. I'm like, you know, you're both right Energetically anyway and the energy is the spirit Okay, okay, so in the afterlife we're all gonna have conversations about this and be like They're gonna be the people who are super judgy are gonna be like, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't I didn't know That they were the antagonists in the story, right? Okay. Okay. So michael Do you feel that the gender gender fluidity is a higher vibration that many here In the human life right now just don't understand yet He says He says, um, he's not he's not identifying what the word fluidity um That's interesting. I have not heard it expressed that way. He literally says style your gender style Like not your identity not your fluidity not that not that stuff. He's saying your style So it's kind of like your presentation and your representation Maybe your expression, but he's saying your gender style That's fascinating Because why because you could adapt and adjust your gender expression and identity based upon how you feel As far as your spirit and your energy is and what you're leading with and that's why it can change and adapt and adjust And why it's not like college everybody pick a major In order to graduate you got to have a major. It's not like that gender isn't like that But that's fascinating gender style Interesting very interesting Yeah, and because you have long hair and you had some feminine your face became kind of feminine and Like, you know fair like more fair a little bit like more like the red lips and the you know my eyeliner and all that And some of that I'm sure is like theatrical or performance based. He says some of it and he says yeah, yes Yes, and he says but it's not um It's just about how you feel You know you trust pretty simply though like you didn't have I mean you went through that whole bad era and stuff and then you had some weird stuff your war And I know you have like these soldiery things. I remember back in the day. Remember that you guys the like sequencing stuff and all that Jackets and now that otherwise pretty simple just black pants and a t-shirt or a shirt and open shirt and that kind of thing kind of simply Kind of things so that would that would give me a little bit of a cue that either Gender or the body doesn't mean much to him necessarily or that he didn't like it and just kind of wanted to keep it simple or That he's just playing the role kind of thing, you know what I mean? What people expect dressing how people expect him to presenting in that way, you know kind of thing But I don't feel like this horrible like confusion inside him. He's not giving me any impressions as to that I'm not suggesting that he had confusion about his gender, but I'm he definitely said he had body dysmorphia and that um He kind of didn't really fit in in either kind of space and in relationship too with men Or women like it wasn't and he's saying too so relationships with men is that was that an option for you and he said No, not like publicly. No, he just says no That's what he says. No, like very That's interesting because he like hammer puts the hammer down. No, and he's not usually like that Usually he's like oh, I'm really gentle and sweet. He's like no And he's presenting kind of like a teenage boy vibe Not an old man Like a 50 60 year old man I shouldn't say old as 50. God that would make me really old because I'm a big deal, but um He's not presenting like that and he's not presenting like a little kid Like sometimes he has the kind of this really childlike kind of energy And he kind of uses that like the baby talk kind of vibe and stuff So you're not so mean to him or judgy. He's not doing that He feels much more like a teenage boy and when I say that he does feel a bit hormonal Which means he kind of feels like he could be fluid In his temperament as we're talking But it's interesting because we're tapping into this right now and now I see a yellow shirt on him Not just the suspenders, but a shirt over him, which is he's saying yes, you're tapping into my healing and the purpose And so it does feel like I'm going to say this and I am going to say it because it's how it's feeling It does feel like he did have some confusion about his gender and how he might interact or identify if he had the choice And or who he would also then sexuality wise also partner with again, which these two things gender and sexuality are separate things gender identity and sexual Preference orientation. Those are different things, but they do overlap. Okay, you guys So he's is identifying both of those two topic areas and saying that There's definitely room around these areas for healing for him And when I asked if a man a male partner or relationship with a man would be an option for me Just says no Right away. No, like there's a lot of shame There's a lot of guilt and I know people have asked before like was Michael Jackson gay. Were you gay? and He's giving me this feeling of now. I see a big red heart energy So heart is grounding the heart energy grounding the emotions and the feelings and he's asking for me to ground the energy Of this question That's a big question. That's a big ask and it's very personal and it's part of his process as healing process and Um, he says there's a lot of speculation isn't there there has been hasn't there and he says and I'm gonna say it's nobody's business for me. I'm just gonna say to say for him It's nobody's business And at the same time Because we are in pride month If you had anything to share about that you could really do a lot of good And if that's where you're at it's trying to be in service to do some good It's like community service energy You know restoration energy No judgment I'm not judging I'm not trying to be critical My human ego mind has a really hard time with that though I kind of want to push that and be a little mean, but I'm not going to He says I didn't have those choices I didn't I didn't I didn't He says I was not a Freddie Mercury That's what he says. I was not a Freddie Mercury. That was not an option or a choice for me. It wasn't a consideration Very strong bonds and ties to his family very much a childlike energy very much stunted maturity wise He did not have time to explore. I think maybe that's why I see him as a teenager vibe Because now through the afterlife and the connection to his human body experience Maybe he can start to understand some of these things and make sense of things So he can maybe forgive himself a bit and let go and heal because there's a lot of stuff In that space for him. Okay Thank you for being so As open as you have been on this before We're not going to talk about his experiences And we're not going to talk about his sexual experiences. We're not going to talk about his sexual preferences We're not going to do that because he does not he's not No, like that's where the line is drawn Maybe in the future if he continues to evolve and grow and I'm not going to speculate I'm going to try really hard Even though my ego mind wants to step in and be like I got some questions I got some things to say I'm not going to Because part of above life channel is about allowing for healing and the space for that Allowing for you to be able to connect you to be empathic your empathic self and not to project into celebrities and other people Your own self work It's easy to judge other people, isn't it and when we do that then we're so busy doing that Telling other people how to live or what's right and what's wrong and we're really Not taking care of ourselves in that alignment category of discernment of what's right and what's wrong for us What's an alignment for us and leading by example by doing us being us, right? He kind of smile. He's looking down. He kind of smiles and looks at me says Mm-hmm Thank you. Like you're welcome You're welcome You're welcome Okay, let's take a look at the chat. Oh, we've been talking a while my friends. Thank you for being here today Let me just take a peek at my chat here Hi, Kurt. Thanks for being here Hi, saunty. Yes, I would agree with that. Hello rob love I like rob love Like rob low. I love it Peace. Thank you Yes, I am pushing Yes, because I do because you know why I'm human I incarnated. I have things just like you everybody does, right See what else here? Let me see Trying to read your comments Uh confusion could come from the time frame and the expectations of the time he was immersed in. Yeah Like sorry especially especially when he was young. Yeah, great question rob Okay, so hey mike mike. Come here. Um Oh my gosh, I just called you mike. Is that bad? I did it in front of other people He's like it's fine. It's okay. Okay, because I do it privately. I'll call him Sorry, I'm sorry. Um This is a really great question. Um with you actually healing on the spirit side Which you are we're acknowledging that What are your thoughts about how important it is to heal while you're on the earthly side Can you talk about that a little bit that could really help some people? I think that's a great question Thank you for that. My livestreams are so good. Okay, and you're hearing my uh, you might be hearing every once in a while my My leather chair arms. I have a new chair and the arms rub up against my Desk here. So sorry about that if it's annoying. So tell us about that. Tell us about that michael Well, of course, it would be easier. He says, yeah, I will know about that he says Hmm It depends on what easy means to you you know, he says everyone Everyone's definition of a hard life is different, you know, he says Was my life hard? Yeah. Yeah, it was hard in some ways And in other ways it looks like I had everything Had access to everything, right? Yeah, you had a freaking amusement park at your ranch, you know He says so it's just it's your perspective, you know, he says, um, I don't have an answer to that he says He's inclination is yes He says yes right away and then he backs off of it So from his perspective for his life, it would have been easier to He said, okay, you can say that I'll repeat it He says to not make the mistakes in the first place He says to stand up more for yourself to have your own voice That would be best. He says I would I would want that for others Yes Yes So I guess easy is in the eye of the person who is I guess is in the body of the person going through it You know, oh nice. Thank you, Lisa. She just said change the world make it a better place for you and for me and the entire human race Okay Nice great And with that, thank you MJ for being here for showing up today for chatting with us for being open I appreciate that I did the best I could you guys I really did. I mean, I'm human Right. I'm human Doing the best I can as well to connect To lead by example to the best of my ability and to acknowledge my own personal biases just like we all have right We're humans. We have brains. We filter Yes, we do So thank you all for being here today on this juneteenth for this conversation with michael jackson from the afterlife So I hope that we've inspired your spirit and filled you with some hope and encouraged you to live your life after all This is your life and you get to live it Just live it. Thanks for being here Thanks in the chat appreciate you Thanks everyone