 Welcome back. I remember it's entrepreneurship Tuesday. Thank you very much Barrio on that interview a pertaining pension plan So we have to be on the lookout on the days where when we retire So at Michela Shirazere, you can find me across all my social media platform Remember you can also equally follow us across social media platform That is at Y254 channel. You have a question on our Facebook page and we are asking Do you think the ad actually does pay? Do you think actually the ad does pay? And we are going to check into that your comments coming in and what are your thoughts pertaining the ad business So in studio today, we have our She's a very beautiful lady and not just looking at the challenges women But also the achievements. So our lady in the house She's going to talk about the challenges and the achievements She has actually going to receive during the interpreneurship journey and We know for that do welcome to Y254 channel. Thank you. I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me. Absolutely Yeah, so like I choose this to meet you and introduce yourself My name is Lillian Muli from Hidden Tears Kenya and from McQuinney County Currently working at Africa Youth Leadership Forum. Oh, why? Yes. So before Before we got here civilization and you wear so many hats and I would like to I like our viewers to find out as a young person and you allow me to say your age you're just 24 years of age and You studied your interpreneurship journey from way back. Yeah, I like to find out. What was your first venture? Wow, that's very interesting Because I find it so funny sometimes and I'm telling people about it But my first hustle he look or I used to come up is a matter of Ali So you can have a matter of Ali and baby a neighbor matter of Ali not pelaki a quack So basically to look what we're talking about shambles to not pelaki a quack or compote your home So we were being paid for one one matter of Ali me 50 cents But then I think to look one of 50 cents. Yeah, 50 cents. So you carry two we get one shilling I carried 200 bricks to get 100 Bob and That was my first attempt into business and what I did with this 100 Bob Is it the wutambi? Yeah, the wutambi 50 Bob for the small one and then the 50 Bob in Elibaki Cheek a chick So after a period of time And then I used to sell those eggs from that I could buy things that I want for myself Not that because my parents could not buy books for me, but I feel like maybe I need something extra I could buy that I need some money when you're going out at least to know this kid and all that in addition to the money They knew my parents as so I also needed money. So I was like, okay, just also could work So that was my first attempt in business, which lasted for only one day Okay, well one day that I carried bricks. I never carried bricks again. What do you move to? All right. Yes. Now. What did you move to from the bricks? So from the bricks and and and the chicken the chicken, of course, I ended up eating that chicken That was the end of business So the next business that I attempted to do was in high school But this was because we never really used to have a lot of money in high school I was in Mutale Gals ki Tui So I used to write letters love letters. I'm very great comes to poems and poetry So I used to write letters for ladies to send to their boyfriends and all that and they would pay me or Give me a slice of bread Oh, why yes So most of them would prefer because bread was something when we're in school They would prefer to give me money. So at the end of the town, I have some cash From writing letters. So you guys when you're breaking to hope going home You're very much certain when it comes to I'm telling you I'm going to get the best things that I want for myself And also like get a gift for my parents because every holiday I used to go home with a gift for my parents so from there went to University and Now University now marked the serious bit of me starting business So I was doing I was selling accessories to students when I got to like keep University The first I think through when I got to like the first thing that I I did was to get into a competition for miss miss Likipia, which I won and from that repetition I was like now. What can I do one was this the miss Likipia? This was 2015 Do you feel like when you're starting off because you're ventured into a couple of businesses and now you went to accessal at the University, you feel like the previous ventures build your confidence to actually feel like I can actually own a business of my own I think well, I wasn't thinking that way back then Okay, back then I was like I need money to do some of these things that I would like to do as a teenager I Couldn't do it. I took fire, but you can't ask money for that So I think I had the wrong reasons to start those businesses But when I got to like keep a university and starting a business where I'm selling accessories Then I was sober. Okay, then that's when I was like, yes, I can do this The confidence bit was now checked and then I was like, but if I have to do this I have to do it in a manner where I am earning I can feel I can pay some of this bills and also save Alright Yeah, now we have one miss like keeper. Yes, 20 15 2015 I am given some money. All right from that competition So half of that money, how much was it? It was actually four thousand. All right And I know it sounds small. Yeah, I got that Bahasa and I'm like Jesus So two thousand of that of that amount I took two thousand came to Nairobi And went to River Rond Bought my first bunch of accessories. Eh money-minded Then went back to like keep here. So the cool thing is in like in Nya Hururu We don't have a big shop where you could get accessories like good accessories So when I used to come to Nairobi after before you figure Nya Hururu guys were already like one order Do you have this keep one for me? So after every two weeks I used to come back to Nairobi to pick stock until to a point I started having you know huge Odors like so many orders to to give and I decided well I could get a huge a bunch of Accessories where at least Naka for one month to save up on on the transport at this point. Are you still in school? I'm still in school studying studying English and communication why and I am still a Student leader in the aspect of being the miss and I was actually financed by your business small business ventures exactly Exactly, and at the same time I'm a class rep So I can't miss classes and I have to give reports to lecturers all the lecturers and I have to run initiatives back in school It could sound tricky, but this is the thing when I got to University I really was sober to make my life different So I every decision that I meant was very intentional So I managed my time so well that I couldn't actually any part of God When it came to the important things that I was doing. Okay, let's look at now From the accessory business miss like keep here now you starting a non-profit Venture an organization. Okay. What does this nonprofit deal with before you actually even get to your farming business? Okay, so From selling accessories it funded my campaign Just to close the gap to where the NGO came from Furnished my campaign to become a student leader in Kenya in nothing Next to miss president So it funded my student leadership and then from there now That's when hidden tears Kenya was born in the vision of hidden tears Kenya because we realized people really wanted needed a safe space where they could have conversations and feel safe and feel like they're not judged, you know and Getting to hidden tears Kenya sounded really huge in my mind because I was like How are we going to make this work? But at the end of the day, it's all about displaying How do you discipline yourself and the sacrifices you're ready to make? So now in hidden tears Kenya we realized as much as we're having conversations We need to be able to mentor young people. So now we focused we have three pillars so the first pillar is education and mentorship and then we also learned for me to be able to run a business and To actually make it successful. I need to have an innovative mind and I need to be a leader Oh, why no at the same time, okay before we get to the you being a leader and gain to mentorship Your program which is the nonprofit program is you're going to talk about I like to find out at the point where you Student leader did you feel the need to give back and that's when the organization started off? Yeah, there was the need to give back and that's when the now the safe spaces I was talking about who are born because as much as we were in school and we looked Comfortable that people were not comfortable because of different issues. Maybe social issues. Maybe mentor issues Maybe financial constraints and all that So we felt the need to be able to live as a community With one voice and at least hold each other's hands because it was so sad to see at the end of four years Can I try? Really bad because maybe I wanna school fee. I'm a maybe I'll come going to I'm a maybe Something I'm a quite depressed and for one year they come out and all that so you are like no this can't keep happening We need to start something and that was the bath. How did you come up again? Getting getting a team. It's tricky. But again, you know people will follow you if you have a sober vision These are a vision that is just Excuse and they're like, uh-huh. And then what next there's no clarity. There's no clarity in it But there's a vision that some but somebody could share with you and you're like, I like it. I like it And I want to be part of it. Yes at the end of the day. It's How does it connect when it comes to that vision between you and another person? Do you have a value that you share or a common interest? So having So many students talking about all these all these things happening We had a common interest and we shared one value all together Which was humanity. Why we wanted to do good for people Okay, because to us that the first the first team that I got of three people and Actually for because of the person was doing the coverage and then the team They were really really so much into how can we make each other valuable in this community and how can we add value in our institution by making each other Empowered and more relevant to what they want to be or the best version of who they want to be Okay, so here is you found a team and there was clarity and you are ready to work and give back to the Society and address social issues. So what was the name? What is the name of this and I'm profit organization and what are some of the issues that you guys have addressed? So the name is hidden tears Kenya Some people Oftenly ask me why he didn't why he didn't yes Why he didn't because you'll find in the different spaces that we have in the society There are those things that we kind of Just leave them in the gray area and not give a lot of focus to them But at the end of the day they give us pain In one way or the other you get losses in businesses you lose friends in when come to social life Maybe you get to depression and some health issues because you ignored some of these things in life All right, so this pain is going to give you a little bit of tears Whether we see it or not You have some tears in us in your life in every life story. We have a tear So that's where the name came from and at the beginning of those conversations. We tackle things like rape the people of face to rape friendship that ended ended up having rape cases in between Like you know trusting a friend and at the end of the day they end up being the person who's going to rape you You know and we tackled drug abuse issues. We also tackled parental rejection I mean parenting rejection where parents were so Reluctant to just be concerned about their kids and we've talked about Depressions on our platforms and we've talked about suicide actually yesterday We had that we had an article it's on our Facebook account about suicide as much as we are talking about the person Attempting to commit suicide from one What happens to the person who is actually the support system of this person? You are my family member and you're trying to commit suicide What does that make me feel and how does that affect me? That is an article that was written by one of our members She's called Valerie and it's a very good article because it opens our mind to that to a point where you get to Ask some of these questions that they're never asked We are always focusing on the person committing suicide, which is good But what happens to their family members or the friends associated to this person because in most cases when someone commits suicide There's a possibility for either a friend or a family member to end up committing So basically looking at the hidden issues that influence productivity of a person exactly Okay, but now just to make it as Comprehensive enough we have we've had three pillars in organization And one is education in mentorship and then we have leadership and innovation and then we have super kids connect We're in mentorship We tackle young people and try to work with them give them information Network them and our program called machine and youth program And when it comes to leadership and innovation it's business now as much as you are young person and you mentored You need to pay your bills and then you need to live, you know Yes, so guys make sure you follow us across all social media platform That is at why 2 5 4 channel as we continue with this conversation. I like to find out how can people? Reach out to this do you guys have a website on social accounts where we can actually have a visual of these? Stories that are actually being told. Yeah, we have a social account In a Facebook it's hidden tears Kenya in Twitter is at tears Kenya We have a Instagram hidden underscore tears underscore Kenya, and then we have YouTube hidden tears Kenya basically just go to any platform and type hidden tears Kenya Oh, why so girl you hustler? Get some money Let's look at you getting into the farming business. Yes. Yeah, so alone you went to a chicken Farming but didn't go well They're small animal exactly so now into the farming business. Yes So what exactly are you involved into when he talks about the the farming business? What exactly do you do? So I keep ship So I sell them. All right each year. Okay, so not all of them At the moment have 12 12 because last December I did sell some of them How many do you sell last on a festive season six six of them? Yes, okay? Yes, and it's some reasonable money because each you sell at at least 45 how do you start on the on the ship business? This is how I started how much is your capital? 5000. Okay When I was in first year in our village We had a school that had been started and they needed a teacher So when I went for long holiday, I was employed there Hey, do you have a social life? Yes, I do. I'm listening to you and every single break. You're just getting into a different venture I have a specific period of time another venture. So you have a social life. Yes. Okay now you you want to break and There's an opportunity for teaching. Yes I loved it. So they used to pay me 5000 per month. Okay, and of course these were two months So the first month I was like, this is my first official salary Apart from says as well as you know, Nageethaftiyo Koinjee. So with the first 5,000 that I got I bought two Sheep and from that the male and a female and from that For four years. I didn't sell them. Okay, so they got up to 16 Oh, I'll be hold it there. Yes, hold the spot there. So let's take us back to hidden tears Yes, and let's find out The couple of projects that you guys have have done and the impact that has that has had in the society So this is hidden underscore tears in instagram. Yeah Okay, so This certificate of registration Those recognition recognition. Yeah, sorry. These are On on friday. All right. We were recognized the Zuri awards. Oh, nice. Yeah We were nominated and we were recognized at the Zuri awards Which for us was I had not seen that that's amazing Which for us was a big win because it gave us a voice In aspect to what we are doing and exactly what we've been championing for Yeah, so this is where it's coming from. It's Zuri awards a recognition What was the feeling when you guys got nominated and walked away with that award? I mean getting this certificate for us as a team We were like yes Now we can see that it's actually making sense to people Carrying the value that we hold most dear to our hearts to understand the importance of every human In our communities for us. It was a big win And we were like for a moment through the challenges of course everything has challenges the challenges We're facing we were like, you know what we can do this. We can still go on and achieve more So it was one a kick to do more and more and two That gave us a sense of connection with people That they understand what you're doing. All right. I see projects where you're working with young the young people Yes, the young kids. Yes, uh, still under. This is my queenie. Yes So this is my queenie and we're having a summit with young young, uh, women because in 2017 we had 11 cases in a village Where young ladies were pregnant while doing their ac But last year we had zero from these sessions. We've been able to have Constant conversation with young people from my queenie and having this conversation. They've made them more Relevant when it comes to decision-making and the choices that they make in their lives here All right So guys make sure you follow uh hidden underscore tears underscore kenya. That's on your in on their instagram page And uh, little mule, you're doing amazing job. Thank you. Give him back to the society Uh having your own business venture. Do you look forward to ever getting employed? I have a career I am looking forward to make it, uh More comprehensive by getting more opportunities before I completely walk out of employment So, yes, I have a career that I want to grow. Oh, right. Yeah, just as we wind up. I'll let uh early on we were having a conversation prior to our Entrepreneurship Tuesday fans get to see us. So there was this particular Information that you gave me about your love for fashion and getting back to the fashion industry So is that another business venture that we should look out for that lillian mule will be getting into a very soon Yeah, yeah fashion industry. I'm coming back. I'm coming back for a while We started the book back when I was in school But it couldn't survive because of some of the challenges that we're facing So we hold it a little bit, but this year we're coming back strong Yeah, we're coming back. So watch out the book is coming back. The book is coming I'm so excited because our first design is actually out this month. Yeah, so we're keeping it Calm until we're ready and then we'll be out for business Yes I give a social handle so that people can keep tabs On all your produce that are coming up and other new ventures because lillian mule is full of new ventures every single time So probably use or coming number four and you just give us Your social accounts and how people can reach out to you. Okay. So in facebook is lillian mule if you want to Have a conversation on a personal space when you want to have a conversation when it comes to hidden tears, kenya It's hidden tears kenya in all platforms Twitter it's at claudaline, but my name is lillian mule so you can also find me there When one thing I really want to tell young people when it comes to entrepreneurship It's all about using the resources that you have At that moment Don't look out to wait to get more resources use what you have right now to build your tomorrow and Discipline yourself to be able to follow the dreams and the chances and opportunities that you have at the moment Be very intentional to note the opportunities that are there Why yes because opportunities are there for young people But they pass by because people are not very intentional at noticing these opportunities The moment you pass by an opportunity that's gone So you need to be sober buddha You need to be sober to see these opportunities and invest invest wisely And make decisions that are more important to you have the courage to stand for what you want Not what other people want. There it is. Those are the final thoughts of So that's all we had time for Looking forward to doing this again. We have more time Yes So make sure you follow us across all our social media platform that is at y254 channel At michel asher is where you can find me across all my social media platform very more. We'll be coming up with another interview