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It will start by 3pm as I said Dr. Nandmi. We'll be starting by 3pm sharp. Thank you for your patience. Hey Claudio. So this webinar will be like 1 hour, 1 hour 30 minutes or so. So we appreciate your presence and patience. Good afternoon. Good afternoon everyone in India. People are saying hello to all our experts. They are so excited to have your point of views on the next generation of school enhancing classrooms with coding AI and robotics. So yes, they are saying good afternoon. Good evening. Hello to all our experts to all our delegates. They are so excited to have an interaction over YouTube Commons. I think it's high time we can start now. So yeah. Good day and a very warm welcome to everyone. Thank you for joining us today for the most awaited webinar. I am Shruti Khare from Stempedia, your today's host for this webinar. Today's webinar is all about next generation schools enhancing classrooms with coding AI and robotics on which we'll have an inspirational insights for our schools, educators and students from the experts who have joined us. Let's look at our agenda. We'll have an introductory address from our experts to our experts for our experts, followed by the keynotes from Dr. Timo on Finland coding AI and robotics past present future and from Mr. Timo on enhancing classrooms with coding AI and robotics. Moving further, we all will have an opportunity to know the insights from our delegates on next generation is school enhancing classrooms with coding AI and robotics. Afterwards, we'll have the session on how Stempedia is helping schools to develop an AI and robotics learning ecosystem with fun and engaging learning activities. Last but not the least, our students, educators and parents will also be able to ask their queries on YouTube by posting it in common section. You have to keep this in mind. You can ask your queries to us at any time on YouTube comments and we'll answer them by end of the session by last at the last of the session. So I hope you will be posting your queries and you all are supposed to share your feedback with us. So feedback link is already mentioned in the YouTube description. So you can take you can take that link in the repress and you can share your feedback with us simultaneously after getting your feedback. We will share these certificates as well with you all. So I know all of you are excited and so are we. Then without getting a further delay, I would like to take a moment to introduce you all to our today's esteemed delegates. Firstly, let me introduce you to Dr. Timo Lennon and associate professor of new media design and learning at the all to university school of arts design and architecture in Finland. Dr. Timo holds over two decades of experience in the field of research and development of web based learning. Dr. Timo conduct conducts research design and publishes in different forums. He has received a number of international awards from his research and design work. Thank you so much, Dr. Timo to join us. Now, let's meet our next expert, Ms. Charlene master Teresa, who is a UAE coding ambassador, the school innovation leader and a tech educator. She is a metaverse headmaster winner and an AI enthusiast. Now, let me introduce you to our next panelist who is mentoring students in giving shape to their ideas, using scientific principles and incorporating emerging technology wherever needed. Mr. Yvonne Dorje Lapcha, vice principal and stem head at Paljore Namgel Girls School. Then, I would like you to meet Ms. Annie Kumar, who is the HOD CSC at Vikas Public School National ICT awardee. In 2019, she is a passionate adobe creative and AI educator. Last but not the least, our very own Mr. Pankaj Kumar Verma, one of the co-founders who envisioned the field of robotics and AI in the form of Koerke and Victor Blox and a chief technical officer at Stempedia. A hearty welcome to all of you and a huge thank you for grossing this event with your presence. Thank you, Shruti and thank you to all the panelists for coming for this discussion and for this talk. Thank you so much. Thank you to all the panelists, to all our experts. Moving further, I would like to request Dr. Teemu to share his keynote address on Finland coding AI and robotics past, present, future. Over to you, Dr. Teemu. Thank you, Shruti and thank you, Pankaj, for the invitation. It's a great honor to have the opportunity to work with you people. I'm very pleased about the opportunity to work with the Stempedia and our collaboration looks like very promising in the coming months and coming years. Maybe I could start, I don't know, I'm a professor, so five minutes sounds like a really short time for me when you let a professor to talk. They keep on talking and talking, but I try to keep it brief. Maybe starting just three things which you can't find with the internet search about me, three facts. I was born in a small town in Finland called Nokia, which is better known from something else than being a small town in Finland. Another fact I grow up in Dar es Salaam in Tanzania, where my father used to work and the third fact you can't find by searching. I'm a father of two girls and very happy to be a father and helping them to go forward in their life. But then to the topic today, I thought to talk a bit of how the goading AI and robotics is approach or been approached in Finland in the last 10, 15 years. Of course, the goading being the thing, but more and more we discuss about the AI and robotics being almost like a way of getting into the goading and AI to have hands-on activities by children building things. But you know the past is a known, the present is uncertain and the future is unknown. And I will go through very briefly where we are at the moment and probably not getting to the future that much at all. But I understand that Finland is a small country, so I also want to tell very quick, give you a very quick lesson to the history of Finland. And I think you can remember if you remember 711, you get the whole picture of the history of Finland. We used to be part of the Swedish Empire for 700 years. We were about 100 years, autonomic part of the Russian Empire under the Tsar, and we've been about 100 years now independent. And you can see this development in the Finnish society quite a lot. There's a lot of influence of the Swedish way of approaching the world, but we have a certain Slavic mentality as well. And as an independent country, what is maybe the most or one thing which we are known is the gender equality. 60% of the university students are female and we have in the parliament 50% of the members of parliament are female. And it looks like the country is run these days by women, which is great. So similar way, the education in Finland in very big picture, you could say that the University of Helsinki was found during the Swedish era. Complosary school was part of the national movement when the idea of us being an independent country came to the picture. And then the comprehensive school is from the 1970s, which is still pretty much more or less the same. We have a public school system, which is compulsory for all the children in Finland. So the uncertain present, I picked up just the educational system picture from Finland and maybe few unique things, if compared internationally, is that we don't have dead ends at all. So regardless which path you take, you go to the vocational education or you go to the university education, there's always a way to continue in a higher level. Also, the certificates you get are unified in a such a way that you can continue with your studies. That line in there is the line which is the compulsory school. So everybody will have 12 years now education from the basic education to the so-called upper secondary school or then the last three years in the vocational education. What is also quite unique is that we don't have national exams, except in the very end of the 12 years. And then we must do the selection to the two different paths, which are not dead ends, but selection is done. And that's the only point when we do national exams, which is this articulation examination. The curriculum is renewed nationally every 15, 20 years and the latest one, which came in power 2016, started quite strongly from the developing of the school culture. And those are the values or the basis what we try to build every single school in Finland. There's the well-being and safety in daily life, interaction and lifestyle, working approach, cultural diversity and language awareness, participation and democratic action, equity and equality, environmental responsibility and sustainable future orientation. So these are the guidelines for every single school in Finland. They should bring the learning community, the school culture. If we go then more to the unique aspects of the Finnish curriculum, we have something we call transversal competencies. We look for knowledge and skills, attitudes and values in here. We do have school subjects, which are under there, but then we have these competencies or skills, what are integrated through all the subjects. And now we got to the interest of the going AI and robotics, which been developed that if you start to look those skills or competencies, you can actually find out that there's the ICT competencies. There's the multi literacy, which is super, super important media literacy able to read the messages, even able to understand the algorithms, how do they operate in the modern world. Also thinking and learning to learn working life competencies and entrepreneurship, participation, involvement and building a sustainable future and cultural competencies, interaction and self expression, which you can do with going AI and robotics. And this seems to be super interesting that all these transversal competencies can be developed with the tools and working with going AI and robotics. This has been taking off quite well in the Finnish schools. And the idea is that it's not its own subject, it's something which is practiced in number of subjects and doing projects together on integrating different subjects into the projects in the school environment. The meeting is here and and and turn over for the next speaker. Thank you for listening. Thank you, thank you very much for enlightening us with your address Dr. T move that was really thought thought provoking and gives us an amazing perspective on Finland coding AI and robotics past present future. Thank you very much. Thank you for all our very own Mr. Pankaj for sharing his insights on enhancing classrooms with AI coding and robotics to address our schools, educators and the students over to you, Mr. Pankaj. Thank you, Shruti. And thank you Dr. T move for providing a very useful insight about the Finnish curriculum. And like we take Finnish curriculum as one of the. Like I would say successful pilots of changing the curriculum according to the new age requirement as well. So so that's that was very insightful from that perspective as well. So I would take some time and talk about the importance of skill education, especially in coding and robotics, because coding and robotics is still very early in a very early stage in the school education as well. So I would acknowledge that we are being surrounded by AI now. So, so just to take your example like we can see when we are using the Google Maps to go to a location, it uses its AI capabilities to tell us the shortest route. You would have observed that it also tell us if there is any roadblock or is there any real time obstruction that that are there on the route and it make you informed about those as well. This is a very powerful example to show you how AI enabled technology is actually impacting our life. Similarly, AI can be seen in other application as well like face recognition on your smartphone or even the recommendation system on your shopping app or even YouTube. And just for the fun like you would have seen that we have even turned a speaker into a smart device, which we call us at Alexa. And it actually enhances the way we play a song or even ask a question in the internet as well. Next slide please. So, by 2030, like AI is projected to have a worldwide 15.7 trillion dollars in economic value, which is massive and it will actually lead to a lot of jobs and opportunities in the field of technology. AI is going to have a very big potential in order to revolutionize how people interact with technology, automate their Monday task and improve decision making approach as well. So you can relate to this with chat JTP actually. So it has like enabled users to communicate with machines making it easier for people to ask for help or even get information from the computer as well. And for the fun fact like chat JTP has also like crossed one million users within five days of its launch. And this is just the big name and the kind of approach or the kind of impact is going to have on all of our life is very massive and we have to actually prepare our skits for the future as well. So that is that is where like it becomes important that we take actions for in order to make the students ready for the future where AI coding and even the robotics is going to be a very important factors in their life. So just to talk about just to talk about few like why these are the things which get essential for the students so by learning this technology students actually develop essential 21st century skills like coding like creative thinking problem solving and innovation. Students also get exposure to coding with fun and engaging methods and as we all of as we all know coding is actually one of the very important building block of AI and robotics so if you don't know coding you like it's very hard to build any AI or robotics application as well. And as per World Economic Forum is going to create up to 58 million jobs in the next 10 years, which will be like a massive opportunity for the young people. So now talking about how coding and robotics is getting into the school education. So I would just take the example of India and like in India now the coding and robotics is now being introduced into the school curriculum by various boards and government bodies as well. In India we have the national education policy 2020 coming and the effect of national education policy has been like CBSE and ICSE boards which are massive in India have introduced coding and robotics as skill subject from class six to tell. So now the initiative is going from government to the school education as well. And the whole objective is to make technology learning more hands on rather than the traditional road learning. So just to give you an example, if I want to make a student learn about face detection. So we cannot teach them the face detection with theory part of like just where theory we have to make the students create a face filter or create a face emotion detector or some projects so that they are able to understand and do the projects as well. So that's the approach we are like we should take in implementation of the skill subjects and this subjects also encourages logical thinking innovation while teaching important life skills like communication cooperation teamwork and resilience as well. And this is actually a very great thing like I remember when I was in school in Kendra with Dallas, which is the government schools in India so so we had a very little exposure to these opportunities. Even at IT Kanpur I have seen many of my peers getting scared of working with code only because they have created a very big entry barrier for them. And using coding and robotics in school curriculum would would provide the much needed exposure to the students and make the entry barrier small for them as well. But there are a lot of challenges to implement this technology education in school environment, which we will be addressing during the discussions with our panelists as well. So that's all from my side, Shruti you can take it over. Thank you so much for sharing your insights you have already set the context behind this webinar with your thoughts and your thoughts and approach I would definitely believe that this will cater to our educators and students in the area of AI coding and robotics. So moving towards the most awaited segment of this webinar, our panelists discussion on enhancing classrooms with coding AI and robotics for which all our audience were waiting from so long. We have a lot of questions on YouTube as we promised that we will take all the questions from all the participants at last. So we'll take them, Shruti, but until then you can post your comment post your queries or in the comment section on YouTube we'll take all the questions at last of this webinar. So to start with, I would like to ask my first question to Ms. Charlie. Ms. Charlie, why is it crucial for the students to learn and explore technologies like AI coding and robotics from a young age. Hi, thank you for that. Great question. As what actually Mr. Pankaj have highlighted right so why it's important to learn this at a young age, it's because if you go in the future of job market is going to be in the digital aspect right so if you will be only learning that. Like when you go to your bachelors or at a certain level, your foundation of these languages will not be as good as when you learned it when you are young it's like it's like reading coding is like reading and writing right so and it's like the in the next in 2030 only it's going to create or add 15.7 trillion in the global economy and one important thing also about coding AI and robotics is how it teaches you computational thinking, which is really very important because you learn that in algorithm and logic also and this thinking is very important when we solve real real world problems and that's how that's how it is we are here to solve real world problems so if you are having this thinking pattern at a young age it will be built into you and it will be easier for you to navigate in your in your in your careers in the future and as we move forward in this digital age. So yeah. Very well said miss Charlie ma'am. So yeah, the foundation learning is literally very important and I think our young minds get this just that yes, this coding AI and robotics learning is very important at the foundation stage. I would request Mr. even sir, you would like to add anything to it, whatever the Charlie ma'am shared. This is pretty much ma'am has told why it is very necessary. One thing I would like to add to is at a young age, the students must be at least given the exposure, and then along with the tech education. They are exposed to many other co curricular activities so because if we do not give them the exposure they will never have the choice. And later on in life if they suddenly realize that. Oh, I love this thing. Then it would be too late for them to catch up with others who have already got some basic skills. That's why early exposure is very, very crucial. And I think I believe that young minds are catchy in comparison to the, you know, older minds. So, so yeah, of course, the concepts grasping thing is literally quite larger in comparison to the youth. So yes, so any ma'am my next question is to you as you are very much known with the CBSC and ICSC curriculum, and you're very familiar with it. So as any be 2020 and educational boards like CBSC and ICSC and many others are focusing on AI coding and robotics like tech education related subjects. Can school introduce these subjects in their school curriculum? Any thoughts on this ma'am? Thanks for this question actually being a HOD in my school and it is like it is likely said that we always think that cast them hold when they are young it is like we need to if we want some result to to get in the future it is probably that we need to start when they are too young. So it's a very good practice if you're going to start it in the by interming into the curriculum. Now if we are using it, if we start the like in the form of clubs if you're starting like robotics club coding club if you start in the school. And that can also help the students to get this knowledge of robotics and AI. And further, if it is possible that it can be integrated into the curriculum, because in India we have in CBSC board we have subjects already allocated schools can do with that those tools and take up those subjects for teaching. And one thing is that teachers could be trained for teaching these subjects because when we were young there was no such subjects like AI and all we need to be trained all teachers need to be trained like workshops could be conducted expert panels could be called experts from the industry they could be called for integrating with the students and field trips could be could be conducted in the school so that they can directly visit the industry where actually robotics and AI how it is helping to develop the products and how it is actually being used. If in real sense they're able to see it then it actually helps to tinker those ideas and just foster the creativity in the kids. So I feel if and also one more thing is, if you want to teach anything not like a subject as a tool, then it should be integrated with other subjects also. Like for example, if suppose science needs to be taught and if the children are going to develop some robot that is that works on the principle of some organ then but naturally those science teachers can use the robotics for teaching this robotics now it is like integrating if these things can be integrated in other subjects not only in computer science, then it would actually help the students to work for the future and solve the real world problems. Absolutely. Totally aligning with your thoughts, ma'am. Thank you so much for sharing it. So we are getting a lot of questions on YouTube. We'll take all the questions at the last of the session as we promised. I request all our audience to share your feedback meanwhile. Dr. Teemu, I would like to know your thoughts also on the same how Finland education is integrating these curricula. Thank you. I agree with everything what's been said except that in the Finnish educational thinking, we don't really and of course we do but our starting point is not the work life or the work skills. We want to emphasize of becoming humans and responsible citizens and that doesn't mean that the AI or the algorithms would not be important in that actually they are just as important as literacy. That to be a responsible and a good citizen, you must understand these topics as well. What is the AI doing for our social life? What is it doing for politics? What is it doing for democracy? What are the risks and challenges related to human rights and good life for all? And those topics are super important. The Finnish way is that we've been trying to integrate these and try and are working on that to all the study subjects. It can be integrated even to the sports. And with this approach of more societal approach, I think it's also a bit of like as a small nation, you must be self sustainable in many ways. We can't rely on others than ourselves. So similar way as we teach handicraft for people able to make their own clothes, which we actually teach in the primary schools, goading is important that we can do our own computer systems and our own AI. And then we don't rely on others in that as a nation. And that is like the backbone of having a fair and justice and equality in the society. So I think we are actually talking super super important topic from the broad societal point of view to bring AI and goading and robotics to every school for every student. And I fully agree that the teacher training is there to key to make it happening. Of course, of course. Thank you so much, Dr. for sharing your thoughts. And of course, this is the backbone. This is as similar as the literacy, whatever you said. So yeah, you have correctly mentioned it. And I hope our audience will also get a just from it. My next question is to Mr. Rewan, what are the primary challenges faced by these schools in implementing these skills AI coding and robotics in their curriculum, and how to overcome these challenges. There are many to say, I think the most important of them all is the mindset and the inertia of of will of of trying to do things in the traditional way. So we must come out of this inertia to begin with, and we must accept that the education is not not just changing it has changed. And the schools institutions, teachers, parents, they must come out of their traditional thought, the traditional pathway of learning, and then they must adopt to this change. And that's I think the number one challenge we we should create enough awareness to do all the stakeholders, and then make them aware that things have changed. And if we continue doing things in the traditional way, we might be lagging lagging behind, not as a school but but as a as as a country. And also the other challenges lack of experts, especially if you want to really introduce these subjects as as a main subject where the students are seriously thinking about developing a career in these fields. I think we need good teachers trained teachers, and also enthusiastic teachers willing to adopt this change and willing to acquire the skills by themselves. Thirdly, I think the infrastructure. Personally, I have faced this problem that to be beginning is to begin the topics is not a challenge. And then as we start developing on these topics, we, we try to dive deep we want to build serious projects. Then one problem is not enough laptops and many students, not being able to adopt laptops. As a matter of fact, I think in my school, hardly 15% of the students have their own personal laptops. So, so I don't know how we will overcome this problem but we need enough computing systems in our schools. Also, if we want to introduce like a high end technologies like XR AR VR. Then again, the whole computing lab computer labs must be revamped because traditional PCs may not be sufficient. So, these are the three in my opinion, the mindset and the lack of experts and enough laptops must be there I think these are the existing challenges. Very well highlighted mystery one, all the challenges because they are literally existing from so long back until now, and it will take time to you know, convert these challenges into strength, but yes, we'll go, we'll definitely reach to that level. Sorry to interrupt. What I have done is, I have acquired some older PCs, old laptops which do not support Windows 11 and Windows 10, and I have rather installed Linux systems over there. So that is one way in which I am overcoming this lack of laptop problems. Thank you, Ivan, to raise up the infrastructure. It's super important. And I can't help to tell that Linux comes from Finland. And also to mention that Android phones are actually Linux devices and that has made a big change. And I really appreciate also what the STEMpedia is doing that they solutions work with the Android phones. And of course there's also the network connectivity is then needed. So, so the mobile infrastructure is needed, needed to cover the schools and the children as well. But I think the prices of the Android phones or the tablets is going down and they actually are very powerful computers these days. There's a lot of hope in that too. And, and, and bring your own device is a good approach for schools to rely partly on the families and, and the children own devices. Thank you so much, Dr. Timu. We as a STEMpedia really obliged to have the feedback from you. Mr. Pankaj, you would like to add anything to it. I think most of the points were already added by Ivan Sir and Dr. Timu as well. I would just really like to appreciate like we have been knowing you answer for more than four years now. And, like, the, the PNG school was like they took an initiative which was very powerful. So, in order to introduce coding as a full fledged like as taking that initiative into the school they have like taught each and every teacher on how to do the basics of coding programming and those parts. So, so that has been very greatly executed as well. And, and that was an initiative that was taken more than like pre pandemic so so that was to like very early, even I think before the natural education policy came as well. I think it was also in the winter, January. Yes, yes. And so, just to add a few, like one of the major concerns that comes is the computational device that was rightly pointed out. So, so one of the challenges so like in order to solve this challenge what we were, like what we as as Tempedia are doing is more working towards more how the come for students getting the access of smartphone is very easy. So we are targeting that if the basic literacy on coding and AI is something if they can be taught on the smartphone, then it would be very much accessible for the students to at least start off their journey into coding and robotics, lowering the entry barrier for the school for the students. One of the biggest thing that we have seen is while working, like when you start implementing a curriculum on on on these topics in the schools, students tend to take these topics to the home and then try to tinker on their own ideas on on their own projects as well. So, having a device or like having a application which which basically is the process of making projects at home on the smartphone devices is something we have been working on we have been doing the work with a few government bodies as well like implemented this for the government and for go a government as well and it has impacted a lot of students so so so that's the thing that we have been working on. There is one other very important aspect of the challenge that we get that that we are seeing right now is more from the policy making point of view so So, the biggest challenge that we have seen is like the curriculum which has been implemented or the like introduced by the by the the CBSE, especially on AI is more biased or like I would say more more having more things towards the theory part of it. And the practical part is something which is like bit of lagging which basically essentially what happens is the students are not being able to make projects a lot. And so, once the topic gets over the concepts get over they, they like tend to forget all those learnings that they have done on the AI subject so so having a lot of practical activities where the students can do like make their own projects in phase detection or those things is something very important and having this approach going from like coming from the teachers giving them, giving the student exposure is also something which is very much appreciated in order to have this wholesome learning for the students. So those are few points from my side regarding this discussion. Thank you. Thank you so much, Pankaj for sharing your insights. Of course, there are challenges but we always come up with a solution and that's that's the productive mindset, which we all have here. So, Dr. Teemu is having some prior engagement so before he leaves, I would like to ask one more question to you sir. So, what are the roles of the teachers play in developing the AI ecosystem at the schools, and are they really equipped to handle it effectively, or if not, then how can we empower educators. Thank you. It is even in a small country like Finland, it is a big job, especially with the in-service training. What we do a lot, I could point out few things coming from Finland, there is the elements of AI, which is like a national programme. If you search elements of AI, it's a MOOC targeted for citizens in general and of course the teachers as they want to be in understanding the world and the future being taking that MOOC a lot. We've been also organising in-service teacher training in general for all the teachers and trying to introduce in all the different school levels and what the teachers have been doing in this in-service training. We've been thinking that how do they integrate the goading into their subjects. So, we've been giving them the power to do the kind of lesson planning themselves, not saying that this is the way to teach. These are the tools and these are the ways you can, more like teaching the tool and then saying that come up with your projects, what you can do with your children in your own classroom. And that's a very finished way of approaching that we don't top down, give lesson plans, we give the tools and support for teachers to implement their own way in their own classroom. It is a huge challenge. Of course also pre-training is super important that all the teacher training colleges are updated on this. And of course our students are very active to request that too from the professors in teacher training, but it takes time and a lot of effort and a lot of resources. But I think it actually takes more human resources than money. It requires that there's a movement where people see the value and want to do it for the future of the children. So, yeah, it is a big challenge, but it should be universal and reads every teacher in the world if you ask from me. And you believe that it does require the dedication from our educators as well to be consistent to learn these curriculum and integrate these curriculum in their teaching pattern. Yeah, I kind of believe also movements and I'm not that old, but I have read about the movement of literacy projects and it was like a national or even global movement understanding the importance of literacy. So everybody should be able to read and write. And that's super, super, if we get that spirit globally that now everybody should have ability and a basic understanding on these topics. I guess we can do it, but it requires more like a spirit than top-down curriculums for the teachers. Totally aligning with your thoughts, Dr. Teemu. So Anima, you would like to add anything in respect to the India curriculum and the curriculum scenario. Yes, here also teachers are actually the crucial part of any educational ecosystems, so it is very important to empower the teacher. One procedure that we have applied in our school and even I we have seen that what is actually beneficial for all the teachers. We are having a community of practice now if suppose all AI teachers or all IT teachers or all other teachers also we form a community of practice where teachers from other schools they collaborate and see if our children also peer learning is actually a very good way of learning. So we as a layman if we are going to learn something so we can become, we can very easily teach someone else who is also at the same level. So we know, we know exactly what is the best way to learn that topic and how to use it in the experimentally. So this is something that we have tried and it had worked a lot like group teaching or group learning. This thing we have tried, if there are four teachers they have got different expertise and they together collaborate and they teach the students so that they are able to create something finally and experimentally everyone is going to practice it, do it. So I actually I just like to rank all of you also because Tempedia has provided an element sort of thing where the layman could very easily learn. So it has actually from the scratch all the videos and the tutorials are so beautiful that it is like a hand holding you are giving and the teachers so that they are very easily they are developing the projects and helping their students to develop the project. It is an amazing task and I know it is very difficult to make those videos and how much of time and labor you have done to develop those projects and it is really it works. It really worked, it has worked and it has done to empower all the teachers. It's really honored to hear all this from you Miss Adibam, Charlene mom would like to add something. Yes, so before I apologize. I must go now I have another commitment for today. Thank you. Thank you so much. Professor before you leave Dr. Timo before you I would like to let you know that I have finished that elements of AI course along with my students. I have bought a very good fundamental platform to start their AI journey through this course. And then I would also like to request should be if you could give the information about this course to our viewers. It's a highly well structured course and anyone wants to start with your AI journey. This is the decourse to start with. Thank you Professor and thank you. Thank you. Happy to hear that. And I'm sure we will be in touch. Bye. Thank you so much. Thank you so much Dr. Timo. Yeah, Miss Charlene mom you would like you were adding something to it. I really like how Miss Annie have mentioned about the integration of this and changing the these emerging technologies in the curriculum. And I would just like to add more than the subject experts like their role in these technologies is like the teachers or educators in general. I think the main role that we educators have to like advocate to our students is the responsible use of these technologies and its ethical implications in the education and in the overall field in many aspects and because if we have this consistency among educators like everyone is very consistent with how I know how there's a huge conversation about chat GPT and the students using it. In the assessment right so there's a huge conversation on that so yeah in general as educators I think our role is to advocate the responsible use of these technologies so that's the point that I would just like to add. Of course, of course, so I think our educators who have joined us on YouTube, get that, got the gist from the sparring words which you have said, and we are getting a lot of questions again and again that. When, when will you, when will be answering their queries and where they supposed to give the feedback so feedback link is already there, you can share your feedback with us, and we'll take your queries within half an hour or so. I would like to ask my next question to Mr Pankaj. What are the educational tools and technologies that are that can be used by the teachers to teach these concepts in a fun and engaging way, if you could share your thoughts with. So, going through the questions like I would just divided into how the technology has come down in the recent time so so I think all of this was revolutionized first with like in the initial stage it was more towards how the students can learn coding with CC++ that was the norm and then later on when the Python came it disrupted the whole thing in order to like create AI machine learning you have to learn about Python. So that become the basic like I would say element in order to learn about the basics of Python as well. And then now coming towards CBSE and I would say CBSE ICSE and all of most of the boards are using Python as a base language to teach students the basics of coding and AI as well. So one of the biggest important thing is key thing is in order to teach coding at the higher grade, talking about going from class nine to 12 and sometimes in class seventh and eight. Python is going to be something which is going to be very critical and this is something which which to teachers can take up and introduce it to the students. What we have done is we so there are a lot of open I would say open and free software that teachers can use in order to teach it. So there is Python there is others application as well what we have done is we have added it into Picto blocks as well. So now in Picto blocks. The students can also like make their own Python program and even one of the biggest achievement that we have done is they can even program their robots with Python coding, which actually enables, I would say one, I would say, enables students to use the Python learning in order to like create the project in the robotics as well. So this this is because we wanted to solve a problem that there are other open source hardware as well like Arduino. But what happens is, Arduino is now more like in the recent time they have introduced Python but previously it was more towards CC++ programming that they have to do. Learning multiple language at the initial stages, I would say increases the entry barrier so so so I would ask the teachers if they focus on Python for higher gates, that would be the right language to start off with. And for the lower grades I would say from like starting from class six to eight or even going further down from class three to five what we have seen is block based coding which was first introduced by MIT Media Lab with scratch. That's that's that has now become, I would say, kind of a norm of learning programming how the students can learn programming with it. The good thing is what we have. So what we have done is, we have, like we already had block based coding within the Picto blocks environment. What we have done is with Picto blocks we have made it available on available on smartphone. So now the students can basically use their like Picto blocks in the smartphone and learn how to do things on AI or even IoT. And now we are also adding a lot more things into it as well like physics simulations and those and we would be soon starting to add AR and VR based applications within the Picto blocks platform as well. So that are the things which comes as an add on that we provide to the students but like as a as a as a whole for the early age student block coding works very well and you can use scratch you can use Picto blocks you can use other platforms as well which provides different like focusing on different things. There is like in when it comes to the robotics part of it. So, from my perspective, how we solve the problem of learning robotics at early stages. When the students are learning about robotics, we should not challenge them with multiple things at the same time so make the assembly part make the electronics part know about electronics know about programming know about all the things at the same time because it becomes challenging for them. We suggest you to take it from step by step process and we'll show you some robot devices that we have developed at Stempedia but like when you start teaching this to the students you have to take it step by step so while choosing the platform you should be very I would say conscious in terms of how do you want to introduce it to the students whether the robotics is being used as a tool to teach coding which can be done as well in order to make it more interactive or robotics is being used in order to teach assembly electronics more of those parts so so so that's a conscious decision that the schools should take when they introduce it as well. So, so that's from my side. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Pankaj for sharing this, I would totally like I totally believe that the sorted platform is something which is very much required for our educators and for our students. And our picture blogs the curriculum of the LMS gives that particular, you know, the approach for our educators and students to learn the concepts to learn AI coaching and robotics in a very effective and easy learning pattern. So everything isn't just a one plate and just people has to eat it. So, in a very desired pattern. So thank you so much, Pankaj. I would like to request this charting if you would like to share anything to it. Yeah, I really agree with Mr. Pankaj about pictor blocks because you can say I'm a huge or top fund fan of that I've been advocating to educators on using this because it literally covers the hardware element of this learning and the software right so if you if you want to learn about robotics, it the extensions are like you could use it with Lego with Arduino's micro bit and all these other things in software coding, whether it's block base or Python it would actually cover just one day I would add for educators to use, especially in the higher grades is which we have been using since I think 2019 is the IBM open P tech. It's free for educators and they will actually give to learn different like topics in computer science like AI machine learning, like the Python programming and so on. It's good for teachers and the students because they they'll get to be certified as well and the hands on activities are there also and there's a new like curriculum or resource that just came which is the AI for K 12. Somehow it's it's in partnership with me on the huge Saudi project. So and it's funded by the Carnegie Mellon. It actually focuses on K to 12. So if we're talking about K to 12. So all the and it's pan disciplinary it's not just focusing on tech itself but on different English language music arsenal so it's the curriculum is from K to 12 so educators can check that as well. And it is really helpful, especially for those who are not subject experts because the implementation would be and preparation would be easier for the educators. Thank you. Thank you so much miss Charlie. Actually, I was just going through with the YouTube comments what people has posted there and as a part of the stampede team, I'm full with the emotions that after seeing that how people are, you know, literally enjoying our picture with Victor blogs and quirky in their daily routine and they are literally learning these concepts in a very easy pattern. Thank you so much for all the people to give these kind of examples from your daily life. And we would definitely answer your all the queries please have a patience with an up and I for sure. My last question I would like to ask to Mr even. So my question is, can I replace the human teachers and how safe is the use of AI in the classroom. I mean, can I replace human teachers are I don't think so. Because, because AI of today is, I could say it's, it hasn't reached to a to a level where it could replace the human values, the concern that the teacher can have for a child. and care that that plays a dynamic role in in in learning process so it's not just about delivery of information or content. The learning process is actually a human process and AI as of today hasn't reached to that level. So my personal view is teachers. The, the risk is there, but then, but then for now be assured that you're not going to be replaced, but then don't be so much assured that you lag behind so we need to constantly update and up skill ourselves. And then the other concern is whether AI is like going to take over the world or something like that. And the answer is no, because, because if we could accept industrial revolution if we could accept machines if we could accept the internet. If we could accept the smartphones then we should very much be able to accept AI because it is just another revolution it is just another product that the human mind has come up with. And for the benefit of the society in general. So, if we are living with human intelligence, and more importantly, if we are living with human stupidity, then we should also be able to live with artificial intelligence, be assured that it is for the benefit of the society and for the world. AI is not going to replace the teachers as of now and it's not going to pose a threat to the human kind to the mankind. Thank you so much, thank you so much sir for sharing your insights. I would request to miss any ma'am to share your thoughts. Are you aligning with the same concepts which you answer has shared, or is there any, you know, different perspective at your. The teachers can never be replaced, not today, neither in future, because teachers not only are not a machine there, who are actually imparting knowledge, they have an emotional touch the pattern the back of the student cannot be given by AI. We as a teacher we are actually integrating the critical thinking the social emotional learning we take all the all the students as different and there is a different way to deal with each child that cannot be done even though whatever personalized things you get with AI, but that is something that is a human being, and that cannot be, we cannot get by AI but undoubtedly AI if it is not used sensibly, if AI is not taken care of sensibly, if the buyers in the human beings are not taken care of properly, this AI can do lots of problem can create lots of problem. So we need to think of the ways how we can use AI in a very efficient manner. We need some training teachers should be trained and they should know how efficiently they can use it in the classroom. When when calculator came mass teachers thought that everyone thought that now mass teachers are of no use. So, till now calculator is there and we as a teacher are there who are doing the calculation without using calculators. Similarly AI would be there it would be we are getting now generative AI, lots of jobs are going to go away from the market but we now need prompt us who are going to give the those prompts to generate the AI. So it is like we as a human being that cannot that feeling cannot be taken up by any machine. Even our audience, our educators who have joined us on YouTube are aligning with your thought and you may be one sir. Thank you so much for sharing of course nobody like nobody can replace teachers, never ever educators are the essential part I would say as the literacy is the essential part to you know, be, be a sensible human being. So yes, the educators are the essential part AI cannot replace the educators not at all. Anything Charlie ma'am or Pankaj sir you would like to add or shall we move ahead. I just want to add some something so so what have learned from from the past few few years that I have been so AI can be a great tool to basically assist teachers in order to maybe plan how plan or get the information about the students in a right because there is a lot of data that AI can process and maybe get a get a report which is something which comes for from the from more of a perspective of I would say analytical approach. But, as rightly said, for students it's very important that the physical touch or physical, like presence, or I would more, more importantly say emotional connection has to be maintained in order to get the things being delivered or being taught for the students. So, so that's the thing which is very, very far away from it. But definitely, I would like teachers to actually explore the AI tools and use it in their learning to to, I would say, to get better at this teaching process or to to get adapted, adopt, like adopt this technology and get into this whole technological word as well. So, so that's the thing which can be like taken. Thank you. Thank you so much, Pankaj. So, you would like to add anything or shall we move ahead. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Oh, like, thank you so much, experts. People are also thanking you for sharing your insights. So that was a literally eye opening panelist discussion we had. And I must say that it will definitely motivate our educators and the students who have joined us today. So now it's time to see how Stempedia is helping schools to develop an AI and robotics learning ecosystem with fun and engaging learning activities. So I would like to invite my friend, Mr. Suraj to share about it. That state is yours. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, you are clearly audible. You just have to bit louder. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to represent Stempedia's ecosystem. Dear educators, we at Stempedia have developed an ecosystem that inspires, empowers students worldwide to become a life-long learners. And it was by providing accessible and engaging educational resources and tools that fosters creativity, critical thinking and problems on these things. Our unique ecosystem consists of an AI and robotics lab for these schools. Now it has structured curriculum along with this coding and AI platform that is pictogram. Students can learn hands-on activity on coding and AI using the quality kits. Teachers are obscured to teach students through a teacher-reading program. There is a learning and assessment system which helps to monitor and determine the impact. And at last, students will have opportunity to showcase their talents to international competitions and innovation festivals. Here are some glimpse of the students interacting in AI and robotics lab. You can see the students learning AI and robotics tools using the quality kits. So we are running this AI and robotics lab program in more than 400 schools across the globe. And still we are counting. To run the lab successfully, we provide this comprehensive curriculum for students from classes 3 to classes 12. And it is aligned with the national new education policy 2020 in India. This curriculum is divided into three different skills level, preparatory for classes 3 to 5, then intermediate for classes 5 to 8, and then advanced for classes 9 to 12. For preparatory classes, the curriculum mainly focuses on, you know, play the story activity-based where students will be learning about games, animations, story building, and just a basic part of AI and ML activities as well. In intermediate classes, students dwell into coding, robotics, then AI, automation, industry level, automation, then aligning. And all these things are aligned with CBSD and ICS standards. In advanced classes, that is for class 9 to 12, it is completely on the Python programming. So whatever they have learned in the intermediate level, so those things are integrated in text-based coding, Python, where they will be learning about computer visions, then natural language processing like Alexa, then design thinking, tinkering, and much more. So this is not the only thing. For the hands-on learning experience, we have this digital learning content. And along with it, we have this practically activity books as well. Next, we have Pictoblux, Pictoblux software, I guess, many of you are familiar with the same. It is a coding and AI learning platform that is an integral part of our ecosystem. Now Pictoblux is one of the winners of GESS Education Award in Dubai. Now using Pictoblux, students can learn about the block-based coding, they can do the Python programming, they can make the interactive games, program robots, AI and ML activities. Also, there is IoT that is internet of things and much more. Now, what is the brain behind this AI and robotics lab? Our AI companion, Quarky, that helps learning new technologies in an engaging and playful way. Quarky is an ideal for students and the beginners and it provides a hassle-free coding. We have a program, we did the smart phone, even on the tab. In short, it is a one-kit with infinite creation, seamless AI and ML integration with the Pictoblux. Using this Quarky, students can explore more physical computing robots, sensor, AI, ML activities, and yes, they can make the industry-level projects like sub-driving cars, pick-and-place robot, IoT house, gardening system, and there is no limit. So, one of the major deliverables of this AI and robotic ecosystem is a complete hand-holding to the teachers to our teacher training program. There is an up-skilling program for up-skilling of existing computer science teachers, STEM faculty, and the school IT staff so that they can deliver AI and robotic education to the students. The teachers get the certification for the same. They will have access to the teaching resources, the lesson plans, activity sheets, and obviously, there will be assignments. Yes, along with that, there will be solid work sheets as well. So, at STEMperia, we have this learning management solution system where the student can learn the class-wise curriculum and teachers can monitor as well as the system. Here, we regularly hold these refresher training sessions for the school's teacher implementations who implements our curriculum. And this session helps to master this each time and to get their doubts related to biology, pictor blocks, even the curriculum will be clear to this STEMperia's exploit. Every year, we host this code-able competition, the biggest coding and AI competition, which gives a platform for students to focus their talent and compete on an international level. I hope you got the better insight of STEMperia's AI and robotic lab ecosystem. Let's watch this short video to have a quick recap. Today, technology has immersed into every aspect of our lives. This makes coding, AI, and robotics necessary 21st-century skillset for kids. Schools must act as change-makers to mold these young innovators into future leaders, introducing the Artificial Intelligence and Robotics Lab, developed by IIT alumni, a one-stop destination for all your needs to impart the best coding, AI, and robotics education. We set up all new AI and robotics lab or a pretty or existing computer lab to incorporate coding, AI, and robotics as part of the curriculum. Our classes 3-12 align with national education policy and following various education boards with books and an all-inclusive learning management system to monitor students' progress. Our coding and AI platform, pictor blocks works on block-based and Python coding to empower students to program robots and AI projects with machine learning and ARVR environment. Quarky robots and DIY kids encourage kids to think creatively and make real-life application-based projects. To make the students' learning journey successful, we upscale educators through on-site teacher development program and year-long hand-holding for efficient operations. Our lab provides endless opportunities on cutting-edge technologies like self-driving cars, home and industry automation, face detection, and many cool concepts. It is about saving the environment. The new education policy stresses upon the importance of learning 4D and other technologies. I think that is very much needed to shape the future. We are empowering hundreds of schools across the globe, as rightly said by Mario Montessori. Free the child's potential and you will transform him into the world. Let me show you the demonstration of our AI lab activities. Vivek, can you go and start sharing this? Yes, thank you. I hope my screen is visible to you. Yeah, it's visible. Okay, so I guess everyone is aware about the Tesla car. But what makes those cars, you know, like, you know, they will be running on their own? How does it work? So with this picture block software and the Kauaki hardware, students are able to make their own self-driving car. Now here on the right-hand side, the left-hand side, you can see the picture blocks interface and this is the block-based coding code that has been made for this self-driving car. Now, when I just click on this, the camera will be popped up and all these things will be executing in the sequence and that is coding. Now, when I start this, you can see that the camera is getting popped up. Now, when there is a system that recognizes the sign and it will take decision according to it. Now, here's the box and when I show this go, so you can see the car is moving forward. When I just show this to go, it is going left. For the right, when I'm showing this, it is going right. So this AI, this self-driving car is taking decision based on the sign that has been on the road. Now, let me show you another example of AI. I guess everyone is familiar with the Instagram and the Snapchat filter. So Instagram and Snapchat filter uses the face features to determine each part's location. And this face expression detector uses the same feature of the face and it will detect the expression on your face. Now, you can see here is the code which is not in the block-based but it is a text-based coding. That is Python coding. Okay, so let me just run through this. The same type of things you will find it on the Instagram filters, which uses the same face features. So there are 200 plus face features that has been used by these applications. Now, you can see now there is no expression on my face. So it is showing neutral. When I smile, so it will say happy. You can say it is saying happy. When I'll be like, let's say surprised, it is saying surprised. So it is detecting these facial features and detecting what is the expression is on my face. So that is AI. So I guess such type of engaging activities, you know, a student can learn by using this AI and ML. Now, I guess there are so many questions. So without further ado, I would ask should we take over and take the questions from the audience. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much, Suresh, for sharing such an exciting ecosystem with us. We definitely have a gist that this is a child's best friend. And our educators definitely learned AI coding and robotics concepts in a fun and engaging learning way. I remember when I firstly used like firstly was familiar with this picture blocks and quirky. I remember that my first learning I was literally cheerful, not from outside from inside as well. So this picture blocks, quirky, you know, makes us happy in the terms of output makes each and every age group happy after seeing the output. And by doing the hands-on on the picture blocks and quirky. And even on YouTube people sharing either people sharing their experiences with the quirky and the picture blocks. And I'm very grateful to see all these comments on YouTube. And we have so many queries on YouTube and we had the query regarding the curriculum regarding the process. How is Tempedia is implementing the curriculum, the LMS and everything. So I hope all the people who is connected with us on YouTube got the gist from the presentation we just have shown by Mr. Pung, Mr. Suresh. So here's the time as we promised earlier. So here's the time to answer the queries from our audience who have joined us on YouTube and our panelists, our experts who have joined us today, they will answer your queries for sure. Meanwhile, I would request again to all the participants to please share your feedback with us. When you share your feedback with us, then only you will get the certificates from our end and we'll email the certificates to your email to your respective email ID for sure. So I'll take one by one questions from the YouTube. Let me open the comment section. Yeah. So one question I can highlight here is somebody asked most of the teachers at the school level are reluctant to adopt this change and understanding of AI. How to change that? Anyone, any ma'am you've answered and Charlie ma'am please give your answer to this. Please provide your insights. So any ma'am you would like to provide your insight. Yes, actually what happened that since it is a new subject everyone is a little scared and they feel that lots of knowledge and if we have a tie up with experts, industry experts and then that particular that fear of taking the subject and using it in the curriculum teaching both the teachers and students for both of them it would be easy. Even the teachers would be empowered and they can use the knowledge to teach the student and students can also get excited and they would also explore further because this is a subject that is something very new. So no one is expert in this in real sense everyone is now doing trying and testing is that right now we are not at that level of AI where everything we have achieved which is still it is at a very lower level. So, like everyone needs to explore research and do it so with the help of hand holding should be there with expert industry then all the people who have, who have attained some knowledge with them and then surely that fear of adapting the subject and using it and for the future it will be gone. I would like to add here. So reluctance is actually coming. Maybe it is coming from ignorance. So the first thing you do is you at least make a start. You start acquiring the fundamentals, then you decide whether you are going to really do it or not, because there's a caution. If you begin, I don't think you can end. It's a it's a wonderful and addictive journey. And then if you really want to make a start in pictor blocks and stamp idea learning elements is is the way to go for. Thank you. Thank you so much. I would like to add on one more thing. Generally what happens everyone thinks like Python is a very good language for starting with AI. But problem is that Python is like a core language or you are actually going to type the things and you get a result. But when you start with pictor block or everything is like colorful, you have like color coded things are there so it is very easy to adapt for junior kids and use it and develop projects. It is actually going to help and it is like a blog based programming is there which has integrated Python inside. So it is actually going to help the junior kids even to develop projects because of those color coded they don't need to remember all the keywords and all and color coding would surely help them to understand what they have to do for achieving a particular result. Thank you. Thank you mom. Thank you mom. It does tell your experience with the pictor blocks and what he has started one please add your point of views. Yeah. Yeah, so I totally agree with Sir Ivan and Miss Annie about having a team of this and it's really important we are in school level we have to identify champions in different fields like maybe in English math science to work with us in delivering or creating PD sessions for the teachers because as Sir Ivan have highlighted reluctance comes from ignorance or fear. And it's important that when we create or train teachers we have to create resources that is less intimidating because as educators we don't as educators in general we don't want to be like flashed with something and we will end up. All right, this is something that I'm not really familiar with, which is how stampede is doing that it's really really good that the way we learn this is in a less intimidating manner. That's why we love using the app and the resources that you have. And I just want to share like here in the UAE what we are trying to do in the ministry level, which is currently in progress is we are creating a program for teachers or for educators in training them to learn these emerging technologies not just in AI and robotics but more of like blockchain and AR, the metaverse, and so on. And it's important that you give them certificates because it adds up to their PD session credits so yeah that's just one thing that I could add along with the panelists. Thank you, thank you so much ma'am for sharing your views and it is definitely beneficial for us as well, because it does tell your experience with the picture blocks and for key. So it seems very interesting question and I would like to request Mr Pankaj to answer this particular query and then whoever want to answer is. So, can this be introduced so can this be introduced in the primary level so can coding supposed to be there so can coding be introduced and at the primary primary level. And is it possible to get the training for the arts teachers on coding. So, yeah, so because you would like to add. So, so that's that's a very interesting question because what we have like, we have been working with a lot of schools in the past year so what we have observed that in private schools. And I want to do get this thing started at a very early stage where it can be started in a lot of schools we have seen that it just starting from grade one, but like what we what we feel right now is starting it at at a very early We should be a little bit cautious about it. So grade one into is something where they are learning the basic language, mathematical skills and those parts as well. So what we do is we like, we have been developing curriculum from class three, because we feel that at that particular stage. There is a lot of interest that the students also start with, and then they can be a little creative and creative with that as well. So when we are focusing off focusing on implementing these programs at a primary stage, what we have seen is that the program should be fun. But then anything with this with the students on the theory part so there is, there should not be any theory part being taught to the students, it should be more towards the activity and the activity that they are learning or doing during the classes Just to give you example, I would not want the students to go through the theory of what the robot like how the robot is moving because of the voltage and those parts I just want them to experience it and make the robot move with some programming part of those things. So major focus should be on making the creativity level high for the students, giving them the exposure rather than focusing on a lot of the theory parts. The other thing is you have to ease down the things for the students. So one very strong philosophy that we take is we should design a program which is for the 90% of the students or sometimes 100% of the students rather than designing a program which is only for the 10% of the students to get successful. So, so when we are designing the program for 90% of the students, then it's become very important that you lower the entry barrier or get the students aligned through to the learning as well. So implementing it at the primary stage it would we recommend that you focus on more on the creative part with block coding and then later on if there are some outperformers they would be some outperformers encourage them to explore the things on their own and support them. So there are a lot of competition that happens so you can encourage them to participate in the competition, make their creativity at their creativity level and innovate and create projects as well. So that's the thing that you can do for the primary stages that we can do. Thank you so much, Pankash for sharing. So just to add to it, educators do have the fear that how they can learn these coding and AI robotics concepts by being the art teacher, arts teacher or English or Hindi teacher. So I would, I would likely to tell them that this these all concepts were difficult earlier, just because people has to you know understand the CEC++ kind of languages. But now this block coding, the this even the Python coding makes our life easier in terms of learning the coding concepts. So I totally believe that please, I totally request these educators that don't have that kind of fear that you can't learn these concepts, because this is the kind of future and this is the basic literacy as already Dr. who has mentioned earlier. So this is a basic literacy which one should kind of, you know, live with it. So anything else Annie ma'am, Charlie ma'am Ivansa you would like to add. Yeah, for for the very, very early stage children, I think one concern is the digital gadgets and the screen time exposure which we do not want. So, what I would suggest is if you really want to start, then you could introduce like logical thinking computational thinking concepts in in form of physical games. So we do have traditional games that the children are used to play, but then one could also develop certain games where the children could have logical and computational thinking concepts at the early stage. So just for example, maybe a flow chart drawn on the ground and the children jump over the flow charts, making decisions if else blocks. So if you really want to do it, we can do it that way. Otherwise, we would discourage the screens for the young children. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Ivan. So I would like to take one more question from the common section, which is the, which is to Mr. Pankaj again. So how to develop AR and VR in pictoblocks project. Yeah. So, so I would just add that pictoblocks have gone through a lot of phases. So initially it was like more towards controlling hardware. Then we added AI features into it then we added a lot of new hardware and the machine learning environment as well. So now we are also adding the AR and VR and then 3D animation or I would say simulation part into pictoblocks as well we have been developing for the last six months. And in that, we have made a lot of progress and like in some in a few months we would be releasing it as well. And one thing I want to share is we were also being part of the MetaXR challenge that was being created by MIT in India. So we were like we are one of the four winners of the XR challenge as well. So, so it's like it shows that the things that we are developing is something being recognized by the people and when we would be releasing it to the public for the use, we would be having a lot of feedback and great run as well. One of the important aspect that we have taken care in the XR or 3D XR VR part is that we have gone with our core philosophy which is we want the students to be the creator of the technology rather than just the passive user. So even in the machine learning or the AI part, they are making their own projects in order to learn the technology rather than just experiencing the phase detection or those things. So even in the XR or even the AR VR or the 3D environment, the students would create their own environment, they would code their own projects and they would be able to share it for the project with the students and other peers as well. So that's the thing that we would be introducing in a in some time. We are doing a lot of testing with with a lot of users and even with teachers as well, which and we will come some with some beta programs as well before releasing it. So, so that's an update from her side like we would be adding 3D AR VR features into Picto blocks, which we would be like focusing more towards the, the new, I would say pillar being added into Picto blocks. Thank you so much, sir, for this sharing are already our students and educators are excited to have this particular advantage in our application. Anything, Charlene ma'am any ma'am you answer you would like to add with your experience. What I think like teaching of coding it can start with unplugged activities and slowly and steadily we can start with block coding and then finally we can go to the core programming. So that would help students not only to learn in a very homely manner and we actually when we were kids we used to play lots of noodles and snake and ladder game that is missing nowadays in our kids. So that critical thinking we were automatically getting with the by playing this board game so we can be as a teacher or as a parent you can, we can start with with playing those board games at our home, all family members can sit together and then play it. So that that critical thinking whatever we are thinking of generating with the help of coding that could be indirectly indirectly being inculcated into the kids of today's because we don't know whatever we are teaching that will be actually useful for them when they grow up because they need to ultimately solve the problem that we have not ever think thought of today. So basically they need to have this critical thinking this skill they need otherwise also they need to have the 21st century skills so that they are able to solve the problem because nowadays kids are not so we when we were kids we have not seen this much of technology that we are seeing now these kids are born with technology so they are not solving those problems that we have and we were small when we were solving so better to give them those skills that how they can solve the problems when they would grow up and how to become do wonders when in their workforce and how to solve the problem so because digital literacy something that is a need of the art every child is actually aware how to use the phone but they are not actually they are not capable of using in real sense the coding and the AI they are not able to do it so they are not able to solve the problems that would they would see in the future. So they undoubtedly they are using the technology in a better manner than we use but they don't know that actually what is required in the future. So we as educators and as a parent we need to think that how we can inculcate these skills in our kids. Thank you. Thank you very much any ma'am for sharing this with us. So I think we will take probably this last question but not the least we will answer all the queries from like in the YouTube comments as much as we can. So our last question I would like to ask to Ms. Shardeen ma'am. So here we have just a moment. So how to make sure the classroom gets an interactive session every time. Well it's you know in classrooms whatever we plan may not happen right but to make it more engaging or interactive is posting because if we if we rely so much in technology there's a huge chance that some things may go on different side of it but it's important that we post really important questions open ended questions higher order thinking questions and questions that actually give them like triggers their creativity. So and that makes it more engaging for them and we create opportunities where they can collaborate and have their thoughts being spoken out. So in that sense even if because in some schools as what we have mentioned previously we have lack of resources right so if we if we talk about having resources to make it more interactive that's a different kind of a different part of the learning but yeah it's important to develop the strategies and questioning techniques to make it more interactive and importantly collaboration that's why when we ask about why will the teachers will the AI replace teachers definitely not because it's students has to collaborate with their fellow classmates they have to create this relationship and socialization. So yes it's important that when we plan interactive lessons we focus on this questioning and soft skills. Thank you. Thank you so much Miss Charlie. So anything else you would like to add Mr. Ivan. Yes. If you if we want the class to be interactive. Make the students a part of that learning process. It should not be one way traffic and then if it's topic like AI coding and robotics, of course it will always be interactive when you develop things along with with the child. It's not like you have created something and then now you give them stepwise instructions and they'll just follow like lamps. It should not be like that. The teacher himself or herself should also be open to learning. They should accept the fact that they are co learners and not just the soul harbinger or the source of knowledge. So when this environment is being built in the classroom then it's definitely going to be a very interactive class. Thank you so much sir. I think that's kind of a great perspective that you have shared Charlie and I'm you as well and we totally believe that this experiential learning or this tinkering kind of thing are the ways to have interactive classrooms. So by having so many failures and then we have to you know get get to the improvement day by day. It is the interact that lies an interaction which goes beyond day by day. Anything else Pankaj we would like to add at last. So I think a lot has been discussed and a lot has been there are a lot of perspective that we have also got so I would really like to thank all the panelists and the fellow panelists to just to who have come to from their busy schedule and have taken time to to talk about this field which is I would say still in the emerging days. There are a lot of things that is like there is no proven method to implement these technologies in schools. So everyone is trying to put their hands on and do it in their own way. So so it's very important that these kind of sessions happen so that there is a perspective being added by others and being learned from from the from the people who are already into the in like within this field. It's something which is which is very encouraging and helpful for the for the audience that have joined us. Thank you thank you everyone for for joining us. Thank you so much thank you so much Pankaj moving towards the closing of this wonderful session I would request all our YouTube audience to please share your feedback you have already shared a lot please share your feedback if you haven't done. And I would like to take a moment as an opportunity to thanks our respected delegates, Miss Charlie, Mr. Riva and Miss Annie and Mr. Pankaj for encouraging our audience with your inspiring words. Without your gracious presence and thoughtful insights this successful webinar would not have been possible. And most importantly, thank you to all our educators, principals, parents, students and everyone else for joining us for this webinar. We really appreciate your presence. We are hoping that you all have shared your valuable feedback with us. Thank you very much. What a great take a ways to remember and cherish. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Thank you everyone.