 Welcome to the World Radio Communication Conference 2023, WRC23 being held here in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates and we're in our last week and I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio this afternoon by Mr Stefan Schnor, who is the State Secretary for the Federal Ministry for Digital and Transport for Germany. Mr Schnor, welcome to the studio. Yes, thank you very much. Thank you very much for joining us here, for bracing us with your presence. Now I'd like to ask you, why is WRC23 important? You've got a busy schedule, a busy calendar, I'm sure, but you've taken the time to be here. Yes, the WRC is indeed very, very important because we discussed here about spectrum, we discussed about radio spectrum and this is very important for all areas of our life. It is important that spectrum is a scarce resource and we have to use this scarce resource very effective and very efficient. We need it for all parts of our life, the industry needs it. We need it for our mobile communication, we need it for broadcasting, we need it for navigation systems, we all use navigation systems and we need the spectrum from the satellites. We need it for the weather forecast, for example, because also the satellites use spectrum to bring the information from the space to the earth. Ships are needing it and airplanes need spectrum for their operations. So this is extremely important. On the other hand, as I mentioned, it is a scarce resource and therefore we have to discuss very intensively how can we use it so that all the users can use the spectrum that they need and this is a very complicated situation and we have to discuss it not only on national level, we have to discuss it on international level because spectrum knows no border and therefore we need the cooperation, we need the collaboration between all the states worldwide to find the best solutions and therefore the WIC20 is very important to know what is the future of the use of spectrum. Now you are the State Secretary for the Federal Ministry for Digital and Transport so there's obviously some interesting conversations going on there. I wanted to ask you what is the current landscape like for radio communications in Germany? Yeah, it's very important for us here to be on the WRC and the German delegation is about 60 persons and we have persons from all the different sectors so from the industry, from the governments, from administration but also from academia because they all have specific needs and we have to discuss together with this let me say this multi-stakeholder approach what is the best way to find the best use of this spectrum and therefore we are working very closely together with all the stakeholders in Germany and we discuss also during the conference here in Dubai very intensively if we have a proposal for the final resolution at the end that we will have on Friday and we discussed it together with all the stakeholders to find the best solution that we have clearness for the next four years. I mean it's interesting because we also have the future network car events which we have quite regularly as well so will all of these things affect future network cars and future transportation for Germany as well? Yes absolutely I think autonomous driving is a very important issue also for Germany but not only autonomous driving cars yeah we have also autonomous driving tracks for the logistic future we have autonomous driving trains in the future we have perhaps also autonomous driving airplanes yeah we have drones at moment and they also can drive or can fly automatic yeah so autonomous and therefore it is so important that we discuss these issues about the spectrum because we need the spectrum for all these operations and at the end the situation in my ministry, ministry for digital and transport makes indeed sense because the whole transport sector is dominated more and more by digital technology and also by mobile communication by Wi-Fi communication and all the other things in the in the future that we will have so therefore it is so important to combine these both issues together. And finally let me ask you Mr Schnorr are there any particular outcomes that you would like to see from this world-ready communication conference? For us it is important that we at the end of the outcome or the end of the conference that we have solutions that are relevant for all the stakeholders that are participating so that all the users have the spectrum that they need and that we find common solutions for all the different sectors on the one hand on national level on the other hand that we have the international agreement and that we this is also important not only for Germany I think for all nations it is also important that we have a little bit of flexibility because we have different needs in every country and we also need to fulfill these special requirements that we have in the future so common solutions with a little bit of flexibility this is so important for us at the end for this conference. Well let's hope that you get what you're hoping for. We hope so yeah. We do our best. And thank you very much indeed for joining us in the studio. Stefan Schnorr it's been an absolute pleasure having you in the studio. Thank you very much for this conversation. Thank you. And if you've enjoyed this interview which I'm sure you will have then do check out our other interviews on our YouTube channel as well as our podcast on SoundCloud Spotify Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast and for further information visit our website at www.itu.int. Thanks for tuning in.