 My name is Olivier and this is Benjamin, the CEO of Oled Khan. Nice to meet you. And so what's the latest with the Live5? So what is very new this year is the fact that we are launching also a software solution on top of the Live5 Mac that you have seen last year, which was providing 100 megabit per second for a full cybersecurity solution. We are now having this product. So it's completely launched, industrialized, commercialized. CE everything. CE everything certified. Fantastic. 100 megabit. 100 megabit. Down. Up and down. Downing. Up and down. And uplink, yes. Also 100 uplink. So between this and... Exactly. So... And maybe we can do a small... It's not very nice as yet, so... It's all modulated. Buy that. You see? So... It can be installed also as a small detector. Like this. Awesome. So now interference with Wi-Fi, I think. No, there is no interference with Wi-Fi. It's LED lights. It's without any radio waves. So it's very interesting in some environments like schools, like kingdom gardens. Are they adaptable? Yes, they are. There is a lot of interest, especially in Switzerland, by the way. Yeah. Especially in Switzerland. Yes. In France, we have... In France, what we call a loi abbeille. It's a law that forbids to expose children below three to radio waves. On top of it, we have discovered that a lot of companies are concerned about cybersecurity. The hackability of the Wi-Fi are very interested by this technology. And especially, they avoid what we call an attack, a cyber attack which is called the man in the middle. And with this technology, it's impossible to hack the signal outside the beam, which makes it extremely robust. So the armies, the defense industries, the banks, insurance companies are now step-by-step adopting this Wi-Fi Max. But you need to put shutters in front of the windows because if you can see through the window, you can hack on your Wi-Fi. Yes, you're right. But you need a telescope of the NASA and maybe more to be able to hack it. So it would be very difficult. Very, very difficult. I would not say completely impossible because some people are extremely smart, but it would be very difficult. So anyway, if you put shutters, it's totally impossible to hack. So what's with the new software? The new one, it's the first time in the world we introduce this one giga Wi-Fi Max. One giga. Yeah, it's a proto. It's a proto right now and for the moment the target is M2M machine-to-machine robotics. We have 301 side and 600 the other side. So this is real. For the moment it's a proto. There's more upload and download. Yes, right now. Of course. That's what I like. Yeah, yeah. I want to upload my videos. Exactly, exactly. So gigabit Wi-Fi. Exactly. How did you improve? The faster frequency? What we have improved is especially what we call the analog part of it. Which means that we have work step by step on improving our electronics. We call it higher frequency electronics very sensitive and very complex. We need a lot of time of engineering to really improve the electronics. Step by step our engineers are improving and testing and improving the products and this is why we are now able to show this world. But you know, in one year we went from 10 for 13 maybe seconds to 100. Now we're at 600 and we have this year we're going to be above the one giga for sure. So like we did in our original video the idea was that the lights and this kind of... What's the distance? Okay, so for this one we are able to... It's a compromise between the field of view and the distance. If you want a very large field of view for this one you have a 90 degrees field of view. You will get a 5 meters reach. If you have a narrower field of view you will get up to 60 meters field of view. Can you zoom? Can you turn the thing? Yes of course we have here a very sophisticated optical system. It's patented. That is able to collect a very narrow and small amount of light. We call it less than one micro watts of light power. And this is why this is quite complex to do, a very problem. Is there any chance that if you had one up there it could see exactly where you are and then it targets exactly there? I would say not really because it's a passive system it's not an active system. So we are not targeting to... How to say it? It will provide under the light beam it will provide all the connectivity that you want. But it will not be actively looking for people. And to complete what say Benjamin it's today, Li-Fi Max Cyber Security solution it's not only hardware but it's also Li-Fi Max controller it's a software going to come in the market in a couple of weeks, couple of months to control, to give you control of your Li-Fi solutions in your company, in your environment give you some tools to to give data, for example So it's like an application it's a software. What's the other software you're talking about? Did you talk about some specific software? So on top of the product we are now having launching a software which is the Li-Fi Max controller which is providing the DHTP server providing a handover, providing roaming, providing alert reporting, telemanagement of the access points So basically this software enables you as a company to integrate the Li-Fi into your IT network infrastructure without a new problem and giving you the whole security that you need. What's the chance that we can get the Li-Fi signal on the phone? To read the Li-Fi on the phone Yes, of course We are working on a chipset We are working on a chipset on a one gigabit chipset we call it an analog phone and chipset that will be available for the first prototype next year in Las Vegas So I invite you to see the first one millimeter or 2.5 millimeter chip that will be able to integrate into the smartphones And of course once we have done it the market is infinite and we will provide Li-Fi connectivity for consumers as it was the case for Wi-Fi 10 years ago So my front camera and my back camera will both support it? So it will depend on what consumers will decide what kind of use-case they will use for instance some of them have some ideas about their own use-cases Will it be the camera or is it a different sensor? No, it will not be the camera it will be a different sensor What is a sensor? It's a secret Because you have competitors who are trying to steal the secrets? Some soon LG Yeah, maybe some soon maybe LG I don't know and I have also some other like Phillip Signify who are a very strong competitor They want to know what we are doing They are looking at this Did you invent this? Yes, we have 21 patents and for instance this product I really have designed it myself from the very beginning It's made in France Yes, in the University of Paris-Saclay we are a spin-off of the University and we have 5 PhDs and 12 engineers working on it constantly and improving the technology every year So It's been 2 years now Yes 7 years 7 years of R&D We really started to work on what we call the industrialization of the technology which means moving from the laboratory to the real world 3 to 4 years ago How about going on a public square and having a life that is going to happen or killer apps Are you talking mostly about killer gardens? What do you think is going to be huge? I think at this moment we have 2 killer apps that are now confirmed by the customers in cybersecurity so providing an unhackable wireless connectivity in offices for certain companies and the second one is the aeronautics with the life you can save up to 100 kilos in an aircraft this is why it's very interesting 100 kilos 100 kilos 100 kilos For instance, Air France told us that they are able to save 500 kilos in a 777 thanks to the life app Take away all the cables You take away all the shielded cables You take away connectivity box Yeah, exactly You can basically remove all the cables that are used for the flight entertainment system below the seats and only use fiber optics and which are above the passengers that communicate immediately the signal to the seats So in one year it pays for the whole system to save gas a lot and provides a fantastic connectivity to the passenger 100 megabits per second is very comfortable So are you able to make it stable? Is it stable? This is just the first prototype of one giga but if you go here you will see a solution which is extremely stable now Can I show you a small video which is very nice Let me... It's very interesting Let me show to you what a customer of mine in Japan has done with the technology It is really very very interesting So you see here the there is one Life 5 Max dongle in the frame and the camera is connected to you So the camera is Life 5 Max This is to show to you It is very interesting Surprised to see the test that our customers were doing with the technology Is it something you can use on light bulbs? Yes, of course When we will have the chip one of the application will be to integrate that into the socket of the light bulb All the light bulbs in the room? Yes, of course It will be perfectly possible to do It will be perfectly possible to do You still need to connect the light bulbs to the to the network via PLC for instance It will be perfectly possible to do Power line Smart light bulbs that create the Life 5 Max So if you combine power line communication and Life 5 you will be able to communicate from all the light bulbs that are connected to the to the electricity You don't see any... No, because you blink the LED so fast 30 million times per second that you cannot see 30 million times And that chip will support you a bit? Yes, absolutely All right