 Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening and welcome to a very special in the clouds today We are talking about Ansible and Ansible fests which comes next week folks If you have not got your tickets get them now. I am joined today by my former boss on the Ansible team Katie pick a really how are you today Katie? I'm great. So good to be here Chris and so good to be here with you Really excited to talk about all the things coming next week. We've been preparing for a while. So excited Yes, and you know the last Ansible fests. I was at was Atlanta where you were emceeing We're talking about that in pre-show But like let's hit this one question. I have about Ansible Fest first. So sure well fest and NYC Was my first ever like big Tech conference and big back then right like the first NYC time not the Brooklyn one The first one yes, I wasn't at that one, but yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's it like it's always been this Like welcoming and friendly environment and has stayed that way year after year Like I have friends that I still talked to from that first Ansible Fest Yeah, like I just like how do you make that happen? Like that's such a big deal right like building good conferences is hard. It is a big deal You know, I I believe wholeheartedly in the community aspect of it And so we really try to take the community piece and bring it to the event perspective And I agree with you like I've met so many amazing folks at Ansible Fest and connected People who wouldn't normally be connected because of an old fest And I think that's that experience alone makes it why people love Attending the challenge has been in the virtual environment How do we make that also that in-person experience with the community in the the event sort of happen in a virtual experience? And so we've we've been looking at a couple of different ways to do that It's a lot harder, but we do have a thing that we're doing At fest this year called brain date where you're able to register a time and connect with different folks Who are either experts like engineers that you know, we always had that ask the expert area Which is super popular and so we've tried to somehow do that in a virtual setting for sure But we'll see how it goes and hopefully we get some good feedback Whether we can adjust and change and keep going for a virtual experience. Yeah I know we were talking in the know before you go I think last week about brain date a little bit and I'd never heard of it And like it seems like such a natural fit for that ask the experts piece. So that brilliant call on that one because I mean I remember in Atlanta, I got called they ask experts time or section a few times and it was like, yeah, you know, you're fine And yeah, so now you can actually be like Hey, I need to talk to somebody about x and you'll get time with the person and that's tremendously powerful Super any problems and that's been the most that's been the most Um Everyone's most favorite part right being able to make some connections with people who have either knowledge and expertise So you just want to ask a question about Yeah, I remember, uh, I don't remember the exact problem But I know I went to the ask an experts area Before I joined red hat in brooklyn at answalt fest because I had some unique problem in my environment We were trying to automate away And I needed like real help right like I had been in I or she's been in the forums. I had done everything I possibly could and it's like Well, this is nice since I'm here. Let's get this question answered right exactly And I had it like pre written down and everything so Just dropped on the little spreadsheet or whatever you had back then and off we went I know we had paper sign-ups back then and What's that even like anymore But yeah, like it's really helpful So like if you're if you're not going to answalt fest, I would highly encourage you if you're having some challenge with answalt It is the right place to go to find a fix. It is not just a You know kind of fluffy conference it you will find technical like deep technical expertise on the ground there And you don't see it a lot of other conferences No, and we've even seen like people last year met in the chat, right? Someone was like, oh, I I was able to solve that too and someone was like Oh, really I've been having that challenge and they were able to connect offline and kind of Meet a new connection without actually being in person So I'm I always tell everyone when you go to answalt fest now even whether it's in person or not in person Your job is to meet a new person or a new connection find a new friend, right someone who can help you Navigate what everyone's trying to do with automation, right? Yeah, and that that premise is awesome, right? Like that is fantastic because like it's so hard In larger communities to like break down the barriers of introduction sometimes Especially with a virtual barrier in between you now, right now. It's not just interpersonal But now there's an actual screen and wires and stuff You know hundreds of miles thousands of miles CDNs abound and everything else. So yeah the There's always a theme though to answalt fest and where's the theme this year So the theme this year is to automate innovate and accelerate And so really we're trying to you know, we've brought in different Customer stories we've brought in I think there's close to 70 breakout sessions And then also live q&a so that people can just hey either i'm new to this or i'm doing a lot of really amazing awesome things And they take automation and you really want to take that time that you got back from automation and innovate in ways, right? Bring back more time to do the things we care about You know give people time to work on the things they want to work on and hopefully then you're going to accelerate all of those Goals and business goals that People put in front of you, you know Yeah, it it ansible gives you that power to kind of see the world through the lens of ansible right like Oh, I don't understand this piece of hardware, but if I understand the ansible module I know how to work with it now Right, like it could be a completely foreign thing to you and as long as there's a module or collection around to help you out You'll get the hang of it pretty quick, which is kind of like the Like winning thing for me when it comes to ansible. It's just like you can understand the world through ansible and be okay Um, the other great teacher it is and the other great thing to that, you know, take it even a step further, right is You can begin to connect dots within your organization. You might not have connected before So you got something you're trying to do and you're like, I don't really know maybe the inputs I want to do here. I'm going to call up the network team and the network teams. What are you doing? Oh, this is super cool. Let me help right, you know being in making some connections We talked about people connecting with each other to find better ways to do things Yeah, and like that leads me into my next question Um, when you know the last in-person ansible fest we announced ansible automation platform We did and we're coming up. Um, you know It's grown and advanced and it's become a thing. It's real. It's out there, you know, like I moved away from the ansible org to join the open shift org right after that ansible fest I feel like so i'm curious about how it's evolved the automation platform piece and how it's Been liked to provide an automation platform and what customers have said about it Yeah, super great question chris. So, um, you know initially we announced it And it's it was an offering right that we put together so that it could be a more comprehensive offering that our customers needed, right? Um, and over You know into 2020 we added, um, you know the analytics, uh, which is now part of the red hat insights family We added, um, um the services catalog where you could interact with automation through a user interface Right, you kind of pre-build automation and then you could have people, you know order automation that you might need We added automation hub, which is the place where we host all of our Certified content collections, right? So the supported those modules you talked about Moved into a collections format, right when we decoupled the Execution engine from the content when we shipped it with, um, you know ansible And that made it easier for folks who were creating that content that automation content to run as fast as they wanted to right And that content is now hosted in automation hub. So you can easily find and navigate to particular partners, right or You know something you're doing if you're working only in security or network or infrastructure, right? It makes it easy to super easy to to navigate to what you're looking for from that certified content perspective um, and then additionally We took that automation hub framework and then last year we had announced that we're going to allow for Um you to use that automation hub on an in an on-premise environment so that you can host your content, right? And share it with people across your organization So we really continue to evolve what the platform offers you besides, you know The execution engine and and what we called automation or excuse me ansible tower um There's gonna be a lot of great fantastic announcements that we're going to talk about next week that really continue to evolve on What ansible automation platform to or ansible automation platform is for our customers? nice so there's a Analyst piece that's out there talking about how breadhead ansible automation platform provides efficiency scalability and return on investment I'm gonna drop the link in the chat for that. That's from idc I mean what all went into that study and then what came out of it? I guess, you know having not fully digested the whole thing yet great great question we actually did the study in 2019 and so we um, we Um took a lot of the data that we had um, and a lot of um some additional customers And so idc conducted research that explored the value and the benefits from organizations there the Average number of employees for the organization that they interviewed and did research with was around 17 000 employees So they took some pretty large organizations um that we work with And they interviewed different teams um with an infrastructure and operations development network security, and they really um understood like hey before Ansible automation platform and after what was the value and what was the benefit? um the first one that we did in 2019 we pulled some data in that had that um Install automation was able to provide a 498 return on investment over five years 498 return on investment and that was in 2019 when it first came out, right? Right This only added more feature sense. Yeah only added more things more more amazing things for you to have um and to deliver across your organization and the most recent update is a 667 return on investment over five years so You know automation strategically in your organization We know that folks see the value of it But when you begin to take it across your organization using a platform that can interact with different teams and different pieces and parts um 100% gives you a fabulous return on your investment great place to spend time and effort and energy And that and that kind of brings me to the next question right like automation hub is there you can have your own automation hub um you know, there's A lot of that is You know a significant amount of effort from the engineering side, but to get a ROI that's in the hundreds of percentages uh, that's almost insane and It just shows you how Much you can do once you get started and that getting started part. I know it's hard for a lot of people but Yeah, now you can actually say right. Okay. We have our own things Well, let's go ahead and take advantage of you know, our red hat subscription or get a subscription to ansible to pull in Automation hub locally put those there and then grab collections that we see fit, you know, they're 100 certified collections out there 100 plus I mean and you know pull that down to locally and just say like this is automation You can use right now in our environment to do what you need to do and Like that piece I felt like was that content delivery piece to the customer I always felt like that was harder back in you know back in the day and now it's not easier It feels like like getting the right stuff to people is That was a big thing that we heard from Users and customers right and potential customers right is hey, that's great. I could do all this stuff anything Yeah, I can automate anything. I mean, you know In theory, right um You know in theory we can do what we would like to right But how do I get all these pieces and parts and put it together, right? That's the value of the platform and the subscription, right? Like we give you all of those tools necessary really to Deliver on a expansive organizational wide experience, right? No matter, you know, we just talked that idc talked to all these different teams, right? Pretty awesome, right? And so you know, how do you do that across an organization when different teams have different things They're working on and using and different integrations and different tools, right? Sharing automation is a huge thing because yeah, we have seen silos of automation happen I've seen it happen, you know, like one team adopts ansible You know the TV version or whatever and they're often running and they're doing great things and all of a sudden it's like Okay, we'd like to spread that out throughout the entire organization and then that's where things kind of get weird It's tough. Yeah, it gets tough, right it does. Um That's where a lot of our customers and I can you know, even share a couple of things that are That we're doing with the organ with in Like with red hat and what we're doing to help customers. Um, and then also some things you'll see at ansible fest. So Um, you know first one of the things that folks are coming to us all the time is they're like, hey I'm all in on automation. I'm all in on ansible But how do I scale this and how do I get started, right? To get you know, and so we have launched an assessment program to help customers sort of say Okay, I'm started. I want to do more. But how do I add to what I'm doing today? Um, and we did our first assessment. We've done about three in each region We started it this summer, which feels like, you know Six months ago, but really was like what a month and a half two months ago The fault equinox happened, uh this week Yesterday, right? Um, and so the first one we did um, we really weren't expecting A ton of interest in the organization and at the first meeting 28 people From all areas of it showed up because they were like, hey, I'm in I want to do stuff How do I participate in a meaningful way? Um, and so we know that organizations are like, hey, I'm here I'm ready to automate, but I've got people in organ teams doing it different places and parts. How do I bring it together? Different levels all that stuff all of that stuff, right? How do we bring it together? How do we get everyone on board and there's a couple of things that we're going to talk about at ansible fest that Um, is it okay if I highlight some of those things to kind of that we've got some customers that are gonna Talk about that. We've got one customer who is going to talk about their Culture of extreme automation now that feels extreme, right? But that's the word that Extreme automation extreme programming. I mean, whatever, you know, it feels extreme, right? Um, but they're gonna talk about exactly that where teams were Doing their automation and silos, right? And they were like Seeing all of this benefit So they were like, what if we connected the dots between all of these teams? And then there was a couple of teams that were like, I don't know about this automation stuff, right? And so, you know, joe mills is going to go through with um, tom anderson They're doing a kind of a conversation like we are, you know About how did they do that within their organization? How did they take people from? You know, I'm not really sure to like super excited or these teams to connect the dots So definitely a great presentation on the main stage and everyone is going to want to see And then additionally part of that right is once you get them excited How do you give them those skill sets? How do you get them to work together, right? And one of the things that We really believe right as a part of red hat and in everything is a community of practice, right? And so one of the largest community of practices In that what we are going to say like our ansible customers, right is going to talk about exactly that How did they deliver on a community of practice with I'm pretty sure I'll probably get this number wrong But I think there's around 7,000 different people across 20 countries who are Delivering who are part of this community of practice delivering playbooks delivering automation. They're giving them the skills They're giving them the pathway. Um, and so I don't want to give it all away, right? But super fantastic stories You know, they're bringing those stories to life and the work that they're doing every day So definitely a part of ansible test you won't want to miss Right and I'm dropping links in chat as we're talking here the um Shoot, I just forgot what I was about to say the Uh So you mentioned the main stage. I wanted to talk to you about like okay, I went ahead. No platform. Yeah So there's four main stages or four main like Yeah, great question. So the event itself we talked about the theme, right? So there's two days And one thing that we did find from last year is that we had two full days Now that was pretty early I say early in the pandemic, right? Um, but it was pretty early and two full full days We had a lot of people. It's a lot of content, right? It's a lot to take in Um, and we know people do multitask, right? Like that's just You know, and that's okay. Totally acceptable and totally understandable, right? So what we did is we collapsed it to two half days so Really and then what we did is the majority of the content isn't then available on demand, right? So what we're going to do is two half days and we're going to I'm calling it kind of a bookend where There's a main stage session right in the beginning, right? And then there'll be a main stage session at the last hour of those half days So four hours of content Two main stages each day beginning and end Um, and then in between there's some breakout sessions that we are we're doing semi-live so There'll be some sessions that you can actually interact with the speaker So that's the difference when on demand and then semi-live, right is that The person who did that presentation with some of those sessions will be available to answer questions throughout the process but some of the ones that are on demand and won't have that Interaction with the presenter, right? And so that's probably one of the drawbacks of having shortened days, right is you know But it does kind of fit better into everyone's schedules and what they're looking for, right? And so those four main stage sessions are About 45 minutes long some are a little bit longer some are a little bit shorter And so really trying to keep it short and sweet as best we possibly can And those main stage sessions are what is inclusive of those customer spotlights we talked about and demos And then also announcements for different things that we're announcing And so we're super super excited about that. We also tried to get a little bit fun And walter bentley who runs our automation services practice Love walter. He's so fabulous. Awesome. Yeah, he's amazing He and I are actually hosting ansible fest together and yeah, so We went out to california and we did a lot of the host segments Recorded in a studio. So it's almost like you're there in person but not So we've got a little fun stuff happening and so those demos though Four demos one and each of those main stages won't want to miss it. They do tell a story So we really tried to tell a story of an organization, right? And how they would how across these different teams How do they interact with automation and interact with the platform? So Super super great stuff. Definitely want to check it out great keynotes great announcements. Um, I'm excited really am Yeah, like A walter's presence and yours. That's awesome And then b right like I love the the book ending right because I always like starting the day in one place and finishing it in one place and there's There's some conferences that do that and some that don't and like I've never not seen anyone do that virtually yet Which is pretty cool. So I'm curious. We're giving it a try. We'll love some feedback. We'd love some feedback totally Um, and yeah, this only gets better by feedback folks So please if you get the opportunity to give feedback during ansible fest take it because we can make things better You know, we're trying we really are trust me. I've seen the hard work people have been putting on on our events team It's it's tough so the The next question I want to ask is around, you know, any product announcements you might want to tease or potentially say, you know If you really want to uh here while folks are watching, uh, no pressure. No pressure. Yeah Please maybe I don't know, you know, there's gonna be some good stuff coming. Um, you know We've we've talked a lot, right, you know about some of the stuff In in past years and and how we looked at some Strategy we talked a little bit about that even at when we announced it in 2019 and then last year Right, some of those things, you know, we'll be able to see come to life and we'll be some of those things You know some additional stuff that we'll talk about. Um, It's gonna be it'll be really exciting. There's gonna be some really great stuff. Um, I'll have to leave it at that Yeah, I've seen it. It's awesome Um, but yeah, so thank you for that. Definitely want to tune in for that folks. Trust me. There's some good stuff coming down the pipe Our engineering teams have been awesome uh at Getting that feedback and putting it to action. Um, yes And that I think is one of the powers that the Ansible team has right is taking that feedback and actually saying, okay What can we do? as a whole like the entire community To enable somebody to do something better right to enable automation across teams, right? Like that's So hard to do so Helping people do that is a big win So there's a big people aspect to it, right? Yeah, right. It's not only the technology And so those are some of the things that We will talk about next week, right is some of the updates and things to the technology are because We want to make it to where the people Can interact in a way that makes sense for them or you know, just pieces and parts and so, um, you know I still go back to the I think, um We had a tagline on some stickers a couple of years ago, right that said automation is for the people Um, and so at the end, right, you know these things That the engineers and the product managers and the community and all the things that come together to get to What we're doing, right? It's because they're You know, ultimately it's for how to how do people do things every day and make their lives better and make their organization better and deliver, you know, things that they're excited about so Right anytime. I think about like organizational work. I think about people processes and tooling and right like Ansel gives you two of those Especially with ansible the automation hub and the platform The like you get the process and the tooling Boom now all you have to do is educate your people and they can be off to the races, right? And that's kind of the beautiful part of ansible I feel like is that it's not that hard to pick up Like I said earlier, you can kind of see the world through the ansible lens once you get the hang of it and then you know Get doing that in mass as part of like a community of practice or the entire company is now on board with the automation platform With you only enables you to automate faster, right? Like Yep One of the greatest tweets I think of all time was from jessie frazell where it's like find people that want to automate things Let them automate themselves out of a job and then give them more things to automate, right? Like Because there's it's never ending. It's never is never ending, right? Like I could automate everything I could possibly think of But there's always going to be some process that falls down on its face sometimes, right and automation can help you there What's the one thing that we've seen the most with a lot of the things that are happening? um You know with speed scale and complexity, right that just There's only really one answer to that, right? You know, maybe it's not one answer but like, you know The way to handle a lot of those things comes with automation I and you know going back to the people part of it. It's So important to like give your people the tools They want to use and enable them to use them in the way as they see fit, right? But Totally putting the safeguards around that, right? Like that's where you bring in the automation hub local kind of instance deal And you say all right here are certified, you know organization-wide pieces of automation that you can fire off against different pieces of things to get Here's what you can use, right? Yeah Do you got something from a cloud provider to you know, open a port on the firewall do something with a load balancer? All these automation pieces are right there sitting there for you to like take hit play and You know watch happen and and that I think is like The answer was next superpower if that makes sense, right? Like it's it's ease of use got a lot of people in the door at first But now it's like it's ease of spreading throughout the organization Correct next hurdle and superpower that is going to like get feature-wise really powerful Um, let's see what questions haven't I asked you we talked about automation assessments a little bit. Um I don't think we need to dive any further into that. We talked about the four stage sessions um So expanding Reach you made a number of changes to the conference, right? It's half days. Yeah Anything else you want to talk about there to regarding the To meet people where they are kind of deal. Yeah, totally. We um, you know, super great question So one of the things, you know last year we did have some live demos and those can be a little nerve-wracking, right? In general, I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about I'm not nervous at all either now. Um, and so um, we decided this year to do everything pre-recorded so that we could also make sure that we could close caption as well as also, um, We are also translating into seven languages. So, um, The the main piece there, right is that in order to really do that at scale the pre-recorded aspect of it becomes important, you know More than, you know, anyone also with a lot of the work that you do And so that we're really excited about that was some feedback we received last year. Um, and so really to expand our reach globally Even if it's not a person who's going to join In another region at 10 o'clock in the morning because it might be a little late for them It will still be available on demand in those languages so that they can Check it out That's fantastic and I cannot thank you enough for close captioning on those videos because as I've Become, you know, more advanced in my age hanging out with data centers Hanging out in data centers just starting to like become a thing in my hearing So yeah, like that is A great way to make this more accessible for everybody and I really appreciate the effort there. Um, and also There's I agree, you know, it makes it You know a lot of folks want to also interact with videos in that way, right where they're You know, you know, there's there's a variety of of of vectors there that make it Awesome for so many so many different folks. So yeah, no, that's great Uh, folks if you have questions feel free to ask the you know the one and only katie picarelli is here Your questions. Um, so the You mentioned there are some live ish demos What what what are we demoing or is that product stuff that you can't necessarily show off? So, um They are pre-recorded. So, um, I would have loved I love the adrenaline of the live demos even if it was a little bit nerve-wracking. Um, but they are gonna be some, um Product stuff. So, um, definitely want to check it out again It tells a great story about across an organization Depending on different folks how they interact with automation what it does and I think that's really cool Yeah, that's great. That's good stuff Uh, big speakers, uh, any big speakers that you think of off the top of your head? So we have a second question. I know, right? Um, so we talked about walter awesome, um We have kelly fits patrick from redmont. She's doing, um a Making automation a critical strategy session. So excited about that. We talked about some of the customers that are gonna be at In doing their session at ansible vest. We have, uh, tracy buckner who runs our community of practice. She's gonna talk about um How would you do a community of practice in your organization? Um, and then she interviews, um The the customer we talked about with their community of practice. So, um Some really good stuff Yeah, no, that's that's awesome. You know kelly We only follow each other on twitter, but She does great work. I mean, she really does. There's no other way to say it. Uh So please check out that session. I think especially with the lineup, right? You've got You got matthew jones on there. He's a chief architect. You have yourself walter Then tom and kelly like that is going to be a powerful session about spreading automation across your organization That's the hardest part of the puzzle here so far Go to that one. I would bookmark that one if you can folks We also have the cube is also this year. Um doing some stuff with the cube Um, and so Stephanie and ashash and joe Fitzgerald. So Stephanie cheer us and um ashash badani and joe Fitzgerald are all going to have a conversation so um Definitely want to check that out. We've got um Some customers on the cube. So, um excited about that. Um, so there's some great great content you know It'll be you'll have bookmarked for a while, right? Things you want to check out Yeah, the youtube watch list just gets longer shorter, um If I could turn off the count, I'd be happy. That'd be a great feature youtube. Thank you. Um Yeah, that number gets a little higher and higher and then Like makes me feel that like it's like inbox zero. I want to hit youtube zero So You know, these are just closing questions that i'm gonna ask you. There's no right answer to these. Um, okay What's what gets you up in the morning, right? Like you have this amazing like purview over automation and I'm just curious, right like I know it's a struggle sometimes I know it's very over rewarding sometimes, but what is it that drives you? Super great question. Um, what drives me is I love hearing from people and teams and organizations who tell me About how excited they are um, I remember a story and I um, I also kind of tell it at fest this year. Um about how people came to me and they were like I have been able to go to my kid's soccer practice, right at the end of the day, right? Um People have come up and just hugged me and I'm like, you don't need to hug me You need to hug the community and the engineers and you know, like Like I wish it was me, but it is absolutely not. It's like, um And I I feel like the luckiest person because I have the opportunity to work with A fabulous group of people a fabulous community um a fabulous team really listening to people. Um, and it it truly is I've seen lives changed, right and that sounds kind of silly. Um, it's not. I've seen it happen myself like It really is life-changing. It really is and when someone came like when someone I've never met before came and gave me a hug at ansible fest, which you know I was like It was like my first ansible fest and I was like blown away at you know, just the amazing things that Happen, you know, I could also say I have an I have an older pet who likes to get up at 5 30 in the morning So that also is part of the reason why you know So then I check my email and I see all these amazing things happening So I I absolutely love the opportunity that I have to work with with the ansible team and with the community and the engineers awesome yeah, I I mean to To prove your point of it changes lives, right? Like I remember two distinct situations two different jobs Yeah, where I put ansible in place and we changed a release process for one product from the weekend to less than an hour and then another location we changed the deployment of the customer portal from A multi-step only the devs know how to do this and if something goes wrong They have to pull in people and it's like all hands on deck thing to make this and it's just one ansible Come in and you're off and running right and It happened in 45 minutes, right? So we've taken two big projects that take days Squeeze them down into less than an hour. I mean and like you said they were we that is powerful, right? Like these are weekend weekend Yeah customer impacting upgrades Must do it on the weekend kind of thing and like people got their lives back P to have trust in the automation then to say hey if something goes wrong It'll back itself out or hey if if something is successful It's done and here we are with the latest version of whatever and if we automated the automation Right like getting that running all the time We're always gonna have the latest and greatest Unless we hit some bump in the night, which ansible will tell you Hey, this is a bump of the night type thing and you can then roll it back roll it back. Yeah It's really powerful. It really is So ansible fest You got a lot of stuff coming up What are you excited about in the afterfest, right? Talk to me about that piece, right? Like I know it's the only thing on your mind right now, but like Afterfest, you know into next year. What are you thinking excitement-wise like Anything you're excited about some great change or some great things are coming up, right? Some announcements that we're talking about Is just gonna it's like the tip of the iceberg for the things that are gonna happen in q4 And so some really exciting things happening It's it's gonna be It'll be a good few months, right feels like we're going into the holidays and You know, I'm just I just September, right? Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, it's all And we've got you know Some some really cool stuff like I I want to be able to say it, but I know some really cool stuff I keep teasing you But I mean, this has been great kitty. Thank you so much for for coming on Thank you so much for you know, just doing what you do out there to make ansible better, right? Because it's a tool A lot of people use um, you know, and It being easy to use while still being as powerful as it is is this delicate balance and I know that's hard So thank you so much for helping folks with that. Thanks for having me on here. Um, I'm here to Get everyone excited and and represent all the amazing work done by community and engineers and product management and You know event teams and marketing teams. There's so many different folks who have participated in making Ansible Fest next week happen and so It takes a village and we have a big one and I think that that's awesome. So Yeah, it's it's a great community folks if you've never used ansible before The next thing you should do is go out ansible.com slash docs figure out how to install it and kick the tires on it Seriously, just watch and then go there Good place to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Thank you so much. Katie really appreciates your time today. Thank you looking forward to ansible fest next week Any parting thoughts before we sign off? Happy automating happy automating. I love it. All right, folks Coming up next dev nation and then later in the day Rail presents and get up sky to the galaxy. So stick around and when in doubt check the calendar as I drop a link to it And we'll see you soon everybody. Thank you again the katie picurelli and the ansible team for joining us today. Thank you