 Thank you. Okay, hello everyone. My name is Andres Chicova, and I hope I don't disappoint you, but my profession is not computer science. I study psychology, and I will talk about Tabletia, the app for children with dyslexia from the perspective of my position. I am some kind of coordinator of this project from the very beginning, and yeah, I will tell you more about it, but I firstly should tell that we developed Tabletia and CZNIC, which is actually a non-profit association, which takes care, I'm sorry for my language, but I don't understand that so much, but takes care of the CZ domain registry, so I work in the department of research and development, which is called LAPS, and we do a lot of open source development there, and you may know, for example, Turing Omnia, which is our new router, which is open source based, and we also develop Node-NS and BERT, but I will tell you about Tabletia, which is an app for Android and iOS, and it is cognitive training for children with dyslexia, and we are based, we are specialized on older children because the reason why we realized that we want to develop this game was because there was a lot of teachers and psychologists who told us, well, it's fine, we can do a lot of education with these children, but they are not motivated, and especially all the children are not motivated to do anything for them and to be better, so we realized we want to make a game for them to have fun and at the same time to force them a bit to do something for them, so Tabletia is now available in Czech, Slovak and German language. We started with the Czech version, but then our colleague from Slovak told us that they would like to have the app as well, and then we realized that it could be fun to do it also in German, and now Tabletia contains eight games which are connected in detective topics, so there is young detective who is trying to become better detective and learn how to do that. Tabletia is already available for free on Android and iOS, and it's used already in many schools and counseling facilities in Czech Republic and also in Slovakia and Germany, but we try to convince children to use it also on their own without being forced from schools and other facilities. I would like to tell a bit about dyslexia actually is because I'm not sure if it's clear what I mean when I say dyslexia, so it's one of the specific learning disabilities which means that people who have dyslexia have problems with reading and writing, but the problems with reading and writing are caused because of some deficit in cognitive functions. It means that firstly those people have some problems with attention or working memory which caused the problems with reading and writing, and we also used to say a lot that people with dyslexia are using a lot of different strategies how to learn, so when they have problems with in some part of this cognitive functions they are trying to avoid that and in using different learning strategies. So dyslexia should help them to find the way how to getting better and how to find the things that work for them and where are the weaknesses. We are not doing that alone in CZNIC, we are cooperating with some different universities especially Charles University in Prague, the department of psychology where I study and we consult all the work we do on the app with Lenka Reichova who is a specialist on special educational problems and who helps us to make the app really working. And we also worked with Konstantin the philosopher university in Nithra where some people helped us with developing the Slovak version and also university in Vienna where we developed the German version and now we are doing a bit of research on the Hamnitz University of Technology and speaking about technology I would say just a few words about the technological part of the app. We firstly developed it just for Android because it's used like yeah I think in 80% of cases where we want people to use tablets yeah it's they use smartphones or tablets with Android so we decided to do that in n-gine but then there was a lot of people who told us that they would like to use that also for iOS. So we decided for some cross-platform development and because the app is already written in Java we decided to use LibGDX which allowed us to make the app for iOS and Android at the same time and there's also option to make it on desktop which we are going to train this year if it works and if it really works the same way as on tablets and all the apps with all the content all sounds and pictures it's open source under the licensed gpl and you can find the object on GitLab. We also do a lot of testing with the app because from the very beginning we tried to really use children with dyslexia as the people who should tell us if it works as it should and if they like it and if they understand what they should do but yeah every time with some new game which we developed we firstly try that on our own if we are able even to play that and if we think that it's okay we are going to schools and we are asking children what they think about it and we also are trying to make the game so difficult that the children are really learning something new but at the same time not so difficult to help them to really have not just be disappointed and frustrated and now we are also trying to focus more about the effectivity of the app because it's it's really interesting question if it really helps if it really if we let people to play some games if it helps them to be better in reading and writing so we try to make some pre-post test design to find out if it's true but to be honest it's quite difficult because we need to find a lot of children with dyslexia it means they should have the diagnosed and collect them together and let them play the game for some time so I don't know like six or seven weeks at least three times a week but we are trying to cooperate on that with schools but we found out that children are not going to school so much I don't know how it's possible but they are missing all the time so it's really hard to catch them and we are still working on the app so we planned to make 10 games so there is two left which we want to develop this year and we also try to focus on the desktop version and there was also a lot of questions about our languages because the first question you may have is why is it not in English but it's quite difficult because as we wanted to make an app which would work for Czech children we focused on Czech language dyslexia is based on the specificity of each language so people with dyslexia struggle with something else in Czech and in English so it's not so easy to make games to be so yet transformable to other languages I will show you some slides from the game so you will see me more about what I'm talking now and we also from the from the data we have from the app we found out that we already have some problems with German version because in the parts of the app where there is a lot of reading text the German version is much harder for the children than the Czech version because there is a lot of like huge German words which are not so easy to read so so that's what we are going to try to fix you can see here this is the first game we have there who understands German can read that it's it says a rubber or in this case in German it's it's quite complicated because there is a lot of like gender correctness and for example in Czech language we don't have a word for woman detective or woman no detectives but not a woman robber no I'm sorry yeah whatever but but in German we have to write that all the time both so this is the beginning of the game started to be more complicated in German language because they need to read two words in step one at the beginning and then you can see there is rubber has some yellow whatever something on him and and some some passes and the the task is to read this this information and then you will see some people coming into a shop and you have to find out who was the robber so in this case it was that the picture is not belonging to the text before but it would be quite easy because you can just say okay this one has this but then there are more complicated instructions for example the robber is a person who has the same trousers as a person who comes for him so the people have to really focus more on the on the content and use their working memory this is another game which is on spatial orientation so in this task Chun have to put the map together to find out where the robbers are hidden and there are different maps and and each game has three different levels of difficulty so this is the the easiest one and then you have four to four times four and five times five maps this game is on phylogical recognition and analysis and you hear some voices and you have to find out which one is the right one so firstly you see some some word and then you have to find from these three options you can see with the signs there which one was the right and in the more difficult version there is some letter missing in the middle of the word so it's even more difficult to find out and there was also one of the games which was quite complicated to make in german because the german works some kind of different in pronunciation pronouncing seeding words than english then check and even in english when we were thinking about it it was yeah it seemed even even worse this is a game for the training visual memory where the detective sees some some windows and at the same time he sees watch where some some time appears and they have to then press the right windows and put there the right time when it appeared this game is shooting range it's when we started to to test that that with children we asked them what other game they would like to have there and they all told us okay we want to shoot someone and we were like yeah you know it's not real dad what do we want to do so we tried to put them the shooting in the game but not on the people so yeah they don't like that so much but at least we tried so this game is training of attending you can see the the flower there on the right corner so that the flower is randomly changing and they have to shoot the the right flowers on the screen this one game is it's called in the darkness but it's not really in the dark but imagine that you are here you are this small person and are trying to go there to the safe and you have to plan your way to the safe through this labyrinth or building so you have these kind of blocks taskfuls you can do you can walk one step or you can turn or you can jump across the the door or you can open door so you have to plan that and if you are finished then you can go and you will see if you did that right then we have a visual recognition so you can see some symbols here and you can see also the same symbols there so the task in this is the e level it's to just find the the right symbol but in the more complicated version the symbols are reversed so they have to manipulate the symbol in mind before and then there is also a version where there is more symbols on the same place so they have to find it in the middle of them and this is for now the last game which is on the phonological memory so here at the beginning some kind of sounds there is for example three sounds in in the beginning and then they see this room they have to find out what was the sounds and in which order they they were so they put then the subjects which made the sound in this order here and there is also some other parts of the of the app which is this hall of fame where you can see that when you are good and you are really getting better you are also gaining some some trophies and special special prizes and here you can also see there are some some badges which show how good detective you are there's also some part which is called statistics which shows how are you doing in the app and if you are getting better or not or if there is something what you should train more or something what you shouldn't do at all and this is also a part which is called encyclopedia this slide is from a web page because the app is obviously not in in english but this is how it looks like so you have here some kind of things which are explained to the to the children what that actually means that they have some kind of dyslexia or so because they are sometimes really interested in that but yeah we realize that there is like for example there aren't sometimes even don't know what that means so we try to make that easier for them to understand and there is at the end some what they can do to learn better and all the texts are also with with recording so they can hear that at the same time they read it which helps them to understand better and that's it for me I thank you for your attention you're saying you want to translate the languages what kind of people are you referring to? well um yeah the question was what kind of people we are looking for to translate the the app in other languages um yeah translation is easy but it's it's collocated in the meaning of the dyslexia so we need some kind of expert as we did that in for example with the german version we asked a person on the University of Vienna who understands dyslexia in german context and yeah so so that's basically what what we need that the the biggest problem we have because we have people who are programming that and yeah then we of course need some native speaker to uh record all the texts but that's also not such a big deal okay it's me by anna god levin's does it work um okay we asked the people who are uh really working with app who are doing that to children on the daily basis and they told us we think it works we saw some kind of evidence we see that if they do this task then they are getting better in this real life task i'm sorry that was a question so these games are to help kids with dyslexia but can they also be used or like or similar games to diagnose it or like you know of like other methods uh the question was if we can use that also to diagnose dyslexia well we can't it's it's quite complicated but we can say in which particular cognitive functions are some deficits so we can say yeah okay spatial orientation it's a big problem but you are really good in working memory but we can't say okay you are dyslexic yeah that was yep uh four years yeah oh the question was how long it took to be here yeah yeah i i saw earlier when you were about to uh because some kind of death do but actually get data on how effective it is i'm sorry i'm not sure if i understand the question you were going to do some death to see how effective it was do you have any idea when you got the yeah we all already started with that and um the question was i'm sorry the question was uh what or how we if we already did some kind of effectiveness research or are we going we started in in last year we did some kind of pilot testing but the thing is that it's even hard to to tell what should be the test we use to find out if really works so we have some kind of cognitive tests but is that really what we want to measure and then we have some kind of reading and writing tests but the problem is that for these older children 11 to 15 there is for example in Czech Republic there's not so much test we can use and they already know the test because those are the tests they were measured with to be diagnosed dyslexia so they the tests are already biased yeah have you tested against school results or something like that it's not transferable yeah the question was if we try to measure that against test results or school results it's not what we can actually i don't think it's a good idea at all because yeah usually they are in normal schools because the the the deficit is usually not so huge to make them being in in some special schools but there are in in in the schools sometimes some classes where all the children with dyslexia are maybe from different classes but for this one lesson where they are doing some kind of reeducation so they are doing this like cognitive trainings and also some some kind of like reading and writing training too yeah and there is also a lot of like facilities where people with dyslexia are attending some kind of reeducation without the discord context so it's in a free time let's say as a kind of remedial teaching yeah if you make a doctor there are a lot of also yeah we already yeah we were already in contact with some people from from um Netherlands and Belgium but it didn't work out it's it's quite complicated process to put that all together and we are now focused on finishing 10 games and then we can maybe easily transfer easily yeah exactly i think we're gonna have to stop there thank you