 So we're here at the Computex 2018 here with the Silicon Labs. And who are you? Steven Lin from Taipei. And what's the latest with the, this is the Mighty Gecko chipset, right? Right. Arm Cortex M4? Right. So what's the latest with this? The latest feature of the Mighty Gecko is that it supports multiple protocol. And currently this, we call it dynamic multiple protocol. It runs Bluetooth and ZigBee in parallel. So it's one microcontroller, Arm Cortex M4, can do both? How is that possible? So you might take use of very powerful RTOS, so it can switch from BLE to ZigBee and or ZigBee to BLE very quickly. So it keeps changing from one to another. With no delay? Very fast, very small delay, like a few microseconds. And what is this Micrium RTOS? Is it one of the leaders in the RTOS world or? Yes, it was the number one in the commercial RTOS. It has famous RTOS called Micro-COS 2 and Micro-COS 3. It's not open source, no? No, no. So you collaborate with Micrium 2? We acquired it about two years ago. You acquired it, so it's your solution? Yes. Your optimization, everything is? Yes. And what are you demonstrating here? Okay, let me show you that how we can control it via ZigBee and Bluetooth. So now I can control it by ZigBee, I turn it off, I turn it down. And I can control it via the Bluetooth. I turn it off, I turn it down. I turn it off, I turn it down. At the same time, one chip? Yes, from the system, from the user point of view, you have no idea that it runs only one chip, but it supports two protocols perfectly. You're the only one who can do this? Yes. In the world? Nobody else can do. I believe we are the best. And Bluetooth is a big deal for IoT and ZigBee is a big deal for IoT. Which one is bigger? For IoT part, I think now the market size is about the same size, I guess. But sometimes ZigBee has a longer range? What is the ZigBee advantage compared to Bluetooth? Or the same range? Is the same spectrum? Or what is it? Long range is because ZigBee's data rate is smaller. So in terms of designs, you use a smaller data rate, you can achieve longer distance. But doesn't Bluetooth have a solution for this? Maybe Bluetooth 5 is lower bandwidth also? Yes, Bluetooth now has Bluetooth 5. It adds four types of distance. So now it increases from Bluetooth 4. It's because of the lower data rate. Right. It's the only reason it can go farther. Right, right. So is it as similar data rate as the ZigBee? Even smaller. Smaller than the ZigBee. But this is not Bluetooth 5, Devo? Is it Bluetooth 5 also? It supports Bluetooth 5, but it now runs the Bluetooth 4 stack. All right. So our main focus here is that you can switch from one to another. So maybe we can just check over here. Can you introduce over here? Some more Bluetooth 5 demos over here? Okay. Maybe just jump on the side here. So a whole bunch of Bluetooth 5, right? Okay. So we have all the Bluetooth 5 features. For example, the 2-Mega 5, the Coded 5, Long Range 5, and the 8-Times or the Valkyrie. What do you say the 5? The 4th and 5th have 3 features. The 2nd and 5th, all the features implemented. This is the same chipset? Yeah, the same chipset. Mighty Gecko. Is that the best chipset in Siliconabs? Or what is Mighty Gecko? Yes, yes. The best one. Yeah, the best one. The most important one. Yes, yes. We don't have more high performance than this. I think it's powerful enough for the IoT environment. It has Cortex M4 inside, and up to 1 MHz, Flash. 1 Mb Flash. So you do voice of a Bluetooth LE? Yes. Sensor into cloud connectivity of a Bluetooth? Yes, and with the 4th HomeKit revision 12, it's the newest standard from HomeKit. And the throughput? So Bluetooth 5 can do further distance, it can also do more bandwidth too, also? Yeah, it's about 2 times the bandwidth increased from Bluetooth 4. How did they do that? Why did they change? The fight area is changed. So now it can increase about 2 times speed. What is this over here? Is this a micro... Is it a memory LCD? Right, our device is here. This is our development board. This is the E-ink, no, memory LCD, yeah? Yeah. And this is development board for Bluetooth. What's the name of this development board? Oh, we call it wireless starter kit. What's the price? The whole price? Yeah. It's about 100. So this is controlling lights in like a mesh or...? Yeah, in a mesh. So they are all connected. Light, light, light. And this is a switch. I can control it from here. Turn it on and turn it off. I can also control it via our app. For example, I control it light C and turn it off. All right, so how many millions of products using silicon labs in the world? Or billions? You mean a year or...? How big is all the solutions? Several hundred million. 700 million devices? Are you using Mighty Gecko or some other solution? Mighty Gecko, how popular is Mighty Gecko so far? I think it's about... We have shipped it about 200 million or 300 million. 200 million already? For the last two, three, four years or how long? Right, right. Our wireless revenue, I mean the Mighty Gecko revenue is about 200 million, I mean the revenue. So the device volume is about half of that. Nice. And then you have a new solution that you're showing right here. You can introduce it. This is Z-Wave. It's from Sigma-T9. We just acquired Sigma-T9 in April. It's a sub-gearhertz protocol similar to ZigBing. How does it compare with ZigBing? Actually, we just focused on home. And actually, we go on a sub-gearhertz land. We enhance the inter-appliability function. So the specification for each device is a requirement. So I didn't quite get that. So how is Z-Wave better? Why are people interested in Z-Wave? Because they will go through the sub-gearhertz so it can get in maybe the further channel. It will be less noise compared with the 2.4 gigahertz. So it can go through the walls? It can go further away? Yes, go through the wall and further away because the frequency is lower. That means the energy is stronger. Of the oil, it's stronger. So we can deliver a longer distance. So let's say you have a house with three floors. You can have one base station, and then the whole house is OK. Yes, because we're a mess-in-the-walker. We're also a mess-in-the-walker. Each of the test devices, they can use the mesh power. So just only one of these? Then it's enough to do the mesh networking. So the AC mains, each AC mains devices can be the repeater. So it covers the ranges inside the house. And so what's the chip set in here? What's the chip set? Yeah. Currently we call the 500 series chip. What do you call it? 500 series chip. The Z-Wave 500 series chip. Now we are going to announce the 700 series chip in late of this year. What's the difference? The difference is that 700 series gets lower power consumption and longer range. It's perfect. People want lower power and longer range, right? Yeah. But what is the chip set? Is it ARM, Cortex, and? OK. Now in 500 series, it's 851 core. In the future, the 700 series, it will be ARM Cortex M4. M4? Yes. So how about consideration in doing like Cortex M33 or M23 or some of the maybe Cortex M7? There's no announcement about this yet, right? For from the Silicon Labs? But Gino, is there any ARM V8M announcements? Using the newest ARM technology? Yeah, it's not announced yet, right? We only talk about Cortex M4. Yeah, we have, in fact, we have sampled that in a few months. Yeah, we have. So that will be for some future product, right? Right, I might not be able to talk about that too much. Yeah, it's secret. So how is it going to be to have the Cortex M4 compared to the other one? It improves something? Like it can improve which one? The other one? 851, yeah. Because what is the efficiency improvements? And just using ARM as the same nanometers? Because the ARM needs less energy, so the power consumption can be lower. And also, the possession power is higher than 851. So is it the same nanometer? Same process? The process node? No, the ARM process is more advanced. Compared to 851. So maybe the chip will be smaller? Will be smaller? All right. So how popular is the solution right now? How many million product have this? The Z-Wave product has already 100 million devices in the market today. More than 100 million. With the 500 series? With staff from 100 series, 200 series, up to 500 series. And they all use the same architecture? Use the same architecture, same profile. So it's begot compatible. The 500 series today can control 100 series probably 10 years ago, more than 10 years ago devices. It's still working, still working. For all these sensors and lights and everything? Exactly. And how's the software difference between 500 and 700 series? Because Z-Wave is defining the application level profile. So application profile from the first day of the Z-Wave initiative up until now, they are all the same. They are using the same architecture. And are you the leader in the Z-Wave in the world? Well, for home control, IOT, yes. But some other companies do outside the home? Yeah, because Z-Wave is only focused on home. We are not doing any industry or any hospitalize, something like that. We only focus on home. That would be a different protocol or different? Different requirement. Different maybe Lora or something else. Lora or something else, yes. Maybe Silicon Labs has other product for this maybe? Yeah, also, yeah. It's cool.