 Welcome to Traffit TV, it's the Premier League show, there's been no Premier League action this weekend, it's been glorious, we're not talking about international football because that's why, but over on the last fan standing this week, there's been discussion in Premier League partnerships and who is the greatest of them all, so let's see what they've got to say. We've had together the combination, the goals that they scored, and not only that, we're talking about different people here, but Colin Yor did it all, won all the marbles in the same season. Now you might want to talk about how Cain and Son have got better statistics or something like that, but unless you do it together when it matters, there's no point, and Colin Yor did it together when it matters. One of the most underrated English strikers about in Andy Cole, he was doing it in Europe, then when you look at the teams that those boys tear the part, obviously in the Premier League they did it, but then you look in Europe as well, against the defences of Juventus, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, these boys were tearing them off. Mm, Yorch yn Cole. That was a good one. That was a fantastic partnership, Yorch yn Cole, because Manchester United had, obviously, sharing them, and they had four unbelievable strikers, but that partnership was just, that was the real partnership, and that was the go-to partnership. Obviously, a member of the semi-final interested in for the Champions League, it was unbelievable. What a game that was. Didn't they just score that goal in Barcelona? They were just on the same wavelength, they made things look so simple, and it was just a joy to watch, and it's something you don't really see in the Premier League too much anymore. We don't have partnerships because we don't play 4-4-2 or something like that. Obviously a lot of teams play 3 now, and maybe you can go, well, you say 2, I mean you look at some like Tottenham, I mean you talk to Sonny, Kane, and that kind of come on to that, but there are still partnerships, but these were real partnerships with, when football was slightly different. When I was a lad, it was all about playing 4-4-2, it was all about those partnerships, and that's always been a big thing in football, and it's quite sad actually that's gone out of football, but it has changed now, it has changed, but Yorch yn Cole, we're absolutely phenomenal, and a big part of why Manchester United got the treble at you. It was also obviously, I think Lee mentioned in the thing, there was Bayer Camping on me, they were brilliant, it was way because both of them almost dropped in and picked up all up, and Bayer Camping was like more of a number 10 on me, it started wide and was like a modern day strike. But what was interesting about that is, it obviously started out with Bayer Camping right, and they were a really good partnership as well, I mean anyone who played with Bayer Camping was going to be good, but it was unreal, and you're right they both wanted to pick it up deep, but I think Bayer Camping right was a proper number 9, and Bayer Camping was a proper number 10, and that's what helped start the evolution, and then on re came into it, and they got, that helped get more out of it. So to writing is sort of final years at Arsenal, but there's been brilliant, like Bayer's Lee and Cole, when Newcastle, when they came up, you know, Strachwell Airsea and Vellios, very underrated, very underrated, could have blossomed into something. This day together in Jules, who knows, who knows, could have talked about Evan winning all sorts back in the day, but you write those partnerships, they have kind of moved away because the way football has changed, and it is sad in a way, because it was always about the two strikers, getting goals, and I think some teams suffer because they don't have to, you put the ball in the net on a regular basis the way you're at it back in the day kind, I think the football, like you say, has evolved. More often than not, you have wide strikers as well. What's funny about it, you know, just before we move on to some more is, what's funny about it I think is, we talk now in terms of like the stats of the game and where to be in teams as, you know, XG and XA and all these kind of things, but football when it was, when we played 4-4-2, we had two up front. It's funny how the things we talk about now pressing is another big thing. It's like these things were invented, they just had new names now, and those things were there, and the thing going back to XG and XA is that when you're a partnership, it was normally like a big and a little wasn't it, or a 9 and a 10, just dropping off a little bit, is that strikers instinctively when they were in partnership knew where to run, so one would go near post and one would go far post, and that's the thing, it's like that's where you talk about XG and XA. And that thing of like, if you make certain runs and we put the ball in certain areas, you'll score goals, that's a big part of those stats now, the zones and stuff, and that used to be instinctive because one would go to the near post and one would go to the back post, and a winger would always know that if you put the ball into the box in one of those areas, one of those strikers would always be there and someone would always get an opportunity. And that's what's funny about football is like, it's tried to reinvent itself with using certain terms and saying, you know, but a lot of it is emperors new clothes, a lot of it is just recycling and stuff that we used to see when we were younger, when as a striker you would listen to any striker who played in the 80s and the 90s and they'll say to you as a partnership, you always knew where to run because you always knew where the other one was going to be, or if the other one had already made that run then you'd make a different one. And it would give wingers so many options. I mean, I don't know whether it's up there, but Sutton and Shearer made a part. What's dead interesting? We'll have a look at the graphic because these are the buy goals, buy stats, these are the best partnerships that we've been to. So, we've got obviously Cain and Sun at the number one, they broke the record last week, they're 37 goals, made three to the drog byr yn Lampad. Is that a re? It's not a part, I'm not having that. It's who made the goals, so this is the stats, Eguero and David Silver, he's again not a partnership but they made it. Obviously, Omri and Robert Pires, so interest in that Pires and Omri made more goals for each other, Darren Anderton and Teddy Shearingham. See a lot of them, I'll dispute a few of them because they are not partnerships. What they are is a lot of them show how we moved away from 4-4-2, but they are not partnerships. No, that's a slightly separate, I think like Cain and Sun because they play in a three, I think you could argue that you're a partnership. But going back to what I was just saying, there was someone like Blackbeam, Blackbeam under league by having two strikers who were good in the air and two wingers who would put the ball in certain areas. And that was a partnership and you might see to me that's a proper partnership because those forwards knew where to be and knew where the other one was going to be. And there are two wingers who put the balls into the box and it meant that you always had someone in the right areas. That's a partnership to me, doesn't matter who crossed it. Crossing is part of the game, it's somebody's job to do that. That to me is not like, I wouldn't applaud someone for putting a cross into the box. I think the centre forwards and this is obviously, some stats can't really show this is that a true partnership is shouldn't be who passed the other one. It's who makes the runs, it's getting deeper into it and I do think that, I mean some of them, they're nonsense, Teddy Shearingham. No, but they're goals are creative. No, it's the most goals created and that's why people are. Well yeah, when we talk about partnerships and obviously as Adam was saying there, like Joach and Cole, that was a proper partnership. Sharing sun like you said, you know we go back even before the Premier League, Fredd and whatever and like Heath and Sharpe and Lynyddir and Sharpe and then Grey. Because it's hard to define isn't it? Because Teddy Shearingham might be scoring the goals there, I find it. But Les Ferdinand's making the alternative run and it's all those things that you can't, that they're like really basic stats. But if you went deeper into that, you'd find out that Les Ferdinand made a decoy run. Or when Ferdinand and Sharpe put together a new castle, same thing again, cross, cross, cross. You know, Keith Gillespie on one side. Do you know that on the other side? And you know you keep putting that ball in the box, it's either going to be Ferdinand or Shearingham. And because there's one taking a defender away and the other one's got, hey, that's a partnership to me. It's not who put the ball in the box, it's that stage job. When you think you're a partnership there is linking up with your state partner isn't it? It's like you two would go out on the pitch and be like, we're doing this today. I always played in the two or whatever. You'd be like, I'm with, we're these. You know, I'll go where you pressed it on all of that. And it's all the intangible stuff, the stuff that isn't coming down on stats and going really linked with him and all that. And that is, we have moved away from that. Because obviously, if you look at it, like Manai and Sally for Liverpool have got a lot of goals, haven't they? But people wouldn't say they're a partnership. They're in a front three. For me, no pulse people out. For me, no does arguably the most important job at times for them. And yet he wouldn't be considered. It is mad the way football has changed. And now, yeah, twos have become threes or just one. But if you're talking about statistics, then Sun and Kane are the best. What's good about that is though, they are pretty much nearly a proper partnership. So that's fit. There's like, what's good about that is that you've got the modern thing of, you know, Kane likes dropping deep or Sun likes dropping deep. But also they are both forward. So it isn't that thing of like, and it and throwing crosses into the box and Sally saying, that's nonsense that. Like that's a prop. So there's a genuine evolution there of a real partnership. Sometimes I don't know who plays it too. But that is a real evolution. But you look more than a witness like, is the goals they've got then as a partner. Cos that's how I always looked at a partnership. Like a partnership with me and you were up front. I've got 20. You've got 20 if you're like, what a partnership. But you've just said it there, like Cole, and you know, if you go back to, you know, Coles, what he did at Manchester United. And that partnership was, they were always scoring goals, but they were always, you know, moving, moving into different space to allow the other one. And then, you know, you've got Beckham on one side and you've got Giggs on the other. And it's the way that they knew instinctively. They weren't both big fellas, but they did score a lot of head of goals. But it meant Beckham and Giggs always had a target because one would run post, one would pull off and then Scheringham would come on and he'd, what Scheringham was brilliant at was Scheringham actually didn't engage the space. He stayed in the space. He let other people move and he stayed and then people learned his game. And that to me is a real partnership. That to me is, that to me is something that's gone out of the game and I understand why tactics have changed. But that old fashioned real partnership of knowing where someone else is going to be instinctively is was a real, you know, something that was around in football for 50, 60 years. It's only gone out of the game in the last 10, 15 years. It was something that always, as we were growing, was such a big. I mean, something still, I mean, Burnley had like bands and Wolp didn't he fit, you know, in the 4-4-2 and Southampton play 4-4-2. So, you know, you'd look for a partnership there, Adams and Brozier or Adams and Armstrong. She said that space one is probably the most modern one out of it all. You know, it still, it still holds onto the traditions, but obviously it's changed as well. But then at the same time, what's interesting is, you know, that some of those, some of those graphic, put that graphic back on 4, isn't it? You know, Chelsea, successful, city successful, Tyrion, Ray Perez, yeah, you know, the space one. The two space ones are not successful. That's what's interesting. One's top, one's fifth. There's no success there, which is really interesting. The other three, of course, did have success. But it's just, that's an interesting part. Lampard, isn't it? No, no, but it, but we know, we know that that's the way they play. They played one upfront. Lampard was the free role. But it's not. But it's just interesting that the both space ones never got gained any success from it. So, yeah, very interesting. I think, and obviously from that then, when you look at it like that, the game has moved on. But Harry Kane, who is top there, him and some, he's developed unbelievably well, hasn't he? Yeah. And another, another discussion point on this week's last fan standing list. Who's the better England striker? Harry Kane or Wayne Rooney? And Harry Kane is exceptional. He really is. He's brilliant. He's developed later than Wayne Rooney. He's had a different, different path to get to the top. But he's developed his own game, dropping him, picking a ball up, as well as scoring goals, picking people off. Wayne Rooney, more natural for me, on the zone, from 16, you know, doing it. So I would, I pan, he's obviously England's all-time record, goal scorer Manchester United's all-time record. But he won't be full on the goal scorer. Well, at this moment, that's a time of discussion. But he won't be full on the scorer. Yes. But I just think, for me personally, I think Rooney's a better player. But I think Harry Kane's a better England player. I do personally. I think he's a better England player. I think he scored more important goals than Rooney did. Rooney barely scored past his first Euros in a tournament. It never clicked for him, mostly because of injuries. But it never really clicked for him. He's an important player. I don't think he's the only leading goal scorer, but Kane will take that off him. And I just think Kane plays in a better England team, as well. It's a better England team. And also, do you think what Kane is? Kane plays the same position he plays for his club that he does for his country. Rooney never. Rooney played up front for England, and then went and played for Man United everywhere. And I think he thinks the better footballer. Well, Rooney, Rooney's more natural talent, much better. But I think this can augment just like the same with Messi and Ronaldo. Ronaldo is a much better international player than Messi is, but Messi is just a better player, far as I'm concerned. But Ronaldo is a better international player. Because when it comes to the crunch, when you've got those two games or that tournament, Ronaldo is always stepped up. Messi hasn't quite because Messi is relies, not relies, but he brings other people into the game. And he hasn't always had that arising, Tina, where Ronaldo is the type of fellow who has got the ego and the presence to step up at that one moment. And that might just be an amazing header of a set piece or a penalty. So I didn't listen. For me, Rooney is much better footballer, but for England, I think Kane will get that record. And listen, what I would say about Kane is we're going into the World Cup and England have got a genuine chance of winning the World Cup. They're not favourites, but I think they've got a genuine chance. And like the Euros, it's Harry Kane. And look at the Euros, the way in the Euros where Harry Kane didn't start well, didn't look fit, played his way into the tournament and started scoring goals. By the end, it was an important figure. And I don't think Wayne Rooney ever quite did that. Wayne Rooney's the injuries he took into tournaments, never allowed them and then he's seen what the documentary about him. He gets angry, gets frustrated, he does something stupid because his body's not made to be doing what he wants to do. I just think Kane's going into his peak in a World Cup this year and people genuinely will go, you can win as the World Cup. I don't think Wayne Rooney passed maybe his first World Cup 2006. I don't think anyone after that really thought Wayne Rooney was going to win a World Cup for England because they don't think he had the people around them to do that. Pass 2006. I think 2006 they were all in the peak. I think 2010 they were all not on the wane, but just as a team it was a bit more of a transition. They were coming out of that golden generation. 2014 they didn't get up the grief to 2014. In 2010 we beat them didn't we, when Lampard had the shot and it went over the line, but they ended up getting me 4-1. I think Rooney had to carry a lot of very, very average players. Wayne's Kane's got a good team around them and of course that's going to make you a better player. And Rooney just, as I say, every tournament something wasn't quite right and yet his first tournament, what could have been? 2004 in the Euros. It's a good point Kane, me well be at that level. Me well be the one who actually does something for England where Wayne didn't. I remember having this kind of discussion over Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen and it was like who would you rather have in your England team. And it was Michael Owen, but who would you rather have in your Premier League team was Robbie Fowler because Fowler was the better player. Left foot better finish him on that. Lister and pace and was clinical, but for England really good where Fowler was one a bit like Ian Wright another one a bit like that. When he played for England not quite the same, but the club level is devastating. And yeah maybe. And he was like Leighton Baines? Yeah, very much like Leighton Baines, but maybe that's what it is, isn't it? That you just need a little slightly different. I'm Stephen Gerard, what an unbelievable footballer. Paul Scholes, unbelievable footballers, Premier League, just different players. There's a lot of that that comes down to the managers and the press and people having the bottle to play the team they want to play. Because what has happened in the last three or four years, no it's like five years now isn't it? Gareth Southgate has got the bollocks to play the team he wants, to drop who he wants, to pick who he wants. Doesn't give a monkey's, we've seen that this week England have played people bool Manly McGuire after the games come out and on. What he is doing? This is supposed to be. We've worked really hard to change this England set up so that it's about getting the most out of these young lads, blocking all the, getting rid of all, making sure all the people in the media are not going to come in and cause trouble. And usually come in the match booling one of the players who scored really important goals in well cups and stuff. And I think that's massively important to get that, so the players are like, this fella, I want to play for him, I want to play for him. The whole thing has changed for England where people go, yeah I actually don't mind this England scene now. Lads who've seen all good lads and I think that's a big part of it whereas previously the press had too much power and they got on the backs of all the managers and then the managers were like, if I don't pick him and then you had all the clicks man United Liverpool, Chelsea. Whereas Southgate seems to have sorted all that out. And I think that's why he's got to a semi-fanner well cup and a fan of the Euros because he's really got people together, you know. So, can we win it and cut that? No, they're all too pale. They're going to disinstead them, should be fine. I know, but that's fun. They're going to disinstead them. Saying that though, there aren't too many changes. No. So they should be alright. That is well cup. That just leave the changes at home. Honestly, it wouldn't last five minutes. Telling you now. I'm not going now. I'm going to stay away. Listen, I went to Vegas nearly killed me. That was nothing to do with what happens in Vegas. That desert landscape, nothing to change you. This will be your vampire. Okay, on that note, let's leave it there. There you go. I don't know what you think is the best partnership. But if anyone out there wants to pay for us to go to Qatar as part of any kind of market nor sponsorship deal, I will slap on the factor 100. The 150. You know, I'll go to all and outs, factor 50. Qatar I'm thinking maybe up more 100. Double up, double up, double down. So make sure you check out the rest of that video. The link is in the description. Leave a comment on the best fitter website there with your thoughts on the best partnership and all of that in Canningham when they're well cup. There you go. Make sure you give the video a thumbs up. 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