 Right, let's get into it. John Itinger was in the news daily yesterday, talking a little bit about his time at the club. He said it was the pinnacle of his career. I can't believe that. I think he just loved playing for us, didn't he? Loved the Premier League. I think he had a decent relationship with the fans, didn't he? He did till late on to one particular moment at home against Backpool. It's just such a challenge. The problem with John Itinger was that there were two problems with him for me. He was very much missold. When he signed, everyone talked about him coming as a right back. He was never a right back. Everyone was like, oh, we're getting this right back and it's going to be amazing. He was never going to be a right back. We really should have played three at the back because we had the best, perfect three. And the perfect wingbacks. Perfect three and perfect wingbacks. We had speed with Distan, a ball player with him and Jags a property defender and two perfect wingbacks. But he also came across as a foul hard man. I think if he hadn't come across as that sort of hard man, that if you don't act tough to act hard, then no one thinks you're going to be like that. And when you jump out of challenges, people will give you the even. But Graffith don't that? But I think at the end of Graffith and now, he stopped being that hard man and just started playing football. And people just went, yeah, that's what he is. Forget all the nonsense and the shenanigans. You know what? I think he was quite good for us. I thought he was at one stage, he was one of us. He was our best sense. What have you got played? He was brilliant. He was absolutely brilliant, but there was other times. In Miffield, he wasn't great when he was in Miffield at times because if it was like him in Orsman, there was no paystay, so he was shown up. But I'd really like it. Let me ask you a question. Why did we buy him? Because Lescott had gone and we had a pot of money and he was available. Moise liked him, didn't he? If you remember, he played at Portsmouth. You did that right back? That right back. We beat the Mondill. It's a hard score. He played the longboard in the end of the hard score. We won Mondill. And he was like, all right, but he didn't have any paystay to play it right back. So, you've right, he came in as some people think and he was one thing and he wasn't. He was a centre back. He was a ball playing centre back. I know he'd played a full back for Ajax, but he'd also played a centre back for Ajax. So, it's all very relevant that flexibility to be able to go, oh yeah, I can fill in for you. But if people think you are coming into a position, but that you're only actually filling in in that position, straight away people are going to go, you're not very good at all. What have we bought here? Because don't forget he'd come in for about five million quid at the time when we didn't have a lot of money. So that was a lot of money. And also at the time it seemed like we'd bent over backwards for him. Like we'd changed our weight structure and things like that. We'd paid for him. We got a plane and flew him over the North Sea and all that, getting him racing to sign on time. And he had a jaglet, a jageron and all that when he came. But I like them. I like them. I think you'd like to think at times you overplayed that hard. Man, think what you didn't need to do. It's fine standing up to people and putting tackles in. But you've got to love the assy call moment. If you don't love the assy call moment and shoot out at Stanford Bridge, I mean that was boss walk-up. Shoven and call misses. I think it's one of those plays that I really wanted to like.