 is why in the morning you can find us at WhiteFive on Facebook, White254 channel on Twitter. Hashtag is why in the morning we're WCW. And I keep repeating the handles of our pages because we have things going on and really, really like to hear your thoughts. But in studio with us is one Sylvia, one boy. She is basically a superhero. She'll refuse, but she's just basically a superhero. And we're gonna hear a little bit about her and her story. Are you ready? I don't think you're ready. I was not ready. I was briefed, but I was not ready. But anyway, good morning, Sylvia. Good morning. How are you? I'm very well, thanks. Would you like to say hello to your people first? Hi, everyone. Yeah, thank you for having me here. If we wanted to reach out to you because you'll want to reach out to us once we're done. But if we wanted to do so, how can we find you? Well, you can find me on Facebook, on the Sylvia, one boy. Or Twitter, Sylvia, one boy. Yes, and Starwe Wellness on Facebook. What is Starwe Wellness? Starwe Wellness is a counseling center that my friend and I, Jo-Ky, have founded where we just deal with counseling, individual counseling, couple counseling, premarital. We discuss on loss and grief, and anything just about an individual and a family. Is counseling why you seem so polite and sweet? Amma, you've just always been like this all your life. Because me and Kanga don't care at first glance. You look so calm and such a nice person to be around. Wow, thank you for the call. Is it the counseling? No, it's not the counseling. It's always been like this. I've not always been a counselor. I've actually been in counseling the last two years. Basically, I'm a mom, I've been a mom, and a business person. Maybe it's my personality. Maybe. You look like such a smiley. Like, if you were friends in high school, you'd look like we're that smiley because you don't smile at all. Yeah. Anyway, so entrepreneurship, you listen much more to Michelle Lashira on Tuesday. Yeah, but so what we want to know maybe is how you started the wellness center, maybe why, and was it a personal experience that got you into counseling in the first place? Yes, it's a personal experience. Eight years ago, almost eight years ago, we were blessed with our second born, Jayden. And three weeks after birth, normal birth, we had to do a heart surgery. And we had been told it's gonna be a simple surgery. You know, close heart surgery and we'll have our baby back home. And unfortunately, after the surgery, two days later, Jayden passed on. I'm sorry. And I had never thought of losing a baby. It sounds crazy. Even when I say it, I never knew people can lose a baby. I knew death happens to other people. When they've lived. When they've lived, not a baby. You know, it was like almost obvious. Get pregnant, go give birth, and go home with your baby and live life. But Jayden passed on after three weeks. And that was the beginning of my loss and grief journey. You know, and it's like, you put a callebo here, you know, bereaved mom and therefore I went through my loss. I had a two-year-old at the time. My daughter was two years old and we all grieved differently. It was just a journey. You're grieving Jayden, but everybody's doing it differently. And therefore, just cropling through the dark, I went for counseling a bit and that's where I think my interest got just to help other people who are struggling in the same journey. Because loss is a journey. There's no destination. How are you? How are you? How are you? How long has it been since you last healed all wounds? It's just come? Time doesn't heal all wounds, but you get to learn how to cope. Because I remember when I lost my baby, I was so desperate to see somebody who was two years ahead of me. I was looking for a lady who has gone through it, who has lost hope. And amazingly, my mom got ladies and she didn't know about their stories. But these women came, they were like my mom's age and they were saying, I lost her baby 11 years ago, 20, a few years ago. And I was like, okay, there is hope. There is loss, but there is hope because these women have gone ahead to get other babies or maybe not, but who are going to survive. No, no. So that's what gave me hope, yeah. I imagine it must be very difficult to suffer a loss internally. You have a whole family that you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, everything is still going on. People are still going to get hungry. Someone is still going to call you mommy. Someone is still going to call your wife. So you still have to function. And then maybe let's say, you're not to eat down. When you're going to break, I'm going to say, I'm going to tell you stories. You're not to turn up when you make up. Why are you crying? Three weeks, aye, at all. I'm going to tell you my name. How did you handle external, I want to call it bashing, but also maybe someone's ignorance in a car too, I don't care, I don't care. Compassion does not grow in trees. I've come to learn that. Sometimes compassion, you have to go through some things yourself and then like, oh, okay, this is what you're supposed to do. This is how you're supposed to deal with me. And if you don't know what to do, just don't do anything. Silence is very nice also, guys. But tell me, how did you cope with that? Wow, you're talking like you're talking from experience. My friends, these streets have taught me things. Aye. Wow, you've spoken like, you know, very deeply because it's true. Until you go through something, you don't notice. I normally have this analogy, okona, if you're told about a certain type of a car, you know, then you start seeing that car. We only get sensitive when you've gone through something, you know. So like, when people are telling you, and they did tell me and my husband, by the way, you guys are young. You know, you'll get twins, you know. And at that time, I'm not hurt because, excuse me, I have just lost a baby. Don't start telling me about how God will give me another baby. This one, it doesn't matter how many babies I get after that. But later on, after I did counseling, I realized what we're going to hurt deliberately. They just don't know. They just don't know. You know, they just really don't know. And even if they don't know, ok, we've buried the baby and what people have moved on with their lives. How Kumbuki or Sylvia has lost a baby, let's comfort her. It's not intentional because life moves on. So see what we're going to do. It's just how life is. But we really need to be sensitive. But we can only be sensitive when we've gone through it. Because we're Kumbuka, the laser wards in Lekwambia. I always remember there's a cousin of mine who lost the dad. I had not gone through personal loss. And she was in a grave. Later on, she said, it is well. And she shouted back at me. You know, it is not well. And I was like, I think I was just saying it is well. Just not comfort. But later on, after the counseling, she said, by the way, it's not right to tell somebody it is well. It is not well. I have lost a baby. I've lost a father. You know. Yeah. She said, it's not right to tell somebody it is well. But it's ok. Yeah, it's ok. Your thought is, hmmm. It's ok. She said it's ok. Angel. Your angel. But yeah, it's traumatising. I hear people say, the loss of a parent and loss of a child are one of the deepest losses. You know, it's so painful. But here it's a great learning. During our, during the funeral of our baby, they passed at that time preaching. The only thing I remember, but they had to record at the funeral. But she said, Sylvia, Sylvia and Yohabi, they are treasures in the dark. You will get them. What are you saying? I've just lost my baby. My daughter has lost her brother. You know. But do you know, what eight years down the line, here I am and I have, we've been able to talk to other people. See, it's not the same. It's not the same. Don't ever assume my loss because I lost the baby and you lost the baby. It should be the same. No, it can't be. But just giving hope and being careful what will grieve differently. You know. See, it's not the same. I've lost a common baby. Yeah, we've lost our baby. Let's cry for our baby. But you see, our personalities are different. I've lost my baby. You know, my hubby is more extrovert. I've lost my baby. I wanted to be alone and cry for my baby. But my husband wants to be around people. So you know later, because when you move down, you didn't miss a baby as much. But that's not true. Maybe that's his way of dealing. So you see, it brings conflict. So through our experience, to get another couple among them, give them a potato somebody. So by the way, please, warning number one, respect how each of you grieve. This is just something I've watched in the movies. And once a couple has a loss like that, it either brings them together or you're not going to divorce. You're not going to divorce. How did you learn? Did you go for counseling together? Did you go for it separately? You're not going to divorce me. And you know, it doesn't matter how long... I'd like to imagine, it doesn't matter how long you've been married. But loss is loss, you know. And you're experiencing it together for the first time. And also another relationship I've had with Congelay and Mungo. Because they asked me, if I'm going to marry Mungo, I'm going to get married. The question is, so you said you're good. You said you're good all the time. Is this all the time? I'm not breaking up. Are you on COVID-19 leave? Like things like that. I had so many questions. Before I came back to my senses and okay, it is what it is. But I had questions. So how did you deal with the two? Okay. So I vividly remember to look when I do me with my husband, your part here, but now, me and Lialia, now where, you know, you look like you're not crying. Yeah? I remember when I was driving, and I said, by the way, God, we are Christians. By the way, God, only create my husband, only create my daughter, and you created me. Now, with my loss, it'll happen. We are all different. I'm not a superwoman. See as he manage, and see as he manage, how I want when you leave me part here. You know, because I'm hurting, and I can jump here, by the way, I will go for counseling. I wanted my husband, even up to today. It's a fantasy. You know, at the old, to turn the camera on and say I'm in movies, to turn the camera on and say I'm in counseling, never happens. But I always remember my husband telling me, okay, under counseling, to turn the camera on and say, because my husband is me, who seemed to be very wounded. Yeah? So I went for counseling, but for me, I didn't force him to go. And for sure, I was a better person, because I surrendered to the fact that, our daughter, God and our daughter, yes, we are family, but I can't heal your pain. You know, I can only work with you. So when I realized, yes, he saved my daughter, who was like two. She had just met her brother and loved her brother so much. How do I even take it down to her level, that way? Sasa, you've lost baby boy. You know, how do I take it to my husband that you've lost a son, your first son? You understand? When I was in Africa. Yeah? When I was in Africa, and now I have two children, I was in Pili, and you know, you have, I remember when in hospital, when the baby was born, we had my dad in law, my husband and the boy. Three generations. So you can see the dreams. And everybody is going through loss. So for me, I went for counseling. I went for support groups. This is our mama when you are married. They've lost, because I went to Facebook, looked for support groups because we are different. Again, go back to our personalities. My husband had his own way of dealing with it. He could work one-on-one with somebody and also now I'll go and take her with, our couples group has many. So they would hang out together, check out on him, evil. So he had at least a group that was checking out on him. So I hope you're in a jibo. So you're in a jibo. So you're in a jibo. Loss comes closely with our spirituality. We all get disappointed. Me, I have blogged about it. I think, fresh, when I was blogging, someone called me and asked me, I was in a situation where you just saw what happened to me. Are you trying to get my attention? Are you trying to teach me trust? No, no, no. I don't want to get to me a different route. No, no. But we all struggle with God. Now, let me ask you a question. Please ask those questions. Do you know how strong God is? Me, I was of God. I've been born again for so long. I will hold on to you like a fool, but I'm hard. You're the constant. You know, that was, that's what I went, I went out to Keswick. I was in the woods. I always remember, the world is moving. I don't know, I don't want to move very fast. I have just, we buried the baby, I think on a Tuesday or something. I went and I come on Thursday Eve. I went to buy a Bible. You know, just to, you don't want God to say to me, because he said I'm strong, I'm strong. You know, so me, I keep telling people, be upset at God. He can handle it. But don't go away from God, for me. That is one of the things in a little Shikilia. But see at it all, it was rocky, you know, because we are both hurting people. We've never lost a child to copy and I'm doing it again. To corner family members, to balance. You know, your friends are saying the wrong things. I don't know if it's true or not. You know, there are so many things that happen when loss happens. It's not just the loss. Your friend who you thought to take care of her. Missing. You know, but the people who you didn't think would be with you, you know, and I said, I still don't want to be with you. I want you to close. Now God is with me. He's with me. Yeah, so so many things happen. I told you, sweet, I don't want to be with you. And you guys are two, I'm here to teach you. I would hide, guys. Well, you know, I don't want to be with you. And I don't want to be with you. Get out of here. You clearly. Anyway, so I wanted to bring out her experience so to understand she knows what she's talking about. Because again, grief, it's very strange. I love grief. Say it to me, at the line, I'm a cuckoo at BTV. At the home, I know my, he came to me and said, there are days at a month, I said, hey, yo, ask mother to go and go, By the way, I nearly ended up going home. Then for like a few hours, we're in feelings. And of course, one day, I went to the studio and I said, it's okay, okay, it's all right. Let's just move on swiftly. Hashtag is one in the morning. Hi, Zuru. Hi, Zuru. So yesterday, and I'm only repeating this topic because it's a test in morning on Twitter. And it's slapped a bit different when I heard it from someone. So we're talking about suicide rates in the country. And how they're gradually increasing, you know. And then suddenly, one of the age bracket flanning Kaya Kampo, Kampo Evi, young men, you know. They're prime of stamina. So it's a little bit different. On the other hand, stamina is the resources I have. I'm not sure if it's the resources that are necessary for stamina to decrease. I don't know if it's going to decrease or not. Why? Anyway, so we asked a couple of questions and we got, I want to say, several responses. I don't know if that's true, but I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. In fact, boy child at two years old knows he's not supposed to cry. Ever. At a single hour, to ever do. So what kind of pressure are we putting them on, you know. And then someone later came on on our Twitter page and if you don't believe me, go check it out at W5Four channel on Twitter. He said, you know what, Phil? Just the other way. Just last week, I was thinking about ending my life. Just last week. And he go, wait! Yeah, and we talked to you just direct, direct, direct. Kumbi, you also thinking about the same thing. He said, yeah, I want to take my life last week, but it's just because of my friends. They encouraged me and told me. And they're like, yeah, but I'm going through hell inside. So you are gonna profile picture smart. I'm a smile. So when you check, you've also signed your profile picture. But meanwhile, someone is dying on the inside. How do we deal with that? Wow, it's true. It's really true that young men and men are going through a lot. Nivelatu, our culture in Moambia, don't cry, man up, you know. But at the end of the day, I want to be human. You know, we're gonna have the same pressures or even more. So for me, society, as a mom to a boy, now we are blessed with a boy. He's six years old. And Moambia Lea, by the way, Lea, you know, sometimes don't have, he's too emotional. I say, no, cry, let it out. And when you've heard it, Nisawa, you know, because this boy grew up in our homes and we are the same ones who told them, don't cry, be a man, be strong, stop being a weakling. I love who now your child takes their life away because they were not allowed to express themselves. As I said, I'm born again. Our God is a God of expression. I talk to them, they are clouds. They are gray, you know, they have the skies blue. They are many, like you say, my life is heavy. And unfortunately, social media in Moambia, you put a smile and you're hurting. The thing is, we need to face our devils. You know, because what you say, what you do about it, that's your problem. Because for how long will we fake it? When do you know how hard? You know, let's reach out for help. You know, because yes, me, I might say, ah, we're all called strong. That guy, I come to you, you're the strong one. The next time you're the one who's taken your life away because you're not open and vulnerable. Because above what do you gain, by the way? What does it take? Why don't you take the risk to say, by the way, guys, I'm not okay. Being not okay today doesn't mean you're breaking apart. It just means you need some help or you need somebody to work with you. So, I think we need to take personal responsibility. Let's blame culture, let me bring up the boys. But also the boys need to realize, by the way, I'm human. How does it work out for me? How can I express e-pain? I can't do anything. I can't do anything. I can't do anything. I can't draw. I can't reach out to another man, an older guy. You know, or somebody and say, by the way, I'm struggling. I'm even feeling life is hopeless because that is the season of COVID. Things are very hard, you know? And it's not just for young people. It's for everybody. Because my identity, you know, many jammers, they identify with work. The God I'm going to create is about work. So, Q-Lism, to what do you do? I am a producer and I'm a manager, and, you know, since I was born, it's like your world is over. You know, who is Sylvia beyond being a counselor? Who is Sylvia beyond being a mother and a wife? We need to get greater purpose. So that I was born to be a woman, doesn't make me less me. But many of us, to my part identity, who are to associate with kids. That's why Facebook, I was born to, but maybe they're abusing me. To get a home, like in Facebook, we are the super couple. That's so heartbreaking, okay? It's very... It's a way how do you value, single? Then, now you commit suicide. We go like, hi, Sylvia is so Sylvia's, with her hubby up over there, and then it's like, you know, yeah. So we need to be real with ourselves. Just say, by the way, I'm human. I'm working progress. I have struggles, you know, even for the young men. Yeah. Why are you disturbing? Sure, a shining, amidst COVID-19. Self-evaluate, just say, are you okay? Are you all right? Bo, what's going on? Did you wake up okay? I love you, Pia. I also think that this concept here, social media, I'm really glad you brought it up. We do things for the gram, I'm saying. There's no school that doesn't know how to make a picture clear. I'm at home. But, Claude, Claude, now, you're going to put a face-bit for the gods, man, say, how many selfies will I bless you with, my friend, how many? But that doesn't mean that I am always okay. I keep telling people, just because I'm on TV, just because my job requires me to have some, some level of discipline. Itabiditu ni me changamka, whether I want to or not. I must smile and I must mean it, okay? That's what my job description says about me. But that doesn't mean I'm always okay. Just because, all right? And, and, o kini angalea me me, some indio, I say you need to, like, kini vala na kua gana life, wow, I go kua TV, she's always happy, no. Then you think they're, oh my God, I'm the only one going through these things. Oh my God, what's going to, bro, kilam to kuna mashita zake o kuitan, everyone, whether they're dressed nice, nice, whether they're not dressed nice, however una, pimaam to kilam to kuna mashita zake, thank you. Now, back to the wellness center. How, who are you really reaching out to? What is your age bracket? Is it young parents? Is it a bit more experienced parents? Is because also you've told me about pre-marital counseling. Tell me what's, can I ask what's your favorite age bracket? Ni grup gani na kupatei le, ni miss idea wa. By the way, Val, oku ja okuleo, I was very excited. Yeah? Yeah, because I really like young people. You know why? Because to kua young, hatu kua na watua kutu guide. You know, so to link your relationships for the sake of kua ingia. You know? So I really love young people because young people are teachable and they're just starting their lives and they're the future. So to not penda young people, kua ambe, why we're saying pre-marital and even university apu because your age nia kua ingia into relationships, you're moving away from your parents and you're starting to identify with your peers na kua ingia intimate relationships. And guess what? Most of the issues that come to counseling are relational. You're having an issue with how you value yourself or how your hub, your wife, ana kua ingalia, ama wa toto. But if you yourself, you're not ok. You learnt our relationship broken. What are the results that we talk of from there? Hmm. Eh? Nime kutja na mash da zango wa efe wa kutja na zago sa zina mix tuwa pundanishwa. Exactly. You know, and when I got married, nkuen kipiria, happiness. Oh ho! Honeymoon face. All the way. Oh my God. You know? No, no eh? I'll wake up every morning and you're smiling and you're perfect. You know, make me happy. You know, but I am human and I have my struggles and as long I need to work on my struggles. You know? So, we love Joqui and I. We love young people because that is the place kut liza val val. Nkuen gaya relationship, ok. Who is val? Away from that man. Val ni nani? Dia, who are you? What do you like? What don't you like? What are your values, val? Una leta nini kua yo relationship. Una benefit nini kua yo relationship. Many people don't stop. You just think other guy looks cute, handsome or that kachik. She's beautiful. A mebeba. But at a beba all her life. Taha, whoo! Tuonga ze voli mama mukosa wa maali wai. Aye, good morning. Are you ok? You know, things change. So if I get married to you, get into a relationship with you just because of how you look. Things change, my dear. Ask my husband. We've been married for 12 years. Kale ka flat, ta mi ama ka waistline ka. Three babies later, we are trying, but really things change. Na, ni me kuja na 28. Tu seme, I've gone married at 28 years. Ni me kuja na 28 years of experience. Vile, things used to be done in our home. Vile have been brought up. Naya me leta zaki. Tu me leta apa. But we are creating our new family. But we are not aware. Si tu nafkiria, let me give you an example, a funny one. Vile, me I was taught how to cook skuma. Si tu kuatuki steam. What an iku hampie. So, tu kuatuki steam. So we are newly married and my husband comes home. Ni me pikaugali na skuma. A fungwa skuma iwi anashanga. What is this? Na mi am going like, I've cooked. Is there any other way? So kume kunatku fry ni ni like that. But you see, mi ne me kam tu vile ni li fungwa. But my husband kuna vile ame fungwa. So in new family, tu ta create aji. So I took it very ni ni. I was very offended. Bona you're discriminating. Why are you looking down upon my food? So nona, saizoni doh me. I don't check at all because atakuna jokuit kuwa daughter of mumbi. Aki sometimes see fair in life. Un ne zok kuna have conversation vizuri na mumbu tu vene minanok pika. From now on, na tuonga jizupu. Sa sanane me sima tuonga jizupu. Just because I come from this part of the... Why? It's okay. I feel you. I put them on face. So what I'm just saying is, Sisi, at Star We Wellness, we see the entire family. We see individuals. We see couples. We love children and adolescents. You know, loss and grief. Everybody. But basically, we also like young people. Because when you start it right, there is future for your relationships. You know, you start it out and then you pass on the values to your children. God willing, kipata wa toi, minata ka kuwa build. Children are not... They just don't grow like weeds. Kuna vile wana grow ka weeds. But come on, atakum, to empower, you have to be intentional. Umeans ako zi by the show, by saying, I'm a super mom. I'm not a super mom. We are intentional. Intentional in a manisha una sacrifice. My peers wako fa, career-wise. You know, but I had to take a back seat. Nikanza biashara, and I can go with my kids to my place of work. So that I can bond with my kids. So that I can, you know, sizing dyo nanzaku pick up on my career because our daughter is 10, the boy is 6. Uno ona? Tokubu wa ii mamata wukai. Nikan du, nanda kuwanza waka. Disclose 8, wile sinu wa ze, laki nini kuwa. No, all I'm saying is your experience and the way you look at it. Like this, you look so young. It's in the jeans, my mom. Okay, good black though, don't crack. Okay, I know we can go on for days, re-conversation, nanda kuwata. But I'd like to finish up with the fact that there have been a lot of teenage pregnancies that we know of. Yes. So do you want to count on that? I don't know, but I escaped on the ground. We had someone from Kibrak. He calls himself Mr. Pads. Mr. Pads, I come, I come and say, yeah, he has this initiative where he goes around and his dream is to have a place where, when he took onto himself, and he's under money in dispense, so he also has a dream for pads and all that. I know. Nice. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about teenage pregnancies. And COVID-19 has told us to stay at home. COVID-19 has told us to close our whole schools. So now we are trying to learn from home, but also we're very imbalanced with third world country. And I want to say only the elite few can benefit from online learning because that is our smartphones or devices a lot of us don't have, you know. And I think that's a good thing to say. A lot of us don't have, you know. And so this is a laptop that I promised you that I'd lend a weapon, but let's not talk about that. So how do we, first of all, how do we talk to our teenage girls? My cousin just turned 13 actually. So how do we talk to our teenage girls? And how do we talk to the ones who've already now gotten pregnant? Because they say, oh, you've ruined your life. Okay, Miss Yonika, I've ruined life, but I'm going to play. And that's a big deal. But how do we talk to them after that? Okay. I'll answer that. But for these teen pregnancies to happen, it takes two to tango. So to me highlight sana, who's a teen pregnancies and it's okay, Ziko. But who is impregnating these girls? Thank you. Yes, we are not talking about that. Please note well, COVID and before COVID, pregnancies, incest is happening in our homes. Incest, abuse, a relative, a cousin, a who, and it can be either way. People are abusing your brother or your sister. Your child is being abused in your home by your spouse, by your brother, by your cousin, by your relatives. People who abuse these young girls or young boys are never strangers. Rarely. Nim tu monye tu me leta. Neiba, you know, like that. So as we are addressing teen pregnancy, please let's ask, where is the boy? So Bampiangu in Onekana. E waskangu. Where is the other girl? Yeah, yeah. You know, where is the other? Because what we need to be saying is, we need to teach our young people. The boy is, can you be responsible? You impregnate a girl, you take responsibility. You see, the girls are the ones carrying them. But then cause they are the ones who you can see, couldn't evidence. But this boy who is sleeping around. You see, so we need to hold both parties responsible. Yes, so yes, COVID has happened. Yes, children are home. But, you know, we transfer our problems. Should let's see solution. Parents need to be intentional. Let's talk to our children about pregnancy. And so, we need to be responsible. And so, we need to be responsible. And so, we need to be responsible. And so, we need to be responsible. About pregnancy and sex. Sex is beautiful in the context of marriage. Not before. But who is going to do this? You know, that's why they are being taught things that are strange. And if we don't tell our children about sex, they are learning it through isoma, simu, pornography. Goma, squeezy. Yes, everything. But so, we need to talk to our children. Goma, squeezy. To meet with our daughter and our son. At their age, you can get pregnant. You can make a girl pregnant. You know, start talking about it in their home. Empower them from their home. You see, it's not COVID that you want to do at home. Take responsibility of your child and what are you teaching them. But because society's sex is a taboo, where is it a taboo? It is created and it's beautiful but within the right context. These girls who are pregnant, I know so many women who got children when they were teens and they've picked themselves up. Namahishai men, they're there. We all make mistakes. Yes, you can get pregnant. But even us sometimes, maybe there is something I've done. Maybe my weakness is pornography. But because ababo, it's not visible for everybody. Ya kon jo in a kana, by a zahidi. So you're the one who is condemned more. But we are still struggling. You can't pick yourself up. You know, lai au yom to iwi poa. You know, then just pick yourself up. Where did I mess up? What did I do? How did I get there? Because many times, her toji peendi. Mu toa kenda kuwa pregnant and not after love. Anaf kiriya by the way. Akin yu kweli. Nipende too. You see, alaf una pata meto iwa first. Una pata wa peeli with a different person. But what are you lacking? Apondanyu na taftan ini. Love. Ya. But who can love you if you don't love yourself? Is true. Ya. Ya. So it's not, we cannot condemn. You are not condemned. We all struggle with something. It's just that you as pegini me. Aama umi pati kana ii taim. Pegini mi nili tumia contraceptive. Ya. But I'm engaging in sex, but I was not caught. Tosa po caught niku jaz owa. Well, I miss doing mungut uta pre na said gani. At least one month wash ketu yu main bandot. Ket kijua wu yu. Ya, but the solution, solution ni, let's empower our boys from when they are young about responsibility. You're going back to the monthly periods. We went for our training with my hubby sometime. Na, this couple wali sema, they have two boys. They said, you know we teach our girls about periods. You'll do this if you have courage. Sendyo, lakin ni them, they teach their boys about periods. Wana sema, okio na dem klas amegi stain. Musim che ke kamawali wengine, remove your sweater and tie it because it's too to tango, surely. See, we'll get married to a woman. Na taku anai zi vitu utamsa ide aji. So it's empowering both sides. Usi se me mzigo tunia, the girls, ama niya boys too. Open their eyes and expose them to both worlds. And then they side-dee each other, I think. Yeah. We speak to each other. Yes, ma'am. We agree on more. Not even one. All right, so what else did you want to talk guys? We've covered relationships, we've covered teen pregnancy, we've covered grief and loss. Ya ni, we've covered a lot of things. My friend, I told you you'd want to reach out to her. May you please give us your social media handles, maybe one more time. Or if you have that number that we can call the Wellness Center. OK, you can find me at Silvia Wambui, Facebook or Twitter. Starwe Wellness, it's on Facebook. Nanezok patia nambayangu yasemo. Wo gofi, wo gofi. Watya tuni patia ne, yo niya ofisi. OK, you're touched. Yo niya ofisi. Please reach out for help. 0722-84-03-75. So when you come and catch what unawares, maybe you are going to the kitchen. Now just compose yourself. Get somewhere to write. You have your digital type situation. I'm going to buy your coming me, so that you can repeat the number we together. All right, one more time please. All right, so 0722-84-03-75. Please reach out for help. There are so many people who want to work with you. Now since you and Nanezok, your time is not finished. Where are you going? Where and why? Just to stay with you together. To not pander at God would you? So all right, your closing remarks perhaps. My closing remarks is it's never hopeless. There is hope. Just reach out for help. There's somebody waiting to work with you. No matter how you look like, no matter where you come from. It doesn't matter how you look like. You're beautiful, wonderfully unique. It doesn't matter. Just reach out. You're beautiful. Up on Danezok, there is so much beauty within. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say, it's beautiful. I don't know. Anyway, in conclusion, depending on me, now I'm saying to Mali, so Sylvia is the one boy, the powerhouse that she is. She's very intentional. And I hope she will be able to rub off. I hope she will be able to rub off. Baby, bless me because today, I hope you understand what I'm saying on Facebook and what I'm saying on Twitter. Hashtag is white in the morning. Please, again, we're running all the way till 10 a.m. So don't you go anywhere.