 Welcome back to esoteric atlanta. I am hosting our coffee chat today and kather and I were a little spicy today We're a little sassy, aren't we? We are sassy because actually I don't know whether it's the energy shifts I don't know whether it's I think personally for me brice. I've always been everyone thinks I'm a really confident outspoken person but I've really You know try to really look at my communication style and how it is constructive or not constructive and everything But actually like in all these things, you know, we're talking about it being a spiritual battle a spiritual war But actually I'm really really happy to be at a stage where I'm going to really give a lot more home truths I mean, I have been in a lot of ways but I think actually now's the time for people to stop projecting their insecurities on other people and You know, there's a big difference between Empathising with what people are going through and projecting your shit on them And I want people to really realize there is a difference Yes, yeah, and we I I want to thank you Catherine because I don't think our subscribers Our viewers if you don't have a YouTube channel, which is totally understandable I think sometimes people think that we make a shit ton of money on YouTube and that's not the case at all the only Money I make off of YouTube is from my amazing patrons and my they are literally up into this point They have been what has been fueling this channel Just to give you guys an example My car is almost at 200,000 miles and I'm not a position to go buy a new one And I need my car because Atlanta's a driving city I only make money off of my patrons and my teaching outside of outside of YouTube YouTube does not pay the bills and Catherine was so kind to get me set up with what I'm calling a sponsorship with this asia company And I'm going to be really honest with you guys I know Catherine I were talking about this before we started filming I've gotten offers for tons of different products to sponsor on my channel And I always research the product because I want to stay in integrity and this was the first time I've actually accepted it because I like what I hear about this product It seems like it's really good for humanity and I know that a lot of you guys I want to thank like 99% of you I want to thank you guys because you've been so supportive in the comment section and that means the world to me But there have been a few people who have left really abusive comments about the fact that I've taken a sponsorship And for those people, I'm just going to block you because What people don't understand is that are some people do for me to film one video of my research Can take sometimes up to a month's worth of research I work. I know Catherine works about 16 hours a day. Yeah, I'm not making anything off of this Okay. Now like most of you guys watching I have bills to pay. I've got to put food on the table I've got to make sure I've gassed in my car Logically, how am I going to continue to provide content if I don't have money coming in and the beautiful Amazing I was telling Catherine this morning I did a kickboxing video this morning and halfway through the video She had a sponsorship a 30-second commercial for a sponsorship and you know what my thought was good for her Because as someone doing her video I get to do her video for free that she put up it with all of her experience in the exercise world I benefit from that free video on YouTube and the fact that this company that sponsored her wants to sponsor her Means that she can continue to pay her bills Do all she needs to do to put free contact up for me. So that's the thing about the sponsorship guys It's a 20-second commercial and it and then you get the whole video So but then people like Catherine to me are able to pay our bills able to feed our animals able to feed our children able able to do things so we can continue to make content and So for people to think that we shouldn't be taking sponsorships I don't as tomorrow would say what Santa sleigh. Are you writing in on? Yeah, absolutely It would be like say I was telling Catherine say you're an accountant And I were to come into your place of business your accounting firm and tell your boss That he shouldn't be paying you. You should just be working for free and again We're I'm saying this I think most of our subscribers totally understand this and I'm so grateful to all the people who have Lended their support and have been so excited I that means the world to me because you guys do understand that it is an energy exchange We're not dancing monkeys and that's how it makes me feel when people leave comments about nasty comments about me having a sponsorship It makes me feel like I'm a dancing monkey Yeah, and no one should be having dancing monkeys. They should be wild in the food But that's important because like me. I mean you're gonna have I don't know if you've already had one the amazing Danielle Matthews who is now one of my best best friends. So some of Saturday Oh, she's just such a beautiful human and so knowledgeable and she will tell you when I first went in to see her I Asked hundreds of questions many questions that have never been asked because I'm so passionate I'm first and foremost. I am a holistic health coach for humans and animals So throughout this whole crazy crazy time that we're all faced with my passion and your passion is To actually share solutions for people now You can't know what solutions you need if you don't understand the problems that are being thrown at you Which is why I think we try and balance to the best of our ability to sort of say look These are some of the issues we're being hit with here's some of the solutions you can do and There is always free solutions So I did a lovely video with Jackie White who's just the most gorgeous lady on her upon upon her unhappiness There's so much free content we put up there for people that can't afford products But like for me and you we weren't really really long days, which I choose to do not blaming that on anyone It's my choice. However, I then need to support myself physically emotionally spiritually With extra things to allow me to do that because I've got a lot of rescue animals Underby care and that is my first and foremost priority as well as my family to support But what I I'm what's more challenging to me really because I've had a lot of comments about the infancy You know turning into doing all the commercials It allows me to do this content for free and I've turned down many many many big interviews Where I could get loads of views and earn loads of YouTube absence To stick to my core values of the information I want to share now I'm not being self-righteous by saying this I am really grateful for all the content creators out there the good the bad and the ugly because they're all teaching us the Lessons we need to learn But I have to stay true to my integrity which means that I make it absolutely sort of off YouTube because I've chosen to keep to my lane As opposed to doing the sort of big hitting drama ones that I know I could get loads and loads of views for and earn a lot of money off Everyone is entitled to do what your own by me saying that I'm not criticizing the people that have chosen to go another way as well We're all on our own journeys and the great thing about YouTube or rumble or bit you just as a choice So anyone who's choosing to switch on and off you're not being tied to a chair and forced to listen to it So I I think For me Bryce one of the issues that's coming up with this and again, we are only talking to in my minority, but I had a conversation I've got a really really dear friend and I was having a telephone ping-pong conversation with her this morning by message Because we were saying it's such a fine line at the moment between Being aware of what's going on in the world And then still keeping on a positive thought line so that we're not Manifesting into our reality a lot of these negative things But we do also let's face it need to know how we have been all brainwashed and what atrocities have been going on So there's no easy answers to that. I certainly haven't got the answer But I think keeping these conversations open because we do need a lot of people in whatever way They can to stand up and do their bits, you know And we're doing our bits to the best of our ability other people are doing other amazing stuff as well But one of the ways that I've really decided I'm going forward is I'm very conscious now where I spend my money And where I have a choice, which I'm not pretending I haven't used amazon at all over the last year because I have To support say some really good authors That I love their content and if you're a new author Sometimes that's probably the only way you can actually get your book out to market. So there's it's a balancing act There's no right or wrong in this. We're all going to have different points where we put our line But I'm really supporting the companies that I know And believe in are really ethical and really doing the right thing because for me That's one of the ways that I feel I can get the world moving forward in the way I want it to Yeah, and that's how I felt about the acia too after speaking with you and speaking with jay and speaking and You know If you I'll put the conversation I had with jay and april down in the description box as well It is a spiritual journey and that's one thing that I liked about this product And and I didn't I I was excited to to step aboard and and allow this to come into my life as well Because it's a good product that's helping people and also helping me and that that's you it's hitting the nail on the head These these 20 second commercials that you see on a lot of people's YouTube channels. That's what's affording them The ability to put content out And I again, I know that for most people you understand this you totally get this, you know And if acia is willing to bring me on board So that I can make enough money to be able to take more time to research That is what acia is affording me Well, it's also affording me better help because I am on the products myself, but also it's giving me it's an energy exchange It's giving me the income so that I can work harder for my subscribers To create more content so we can have more talking points and that's the same like I don't want to be a gossip channel I don't want to be a drama channel I'm primarily a research channel because that's what I find interesting I love talking about like the children's strike of 1899. That's still one of my most favorite stories You know and going like holy shit guys. Look how cool our ancestors was like let's let's relook at this Or talking about the yoga because the yoga means so much to me or the dosha system and you guys I I You know created a 30 day challenge and a 60 day challenge and I was able to offer that for free For anybody who wanted it And now I'll be able to do more going forward because of people like acia Yeah, absolutely. And the other thing is I love the fact that That we can even have this conversation prize because what we're doing is we're challenging old belief systems So for example, there's a lot of negative belief systems about mlm companies But I can go into my health. I ran my own health shop Selling products. It was online and in person for every possible herb and natural product for humans and animals You can imagine one it was incredibly hard work And I had to hold hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of stock to be able to provide the quality of products I wanted to in the range of products But secondly if you go into a shop Everything every job that every person doing is selling something It's either selling expertise or products or services every single job that someone's doing And the beauty is is when we choose what we want to support So for me The how someone choose to deliver their product to market and the product are two completely separate things So I started taking so for example the acia or the roots products or the life ways because I wanted to use them for myself and my clients and my family And then once I was happy then I was happy to share But I think what's moving forward is so many people over the last few years and and particularly at the moment because I don't think there's a single country Watching this where they aren't feeling that only economic tightening massively whether it's food prices Whether it's fuel prices whether it's we know how many of our listeners Have been through horrendous things over the last few years where they've stood up for their values for this and lost their jobs Or a family member have So, you know, there's amazing people across the globe that have given up an awful lot of comfort To stand up for their rights and every single one of you I am so proud of you because you are the people that are changing the world As we speak and it is changing and it is changing for the The better because we can see the psychopaths at the top are panicking They're doing the most ridiculous things in this flurry of panic because you and I Bryce We've talked about talked about narcissists a lot and cults And we've talked about this in all sorts of levels and we can see that the worst thing you can do for a narcissist is start standing up for yourself Yeah, and I love it's my favorite saying I've been saying all week. When does a rattle snake rattle? When it's scared So the more they rattle that shows you just how scared they are And yeah, you're right and we and that's so many people have taken a risk in these past few years I mean my and that's why I'm on youtube my my business shut down Yeah, instead of panicking. I just put myself on youtube because I knew there was a divine plan and now that divine I'm met Catherine and all these people that are really close to me now. It's this whole new I'm actually grateful that I'm not grateful that everything happened at how it happened But I am grateful that my life had was forced to take a turn and change because it's opened up so many Amazing opportunities and I am able to use You know the the bible does say to who much is given much is expected That's something I do believe in and Catherine. You and I both have extensive years before youtube of studying our own trades Not for in my the way I see it my perception is not every human being is ever is going to have the opportunity to spend as much time as I've spent in india or to have the teachers that I've had and so Now with that being said my courses that I run here in in Atlanta and online There is a tuition charge as there is in most with most schools But I can take some of that stuff and offer it for free To a larger audience, you know, and that's the thing we talked about energy exchange stage I was saying to Catherine, you know, we get so many people that expect us to teach yoga for free Yeah, not an energy exchange You know, I mean we do have karma programs a lot of shalas do have karma programs We talked about this before just because the tuition is set at a certain price Does it mean that that if you go talk to the teacher they can work something out with you? Whether you do a karma program where you help them clean the studio or do Or you do a payment program. There's always things that can be done I know at aya we do offer discounts to people who are really struggling We will we will help them help them out that way, but there's always an energy exchange and people will you know There's a saying and I can't remember how it goes But it's like a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, right? And so there's this idea that even in india at one point people got yoga for free. Yo, that's not true That's not true. Yeah, what happened what happened was these young children Would move into their teacher's house And be their servants exactly And I think I love the energy exchange It's something i'm really passionate about and really up for and I love it when people ask Creativity so a lot of people have seen like Andrea who helps me A lot on my you know, she's my moderator on my channel She helps with our social and now my daughter loves both of those Start is through the good of their heart saying i'm really passionate about showing the message. Can I help? Yeah They didn't ask for anything and I was desperate at that time because I was literally working every hour And I was like dropping a lot of balls. So I said wow, that's so kind. Thank you But now we do a share when we share the energy and we share the things But when these people step forward and say and we've done it to lots of people and things like this And this is what i'm loving and and if you look anyone who's part of Bryce and the rest of our 60 day challenge and is on that That group that signal group the level of skills in that group Is phenomenal every single person in that group Has got so much to share and most importantly is sharing and supporting and we see it a lot I mean you and I I do genuinely think that we've probably got the best listeners on youtube Oh, what hands down? Honestly the level of not only Knowledge that these people have got and i'm not talking about I don't care about people's degrees I think people's degrees are important like i'm so grateful for the dr Christiane Northropson the dr. Robert o Young's of this world I am so grateful and that's one route and i'm not going to dismiss them You know, I've always said these people we need these people that have been there seen that know how it works And i'm also grateful for the other people that have got life's experience and what we're seeing It's like you always say, you know, the darkness can't create and what I'm loving Is the fact that yes, we are all talking now on youtube and we can sit there and we can focus on the problems and the censorship Which is absolutely real However, we can also see how much good is being spread and I tell you what brez and I read all the comments Not necessarily straight away, but as soon as we can get around to them and when I see People stepping in and helping and supporting others It gives me the biggest biggest feeling of love because I think this is what we're doing We're taking it all and we're using it how God intended it to be using it for the good and to support others And that little kind word that you say Can make the complete difference and turn someone's day around No one should undervalue just how much it's like my friend susie, you know leaving me a voice message this morning Don't underestimate how important those touches are because you can turn someone's day around for with it There's a saying I love that goes always be kind because you don't know what a person is battling You don't know what somebody is going through And and I I do and that makes me feel so great too When I see so many awesome comments in the comment section as the creator as the person who's responsible for the challenge or for the challenge For the channel both for the for the channel, you know when I see so many people being so appreciative To each other being kind to each other that is that makes me feel incredible Yeah, that that they took the time to leave those comments and for the ones who take the time to leave nasty comments I want to be I sometimes I feel sorry for those people like oh, wow That just shows the hate in your heart that you're really not at that place to really appreciate what what's being spoken about Um, and for me at this point, I mean, I know we kind of talked about this before we started filming I'm just to the point at this at this point Catherine where you know, I know my value as a human being I know what i'm good at. I know that I have a purpose And any abusive comments, I just block the person now at this point It's just going to be it's just blocking them any person that that is abusive about the fact that we have a sponsorship I'm just going to block the person because that's not something that I need to engage in and that's not something that my subscribers Who are awesome and you're right. I I really want to reiterate that because I do believe that we have the best community on the internet I'm just completely blown away by The wisdom there, you know, it's really restored my faith in humanity more than anything because The wisdom that comes across For these people I learned so much and where people like I had a few this morning That I you know, sometimes I know there's different schools of thought and quite honestly It depends what time I've gotten what mood I'm in and what the comment is But if someone's watching a whole hour and something video And if you're what it's like that age old saying is are you listening to respond or are you listening to understand? This is what I say So if all you've got Out of an hour long video Is to pick out who might have said something does so and so agree with so and so's opinion if that's all you've got Then actually the kindest thing I think I can do is either respond and point that out to you or block you because that either might make you think because Now if you're looking for a video just to pick holes just to find something that you can disagree with Then that's the level of consciousness. You're going to stay at there's not as we've said loads of times There's not a single person That I get on my channel that I agree with everything If I did I wouldn't do this job because my channel and my strap line is expanding consciousness your curiosity There's no point doing it if I'm not learning and involving as a person and I really hope I am and the trouble is it's like evolving out loud And you can see or you I can see how these reality tv ones the ones that aren't scripted Because you know all your mistakes are very public and sometimes you know I'm not great at how I put things across and I hope I'm learning To express myself in a different way as I go through this journey But I think you know looking at ourselves. I'm not saying we're not all going to have those certain moments Don't get me wrong. I'm a hundred percent put my hand out sometimes I'll listen or watch something and it will trigger me But the difference is as I realize the trigger has got nothing to do with the person So would I even negative response? No, might I switch the video off? Absolutely if I can feel that I'm plummeting vibration wise and I don't feel I'm going to get something but I will ask myself the question Am I triggered and do I need to learn from this or is this actually a waste of my time continuing? Yeah, and that's I I've there have been times where I what you know I've I've I've said it a couple of times like if people are triggered By the content or triggered by the ads I kind of want to be like that's a you problem Not a me problem. Like that's that's your trigger. That's not mine. It's not katharine's It's not anybody else in the comment sections. It's yours And if that's and that's one thing I think we've spoken a lot Your triggers are your golden lottery tickets that those are the things you embrace for you to go Why is this bothering me? Why does it bother me that that this guest came on this person's channel and they're having a conversation I watched yesterday. I watched one of a channel. I watch a lot and they they talk a lot It's Andrew Gold's channel and he talks a lot about us as well. Yeah He's he cracks me up. I know we have different beliefs on a lot of stuff But he cracks me up and he does a lot on Scientology and he brought a Scientologist on And I thought how beautiful is that that he even said at the beginning be respectful guys like we're gonna He said, you know, I'm trying to close Scientology down now. Let's talk about this and I thought how mature how mature Here's somebody that's not in our community Who has very different beliefs than we do but he's handling it more maturely Than some people in our like we can learn from each other You think I didn't listen to all of it But I was doing the animals late at night and so I was listening to that because I was intrigued to see how it went And what I found is the guest I can't remember their name But I was so impressed with how the guests didn't take offence at all and was just because what I love Is that we are all We've all got our belief systems. I've got some really strong belief systems I was having this conversation with some friends the other day So when I listen to your content This is how I first got into you with all the missing books of the bible and everything because I have no attachment at all to the bible being true I wasn't brought up in a religious setting. I'm very connected to the earth to mother earth to spirit to Some sort of connection, but I'm not attached to the bible being right or wrong So I could listen to all that stuff and there was zero triggers of me Because I wasn't attached to it But I've got other friends that will listen to that who've been brought up in a very religious situation It's a big trigger. However, if you start talking to me and start trying to if I'm listening to someone explaining how Address our horse or or a race horse and how using bits and whips and things like that is right That is a massive trigger to me Whilst other people it's not a trigger at all because they believe say it's completely So it's a it's not the subject matter. That's the trigger. It's me as a person and what I find fascinating And I'm so grateful for seeing a lot of my triggers are It's where I need to learn so I've learned so I you can learn So openly and so much When you're not holding on to those beliefs that are still triggering you so much and what I've realized is where I'm being triggered So much it's blocking me learning and keeping an open mind And so therefore that's where I can do my hoa ponopono and whatever other clearing techniques I might want to do to actually clear that doesn't mean I'm going to change my mind I think that's the difference But it means I can listen with an open mind because if not How are we ever going to learn how are we ever going to learn and I think one more thing I'd really want to do your opinion on rise Is I've been thinking a lot. I was on my dog this morning I was really thinking I was thinking okay because I was speaking to a lovely client actually who wanted some asia for her family members Who've had multiple this or that and I was like, okay this is really challenging because There's a lot of people that have still got this cognitive dissonance because they're not Able to even think I could regret it or let that in and if you don't it's like any sort of addiction You can't accept help unless you would accept you've got an addiction So this bit of our human personality that blocks us from accepting hell Will be our downfall as a species if we're not careful Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's it's the most but I mean that's I think I've told the story before when my nephew My my sister's oldest child Was learning how to speak as a toddler and anybody who has Toddlers know they get frustrated because they don't have the vocabulary to ask for help And my brother-in-law sister gave my sister a really good clue She said just teach charlie how to say help please And so even if he had like, you know say that a toy that was like broken and he couldn't get he couldn't get to work Instead of getting frustrated because he you know, he would just go to his mom or me or his dad Just say help please And it caused it made his toddler hood so much calmer Because then there was an understanding that he needed help instead of just just And and I think that as adults we Why Life is one big experiment. That's all it is. You're you're a walking experiment for yourself Spiritually, you're the soul is here to know itself. And so everything you do is an experiment So why are you afraid to stumble and ask for help when you need help? Why are you afraid? You know, well, and I know fear comes from it comes from that that vulnerability because you know We have the westboro baptist church here in america, which if you guys don't know what that is Look it up. I can't say what they do because this video will get it's awful. It's terrible And but they're very aggressive with their beliefs And what I've learned is when people are that aggressive with their belief system, whatever it is It's because they're afraid they're wrong Absolutely Right. And so that's when they get closed-minded is because it's coming from a fear of being wrong Yeah And if we understood that really then then everywhere we're we're we're we all have blinders on at some point We all are closed-minded to some things and if we can only see that That there's a fear we might be wrong and then it's kind of comical We kind of laugh at ourselves and be like well, who cares if I'm wrong, of course, correct You know and and uh people who are really comfortable with what they believe in Can handle their beliefs being challenged I love that and I think it's such an important point for people to take on board because The thing is we we know and everyone watching this knows that As Bruce Lipton says if you want to know Where your blockages are if you want to know where your brainwashed beliefs that have been put into your subconscious mind By other people are at conflict with your core beliefs Then look at your world because our world That we are living individually and every single person Watching this will have different challenges going on and I think it's very unlikely that any of us haven't got any challenges That we're working with at the moment We've all got different ones and they'll appear to us at different times and we'll have different challenges to learn from So if we're not sure what core beliefs have been implanted into our subconscious minds Look at the areas of your life that you're being triggered by look at the areas of the life You're not happy with and that will tell you because you're only triggered Where your subconscious belief is at conflict with your real soul belief or your sole purpose You saying that triggered triggered me actually in a good way because I took a snapshot of this yesterday because this and And it must be serendipitous You said that this comes from a psychology YouTube and they were putting things up and I snapped this because I thought this was brilliant Decisions are made both on conscious and subconscious levels When the two decisions don't agree with each other, we experience anxiety. Yeah And that is so we don't know none of us know where our blind spots are We need really good friends and this is why I so appreciate friends like you And you know a couple of the others I've mentioned, you know my friends Susie I've got some really good friends where I can have these conversations And we can give really honest, you know Have these honest conversations without the other person taking offense because we know how much we love each other And we genuinely want to learn and I want my friends to point out my blind spots because I'm not going to see them That's why they're my blind spots And if you haven't got good friends that are prepared to do that for you They're not really good friends because we live in this namby pamby world Where where we've been brought up to think that we have to agree with everyone for the same thing But that's the form of narcissistic abuse if you've really got someone's best interest at heart You know, I'm a parent of two and four legged children. I have to make difficult decisions every day For those that I'm parenting for Not my children anymore because they're too old But you know what I mean and and will I get some of those decisions right? Yes, and will I get some of those decisions wrong and I can learn from those and do better next time But if you haven't got someone that's going to point out if if none of us if no one had been talking about If you didn't have these brave medical professionals normal people nurses You know all sorts of works of life if we all weren't talking about about please now some of us couldn't explain The science behind it because none of us knew initially what was really in it But we still knew in our core That this bomb we trusted our intuition we trusted our gut and then we got ridiculed because when the scientists said we'll show me Prove it to me we couldn't well now unfortunately the proof is coming out Um, but now we're saying look it's not too late to ask for help There's so many solutions out there, but you can't get the solution You're not even going to be open to it. If you don't say help, please help please. Yeah Absolutely. I'm just because I have a friend who's doing reiki with people who realized after the fact What they had done? Yeah, there's help and that vulnerability that place where you say Oh, I fucked up Yeah, that is such a powerful thing Just to say I fucked up like that's a powerful place to be because just acknowledge and whatever it is Whether it's this thing whether it's a relationship whether it's a business whether it's um, maybe if if you are one of the people watching this That's pissy about our us having sponsorship. Maybe something you go. Oh, shit. I'm not you're right. Maybe Being in that place. That's when change can happen But when you hold on that's the cognitive dissonance right when you hold on to the what you originally thought because you don't Want to be wrong? That's when you get into even more trouble and that's when listen. That's one thing so Help please And I respect when there are people Who can say I messed up? I'm sorry Can we fix this? I have so much respect for people who do that completely like on personal relationships I don't again. I don't think there's anyone watching this prize that isn't going to have had Personal relationships have gone very sour over the last few years And for people that you know, I was speaking to matt latissier amazing people in the uk know him Brilliant footballer, but he's really spoken up, but he's actually managed to hold on to a lot of his um Personal relationships, although he's public relationships He's gone through a difficult time because he's got a wonderful way of communicating Which I have where he can do it in quite a non-offensive way Um, but still stick to his ground and we've all got our strengths and weaknesses in that But I think it's really beautiful when you do whether it's a friendship Um that you reach out and sort of say look tell me because certainly I've reconnected with someone Um, and I was like right tell me, you know, what's the issue because if I don't know what the issue is And this person had spent the last year doing a lot of work and she said well This is what I thought the trigger was with you But I actually have been doing a lot of work and I completely realized it was nothing to do with you It was me. It was my trigger So even though I'm telling you but I've learned a lot from that because This is what we've got to do is lovingly Help each other along this road. None of us would have learned to walk We wouldn't have learned to drive. We wouldn't have learned to do one of these things if you're professional sports person if you're good at business Whatever your aspect is if it's learning children, you know, how many of us moms we don't know everything We're learning it as we go along and we're very grateful for the help we get and some of the advice We consciously choose to ignore and some we take on board But asking for help doesn't mean you've got to accept that help. It's just opening up another choice for you Yeah, absolutely. And I want I'm and even with that being said talking about famous. We don't obviously we're not Soccer is not that big in the united states. So we don't we don't know many Soccer players over here, but even thinking about that like in just the part I've told you off camera Catherine at this point in my life I don't give a shit who voted for who in the last competition Because there are so many people who voted for mr. B Who are so aware spiritually and so grounded in other areas of their life where I'm not seeing that in in our community so Human beings are so complicated and so deep and there's so many different perspectives of each I love Marnie Alton. I will support Marnie Alton till the day I die because her she's genius Her bar classes have helped me. She has helped me far more than she knows Which is think she says and the way she works the body But she's a huge democrat I don't give a shit anymore. I like her because I don't see then that's the thing I think where we've gotten to and that's cult behavior guys. That is Us versus them cult behavior 101 I haven't got Kelly's book here, but you're you did your beautiful interview with Kelly Thiel And she's coming on my channel in a few weeks and I read her book unapologetically glorious I said this on one of my other shows I cried my eyes out throughout that book because there were so many Realizations and so many oh my god me too. Not that tough for me too, you know It's absolutely brilliant for anyone Wanting to honestly go there get that book. I'll put the link below because it's just brilliant Oh, no, it's your channel. You'll put the link And I will say Kelly I she she'll probably watch this she has become a good friend of mine And I and that was one of the most brilliant surprises that happened. I reached out to her because I heard her story I was interested. I want to bring her on and we've become really good friends And I'm so excited. She's excited about coming on your channel. I was like come into this world of weirdo women But it is so wise it hurts me so wise and so it's such a beautiful little I mean I was literally I should have done a vlog when I was reading it because I was streaming because It was one after another after another after another bit of like amazing Realizations for me and it's so beautifully written and I do it's even if you're not interested in cult behavior at all Get that book folks because it will really make you realize that it's okay to go, you know, it's not only okay It's absolutely essential. Look, I've got some of my new sage book my gardeners What this amazing little gardener that's helping out. I know it's off topic, but he was cutting down the sage I was like, don't throw any sage away baby But yeah, I I just think it's an absolute brilliant and these people this is a brilliant brilliant example Of, you know, you got me to watch the documentary series seduce which kelly feels in and so is catherine otsenberg and her daughter And and these people are so brave because when you've got the guys To stand up and say yeah, I did and this is what I've learned from it And actually by me sharing what I've learned for it For me when I read that book all the stuff that you and I have been talking about and a lot of the stuff We've experienced off-screen over the past few years It just all clicked into place. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah tick tick tick, you know so, um These people are amazing and we're very grateful for them I will and I will re-enterate it again guys and I'll put kelly's interview in my description box that I did with Her too, but if you just google her on youtube, she's done a ton of interviews. She's done a lot I actually listened to she's done two with andrew gold and one of the andrew gold interviews She actually I can't remember the context of why this came up But she talked to she was talking about how Coming out and telling her story was really embarrassing Like it's embarrassing to admit that you got duped and ended up in a cult And when I speak to her offline and when I watch her I don't I see nothing but respect For the suck that day for all of them for her for sarah edmundson for Mark facente for body piece for all the ones the oxenbergs that actually stood up and said Yeah, this cult leader duped me. I thought I was in a self-help organization And look what happened and I'm putting I'm going to use myself as an example So this doesn't happen to other people these are what these are the signs And I've spent years and years of my life in corporate life in various different um jobs and You know the nlp side of things was huge these self-help things when you look at how people got into that It was completely understandable because it's no different to half the courses loads of us have done What it did is then you realize the manipulation behind it, but we're all manipulated I I'm still being manipulated. You know, we're we're finding out things in relationships that have really surprised me and The the good thing is is when you're surprised by these people things guys Remember that's because you're a nice person We're surprised because we are not the psychopaths and there's nothing wrong With being a lovely person that chooses to see the best in people That's a gift that none of us ever want to lose because for me I am Way more open to forgiveness at all levels than I was three years ago, brice because if you can't allow people to Genuinely repent. What does that say about where we are? You know, where does that line? They explain it beautifully. Where is the line between being abused and being an abuser? How Kelly she talks brilliantly about that about the watching the but that's true like yeah, we all We all fuck up. We all do bad things and where is the need for forgiveness? And that's we with the next team situation. Kelly talks about that like Keith Rene the main guy The judge put an extra hundred years on his sentence because he was like, this is the one person I can say is the psychopath everybody else involved just got manipulated and that's and that and you're right because the darkness can't create anything we all get into these Whether it's a self-help organization or a truth or movement or a disclosure movement and tell me we all get into it because We we want to do right. We want to course correct. We want to to protect humanity and because of that, you know Psychopaths narcissists. They need the empathetic person. They need the person that they can easily And I might might have marked Vicente who said if you really look at the dynamic with these situations Whether it's a youtube content creator. That's a charismatic leader. That's a cult leader narcissist Or someone like Keith Rene or an L Ron Hubbard or, you know, a david koresh. You name it They need people who have a consciousness because that's what they can manipulate. They can't manipulate another psychopath They can't manipulate another narcissist. They can only manipulate people who feel things And that's the beauty that that's the beauty of like kelly story all these people's stories when they come out It's because I mean my boyfriend says says to me all the time Like when we were watching the net because I was watching the nexium stuff repeatedly to prepare for kelly's interview And he was I was he was like, oh my god, you totally would have done this The only reason I mean my friend, um, kelly rivers who we started our youtube journeys together sort of three years ago because we met on a retreat from someone who's he's nowhere near that level and I'm laughing because I'm being careful what we say there But there was so much manipulation and we called them out and we got a lot of state for calling them out Once we started to call them out a bit you wouldn't believe and we weren't the starting point Another woman was because she'd been in a relationship with him You wouldn't believe what started to come out But as soon as I went on the retreat and saw them in person But that doesn't mean that that person didn't have some and doesn't have some absolute gents of wisdom Yeah, because that's what I do and you and I have talked about this about As I keep repeating don't throw the baby out of the bathwater because it's very rarely black or white thinking And a lot of people do this manipulation because they're in a hurt place themselves and some people Yes, you've got the key for neres which are horrendous But you've also got a lot of people that are behaving in a similar way but aren't necessarily aware of it Well, that's like the nancy solzman's, you know and kelly can talk more about that because of course catheter and I are only seeing These people through document documentaries kelly actually knows these people Um, you know nancy solzman who was the second in command of nexium. She's like a four-year sentence But she I think she was keith's biggest victim and unfortunately she became the abuse one of the abusers But she you know the nlp stuff these stuff they did in these courses Are general They're genuine things that absolutely and they got manipulated. So if we look at that in our own community We can see that better with how Some of these truthers are using genuine tactics, but manipulating people to pull them off course So and and that is that's a you know what I will say though because I think most of us do come into this very innocently wanting to do good thinking all people are good That's a really hard lesson to learn, but it's a very necessary lesson to learn And that's how these atrocities have been going on on the wider environment There's always you know, we are just all fractals of the bigger picture One of the things that I think is is really important for people to realize is that you know With this person with this coach I was talking about they've got some absolute gems of brilliant advice And I don't think they're a bad person. I just think they're a broken person at that stage So, you know, again, there's no gale tool malice or things in this because The whole point is we're learning we're all learning and but you've got to be aware to say to start recognizing it and sometimes you go you need to go through the lesson to recognize it and There was another point I was going to make that was really important. I can't remember, but you know, you you've got to keeping that open inquiring mind and Realizing that any form your thing is we've all talked about the brainwashing that's gone on the mind control But any form of personal development is mind control any form of psychedelics is mind control As you and I have said all the time. It's never normally the tool itself It's the person that's controlling that thing So you could go on an ayahuasca journey and have the most amazing Experience, but you could also go on an ayahuasca journey. I know plenty of people have that have been run by complete charlatans That don't know what they're doing and having an absolutely terrible very damaging experience So I think when we realize that Searching to be a better person whatever that means for you searching to develop yourself Is not a bad thing the fact that some people manipulate that shouldn't put you off for being on your journey of self-discovery Oh, it's about there's an ayahuasca cult here in atlanta with a really bad leader Um, and I won't say obviously on the internet, but uh, but um, you know, that's very you have to be very careful If you just discern it when you're picking because it's not the tool. It's the person using it and You know back to circle back to where how this conversation started One thing I love to say is we see the world as we are Not as it actually is Oh, so true And so regardless of whether it's being pissed because someone has a sponsorship on youtube Or if it's some person you're you are, you know Feeling like you have to walk on eggshells around it's how you are perceiving it And so that therefore if you are in a like an abusive relationship with like a keith ranire Or if you're getting manipulated by someone on youtube, you know You hold the power to walk away And what is it within you that makes you feel like you can't walk away Or what is it within you that makes you feel like you have to be nasty about someone else getting some support? Like it's all it's how you it's you it all comes down to you Everything always comes back to you because you can walk away You can walk away from these imputes. It's hard, but you can do it You know, you know, and it is how we've had many discussions off camera where we've both gone through different stages of And our person have how hard it is to break it But you have to go through those pain Bryce, jamey salee and I last year did a series That I think is on my channel on the fifth agreement by don Miguel ruiz And it's the sequel to the four agreements by don Miguel ruiz is absolute some nuggets on there in terms of reading Seeing the world how we all see the world through our movies through our lens And if you if you need to remind you about that go and have a look um, Bryce, I'll send you the link to the playlist Yeah No, because it's got some beautiful wisdom in there And the main thing is is don't ever be embarrassed about being fooled every single one of us is We should do a round table with jamey and kelly like these big names and I could sharing jamey of course an olympiad and this her so much And he had called and catch up with her and then kelly who's gone through who became a big public figure because of her experiences We should do round tables. I'll let us know guys down in the description or at the comment section like um, you know If you guys would want to do that do a big round table with these people who have had really big lives that have had Yes, and said brilliantly because that's so amazing. And I think you know, this is a thing There's no shame about being fooled. No But there is a check there is if you keep getting fooled if you know If intuition wise you know and then you keep it offering yourself up to this sacrificial altar Then you know you've got to look at yourself and I'm going to say this just in closing and saying there's no shame to being fooled for our fellow Colleagues and the truth peers in the truth world If you're know if you are aware now that you're filming with someone that's bad and you're scared to say something Listen, I know I think I could speak for Catherine and myself if you actually made a video admitting your faults Holy shit, that would be cool and you would get a lot of respect for that so don't ever don't ever Think saying admitting that you fucked up is a bad thing. It's a is actually a really good thing It's the way we're going to heal the planet It really is the way we're going to heal the planet when we can all be vulnerable enough But last thing I want to say because I know we've got to go it's on this note is remember Each and every one of us needs to ask ourselves in my opinion Are we the type of person that is genuinely open? to people's apologies and to Letting people move on and be a better version of themselves because we all know what it's like in our personal lives You know those of us who live with partners and things, you know, it can be very tempting to say Oh, but you've always done this and everything but we have to somehow and i'm laughing because I say that We have to allow people to move on and be a new version of themselves because just like every cell of our body Is regenerating all the time. So are we as spiritual people? So are we uh in in the type of person and the way we show up And that can be one of the biggest challenge. So if we all open our hearts to forgiveness if it's genuine I'm not talking about letting a narcissist back into your life. Yeah, we're not talking about that We're talking about if someone is genuinely Looking to change and needs support or has changed Then that can be a wonderful thing to look at Yeah, and guys on that note too. I will put all again all the asias stuff will be down in the description box below I'm vlogging myself Taking this so I can actually journal with you guys and journey with I know a lot of the people who signed up under me the last couple of days I've reached out to you guys if you ever want to share your experiences to let me know because I'm doing this with you guys I've just started this with you guys too with the product itself and I'm already like feeling better I don't know. That's just because I'm excited. We'll see but you know And also like Katherine's going to send me her telegram group. She's a telegram group specifically for Information about these products with doctors and all that kind of stuff And so you can join that as well if you want to learn more Knowledge is power knowledge protects and knowledge is infinite And I will also have a phone number in the description box directly to our friend jay from spiritually raw And so if you want to talk to him directly, he's been with this company for a pretty long time He knows the company really well So if you want more information from him or want to speak to him one-on-one about the product You'll just text the number brice info and he will get back to you And talk to you personally want to want about the product and all that kind of stuff too so I wish everyone to do that because it's not an easy to understand product And jay is an expert at making sure you get the right product at the best possible price for you So do contact jay on that and then the other thing is is when you're going through the user experience and everything Because neither brice or I like to bombard people So when you get the stuff from brice's link that she's got below the video If you need more information on any aspect of it Reach back out to jay or brice because if they don't know then know who to ask because we want you to have the most amazing Journey, but we don't want to you know ever bombard people with information So please don't be shy about asking brice because brice and jay will send that information to you I'm still learning as well. And so yeah, just send me a message and just do as my nephew did just say help Please Help please Yeah, absolutely. We want you to be healthy. That's the thing that we catheter and I I think generally the bottom of hearts We want everyone to be mentally healthy physically healthy spiritually healthy We want everybody to have long healthy enjoyable quality lives You know, um, I know we've said it before we're not waiting for any flip to happen to find Love and joy and peace what we want it now Regardless of what's happening in the world and so anything we can do to help you guys Understand that better just let us know and yeah, let us know if you want us to do that killer round table I know kelly's gonna be traveling but when she gets back We could talk to jamie's delay and get a gold medalist olympian and get kelly together and talk about these things Wow, what a cool round table that one says they've got so much wisdom that they've got I mean jamie is on, you know, everyone's walked shown before she's just a powerhouse woman So much respect. So thank you so much. I love these coffee chats I just can't wait till we're doing it in person. I really feel that time's coming soon. Yeah We love you guys. Thank you again so much for being the absolute best community in the whole world And we'll talk to you soon. Bye everybody. Bye