 I see what he's doing, he's making me break, so I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, it's alright, I'm kidding. So how's it going at Bournemouth though, you really enjoying being there? So I've been back at Bournemouth since 2016, so I was there as a player obviously, back in the mid-90s and I stepped out of football quite a long time after that, after I finished playing, I finished playing quite early. But then Eddie Howell, who I played with when he was a Bournemouth player, obviously had a phenomenal record at Bournemouth, took Bournemouth up into the Premier League and I went back as player liaison to help him, basically look after the players and organise day-to-day running and the logistics of things. Did you miss it when you had the time out? Yeah, yeah, massively, yeah. Now because football, when you're professional footballers as much as the same as you, you live and breathe it. So as soon as you stop doing it, and there are lots of reasons why you stop doing the exports, it's a massive hole that basically you have to fill. You think, I've done it a couple of times and with Snooker it's not like football, a bit more lucky, we can go on a bit longer, it's not like football or boxing, playing wise, you're on a time limit. Snooker you can carry on as much as you enjoy practicing and you can still do it, but I found that a couple of times I stopped, I played golf for a few months and I'd get terribly bored and I felt I had to be around it, so I felt like managing a couple of players, but then I got into working for Eurosport with Ronnie O'Sullivan and that got me to connection again and maybe play more and now I'm enjoying it as much as ever. But I think like you say with Snooker as well, you can keep playing but you can also play exhibitions and you enjoy playing exhibition games. We do loads of exhibitions, we do gold around the world, I play O'Sullivan, quite a lot of shows and because he's Ronnie O'Sullivan he's entertaining the crowd so it doesn't matter if I'm there or not. Hang on, but you're teaching me what? No, when it's my go, that's what I mean, I practice hard for them as well because when it's my go, if I'm not sharp with him he's just going to murder me. I've held my own with him on the exhibition circuit, it's given me a lot of confidence and the main tour, they can't get rid of me, so I'll just keep trying. You did say a tenner, right? I did say a tenner, no witnesses. Per ball. So I'm on the stripes. So we come from not far, we grew up in the same sort of area, I was born in Epsom Hospital close to where you live now and I lived in Worcester Park just down the road called. My dad was a policeman in the mountain area at Wimbledon, so I know the area. When I was younger, when I was a young pro you were talking to lads about it. In the afternoon it was very different than what it is now and we used to play a lot of snooker and pool and my dad took me to a gentlemen's club in New Maldon, just under the bridge. I know it, you've got four or five tables in there. That's it, your mate Tony Mio used to go down in the clouds. Yeah, that's crazy. So that was my end, you were saying to the lads, football's a my generation, we used to play a lot of pool and snooker. Yeah, a lot of the footballers play a lot of golf now, but you wasn't allowed to ride motorbikes, right? Or go skiing. No, you were right, it's an insurgency. Yeah, certainly back in the day you couldn't ski, but you know, so you either have a good at snooker or a good at golf. Basically, yeah. I'm a very good either to be fair. New Maldon. No, well, a couple of stripes tucked up there. I'm interested to see what you're going to do. Distur them. No good. So, I mean, when you started out, when you start, when you were a young man, the big characters in the game, Alex Higgins, what was he like as a character? Because you won the World W's. I won the World W's, unfortunately for me, I sort of followed in these footsteps, okay, I wouldn't have changed it because I like to play the flair game, I like to play the attacking game, but I'd have won a lot more if I'd have been a bit more conservative, you know, a bit more like Steve Davis. But, you know, that was the way I enjoyed playing, and that was because my hero was Higgins. You know, Higgins made the game, you know, so popular from nowhere. You know, he was, he had that sort of X factor early 70s, but then Steve Davis come along, he was, you know, a fabulous player, a fabulous gentleman towards the game, and now we've got, lucky enough, we've got Ronny O'Sullivan, you know, you've got to have a bit of excitement. Do you think Ronny balances up the two worlds? Do you think he plays with the flair and the control, maybe? He's took a bit from Steve Davis, a bit from me, a bit from Stephen Hendry, and he's made this absolute winning machine, and he's super fit, he's 45, he still runs like, he runs like 10, he runs like five minute miles, and like 10 at a time and all that, so he's super fit. And you know, and lucky enough for us, why you've got players, because a lot of Chinese boys are coming through, they're going to take over the game eventually, because it's just too good, too many of them coming through, too many. But while we've got O'Sullivan, the game's still popular. I think that's the end of break. Are these same size balls or snooker balls, then? No, they're slightly bigger. Slightly bigger? And the pockets are a lot bigger. Do you find the dynamics is the same, the way they move? Yeah, it's the same, it's the same sort of, like a top pool player, I couldn't beat a top pool player over a long race, but I might beat him over a short race, but a pool player can't beat a snooker player. No, it's a very different game that way. Yeah, as I said, I don't know how to, a bit like maybe you only played six-a-side football with trainers, and then you'd go and play on a pitch with proper boots and a different game. I didn't see that one, I bet. You didn't see it, but you certainly played it. Yeah, I'm running out of clues. I'll get back to the table. I was worried I weren't going to get back to the table. Right, okay. Oh, no. That's not that many favours, is it? That was unlucky. That's not that many favours whatsoever. Tappy, no, that won't do that. Yeah, stay there. I can't see, I was going to move it for you. Yeah, go on, that was unlucky. There you go. That worked your fault. There you go, just give me a little bit of over. Play to your bread, Ronny. Yeah, try and nudge this green brown out. I'm nearly there, I'm the nearly man, aren't I? I'm the nearly man. Oh, I love you. This could be it. Where's been your biggest, like, you play exhibition matches against Ronny? Yep. And I imagine you get some really strange requests, like what pop stars do, whether you suddenly get a call, can you come here and can you play a game for a certain amount of money? Where's been your most exciting place you went to? We played quite a few, Ronny Woods and Palomine from the Rolling Stones. Our kids went to the same school together, their eldest daughters. And I've been a pal of his for 35 years. And I didn't, for a minute, think he knew anything about Snooga. I don't know, he goes to the school now and again, drops his daughter off. Anyway, I met him. We've been pals ever since. And he has a table at his houses, but he has a table put up before every gig. Every concert, yeah, every concert. They have a Snooga table put up and they have one game, him and Keith Richards. And now they're all sober now. Years ago I went to watch them play. And it's all like martinis and ashtrays, all around this beautiful table, like I can't look in case it's filling. And now it's all, you know, beautifully clean and, you know, their idea of enjoyment. Now they've got a library, you know, they've got fantastic books, wherever they go, they get books on the area. Is that the game in a zone, do you think? Because they're performing. They have one game, him and Keith Richards, before they go, before they soundcheck. It takes about an hour because they're only average players. But, you know, they love it. You know, it's sort of a release. And sort of what they're doing is just forgetting about everything for an hour and having a game with Snooga. So there's a lot of them. My strangest request was in Norwich. I turned up to play in this big leisure center and I went in and all these, like, there's about 400 tiered seats and all around. And the guy went, oh, hi, I'm so into the promoter and all that. He said, where's the Snooga table? Like, as though I was supposed to bring the Snooga table with me. But, yeah. Quite a few people, a lot of people play that you wouldn't, like Stephen Fry is a big fan. Oh, is he? Yeah. Big player. That's unbelievable. How you found that angle from there? I thought you might have been. Still want to win. I love it.